Thomas Carter & Lisa Picard - 1st place All-Stars Jack&Jill - TAP 2021 - The After Party 2021

[@tamt5846]

An ex-professional dancer here, I absolutely loved this! The chemistry was there, perfect footing and arm placement!💕

[@yououtuber4176]

I was trying to make sense of this, being the first time I have ever seen this on YT. This is basically like the jazz of dancing?

[@topiatransformations2387]

This is, in fact, not "jazz" dance. It is a style called "West Coast Swing". Jack and Jill means there are random partners selected to dance together with random WCS music. Subsequently, couples do not have choreographed dance routines but dance together spontaneously- All improvised in real time. Jazz dance is completely different and has its roots in African dance mixed with European dance. It's usually high energy and can have any number of dancers participating from 1 to many. (There are many different styles of Jazz dance)

[@yououtuber4176]

@@topiatransformations2387 Let me explain my comment. In Jazz you go with the flow and make up as you go. This to me is the same idea.

[@marialooksaround]

@@yououtuber4176 I get what you are saying but I wouldn't say it's entirely that. In west coast swing you have certain recognisable patterns consisting of 6 or 8 counts. It's how they chain them together or what "flavour" they add is what makes it improvisational. Admittedly I don't know much about jazz music, maybe there is a certain recognisable rhythm to it as well?..

[@yououtuber4176]

@@marialooksaround Thank you for the explanation. Makes better sense now.

[@Valkyrou]

​@@yououtuber4176 hi I do WCS and have a music background. It's very close analogy actually. I've also thought of it like this. Jazz has a set of tools people can imploy and they use that to make improvisations. Many times musicians will bend and break "tools" for a variety of intentional reasons. Similar here. West Coast Swing has a lot of tools and options. Many of those tools can be twisted and broken as needed. Couples use this to make improvisations.

[@joshuastaticx]

I love Thomas

[@l8ins669]

I am REALLY curious what the original song was. I really want to listen to the whole thing. The tornasoul alien one. Can anyone tell me the song name and artist or send me a link. They did such a good attempt at the start of it. WELL DONE!

[@derekfrostbeard6419]

Are these improvised or did they choreograph this before hand?

[@zetaane]

Jack&Jill means it is improvised :)

[@klo4199]

Wow! Wow! Wow!

[@sheriburns4153]

Fantastic!

[@roostercogburn6469]

Victoria and Ben are the GOATS! Why aren't they dancing any more?

[@MooImaHippo]

Victoria and Ben are still dancing but you do realize you're watching All stars and not invitational right

[@BPawn6]

1st song is absolutely pointless

[@DanceJudge]

this is sort of a beginner's category compared to the experience of champions, so go easy on them.

[@storkdiva]

Nice, but not First Place caliber in my opinion. Ben Morris & Brandi Guild "Shivers" were MUCH BETTER in their musicality and choreography.

[@ttlinart]

I don't really think it's fair to compare the All-stars to Champions. This is All-star (which is one level lower than Champions) .....not Champions Division. Ben Morris and Brandi Guild's "Shivers" was the Champions division winner :) Also none of this is choreography. All of this for both divisions are improvised. The first song was something Victoria Henk selected as a song and all the allstars had a prompt they had to follow + they've never heard the first song before.

[@storkdiva]

@@ttlinart Thank you for the explanation. I understand now. Have a nice day!

[@marietucker1963]

She's not that good sorry

[@MS-hv2ub]

Lisa Picard is overrated. A few of those CA dancers got to where they're at because they partied with certain crowds.

[@ttlinart]

Agree to disagree. Lisa is phenomenal as a person and dancer. Her ability to improvise on the fly and do it well is why she is now a Champion dancer. The fact that she's even made it there is incredible because to move up from All-star to Champion you need 150 Allstar Jack and Jill points. Plus if you watch a lot of the times she's competed in allstar at other events not in CA....she kept on winning it or placing. Just saying...she's really that good.

[@MooImaHippo]

@@MS-hv2ub Yo let's see your all star finals dance

[@ArisDeMarcoWCS]

@@MooImaHippo pretty sure if I danced with either randomly negative commenter I'd come to the conclusion... that they're not that good. Sorry not sorry 🤷