This Old Tony's OPUS!

Filing and Sawing Machine?! starts at 11:00
This is an old machine: scrap metal by today's standards, but in a home shop? ... probably still scrap metal, but so far I'm impressed.
Special thanks to Adam of ABOM79. Check him out @ / abom79
Music (in order of appearance)
"Orbital Romance" - Sir Cubworth
"Hyped" & "Wistful Harp" - Andrew Huang
"Clover 3" - Vibe Mountain

[@KG4JYS]

Back in my day, we filed by hand. Uphill. In the snow.

[@richardcranium5839]

both ways too

[@jurrione]

With a boner? Is that you Walter?

[@robertpearson8798]

Hand, you were lucky to have hands, we had to file with bloody stumps.

[@tomdickharryjane]

With no shoes.

[@arthurmernard5879]

You forgot the lions and bear

[@Rsama60]

I am a German certified tool and die maker. I made my apprenticeship between 1976 and 1979. The first 6 months all we did was base camp training or in other words - filing. I learned to file H7/h7 fits. When you do precision filing you never ever lift the file on the back stroke, you will loose the feel/control of the file on the surface. For deburring I lift as well. So I fully agree. Very good video

[@piotrlenar5652]

I just saw Your comment and what I saw make me laugh. Im a German with typical German name :)

[@mathurm100]

"German certified tool and die maker" you can drop the mic after that. :)

[@campparsonssundayschool7844]

I worked with a German toolmaker named Gerhard Kruger in an edm die shop in Renton WA. He told me the same thing about how he did much filing during his apprenticeship in Germany. He taught this yank many tricks.

[@ken481959]

@@campparsonssundayschool7844 Did he have a brother named Freddy who's a knife maker?

[@campparsonssundayschool7844]

Ken Moore - No but my name is Fred. You can call me Freddy. I come from a long line of Freds who came from Hamberg Germany.

[@erwinruff01]

Just backup your files, so they last longer ;)

[@aserta]

Very punny.

[@OneShotAwayy]

Although all of these comments are hilarious, i actually let out a couple laughs out loud at yours @erwinruff01 well done good sir, well done!

[@bicky210]

I come from an electronics and telecommunications background. Probably never will come a 100 feet near a lathe or a bandsaw. Yet I keep coming here for the humor. Strange really.

[@ken481959]

My son is a computer security type. Not proficient with tools. In fact, I don't want him to use them (power tools) too much. He's likely to cut off fingers and such, and that would mess up his employment opportunities. When he was young, I tried to get him to learn using power tools, and how to do things for himself, but he was not particularly interested. I told him to either learn how to do things himself, in order to save money, or get an education that would enable him to pay someone to do things for him, or he could do both and have the satisfaction of doing for himself AND saving money while not always having to do so and knowing if someone is trying to rip him off.

[@troyna77]

ikr? I will never operate a CNC machine, but I am picking up on tips and tricks and terminology used. and humor, I chuckle throughout Tony's videos as well as his puns. and don't get me started on his "cut away" video clips- u know where he starts to go off on a Tony tangent.

[@AadityaKhare42]

Hehe...me too...an electronics telecom engineer and here I am binging his videos :p

[@jlucasound]

There is something here for everyone! :-)

[@gravelydon7072]

@@troyna77 CNC machine? Is that some newfangled machine for coffee and cream? :-)

[@samrowland2816]

My girlfriend didn't understand why I needed to watch this video, so I explained that you are a god amongst machinists, and she left me, so now I get to watch your videos unhindered

[@polyplastid]

sam rowland I just hide in the bathroom.

[@jonhunt5408]

You really dodged a bullet there! Now you won't have to file for divorce later.

[@Nevir202]

Ya dodged a bullet

[@rcmadness13]

Hahahaha filing for divorce is the worst. That’s when the opus comes in handy. Auto file for divorce. I need an opus now! I need to file!

[@I_leave_mean_comments]

I don't even touch the surface on the forward stroke. My files are going to last forever.

[@unfortunately_fortunate2000]

thats the *ultimate metal/wood/plastic/anything working hack!!!* only the realest of the *real gamers* don't even touch the file to the surface of their work piece, but instead, use their *teeth to do all of their filing, grinding, cutting and even broaching!!!!!!*

[@tvsinesperanto7446]

@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 Don't try to file the steel, that's impossible. Instead try to realise the truth...There is no file.

[@MrFlashpoint1978]

@@tvsinesperanto7446 there is no steel...?

[@vojtechkonvalina7115]

@@MrFlashpoint1978 matrix movie spoon bending reference I guess

[@VarionJimmy]

😂👍👍

[@johnforrestboone1]

Anyone else notice the words change below the 140? Genius. Another of the little details that i love about this old Tony vids. Well done sir

[@knlazar08]

Do you mean when the "*******TATA" turned into "SUBSCRIBE"? I did.

[@wsshambaugh]

18:32 BIG TATAS

[@YvanR0Y]

@@wsshambaugh Big Tatas is Italiano for "large patents". They're just using them to draw attention to boost sales.

[@DrDamoStrikesBack]

I love the little touches in these videos. Just my kind of humour.

[@Kirbofir24]

yep noticed and thought it was genius

[@QQTrick1QQ]

I use to be indecisive but now I'm not sure.

[@robinturner2300]

QQTrick1QQ I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous ...

[@peterjuncker8488]

Robin Turner I would give my lathe to have my ways redone.

[@staminapromos]

I used to be apathetic but I just don't care any more.

[@jmiddlefinger]

Robin Turner I’d give my right eye for better depth perception...

[@corygoff9996]

I'd give my left leg to be able to run faster

[@JohnJaggerJack]

As a young mechanical engineer that from time to time has to get down and dirty with the work/job, this video helped me put some old-school co-workers in their rightful place and create life long vendettas-relationships with them, I am deeply thankful to you TOT. At least now my boss doesn't give me the "business" every time I'm using my phone for anything else than work related phone calls.

[@vicmiller7191]

Adams look about the cheap shot about his shaper was priceless...very well done...thanks...Vic.

[@TheKwajkid]

Sometimes I feel like Tony buys machines just for the puns.

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

I have yet to see him feature his pun machine, but I'm sure he intends to do some work on it eventually.

[@WardXmodem]

...or buys a machine just for the pun of it.

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

Ward Christensen. Haha.

[@rogerthompson926]

@@WardXmodem 0

[@gravelydon7072]

@GREAT GOD MARS Either that or he makes sure that the next delivery occurs while she is out shopping.

[@g06sfj76]

Tony, Adam is a nice guy. Don't draw him down to your level!

[@ethanpoole3443]

g06s FJ Scratch that! :-)

[@adamarmstrong7582]

Haha, draw, filing, get it?!!!

[@christopherbishop4339]

Tony got caught dragging his file back, and had to ship that heavy bastard to explain why.

[@dominicdouglas7580]

Thats one of those machines you see in an old school shop class the teacher never used and you wondered for years, what the heck is it. LoL

[@stevemcelwain5172]

Funny you should say that, thats how I picked up my South Bend Lathe and my (i think) bridgeport mill. From a High School that was no longer offering shop classes for kids not interested in College... They practically gave them to me

[@dirtyshirtinfo]

Right, too dangerous for kids. My teacher made all my projects. All I had to do was think up what I wanted him to do next.

[@snigwithasword1284]

@@stevemcelwain5172 I got an Apple IIc, Mac SE/30 and Compac Portable III (all circa ~1984 "portables") under the same circumstances. Keep your eyes open and ask questions!

[@kingofcastlechaos]

There are brand new CNC machines in a nearby town's HS that sit idle because they refuse to allow us to help teach them. Utter BS.

[@bobadam7021]

@@snigwithasword1284 I came here from 9 months in the future to ask this question. Did it come with Oregon Trail stuck in it?

[@BruceBusby]

Perhaps the drag on the return helps clear the chips? Then I throw them back into the drawer, file on file, lots of other crap on top of them to make sure they remain in perfect condition!

[@samoksner]

brucenoneyabusness well you wouldn't want that dust getting on them urgh gross

[@drhender6943]

I always store my files where they can clang against one another. Helps clean them out.

[@Aubreykun]

I stick them on a harbor freight magnet bar so they can breathe. Don't want moldy, rotting files!

[@shalormckee2784]

Some file on file action never hurt anyone! Legend has it that that even sharpens them

[@anthonyjones657]

I went through a German apprenticeship and first thing you learn is how to use hand tools precisely. We had to file a U channel to dimension. +- .02mm and it had to be flat parallel and perpendicular. It takes most people scraping 3 to get the hand of it. We are taught to never lift on back stroke. Try to saw a straight line or file to general tolerance while lifting. Its impossible! By the way I always start by saw cuts using a triangle file to make a groove for the blade.

[@siggyincr7447]

Same here, did my tool & die maker's apprenticeship in Germany and for the first 3 months the only tools I used were files. I was given a rough sawn chunk of cold rolled and went through all the steps to get it flat and square and then features like radii, channels and square holes were added. We didn't have to hold quite that close of a tolerance, but even 0.1mm was a tolerance that a lot of apprentices struggled with. I learned from guys that learned the trade in post-war Germany, when they didn't have many machines left and nearly everything was filed after being given rough shape in the forge. None of them lifted the files.

[@anthonyjones657]

Yes it sounds like we made very similar parts and were taught from very similar people. I was in germany and I am also a tool and die maker. Pretty cool stuff

[@A1BASE]

I like the tip to use a file to pre slot a saw. Thanks!

[@Molb0rg]

that tip with a file, man where have you been all my live :D

[@pandasalvesen1977]

Funny, we did the same i Norway.

[@billsmith5166]

I bought a filer like that 10 or 15 years ago, but after I filed the 3 things that needed filing, I pretty much had no use for it. Then one Thanksgiving I got an Idea and soon my whole family marched into my shop every thanksgiving to eat their corn on the cob. Was a real time saver. Everything was going great until Gramma Sandy got off center a bit and filled her left sinus to the brim with sweet corn. Took her the biggest part of a year to get it all blown out. Still has trouble with her balance, but I attribute that to all of the bottom shelf Gin that she buys. She wasn't the only one with problems either. It was hell getting the speed just right so a person could breath and eat at the same time. Everyone eventually got tired of it all, and I can't say I miss it much either. Way too much brooming all the corn off the car, ceiling and walls. I still get a kick out of it every once in a while though. There is a lot of enjoyment to be had by seeing how frustrated a cat can get trying to eat catfish off of the thing. By the way, some people call it Maize.

[@MJ-nb1qn]

I laughed till I had tears in my eyes! Great one! THANKS!

[@Scrogan]

You madman

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

you got my chuckle

[@jimanderson699]

HILARIOUS. All the while I'm picturing this as I'm reading it . Very funny , Man.

[@kingofcastlechaos]

This is the ultimate litmus test for when the kids bring home somebody to Thanksgiving that they are "serious" about. "Hey, welcome to the family.........we're headed to the shop.........bring your corn." Redefines "serious".

[@theonlybuzz1969]

What I wouldn’t have given to have this a week ago. My wonderful boss decided he would revise a drawing of a 10mm thick piece of steel , where it was the shape of a egg, a cam lobe of sorts, there’s a 6mm hole 🕳 in the centre for attaching to the end of a shaft, about 10 centres away is a 5mm hole that in this hole he wants two flats opposing each other that are 4mm wide and a distance of 6mm face to face. What I would have liked to have then one of those new fangled mechanical filer, oh mercy!! I managed to do the job, making an Abour from a piece of tool steel and used slitting 1mm disc to create the teeth = it worked really well but I’ll add the Opus to my list of machinery to look out for, thanks Tony it’s a wonderful pleasure to watch channels like yours with really great content, and showing us how it works with the finish achievable. Not all of us engineers have the availability or money to hire a EDM. Thanks again For Sharing this with us........Phil.

[@wileecoyoti]

Reported, found this video abrasive. (But actually glad you mentioned the backstroke filling thing, I think I get a half dozen comments on our channel even when I do it "right.")

[@RANDALLOLOGY]

Ryan Wilhelm if you reported this video, KZbin will probably put it in " FILE 13". LOL

[@steveh8724]

I think it's more cutting than abrasive, but at the microscopic scale who knows...

[@cavemanjoe7972]

@@steveh8724 At the microscopic level, abrasion *is* cutting.

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

I don't care what other people think, these old machines were the foundations upon which we all stand. Some places more then others. Some places quite literally.

[@dalleth]

I'm a simple man, I see a new TOT video and I SQUEEEEEL LIKE A LITTLE GIRL!!!

[@skunklabs4252]

Joel Crawford same man I literally stop working when I get the notification, yo boss going on break

[@nordishkiel5985]

The only thing i don´t like about TOT videos is that i can only upvote them once.

[@operator8014]

Skunklabs - My boss tells me about them when he spots a new upload in the office.

[@colinantink9094]

Sounds like you need some oil on that....

[@vdubjunkie]

Ah, machine lust. There's comfort in knowing others suffer too.

[@joebainter]

The cameo of Abom was a delight, good show both of you. With most new personalities that I come cross on the internet I usually and watch all the past episodes and current, With Tony I haven't done that. That's gonna change! Dude love what you do, I never get tired your video's

[@Invad3r3van]

I have to say, I cannot get enough This Old Tony this week. I have been watching and re-watching your entire catalogue, and your work is so inspiring, and you videos are so enjoyable to binge. I have been on and off again in engineering school for about 3 years, and I start back for the fall semester in a few days, and you really have me looking forward to getting back to school. And while I feel like a lot of modern engineering is done in CAD and CNC, I really look forward to having the resources to design and create things from scratch. And I REALLY look forward to making the money necessary to put together a home machine shop. Keep up the awesome work Tony, thanks for everything!

[@davidoleary3923]

Can't believe Tony The Great has not yet learned to hacksaw on the PULL, not the push. Flip that blade end for end, Tony. Try the pull - you'll thank me. The blade stays in tension, the frame is not stressed, and the biceps are usually stronger than the triceps, giving more endurance and control.

[@dimitar4y]

i never understood hacksaws on the push. they're annoying.

[@knickly]

You'll definitely see both schools of thought claiming to be right. But high tension hacksaws change everything.

[@cayenne7792]

Saws are designed to use gravity and the weight of your arm to assist the cut. Coping saw blade orientation is a good example. less fatigue less effort. Try to always cut/ file downhill....

[@peterjuncker8488]

I push on a hacksaw because the blade is stiff enough and it moves faster. Jewelers saws are the only ones you should be pulling on to cut, because normally you are cutting vertically and pushing doesn't make sense.

[@TheFeller1554]

Back Hacking is the only way to fly!

[@rokkenbole]

The pace you’re delivering your punchlines and your timing is better than anything I’ve ever seen! You have me in tears 🤣🤣🤣

[@pauln1557]

I can't believe I just spent 24 minutes watching a video about filing, I guess it says something about your gift to entertain and inform. Keep them coming! Paul in NZ

[@TheJttv]

Wait I have had my hack saw blades on backwards this whole time...

[@progandy]

That is not wrong if you prefer cutting on the pull stroke.

[@thewakz]

@ProgAndy Maybe he also meant upside down? Nothing wrong with cutting on the up-pull stroke.

[@reh3ddoes]

Heck, I've had my files on backward this whole time....

[@IrishSkruffles]

Gummy Bugz Personal preference does not mean that the other person is wrong.. You can get a LOT more pressure pushing than pulling, so faster cutting speed. As far as stability, I have no clue what you're talking about. I've used hacksaw blades forwards and backwards, it doesn't matter either way the cutting accuracy should be the same. Are you not holding the front of the hacksaw frame? If you are, work on your muscle memory.

[@DieselRamcharger]

gummy bugz is a hack. good at nothing, except being bad. ToT is a craftsman, an artist in his own right. He can't be wrong, for he's doing shit his own way. Was the Mona Lisa wrong? Exactly.

[@markschwarz2137]

Oscar nomination for Adam in the category "Best Cameo Appearance in a Filing and Sawing Machine Video"!

[@RangyJoe]

When I saw the video for the first time I thought to myself "when would anyone need such an old dinosaur of a machine". Now I'm sitting in the garage trying to figure out how to build one with the tools i have because I need one.

[@ianlowe4666]

Brilliant work. First thing I've watched all day that genuinely made me burst out laughing. Adam is a great sport. Thanks to you both

[@JoediyLab]

Bravo, just love the collaboration between you and Adam. I think it makes the world just a bit smaller

[@joshsater4044]

Those Abom cameos are some of the funniest stuff I've ever seen in my life. Had me cackling. Well done, both of you.

[@keithaj1983]

If none of us watch the video past that certain point, does ToT keep talking?

[@keithaj1983]

Speaking of back filling, the draw back on a harder than what your filling part will displace the metal of the part not the file. Doing so on much harder parts, ie almost file hard would probably not be the smartest thing in the world to do.

[@ThisIsAVeryBadIdea]

ToT is ALWAYS talking, whether he's even making a video or not.

[@keithaj1983]

Red Bluefish I thought we were always wrong, that's what everyone woman keeps telling me.

[@PhilipStubbs]

You don't watch to the end? GET OUT!

[@endemiller5463]

I almost Die'd when I hit the like button twice - one for TOT and one for ABOM.

[@ROBRENZ]

Great Video Tony! This is probably THE best video i've ever seen on filing ;-) I completely agree with the "light pressure still in contact back stroke". IMO Soapstone is much better than chalk for a file lube. I like a piece of brass for pushing out the bits that stick in the teeth that the file card can't get. You should do a follow up on finding the files happy places on direction and angle of stroke with various cuts and patterns. I also get my files sharpened multiple times (not kidding) ATB, Robin

[@whatevernamegoeshere3644]

If you are wndering if the joke goes deeper in the beginning, yes. The chip is a Philips tone encoder IC, designed for recognizing words. It's the Philips TCM5087N

[@RealCadde]

"Would your file last longer if you let off a little?" It would last even longer if you didn't file at all... So that question is dubious.

[@CerebralDad]

i like the opus 140 big tatas

[@pekkasaarinen2902]

Don't forget the subscribe after that.

[@turutzi]

Can you please made a shirt whit the "Stopless files hot hot hot 24/7 " picture? This would be so awesome

[@glenralph5123]

Definitely "Stopless Files 24/7 HOT! HOT! HOT!" needs to be on a shirt. Tony, you can do it!

[@glenralph5123]

@@groundzero6662 Niiiiice! I was going to buy that one but I got myself the full color tattoo shirt. It's wicked! If money wasn't tight (or if I lived anywhere other than Australia and didn't have to pay $15 per shirt in shipping), I would have bought both.

[@TandaMadison]

I'm pretty sure that draggin' a wife on the backstroke is an old file's tail.

[@streetfighterracing1583]

That’s pretty alright.

[@MJ-nb1qn]

I talked this over with my Wife. She just looked disinterested, and then head butted me! You are a genius for that reply.

[@aaronholloway2]

I had never heard of that CHALK in the File trick before today! Thanks for the TIP Man!!!

[@RedDogForge]

Ive got the little cousin to this machine made by oliver and its excellent for light precision squaring work on things like slipjoint knife blade shoulders but my goodness tony that old gal is a work of art! Truly a delightful machine!! Wow!

[@jackburton8947]

18:50 BIG TATAS FTW!

[@trmpt8604]

Glad someone else noticed this!

[@tylers6460]

Didn't even see that. Thank you.

[@Server0750]

Ten seconds later it says subscribe ;-)

[@omt578]

I have been watching your excellent videos for several years, it's the first time I've seen your person, thank you for sharing your knowledge

[@SteveP-vm1uc]

My fathr in law had on of these in his machine shop in Rochester, NY. He used it every single day... He said it made a great tool rest. Of course he meant his tools rested well sitting on the table!!

[@davydmir6565]

You want to hear about true love for a machine? At my college theirs this wadkin pp dimension saw which in my opinion is the magnum opus of all table saws but its been thrown in the corner which means you can only get half a sheet of ply on it. But I tell you what I must have the patience of a saint because i'm the only schmuck who uses it! Its even got a sliding table!!!

[@AtelierDBurgoyne]

Davyd Mir I thought the Wadkins PK had a lot of love to give ;)

[@davydmir6565]

Have you seen Jack english machines youtube channel? His PK is really tricked out!

[@lloydgarland4667]

Just gotta love Adam's sense of humour on this excellent video!

[@Toxicity1987]

So a Tone Encoder IC (TCM5087N is a tone encoder) gives Machines the ability to love?

[@TheSethcoleman]

It's the Tony Tone Toneloc chip.

[@Wannabe_Maker]

Lol!

[@benjaminbrewer2154]

Thank you, I was going to go find a bigger screen & resolution. Looking for the datasheet.

[@danmenes3143]

So I wasn't the only one who paused the video to look it up.

[@bennyfactr6122]

Adam was great!

[@fall22123]

The biggest filing project I do regularly is sharpening my lawn mower blade every spring. I clamp it to my work bench and spend 10 or so minutes bringing that pristine edge back. I do drag the file on the backstroke. I heard, like you said, that it cleans the teeth.

[@lewerim]

The Easter Eggs are worth at least twice the price of entry here. Thank you for being overtly and subtlety entertaining.

[@monkporfyrius97]

How on earth do you get abom to do these things ? , i'm laughing my ash off.

[@prodoverjeff2876]

Good to see Abom's smilin' face.

[@orionsswords]

I appreciate the shade thrown at shapers.

[@BRO-RU]

Congratulation! You bought a dream! And thanks for the subtle humor!

[@michaelsimpson9779]

Awesome as always.......thanks TOT.

[@shawnmcauliffe5072]

I have the mysterious yet irresistible urge to subscribe...

[@kc8omg]

The biggest question I have is: where the heck did you find an old dial tone generator chip laying around?!?

[@RGSABloke]

TOT, sitting on a train in Scotland wearing my TOT tee shirt in black. Just to add to the enjoyment, I am listening to your voice and thinking about Alan Alda (MASH). This just enhances my enjoyment. Heard Adam having a dig at you on his latest video😂😂😂. Seriously, you are a hero. Kindest regards Joe.

[@sumfinfromnuttin]

I’m reminded of some files and rasps that I had 30 some years ago that fit in a Bosch saber saw (commonly referred to as a “Scintilla” by the old guys.) This setup worked just like the Opus 140... but without the extra 987 pounds, accuracy or coolness factor.

[@neruelk]

As a toolmaker, I really liked your comment over broken off pieces of grinding stone. quite recognizable! For good files though, you don't have to look further than Vallorbe files. In my opinion the very best.

[@Si74l0rd]

I'm with Abom as far as shapers go. If I could have one large machine, a shaper it would be. I'm sure there's some way to turn a profit with one, even if it's only making chilled KZbin videos lol. I just love watching the chips get peeled.

[@aleciacarpenter7856]

Hey Tony, what are the two black dots on your left wrist? Just wondering. We Love you. That's a fact.

[@matt.604]

Die Filer... its German for The Filer

[@tinoj9661]

Matt P, not really. die is female. filer is male. so this really doesn't fit together. unless you mean a plurality. then its ok. "Die Feiler" would make a tv show about tony and abom solving crimes?

[@ChristophPech]

Die Filerin

[@markruth3938]

I love the way TONY stares into the camera, lmao

[@troyna77]

excellent. I'll FILE this video away for future use.

[@lukajov4153]

In my first year of high school, we were taught how to use files. Our teacher had a unique challenge: if someone could file a square hole and plug to just the right tolerances so it fits perfectly - not too tight, not too loose - they'd get an A for both years of his teaching and wouldn't even have to attend class. We all tried, but none of us succeeded. Curious, we asked if anyone had ever pulled it off during his 30+ years of teaching. He shared a story about one student whose dad had a filing machine. The clever student discreetly took the part home, finished it in his dad's shop, and then brought it back. We lived in a close-knit town in Serbia where everyone knows everyone. As it turns out, the teacher knew the student's dad and had been his teacher too. Eventually, he got the student to admit what happened, and while he didn't give him the perks, he still gave him the coveted A.

[@AttilaAsztalos]

I have an untested theory according to which the properly proper way to rile up file folks would be to start filing another file...

[@noremorsewoodworking2258]

Just file it under F

[@becker990]

Yes Tony, as always you are the best

[@clayz1]

Im a machinist, not a tool and die guy. In my early days (1980’s) every time we needed an odd sized square hole for something, it would be mill to size, then file out the corners. It took awhile to do a nice job of it. Our files were modified to only cut on one side. So a square file would have two opposite sides with teeth, two opposite sides ground smooth. The better to control what side of the square being cut at any moment. There was no lifting of the file on the backstroke. It was just long smooth level forward strokes, the same backstroke, with reduced pressure.

[@tragicvision775]

Does it file your nails well?

[@willierants5880]

23:11 Pause and LYAO...

[@TheFeller1554]

I missed that thanks

[@willierants5880]

TOT puts a lot of Easter Eggs in his vids. They are fun to find. Lots of subliminal Subscribes.

[@BakerGlare]

I lost it at Adam's facial expressions! Brilliant!

[@-TKMAX-]

Amazing video. Loved every bit of it and you editing is on point! I don't even do any metal work but am looking to get into soon. Big Inspiration!

[@m.t-thoughts8919]

I learned in 23:40 minutes more about finishing/filing a surface then in my 1 year of "metall school" in Germany! 😑

[@askmeo2]

Love the comedy bits with ABOMB.

[@jimmacaulay844]

I want one! Or maybe a smaller version. This could have saved me so much effort on many projects over the years. Love your humor! Will we ever see your face?

[@jamesmillard259]

Abom looks like a serial killer there

[@paulbecket7399]

the reason filing machines don't have a problem with damaging the file teeth on the back stroke is the proper adjustment with the canudering wrench and occasional aplication of blinker fluid

[@johnnyaach4474]

I can watch your videos all day

[@jlucasound]

ABOM79!! That was great and really unexpected. I don't know what to say. Historically, great celebrities do "team" up, so when we get old we can sit in front of the (our own) television (computer) and say, "Oh! That's what's his name from, you know. The movie about the machine thing? No, the other guy. Your thinking of the guys that built the things with lights and stuff. I always liked when they did shows together." You gentlemen are both MASTERS!! What? I should watch the whole video? Ya, I'm @1:11 and who knows what (who) else Tony will "pull out of his sleeve"! Awesome cameo Adam!

[@JoelzombieThomas]

That last piece you showed makes me want to have a solid brass cassette replica- hand filed, of course.

[@barabolak]

Hey Tony! How come you don't have a Patreon account yet?! I have a $30 dollar gift card collecting dust on my table here!

[@waterfallforge8320]

I can relate. I had my Opus removed about five years ago. One of those things we old guys have to deal with.

[@frankcsernetics2376]

I'm a licenced Machinist with over 30 years experience. I love your videos! Great humor and good information! How about you do a video on draw filing? You could have switched your file technique to draw filing when you were near the finished part of your filing.

[@Dullman271]

love the Abom reference .. great job tony ..love you

[@jaykacin1334]

this is my favorite channel ever

[@wayneparris3439]

I have 2 die filers, both are smaller but when needed, they are just the thing. Just an observation, the machine is designed to file on the DOWN stroke, this makes the hold downs simply there to prevent bounce on the return stroke. While I am retired now, I spent a lifetime in aircraft tooling, jigs and fixtures. We used to lay out then file a lot of templates, you only have a small hole here, try filing 3 to 8 feet "to the line" actually to half the line and you will come to love a die filer. Nice score!

[@donbell8187]

If Abom wasn't such a great machinist, he could make a living as a character actor.

[@SuperSecretSquirell]

I'm loving these Adam cameos are killing me!

[@raphallusek]

I love all those 'easter eggs' like changing machine name:)

[@Flymochairman1]

When I was an apprentice, we didn't 'back-file' unless it was a soft metal, so it would keep the file from clogging; especially if it was an old, ratty, oily old brute of a file. Having said that, lifting off on the back stroke could lead to too much radiusing on the edge if trying to cut a flat 45degree chamfer if we didn't pull back...(there's a joke in there somewhere...) Lately(2005) I had to give up on some jewellry making as the filing was just too arduous and finicky with the needle files et.c. I was using. It's obviously way bigger than needed for needle files but I would love to own an Opus Filing and Cutting machine. I'd also like to have the workshop to use it in but I can't have it all my own way. Excellent video and greatly informative. Cheers Tony.

[@michaelvadney5803]

Very entertaining. Thank you.

[@paulwiggans3692]

As an apprentice toolmaker in the late 1970's, we used a die filing machine to add draft to our press tool dies.The file had to be set square to the table using the 4 set screws at the top of the file. We never, ever used a square file for a square hole always a three-square file. The computer doesn't recognise that word, three sides of file for filing a square hole because square files aren't exactly 90 degrees at each corner. It ain't broaching! As to lifting on the back stroke. It makes little difference to the life of the file, it can pull the pins out and it does irritate the foreman. A win, win, win in my book.

[@haydenamaro]

This old tony is a national gem

[@Gottenhimfella]

According to Nicholson's 1928 Magnum Opus (!) "File Filosophy" (yikes) p17, machine file teeth are quite a different shape to hand file teeth. But far from having to do with the backstroke problem, (which is not mentioned in the entire work, as far as I can see) the reason given is that when a file is new, it is (or was, back then) important not to press too hard; you need to wait until the cutting edges are slightly less sharp, or you will ruin the file. Machine file teeth are shaped (presumably) more robustly, as pressing hard is the name of the game. I personally don't care about the backstroke thing unless the material I'm filing is nearly as hard as the file. In this case I am careful to press VERY hard on the forward stroke, which needs to be slow, and lift on the return stroke. It's perhaps worth noting that power hacksaws generally lift on the return stroke. But I have one which does not, and it's noticeable that it is more prone to chatter on the forwards stroke than "proper" machines.

[@Gottenhimfella]

Actually, I got that wrong: the "Filosophy" treatise DOES say "The pressure on the file should be relieved during the back stroke", and repeats the recommendation for lathe filing and for draw filing.

[@Gottenhimfella]

On further reflection : The main situation which prompted me to avoid dragging on the return stroke, whether filing or hacksawing, was stainless steel (or any alloy with a high nickel content) with its tendency to harden right up when the tool rubs, taking the sharp edge off instantly. Most homeshop guys seem to mistake the resulting heating (a *symptom* of a blunt tool) for the *cause* of the hardening. Stainless steel does NOT harden when heated: it gets hot as a result of trying to cut it a) with a blunt tool, and b) when it's hard, requiring more cutting force and hence energy and hence heat. (It took me a while; one problem with being around engineering for a lifetime is you form strong views and intuitions, but towards the end start to forget why you did. Which is dangerous, because things change. For instance it used to be routine to avoid tapping blind holes, but with modern spiral flute taps, and a tapping head, or a machine with accurate and reliable auto-reverse on reaching a set depth, it's a doddle - but many old-timers will not do it)

[@mathewmolk2089]

Yo,,,,,Same thing with a band saw blade. If you "break it in" slowly it will last 3 times as long and cut 4 times as straight. Don't run it backwards, though :')

[@ken481959]

@@Gottenhimfella The process is known as 'work hardening'.

[@Gottenhimfella]

@@ken481959 Indeed. Engineering scientists call it 'strain hardening'

[@PS-rr2jt]

One of the best videos ever!

[@thl234098]

When i was an apprentice (blacksmith) we learned about 2 different type of files, well the cut of them, single cut and cross cut, singles was designed for finish ( and learning how to file) due to its lack of cutting at a backstroke and cheaper price, crosscuts cuts in both strokes.

[@mxcollin95]

Never heard of using chalk on a file. Good tip. 👍