Cartels vs America: Foreign Terrorist, Sinaloa’s War Zone & U.S. Military in Mexico | Katarina Szulc

Producer's note: this interview was filmed prior to President Trump's pause on Mexico tariffs, and President Sheinbaum's decision to send troops to Mexican border.
On today’s episode, Vince sits down with investigative journalist Katarina Szulc to discuss the escalating cartel violence in Mexico and the impact of the U.S. officially designating cartels as Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs).
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[@kreazyd]

Poland is doing it right when it comes to protecting their border.

[@apollogibbons6276]

1000%

[@gatormcklusky5850]

so is America

[@M.R.T.V.Videos]

Just gaurd the border heavy af and let them consume "the products" if all else fails that is .....

[@ghernandez2263]

Who has the desire to go to Poland 😂

[@JJA_88]

It’s simple- get your country in compliance or step aside while they are put in compliance. The guise of being humanitarian has gone too far, to the point that both countries suffer from this terrorizing committed by criminals.. there have been many groups in the USA who have been whiped out for doing nothing more than practicing their own religious freedoms and their freedoms of speech and expression… this situation goes way further and is far worse/ more dangerous.

[@Nimajneb78]

36:17 I don't agree that the Mexican military will not work with American soldiers. My problem with Mexican soldiers and police working with our operators is how many of the Mexican military is on cartel payrolls. My problem is us trying to help them and moles undermining our efforts and jeopardizing our soldiers..

[@Highseas1988]

THIS! There are good Mexicans that want to get rid of cartels and just live in peace.

[@Nimajneb78]

@Highseas1988 I know that is true.

[@josephmoreau9615]

It’s like saying that Dunkin Donuts isn’t in the donut business. The cartels and Mexican government/LEO/and military are pretty much the same people.

[@RafaelaChronicles]

It’s like that movie w benicio del toro

[@esmeraldagarcia2848]

Why is it so hard to believe the US is involved with the Cartels?? Or that the US Army trained the Cartels?? Or that the US sells high powered weapons etc to the Cartels???? Wake up!

[@joegd71]

No consumers No cartels. No cartels No guns trafficking from US

[@elementadept436]

Blaming the US is an old story, in part still true, but the cartels are now in the very tapestry of mexican society, all forms of business and politics. Unfortunately the power structures of not just Mexico but all of latin america lend to corrupt societies. Mexico and Mexicans are responsible for letting them fester to the point they run large parts of the country. And if it is our fault then they should let our military in to go clean it up and quit complaining. We would be more than happy to help by cutting the problem off at its roots

[@javidallas4113]

Ppl can hate Trump all they want , but he’s actually got the 🏀 to go after the Cartel unlike scary liberals

[@brandonbennett7337]

💯 yup we gonna see how it all plays out.

[@arturonovoa3760]

Trump and his boys are gonna get cracked son 😂

[@motorcitymadman146]

Liberals were getting kickbacks and aiding in human trafficking deal

[@angelcartagena3478]

The delusion runs deep …. Please don’t compare our country to yours sweetheart. When push comes to shove we don’t use our citizens as human shields, we shield them. Can you say that about your cartels and government when our wrath is upon them. There is only one USA 🇺🇸

[@HapHazard_69]

@@arturonovoa3760delusional af

[@rr_spec1809]

Rule #1: never underestimate thy enemy… However, why is everyone treating the cartels as the greatest fighting force and the us military as the ones Running around underfunded, under trained and less superior. It’s wild how much everyone is underestimating the capabilities of the us military 🤔. After my two tours in the Iraq war as an infantrymen with the 1st infantry division… I’ve witnessed and involved in just how dangerous the us military is.

[@gDFHzftjererg45]

the us military will never go after cartels they are to restrained.

[@joeashbubemma]

Google - "Vietnam". It's not about military power. It's about political will. If the people of Mexico isn't behind the US, then what's the point? We're better off closing our borders to Mexico - airtight. No trade, no immigration. Let the country implode. If they want the cartels to rule, so be it, but NO ONE from a terrorist country will set foot in America.

[@mpoutdoors7791]

US military is superior by far !!

[@Itravelbackintime]

Because they haven't learned the history that the US defeated Mexico in a decisive war in 1848 and has last occupied the country in 1914 with US Navy controlling it's coasts and ports.

[@rafaelvazquez7465]

War with Mexico is war with Russia and or china. Cartels will never go away they will just change their names and become political parties like the mob/mafia did in the US.

[@felixf4378]

Is disagree with the “sovereignty” argument. Most Mexicans citizens are for the intervention of an external force. Mexican people are tired of being unalive and extorted while at the same time the government turns around and says that everything is fine.

[@P71ScrewHead]

Nope.. Mexicans won't hesitate to to arm themselves to attack any invading force.. Especially vs USA 🇺🇸.. Not even joking.. Fool me once, shame on you.. Fool me twice, shame on me..

[@aerok111]

A recent *poll shows that 53.7% of mexicans support a US intervention. *México Elige

[@vortolex]

You partially right on that also very conflicting topic why simple if you read Mexican history and the US only internally, the right or the left (make sure to understand which side ones is talking about and what is the current era of political parties main goal, each era is different) currently the opposition knows as the conservative or the right in Mexico dates back at least almost 200 favoring always intervention from the US kind of similar to the democrats in the US. well the Conservatives in Mexico are Neo-liberals not again all, there are some who sell themselves and sell the country and there is a patter why Mexico has lost so much great par was mainly due to fighting among themselves both the left and the right decades and even centuries over who gets the right to decide which is the correct path for Mexico that cause other great power to invade Mexico even divide Mexico as those old great powers has done to other countries during the colonial era. Complex topic but the main issue lies not the Us but the ones who got control of the US government the corrupt and evil ones created the cartel under the direct order from the global elites and shift the blame as always US mean while Mexico must be treat as a piñata 🪅. The cartels as whole is just an instrument to hold Mexico progress it can become a great power like Japan. Mexiciand Japan share some cultural and parallel similarities. There is a book mention no directly but phrase somewhat of a secret code mention by Zbigniew Brzezinski “another Japan south of the border”

[@ChestyPuller1775]

No they don’t

[@SubZer0-e7x]

No they don't and if yall really want to stop the cartels yall should take look at yall government because they been making those moves since escobar was around they are the ones controlling the flow on drugs

[@logician3641]

The way LA looks with the protests is exactly why Mexico is so messed up now.

[@aaroncontreras7576]

@@logician3641 buddy the way LA looks like is the same reason that going to War with Mexico will bring war inside the USA territory there’s about 30 million and 60 With Mexican decent. Plus the cartels that are inside the US this ain’t no thing to joke about.

[@ramirodelacruz1581]

The way the United States looks with the insurrection "" J6 "" is the reason why the United States is all messed up.

[@tacorevenge87]

Is Mexico messed up? That’s a new one haha. No more than USA mate that’s for sure

[@josealfredorodrigezcruz2276]

México está mejor que nunca se ve cuando Trump vs a sheinbaum México no se quiebra ni traiciona a sus aliados 😂

[@gato9573]

@@josealfredorodrigezcruz2276pride before the fall

[@rafaelvazquez7465]

Cartels have receipts on what pockets their bribes go to on the US side too

[@markraftis]

Yes, that would be interesting to find out.

[@0311-e8b]

Yep it's why we gotta root out corruption from both sides.

[@BeADad2447]

Not the Bidens right?

[@2tooful]

@@0311-e8bthis is why the usa only bluffs with threats and does nothing, if the government wanted to eradicate these organizations they would but military might

[@ghernandez2263]

@BeADad2447cartels been operating since the 80s what’s with the Biden thing 😂

[@tedlamay3245]

If someone keeps attacking you, you have the right to say enough, and will have to deal with the consequences

[@JamsAl-f8d]

@@tedlamay3245 good to know when the US starts attacking so will we

[@Ajane26]

Great interview and you can tell her heart is in the right place. But I’m worried for this girls safety.Pray for her safety🙏

[@RicardoBarriga-e4n]

Then she could fucking leave mexico that simple

[@RobertRitchie-re5pt]

She works for the cbc and bbc. She’s a left wing puppet.

[@LuDePaMiAl]

Me to ! Worried for her.. she stepping in a very murky waters . Hope she understands that narcos criminals are terrorists and serial killers!! with billions of money they can get any reporter down any where on earth .

[@renayeblack5906]

May Heavenly Father always keep an impenetrable hedge of protection around her with His best angels in the Mighty and Matchless name of Jesus Christ ✝️.

[@michaeldiaz1706]

This woman shows very little humility and very brazen and boastful. There’s many local Mexican journalists who lost their lives over reporting on cartels. I don’t think the way she talks will help her with keeping off the cartels radar or painting a target on her own back. Mexico is no joke and corruption is huge. But let’s not act like the U.S. government doesn’t have any corruption. The CIA also used cartels to fund their proxy wars

[@P71ScrewHead]

Exactly.. You, mi tocayo must be Mexican.. Like me..

[@Willrocs]

@@P71ScrewHead😂😂Diaz give it away 😂

[@EricBishard]

That’s her problem not yours.

[@TimTimmOn]

You do have a point grade point at that make a lot of sense

[@tacorevenge87]

Ain’t all Americans like that? She’s painting a Hollywood movie

[@DarkHistoryProject]

Cartels are as guilty as the consumers

[@josealfredorodrigezcruz2276]

Son peores los que destruyen su vida y la de sus familias los drogadictos uno puede probar o caer en el vicio pero si está estable de tu mente lo supera si eres un enfermó mental te mueres

[@jeannettesilva4242]

NOT EVERYONE HOW GOT FENTINAL GOT IT FROM AN ELISIT DUG THAY HAVE PUT THEM INTO COUNTERFIT PERCRIPSHONS! THAT IS AULLY THE MAJOURITY OF THE OVERDOSSES HAPINED!

[@rhodesianhunter9360]

You forgot to add our government and our tier one operators that trained certain cartels in the first place.

[@Bubble23428]

@@rhodesianhunter9360 The Jews too

[@StevenPGonzalez626]

The consumers wouldn't be consumers if it weren't for the cartels

[@MichaelMartin-rw5fi]

the U.S has the right to secure its border. drug and human trafficking need to stop. however, US society is the largest consumer of drugs and alot of our own people participate in helping drug and human trafficking along. It's not only a border issue, its a society issue.

[@gatormcklusky5850]

No quiero nada más que vivir sin problemas /cartel, ninguna persona normal va a defender a los carteles, no me importa lo que ella piensa que sabe.

[@EricBishard]

Welcome to Mexico where shit ain’t normal. Wake up

[@tacorevenge87]

No sabe de qué habla obviamente

[@ramirodelacruz1581]

LO QUE ELLA PIENSA Y LO QUE SABE ES, NO ES DE DEFENDER A LOS CARTELS! ES DE DEFENDER A LA PATRIA !!!!!

[@vital4644_]

​@@ramirodelacruz1581 estados unidos tiene la inteligencia suficiente para cambiar su país sin invadir países. No quieren aser cambios. Es como un mexicano machista que solo el tiene razon! 😂 México puedo y esta trabajando sin apoyo militar. La sociedad en estados esta perdida. Y si piensas que apoyando ah estados unidos sera bueno. 😅 ya tendremos resultados en 3 años en el futuro 😅

[@eltururuu1494]

Can you guys talk about who's supplies the cartels with their artillery? Thank you

[@romansandoval4792]

Yeah they are missing the part about where the cartels are getting their military grade weapons, also the money 💰 is not in Mexican banks it's on this side..and last but not least do we really think there is corruption all the way to the top ONLY In the Mexican government? Are we really gonna follow the money to wherever in the world 🌎 it leads 🤔? ..

[@JorgeAntonio-d2k]

UNITED STATES

[@gatormcklusky5850]

i'm wondering how well they'll handle bunker busters 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣✔

[@mindyourbusiness4101]

They are in all 50 states. Are we using bombs on our own cities? This is not a far away war like we are used to.

[@larrybailey43]

The Cartel in Mexico goes way beyond just drugs, the people in Mexico are suffering far more than known.

[@cream4r]

It’s going to be a bloodbath. Most importantly, we are going to need to be there for each other in the coming years. We’re going to be in dire need of human connections and a real sense of community.

[@donwarner6925]

If it actually goes down, and it looks like it’s beginning, yes, it’s will get worse.

[@CornPopsDood]

True tier 1 operators getting beat is laughable at best. Skills are unmatched. The levels of equipment that can be levied are beyond anything that they’ve ever seen.

[@FenrirFire18]

Yes! People miss the whole point of Spec-Ops, which some are: "Finding and exploiting weaknesses in the enemy. Hitting them HARD when they aren't looking. Fleeing before trouble comes to you. Attacking from behind" They're just trained much, much better, overall. I'm tired of movie's making it seem like a 4-man Spec-Ops Squad can obliterate a whole enemy platoon, close-up, like Jason Statham raiding that base in XXX. Yes, they are elite. Yes, they'd still be deadly. Yes, they could run in like Rambo and mess stuff up. But the odds of dying/messing up the mission increase significantly with the "Rambo Approach", of course. Most of these Ops (such as a Cartel Raid) are trained for, for hours. The actual Op when you get down to it, might be over in a minute. I remember hearing about a Seal Team who rappeled down into a mission area, took out 6 guys and completed their objective in 59 seconds, so... Spec-Ops essentially bring Bazooka's to an enemy trained for a Knife Fight, if you know what I mean! 😅

[@DTA555.]

Not only that but without a weapon the US has hands on training and the cartels are not in shape for that, they have Fat and real skinny men ect. They only know how to use numbers against a few people to kill them, but when they are overmatched they will hide.

[@Texasmule]

​@@FenrirFire18 and what about the ones trained by secret CIA programs

[@MisterDodos117]

Is that why all you special operators couldnt do anything in Vietnam Afghanistan Korea Ukraine?!

[@mminniear984]

Put that with our unmatched intelligence, drone technology, surveillance, guaranteed right now they have located most of the places they are locked down in. We already know there are at least 3 surveillance planes flying over Mexico in international airspace.

[@mecharenacorrupt1055]

This lady saying "it's part of their constitution ". Lady, they do not care about their constitution. They say to be a democratic country but act like a communist party.

[@kevinblackburn3198]

I’m sick of hearing how we need to work with Mexico. Nope. Mexico always takes advantage of the United States.

[@giovannigiorgio8962]

Yeah right.......

[@disanthr0]

It's a bilateral issue. Corruption goes both ways.

[@cesarmeza5331]

Yeah, drugs cross the border and sell themselves. Also, US weapons end with the cartels magically.

[@giovannigiorgio8962]

@@disanthr0 That's what they refuse to understand.

[@ElLeonNegro561]

Lol mexico taking advantage of what lmao if trump wouldn't have said that you brainwashed fools wouldn't be saying that so taking advantage of exactly what ..

[@benbear1813]

Any resistance to American military action is absolutely futile !!! 🇺🇸💙❤️‍🔥🤍

[@djhbfih893]

in a fair conventional war but you need to stop saying that bc saying it loud enough does not make it true if the USA wanted to go into Mexico and just end everyone all innocent people too then sure nothing can stop them well except china and russia, but i doubt the U.S is gonna do that they are fighting forces in a more modern organised world than afghan and they lost in afghan and viet, the cartels have payed actors that will serve your boys on a platter from official offices right in the usa, that is how bad it is, cartels defeated hacker group anonymous in a famous tech war so they have pretty good intel guys working for them, would be best to lose that murica hell yeah nonsense real quick and not underestimate the enemies.

[@tacorevenge87]

USA lost to Vietnam and Afganistán mate. Not invendible

[@josealfredorodrigezcruz2276]

Japón 1945 destrucción masiva solo quedó una naturaleza muerta un país pequeño no había necesidad de que pagarán niños y mujeres embarazadas animales 😮 de eso están orgullosos

[@benbear1813]

@ The U.S.A. Has never lost a war to anyone ! Fact ! Don’t be a stupid schmoo who listens to what the media is telling you !!! 🤪😜

[@johngrant5881]

@@tacorevenge87 😂

[@javier-ro2yg]

Cartels since the 1980s have had Isreali special forces, American special forces, Marines, and Army personel on retainers where they run boot camps for cartel members to become military trained. Shoot the Zetas started as a group of Mexican military who were trained in the states as special forces, only to desert and become a cartel. They were so powerful at one time that they were beating the Mexican army to the point that President Calderon asked for help from the Sinaloa cartel with men to fight the Zetas. The sinaloa cartel set up a group of military trained sicarrios to fight the zetas on the same side of the as the Mexican Government. That new group known as the mata zetas/ zeta killers split from the sinaloa cartel and became what is now the CJNG the second biggest cartel if not the biggest of Mexico now. just between CJNG AND THE SINALOA cartel they have roughly 50k military trained members. who would fight only when they absolutely had to. guerilla war is what it would be. like I said the population of Mexico would take their side.

[@WETALKINMEDIA]

Concur hence why you understand the deportation why would you want someone that wouldn't fight for the country were there makin money

[@motorcitymadman146]

I remember I was shouted down on a military video foe saying gangs were sending members into the military to get trained. I was un-American lol. No I was telling the truth.

[@TheRevering]

No we would NOT take their side.... Who are these people?

[@JamsAl-f8d]

@@TheRevering si lo harían en el momento que una bomba tmde USA mate a los primero inocentes , se arma toda la guerra pero bueno tu no quieres ver esa realidad como muchos otros mexicanos

[@Galm01-6th]

Los zetas never beat the army, they beat local and state police, mostly beacuse the lack of weapons and poor training(the police in Mexico before 2007 was mostly disarmed) in the early stages of the war against cartels, thats the reason the army was deploy to the streets and the spending on public security increased, and the militarization of public security in all levels(local, state and federal) those reforms lead to the total defeat of los zetas in 2013. In all those years, CDS and los mata zetas (the name they have before CJNG) where mostly hiding of los Zetas, they never strike the structure of los Zetas, they only do videos killing randoom people(theres no real confirmation the people kill on those videos really work for los Zetas or another cartel, its a posibility, but theres no confirmation yet) on internet for propaganda proupose against their rivals, the only cartel that really atack their structure was cartel del golfo, and they where wreck by the army too

[@bajajay9818]

I live in Baja Mexico I'm a retired American and there are police everywhere there are tons of undercover agents as well because they will just turn the lights on in the truck and take off racing away there's also national guard everywhere. I can't go to the grocery store three blocks away without passing two police. With the amount of law enforcement per capita there should be no crime in this town yet there is.

[@StoneXue]

Half those cops are there to protect them (cartel), not you the ordinary person.

[@migueldelacruz2841]

Cops have been fired jailed for corruption and being connected to crime since the former President AMLO I live in Zona Centro T.J. and I never have problems with the national guard military they give the people respect and to protect us. Ask yourself why there are so many U.S. citizens coming to live in Mexico. If you're involved in selling or connected those are the people who get into shootings and murders also diapered. as long as you mind your business and stay away from being involved your good.

[@Skeletors_Closet]

It’s the ratio of officers to citizens that you should pay attention to. You may see them everyday, but that doesn’t mean they are everywhere. You may just be living in the one spot they frequent. Check out the officer to citizen ration. You’d be surprised at the numbers.

[@roberthubbard5008]

Corrupt cops. I live in northern Baja. The police abuse the people and steal from them. Crooked as can be

[@machoman5356]

Did they give the Mexican police there gusto back yet?

[@BeADad2447]

No cartels, no money for politicians.

[@johnjack902]

Yup

[@Minimalgypsywarrior]

This is why I really appreciate just being safe and ok on a daily basis. My heart goes out to them, and the countless people living in combat zones around the world.

[@TheCoolwhipped]

35:59 well, here's the thing. The moment the US sees that, they're going to send a message to the Mexican govt that says "from this point forward, any Mexican force encountered during an ongoing operatiom will be treated as hostile. We advise you stay out of our way as our fight is not with you"

[@JacobGutierrez-tn5hn]

Your stupid

[@josecordova5688]

Good luck with that

[@MonacanMix]

Is anybody still reporting on the hikers, American hikers all shot by the cartel in Northern California?! Is the government addressing the cartels who are growing dope in the forests of California? They are heavy and thriving in the woods of Northern California. We have a special force assigned to tackle it but it hasn’t stopped.

[@toddmarshall2726]

I don't see any Tier 1 operators having to ever engage. They all bring along a CCT to paint up the targets. Having no means to counteract B-1's, F-15 Strike Eagles, F-35's and missiles will not bode well for the opposing team.

[@rafaelvazquez7465]

Guerilla warfare must be a new concept to you

[@mariovillicana6290]

Very ignorant comment you obviously dont know anything about politics in live in a fantasy world😂

[@martintrejo1950]

@tito9694😂😂😂😂

[@toddmarshall2726]

@@mariovillicana6290 Politics? You're the only one talking about politics here. Are you in the right comment section? I'm talking about war. You may not have noticed yet but the new commander in chief does not do anything halfway. If he's going after the cartels he will not be denying requests for any and all air support. Get out of your parents basement for a change and get some fresh air. Maybe sign up with the Cartels and show em how much you know - lol

[@terintiaflavius3349]

We literally already sent military and the CIA after cartels in Columbia. Not sure why everyone is acting like this is brand new when it's not

[@dwaynemartin5149]

I love her bluntness< very refreshing

[@Far2hip]

I love how straight up and logical this woman is. She speaks so much common sense and you know she’s not fluffing anything. Her opinions and observations are absolutely solid. 👍🏻😎👍🏻

[@olgamedina1114]

I lived in Tamaulipas Mexico for many years and she is totally right in what she is saying. It wasn't safe having my 3 teenagers girls there, the cartels were getting the young boys to work for them and getting the young girls for them, so we had to leave, fortunately we could get our papers to live here in the United States.

[@Salvador-m8t]

The blind don't see that! Los ciegos morenistas no lo ven o no lo quieren ver por las limosnas electoreras que reciben!!!

[@gatomerlot5315]

"Last letter" was armed with US gunnnns, my dear, this is a complex problem, both countries do have skeletons in the closet

[@bbailey2480]

She realizes we have bombs and spy planes and drones and robots right? We could win and never step foot in Mexico😅😂

[@johngrant5881]

We justtook out a cave in somalia😅

[@johngrant5881]

They have no idea😅

[@BAmerican]

No. No she doesn't

[@motorcitymadman146]

Right. My thoughts exactly. The Cartel would never defend against a AC 130

[@TheMustardking24]

drone striking your biggest trading partner and a sovereign nation at that isn't a good look politically also maybe the us should stop illegally smuggling upwards of 500,000 guns to mexico every year and maybe the us should stop being the biggest customer of the cartels

[@ryanside9117]

Absolute gem of an interview. Brilliant! I’d like to see her in future videos as we move through these crazy times. I do worry for her safety. I hope she’s looked after

[@SamTrew-q4e8d]

The longer she's in Mexico, the shorter her life will be. Sad truth

[@King_Anime528]

What a wonderful brave woman. God bless you! Stay strong and stick to your convictions. Many of us are praying for you and your safety.

[@Ghost-qp2mk]

Does anybody else find humor in this a Canadian trying to tell America how to deal with Mexico

[@afrotheory]

She'll be American soon.

[@notundermywatch3163]

It's some piece of work

[@annazfker2028]

... STOP BUYING DRUGS !

[@motorcitymadman146]

Done.

[@skannerdk7268]

Stop selling them, reap what you sow

[@MR.GRIMM760]

Good lord! Beauty, Brains, Confidence, courage and sass.... She's winning in life.

[@renayeblack5906]

Awesome, brave, and very knowledgeable guest, IRONCLAD. Thank you so much for having her on. God bless your show and your beautiful guest today and always in the perfect name of Jesus Christ. ✝️🕊🇺🇸⚖️

[@robertevans1351]

Then you shouldn't have let them cross mexico to get to the USA

[@El_UnicoMartinez]

Much love and respect to you Katarina , 🙏🏿💚

[@bajajay9818]

It's going to be a private a source via letters of marque. Blackwater is on the comeback

[@wtcirrus]

Erik Prince, please call POTUS.

[@notundermywatch3163]

​@@wtcirrusseems like POTUS is dissing Erik Prince since years back. Erik says they only let once randomly and shook hands

[@jessenunez0922]

I love her way of articulating facts, real & raw af . All journalist should be this real 👊👊

[@Gideon920]

Love how passionate she is about getting the perspective of the people on the ground

[@AIManifesto]

It’s simple: 1. This is not a military solution, never has been. That’s why the US has never solved the war on drugs at home. It’s a public health issue. 2. Prohibition has never worked. It’s no different than alcohol prohibition and the rise of mafias. Legalize all drugs, and treat it as a public health crisis. 3. Letting 50 cal machines guns and rockets across trafficked across the border is taking a common criminal to a military combat ready individual.

[@AIManifesto]

It’s simple: 1. This is not a military solution, never has been. That’s why the US has never solved the war on drugs at home. It’s a public health issue. 2. Prohibition has never worked. It’s no different than alcohol prohibition and the rise of mafias. Legalize all drugs, and treat it as a public health crisis. 3. Letting 50 cal machines guns and rockets across trafficked across the border is taking a common criminal to a military combat ready individual.

[@AIManifesto]

It’s simple: 1. This is not a military solution, never has been. That’s why the US has never solved the war on drugs at home. It’s a public health issue. 2. Prohibition has never worked. It’s no different than alcohol prohibition and the rise of mafias. Legalize all drugs, and treat it as a public health crisis. 3. Letting 50 cal machines guns and rockets across trafficked across the border is taking a common criminal to a military combat ready individual.

[@AIManifesto]

It’s simple: 1. This is not a military solution, never has been. That’s why the US has never solved the war on drugs at home. It’s a public health issue. 2. Prohibition has never worked. It’s no different than alcohol prohibition and the rise of mafias. Legalize all drugs, and treat it as a public health crisis. 3. Letting 50 cal machines guns and rockets across trafficked across the border is taking a common criminal to a military combat ready individual.

[@AIManifesto]

@@Gideon920 It’s simple: 1. This is not a military solution, never has been. That’s why the US has never solved the war on drugs at home. It’s a public health issue. 2. Prohibition has never worked. It’s no different than alcohol prohibition and the rise of mafias. Legalize all drugs, and treat it as a public health crisis. 3. Letting 50 cal machines guns and rockets across trafficked across the border is taking a common criminal to a military combat ready individual.

[@StukaJr]

Say "Tier 1 Operators of the United States" one more time...

[@rafaelvazquez7465]

This is definitely on the msm sheet they get for propaganda term

[@vitrvvioj.3156]

They should declare the drug consumers terrorist as well since they fund the production with their demand and consumption.

[@007ApexPredator]

If the US wants to help Mexico start by labeling politicians who work hand in hand with cartel as terrorist. Even if they find out that the US government along with other Mexican governments members are involved. I believe that it will take the Mexican government to change teams if they see a member of the PRI OR PAN go to jail for cartel corruption.

[@kevingil5049]

The Mexican government will not be behind the cartel because of their sovereignty… That is wildly off however, I agree that Mexico is very nationalistic, prideful and against imperialism. The history between the US and Mexico caused some scars to Mexicans. For example the Mexican- American war caused Mexicans to be aware of imperialistic acts from the US (loss of land due to conflicts with slavery). The US also has meddled into Mexican elections in the past be have supported dictatorship in Mexico which have benefited the US. These issues from the past caused resentment and awareness of imperialistic acts against Mexican politics and economics.

[@P71ScrewHead]

Exactly.. You're Mexican or very well informed on how Mexicans feel about these imperialist countries..

[@terintiaflavius3349]

Santa Ana was imperialist as well. It was not some free Mexican people vs American imperialists. It was Imperialist vs Imperialist. Santa Ana lost.

[@nickjenkins1663]

​@@P71ScrewHead when people act like a war that happened over a hundred years ago. Has much at all to do with anyone alive today, especially saying it effected them. Is like Americans trying to fight the revolutionary war again. It's as illogical as people arguing about slavery. There are no living generations alive that were directly affected by slavery. Or the Mexican American war. Current issues are what matter.

[@wrp3621]

My grandfather served on the USS Rhode Island at the occupation of Vera Cruz in 1914 during the Mexican Revolution. The first Siege of Vera Cruz was in 1847. There's a long history there, so no wonder they are sensitive about it.

[@mattrountree.]

@@terintiaflavius3349 I was gonna say something exactly like that, gotta love peoples selective memory. Dont bring none wouldnt be none.

[@mattshaw7111]

More people need to watch JULIAN DOREY. This is yet ANOTHER guest that Julian had on his podcast who is blowing up and making the rounds. Happy to see her again on this podcast as well.

[@dgbsea4140]

I use to listen to Rogan all the time, but now he’s kind of a sellout I found Julian’s podcast to replace JRE. Julian had the best podcast out (imo), he’s pretty damn knowledgeable for being so young

[@gishjalmr5628]

In the event that US units are operating in conjunction with Mexican units to deal with this, the US units must be wary of blue on blue just like with joint ANA - US operations in Afghanistan.

[@kidneystones3406]

I am a gringo my kid are Hispanics and I know the majority Hispanics are very good people. I have been watching documentaries since the early 90s and basically nothing ever Changes . The Mexican cartel has become more militarized, no big surprise . If you go back the past 50 years and watched the documentaries its the same story only the names change . The Mexican government is basically run by the Mexican Cartel. Here is my question why is it such a big insult that if America makes Mexico a 51 state ? The Mexican people would have a better future for there families. They will still be able to keep their culture values what is the down side. The Mexican cartel would be eliminated why this be bad for the Mexican people ? In 70rs from now we all will be dead and I willing to bet these same stories will repeating over again. If Mexico became a state for American we be saving,lives and Mexico would have better future.

[@dannymccraw4841]

Well you got to cut out the American people that mind you are high up in government making a fortune in the drug business also , the Mexicans are a long long oppressed , selfish people, until they as a whole work together for the betterment of the people as a whole they are doomed. It will take several generations to change them, we were two generations away from good change in irak but we pulled out and those people are most likely all dead or so pissed off they converted to the bad side now and caint blame them one bit. Trump had better go after all involved in the drug trade all! In Mexico and in America , Canada all!!!

[@StudyCanSupport]

Maybe because most of the latinos don’t trust in the racists president that currently US have. It is hard to believe his intentions are good to be honest. You should know better if you have hispanics kids.

[@rachelderagonartist9766]

Just FYI the cartels are operating in the US- no disappearing act there. That won’t change.

[@aaroncontreras7576]

@@kidneystones3406 I’ll explain to you why this is a big insult because of the War of 1848 but not only that if you really saw as much as series as you say you had,The American government never let Mexico develop. Keeping Mexico unstable has always been part of the American policy towards Mexico your own national security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski say they will never allow a Japan in its border. Because Mexico has the potential to become a wealthy nation that’s the truth it just never let it developed. The CIA was the one who started the drug trafficking to finance the War against the communist in Latin America. Then they started making the American people addicted to it because they wanted to keep its people stupid and they are the true pioneers of the Narcos in Mexico they all know this. The War on drugs is just a lie they never wanted it to stop. Now they want to blame all there problems on Mexico and that’s some thing the Mexican government will not accept and the Mexican people will not allow it sovernity to be step on again. That’s why the New government in Mexico does not do everything the US tells them to because things have changed it’s not the same as in the 70, 80 and 90 this is a new change in regime in Mexico that want to get out of the whole and will not allow the US to stop its development like how it did in the past decades. That’s the answer in why we won’t allow it not ever again that’s enough it’s time for Mexico to start growing and developing into the nation it should be.

[@aaroncontreras7576]

@@kidneystones3406 I think they deleted my response

[@andrewayala3582]

I like how she said that the Mexican cartel has nothing against US armed forces 😂

[@Ravensfoot1]

RC135V Flying over Northern Mexico airspace right now.... phase 1 of the "cartels FAFO"

[@LomaWild-k8d]

They really aren’t ready for Air combat superiority I don’t understand why anyone wants to FAFO. Especially with the US gov leaders in power right now. Asking to die

[@javierespana2807]

Mexico is hell, but I travel frequently. 😂😂😂

[@sergioramirez4925]

Right? 😂

[@Betterlaylow1]

There was strategy behind "Abrazos no balasos" it wasnt just literally to not do anything in response to cartels. What makes this problem hard to tackle even for well meaning mexican governments like the last and this new one is that the illicit money from decades of the drug economy has become a big oart of the mexican economy. This is the main reason for taking on the cartel power slowly and calculated . The need to avoid bloodshed was only secondary . Many mexicans today are willing to take a economic hit of it means getting a handle on the rampant corruption they are living under.

[@Salvador-m8t]

Abrazos no balazos, bs, there were bullets but for their enemies and hugs for their narco friends!

[@kevinmarasco5492]

This episode is Awesome! Really good job Katarina.

[@Greek_Man]

She’s hard to listen to .. sorry can’t watch

[@notundermywatch3163]

23 year old girls with no clue thinking they're Pulitzer prize material are hard to listen to especially when they talk loud and swear.

[@mingo2446]

Who’s supplying the weapons to cartel who’s moving drugs all across US and most importantly who is supporting them by buying their product !!!

[@zezarkarlos]

No arrests after Capone

[@edguzman157]

Hollywood.

[@davidorosco525]

Trump is not not Fucking around believe me 😊

[@travisbradbury8337]

Outstanding interview. This girl better be safe and continue to bring outstanding coverage

[@V511-x6p]

She lives in Mexico she full of it she a member of the cartel

[@ryanmcewen6532]

The tariffs crippled the Mexican pride. 10k solider on the boarders

[@WETALKINMEDIA]

They played chess...who do u think the soldiers work for.....very corrupt

[@Far2hip]

Wow. Perfect timing. I was just talking with someone yesterday about the huge change of sentiment of folks down in Mexico going so in favor of Trump designating the cartels as terrorist organizations. The extreme violence is a huge reason why Mexicans run across the border into the US not giving a crap about being illegally here. They would prefer living there if the violence was under control. The cartels have completely destroyed that country as a solidly livable nation.

[@RahimLadhajuma]

Always great insight from Ironclad and it's guests! Such an important episode! Cheers Ironclad!

[@carlosguillermopalafoxalat4514]

Funny to see two gringos talking of something they don't live in.

[@TheRevering]

Yeah, they shouldn't care about those people at all right?

[@Memphis_Mafia]

Great episode! Thanks fellas! God bless America 🇺🇸 and god bless our troops and vets! Let’s MAGA!

[@robertevans1351]

Who cares what they think the cartels that is "hold my beer"

[@ivanolvera420]

24:19 "I've heard a rumour", love the disclosure in the beginning! ¿Is it me or does she looks similar to a ?orn actress? 😂😂😂 P¡nche hippie 😂😂

[@notundermywatch3163]

I know which actress you're referring too and they are both Polish 😂

[@cliffhooper3558]

Couldn't care less about this sovereignty talk. The Mexican government is complicit. Hope help is coming in 500lb increments soon.

[@giovannigiorgio8962]

US government is the one. WTF

[@toddmarshall2726]

This is what people don't quite understand. All tier 1 units are supported with their CCT and massive air support.

[@AIManifesto]

It’s simple: 1. This is not a military solution, never has been. That’s why the US has never solved the war on drugs at home. It’s a public health issue. 2. Prohibition has never worked. It’s no different than alcohol prohibition and the rise of mafias. Legalize all drugs, and treat it as a public health crisis. 3. Letting 50 cal machines guns and rockets across trafficked across the border is taking a common criminal to a military combat ready individual.

[@AIManifesto]

It’s simple: 1. This is not a military solution, never has been. That’s why the US has never solved the war on drugs at home. It’s a public health issue. 2. Prohibition has never worked. It’s no different than alcohol prohibition and the rise of mafias. Legalize all drugs, and treat it as a public health crisis. 3. Letting 50 cal machines guns and rockets across trafficked across the border is taking a common criminal to a military combat ready individual.

[@P71ScrewHead]

40 million Mexicans living in USA 🇺🇸.. Go ahead n try it.. War will not be just in Mexico, promise..

[@Frank-sw2ve]

Mexico can be newer new mexico

[@alf5925]

Soy mexicano y esta chica tiene toda la razón, el asunto es que lo escuchen mejor

[@adrianarias4919]

Soy de la capital de México y estoy a favor de que entre el ejército norteamericano a ayudarnos a combatir a los carteles por que nuestro narco-gobierno no lo hace al ser cómplice y socios en distribución de drogas, trafico humano (incluyendo al infantil) secuestro y robo con arma ya que en México cuando se es víctima de algún delito las autoridades policiacas no atienden nuestras denuncias pues hay complicidad en todos los niveles del gobierno con los delincuentes ($$)☝️

[@osvaldogutierrez9825]

La última vez que los gringos entraron a México sólo nos robaron el 60% de nuestro territorio.........No seas ingenuo!!!!

[@ComeHereGreatness]

If you get rid of the Cartels the people who live in Mexico can actually live a good life and they won't have to run to the United States anymore.

[@alwaystmoza]

Crazy as cartels hate journalists. She'll be safer in Afghanistan 😅

[@uppervsoccer3254]

Is the Mexican Military and Cartel relationship the same as the Lebanese Military was to Hezbollah. The Militaries have no standing in their respective countries, and The Cartels as did Hezbollah run the show.

[@gustavonunez7626]

Where do you get your info from Fox news ?, the Mexican military have killed thousands of the cartel members , what aré the US doing to stop the distribution that the Americans gangs do in the US soil ? What they do to prevent the cartel Buy guns in the US ?nothing , Also the CIA helped to create this cartels in the 80s , so who Is More corrupt?

[@edgytoaster9999]

Yes, Under El PRI and El PAN (Conservative Parties funded by the US). The US is mad that Mexico is leaning Left rather than Right . And yes the Cartel is an issue but Mexicans living in Mexico are smart enough to know that a intervention by the US is not a solution but rather an invasion. Think about it "The War on Drugs" wtf does that even mean?? It's soon performative. How about stoping the flow of money. Americans have to understand that it's an Industry.

[@BobbyJpure]

She was much tanner on Julian Dorey haha

[@joerojas1320]

Great interview. I have much respect for Katarina.

[@deebee2893]

This interview was amazingly informative LOVED every minute‼️

[@JohnDoe-hi2sz]

I like this lady but she contradicts herself in this video. In the beginning, are says that people are fed up with cartels and will support Trump's actions. Later, says they'll join fight because it's attack on sovereignty. Pretty important issue... Should have a consistent opinion. Maybe I'm missing something, here.

[@skalante55]

@@JohnDoe-hi2sz that's very easy to explain, we don't want the cartels but we don't want wannabe saviours either. Every country the US touches ends up worse than before.

[@StudyCanSupport]

Many of us are tired of the carter and corruption, but how Trump is approaching the issue is not correct. Also we don’t believe on the racist president that currently US have.

[@damansbedi]

She meant the government and the Mexican military.

[@ChestyPuller1775]

I know right

[@frankortega5469]

Why didn't you touch on. Where does these high power guns comes from.. and in house US Cartels.

[@Hblmkt]

Another paid reporter by the US. But enjoys living in Mexico 😂

[@CarlosRamirez-no2js]

People from the US ILLEGALLY selling them to the cartel. Higher up law enforcement etc

[@LordHolley]

There was a point when Pablo Escobar was loved by the people of Medellin because he shared his money with the community. If these cartels would work together to help the people of Mexico, they would be a lot harder to deal with. Politicians or cartels, don't forget the people, they will let you pilfer, but you got to share or your reign will be temporary.

[@DR-nh2on]

Corrupt politicians and cartels work together.

[@P71ScrewHead]

Mexican president has an 80% Approval Rating.. She knows how to run the country very well.. Corruption is never ended in one day.. But it's being attacked, from top to bottom..

[@alf5925]

No es cierto de 100 millones de votantes sólo votaron 36 millones y muchos no votamos porque la oposición es igual que los que gobiernan ahora

[@michaelblock3998]

Fantastic reporting from both folks!

[@cesarmeza5331]

If you don't be corruption here is a two way street in the US and Mexico, either you are ignorant or an idiot. Where do you all get the cartels whet all those military grade waepons whe referee to.

[@tazmania23cm]

Me canso esta chava. Desde las grocerias asta las ventiras. Busca alguien mas para tu entrevistas compa

[@Longbow-jt8jp]

She thinks shes safe as a journalist in Mexico???

[@wdwilson397]

Imo, if you want to fly your country flag in the USA then you should be deported immediately to your home country...citizen or not as there are "Denaturalization laws" in the Constitution. Why would would come here if you don't like this country?

[@MiguelMuñoz-m6v]

Why doesn't America stop the flow of US military weapons into Mexico also why y'all don't say anything about it.

[@raymondseekins1872]

She's not in touch with reality

[@RobertRitchie-re5pt]

Shed a liberal fool. Hides behind Canada when convenient but says she’s polish. Works for the cbc and bbc. She’s a flake.

[@mk1gti]

She operates out of Mexico in Sinaloa territories as well as Canada and has visited fentenyl labs there and spoken to those who produce the drug to be smuggled into the US. Perhaps do some more research and watch other interviews with her.

[@alf5925]

Más centrada que tu si esta😅😅

[@Downey-2000]

This channel erases my comments

[@machoman5356]

You tube probably

[@reload.8056]

It's KZbin

[@notundermywatch3163]

It's u tub not the channel.

[@Downey-2000]

@@notundermywatch3163 it's a warmongering channel

[@xochiltrodriguez428]

I am listening to your audible book Vincent. Amazing. Listen to your voice puts my there emotionally and mentally. God bless you and the other BP agents.

[@JoseRamon-n7z]

Vean los problemas de Estados Unidos....y dejen de abusar ...crimen organizado es más en Estados Unidos que en México.....yo viví 25 años en usa....y hay personas que kkk....desaparecen y torturan....y personas comunes ...que an tenido secuestradas por décadas...hablen de eso....de lo que allá ...pasa.

[@tacorevenge87]

Exacto

[@BAmerican]

Yall need some hobbies

[@Salvador-m8t]

Yo vivo aquí y lo que dices no me consta. En cambio lo que se dice del gobierno Mexicano, si me consta😢

[@TheRevering]

You're insane if you think we have more death and destruction here lmao!

[@tacorevenge87]

@@TheRevering data and stats mate.

[@kmroldan17]

i think that was one of the best and informative podcast/video I heard in a long time...

[@sergioc5203]

Everyone is soo tough until you're siblings or family members come home in a box as ground beef or indifferent pieces

[@KevinAround]

Don’t ask a Canadian how they stay in a country. The Canadian government doesn’t want its residents outside of Canada… they charge a “departure” tax if they think you moved out of Canada.

[@tommyg148]

At face value, I would want the American military's help, but I worry that the job may not be completed, leaving those who assisted U.S. forces vulnerable to retaliation. This wouldn't be the first time the American government has put foreign civilians in such a position.

[@PaulDaily-o6n]

I hope she steers clear of Mexico. This probably put her on the target list.

[@notundermywatch3163]

She's 23 , she doesn't really have a clue how dangerous what she's doing is

[@MiguelJimenez-m4l]

Let’s face it, the Mexican government is called cartel when they’re involved in trafficking, what do we call senators, heads of federal agencies and intelligence when they’re involved? We target Elon Musk for uncovering it.

[@jmiranda0324]

Great interview! I just became a fan of Katarina!

[@JoseRodriguez-gy8ju]

It was nice meeting you through this platform 😊

[@ken2tou]

I pray for her safety. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@tazmania23cm]

A huevo papa.