Charls Carroll on Spiritual War; Mazes in Mazes; Opting Out of Babylon - Thorinquiry (Philosophy)

Charls Carroll, comedian and streamer, is the star of the 16th episode of 'Thorinquiry'.
Having been through the public ringer himself for his comedy and arriving at a similar philosophical perspective on the fallen modern world I appreciate Charls's perspective and we explore such topics.
This interview was recorded on the 20th of July 2022.
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[@MKUltraMoney]

Probably the single greatest episode of a podcast I've ever listened to.

[@CharlsCarroll1]

legend

[@G-G._]

Yeah put the coloured pills down boys and listen to some Thorinquiry

[@thirtycenturyman]

amazing. 💯

[@mistaando9741]

4chan is nu reddit now anyway

[@sicilian_maxing]

@@CharlsCarroll1 love you charls. great episode man

[@scoon2117]

I love that Charls checked out and carved his own path. The culture war is noxious poison where you can delude yourself into believing you are a martyr instead of focusing on simply making yourself a better person. Charls is a really nuanced unpredictable thinker and it seems to me when he opens his mouth he intends to make the world a better place.

[@calebwilson5370]

this quickly opened my eyes to what you just said about how these political/cultural traps can result in deluding yourself of any worthwile progress to fixing yourself and your problems. really good way to put it! i can see so many examples of stagnation in life in others from being caught in the thick of the war going on.

[@scoon2117]

@@calebwilson5370 yeah! :)

[@GenuflectingRotation]

Sike

[@drinkbleech]

charls is my spirit animal. seeing how he views and process the world is so fucking relatable and i appreciate him

[@kushtoffe2801]

Same

[@TopDrawer_Art]

Charls is a real one. Probably one of the only Twitch streamer I appreciate.

[@Dan-zs1wo]

What a great guy! Charls is a national treasure & a goldmine of esoteric information & wholesome witt & wimsy...

[@lowestofthelow.]

As I make my way through this podcast. I cant help but notice the almost instinctual triggering of discomfort and terror in me when I am forced to confront my utter powerlessness in the shadow of the machine. school in the early 2000's was very close to the generalized experience you discuss. whilst you only briefly mention brave new world. It feels like society is organized almost precisely in that manner, every class is given exactly what they need to remain pliant and the alienation is palpable if you try to step out of the box. To add a personal story, I managed for a year to reach my peak physical fitness which was making it easier to strive towards independent freedom and more importantly potentially influence my mother to alter her (honestly fake) choices so she doesn't end up in an early grave, but never did I realize the relentless SABOTAGE would be perpetuated by those nearest to me. So now she is on the verge of death and possibility of preventing it is beyond the event horizon. a side thought that the mazes within mazes angle, the layers to the psyops strikes as containing an interesting parallel with dantes inferno, there is always another layer deeper in hell, but eventually you will hit the bottom and from there you can make your ascent through purgatory in pursuit of heaven.

[@2014dotcom]

Life is like a MrBeast Gaming challenge

[@BumpTune8462]

@@2014dotcom and instead of a lambo or a million dollars you just get coffin and infinite pain

[@JonGunnrOHainifin]

Not just the deepest layer of hell, you have to crawl across satan's taint and worm out of his ass crack

[@notstrong5789]

They love to say you can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink but that's another false idiom intended to make you leave behind your family and loved ones when they don't change fast enough for you. If the dumbass horse won't drink water then shove his head into the water lol

[@lowestofthelow.]

@@notstrong5789 you can't negotiate with terminal illnesses

[@zel0451]

Literally completely forgot about this channel, used to love it when the content was more regular. And it comes back from the dead with an mde & thorin crossover? Amazing, thanks.

[@lennywayes4245]

We never forgot about you Charls. Glad you've made it through all the insane shit.

[@CharlsCarroll1]

Thank you! Was just griping, I erased myself going under the radar honestly. I did make it through way more alive than before.

[@kushtoffe2801]

What happened?

[@Blowhard]

The point about becoming pain before transcending I felt very heavily. At my lowest point I was wracked with some cursed weight in my chest. It wasn't stress- it was strangely tied up with my emotions and thoughts, and had its roots down to my core. It was like an existential pain, like a dagger had been thrown into my soul. I started working on myself after it became too unbearable to live with.

[@farmerspoonz]

This is the most bizarre, unexpected, and wholeheartedly exciting crossovers I’ve ever seen; and it’s made possible by the apparatus ideological puritans fear most.

[@greensoldier2142]

I came because of Sam, really liked Nick, but Chatles man, I stayed for him. What a chad

[@theraybeam7581]

Same. Charls was an acquired taste to me unlike the other 2 but now he’s my fav. So happy the boys are back together now too. MDE never dies

[@hellworld3000]

I DEMAND A 5 HOUR PODCAST WERE CHARLS DISCUSSES NOTHING BUT ANTARCTICA If my demands are not met IM TELLING THE ALPHA A.I you have been warned...

[@jonamar3965]

Hope you're enjoying The Palace!

[@kushtoffe2801]

@@jonamar3965hi dude. Yes this is awesome 😎

[@Demention94]

Yesssss

[@rseasyguidesto]

Is the palace good?

[@BigPeon]

Astonishing crossover

[@fafafaf919]

Never expected this,God bless the both of you

[@yikeyikeyike]

charis is a true bro, most enjoyable twitch streamer by a mile

[@e3k0n]

Some of the best audio available on the internet

[@lifeenjoyerluke3360]

Please do another talk, this was great. Reminds me of “you can’t get there from hear” from Doug TenNapel and charls

[@RJ-se9op]

it's really nice to hear someone saying the things i thought regarding these topics. im glad others have these opinions. thanks

[@GrendelFromDC]

What a wild crossover

[@lafarga2330]

Thank you so much for having this interview with Charles and discussing said topics.

[@aken0]

Truly blessed by this crossover, cheers lads

[@MercoLunarTarus]

Yoooooooooo. Love love love this!

[@roger_something]

Amazingly powerful video. So much of what is being said here are conclusions I have come to myself the past 5 years. Its been a long journey of introspection and self discovery, but its only been in the past year that i have been able to finally move past all the bs and start living. Would love it if you brought charls back on.

[@danielwalley6554]

This is why I was always a fan and always will be, even when the twats sometimes tried to pillory you. Conversations like this are a breath of fresh air in a culture where they're simply too uncommon.

[@Martyred_Artist]

Prayer and meditation is the answer. Thank you Charls.

[@thewintersessions]

This is wonderful, thank you for being so respectful and celebratory- Charles means a lot to a lot of guys.

[@glaakee]

I loved both of the Charls Carroll interviews. Top tier enjoyment👍

[@kushtoffe2801]

Which other interviews ? Please

[@JoeSmith-fw8ix]

Revelation of method. Revelation of method is very powerful -- if they show us something they're going to do and we allow them to do it, they understand that as consent.

[@CharlsCarroll1]

it's not comic ethical because the populous of this planet is heavily decimated by invisible war sorcery, it is still by quiet force.

[@TheToxicGunn3r]

Damn the point they made about the need to be ready to accept wisdom, and how you can come back to something you read before and see it completely differently because you are different really hits. I was an atheist most of my life, 2 years ago I read the Bible and became a believer. When Charles says he say himself in those pages and saw that they faced similar evils to us today I got chills because I felt the same way.

[@AndoLaj]

Absolute mineral of a video, doubly so considering Charls' recent break from streaming. Great discussion, nice upload

[@yams2026]

wtf is this crossover am I in a fever dream

[@j03T3XAz]

This convo dropped some insane truth bombs.

[@Mrrelma]

At 1:19:31 You could use resilience (psychology) they don't explicitly add spiritual but use the modern "mental/emotional toughness" instead.

[@breadtoucher]

lol I didn't expect this

[@lemma6994]

Love Charls. Can't believe I missed this

[@westeast6599]

Holy based

[@bernhard_jaeger]

I always found it strange why people who discuss things like oppressive societies, indoctrination, etc. always talk in this weird vague way. Talking with abstract, fuzzy concepts and never getting to concrete examples. Torin explains this in this interview by saying that talking in vague, abstract ways avoids painting a target on your back, which makes sense to me. I think it does devalue the conversation to some extent as only people can understand you who already (almost) know what you are talking about. And it makes it hard for the listener to distinguishing the speaker from people babbling vague bs. Then again, that might be the reason why vague criticism is not persecuted.

[@nofluffagain]

isn't this described in detail from 1:15:49

[@Toropetskii]

Very interesting to explore this stuff as usual. I get a bit lost when you really go into the thick of it, about history and the world and such base stuff that I would consider self-evident. Maybe I can only say I agree with 40% of what was discussed. But it's healthy to get other perspectives and try to form a better picture of the world to operate within.

[@worm9862]

The biggest takeaway is to choose life over the common bugman nihilism. Even if you don't buy the conspiracy stuff and Christianity stuff that right there pretty much gets it all across the board.

[@sunofslavia]

Until this interview I thought that Charls is "just" an outsider comedian. What an interesting interview!

[@wangchung_]

This was awesome

[@maldemer4912]

Bullets flying by, forever

[@fbo717]

chuck is going off

[@PhantomPhace]

probs have to listen to this every day

[@sleepyproduction7166]

It’s insane, and I feel so bad watching the prison sketch on MDE cause I have wasted my life. I got aware and nihilist very early and gave up. Working on seeing the beauty in the world now.

[@MrThegza11]

First time I had to slow the playback speed down instead of increasing it.

[@Hornnnnnn]

great crossover, great convo

[@notstrong5789]

That John Maus music video/performance should've netted Charls an award for his acting. It's criminal but my dog remains magnanimous.

[@Borzoi_Hoss]

Thank god Charls is involved in world peace 2

[@10angrytigers]

Great talk! God bless yas!

[@Tophe]

Forgot about this channel! I've got some catching up to do...

[@PlasticBag4Status]

Imagine a remake of They Live, with Charls playing the lead role of Nada.

[@chapman3713]

MDE is my favourite limited hangout in The Matrix.

[@EquinoxGate]

41:58 even The Joker doesn’t mess with IRS

[@ImmortalTatewari]

when you 2 guys talked about there is certain timing in movie releses and other information... It's astrology. They look at the stars to get a perfect moment, when the power of information/words/ideas will have the strongest effect.

[@rodli11]

God brought me here, you all too! Cheers

[@11colobos]

Awesome discussion

[@benjaminmcvay9864]

🔥

[@user-of8gd2ix5i]

holy shit mde x thorin

[@mikhail4]

"Haha yeaaah, go to hell". Soo good.

[@John-mf6ky]

I just started this pod but the maze inside maze makes me think of a thought I had stoned as a teen. That were all living in a matrix (the rat race/modern life) within another matrix (reality itself). I still somewhat believe it too. We humans love to overcomplicate things.

[@MatthewMetanoia]

1:32:30 Charls is dialed in here

[@SHDW-sy7oz]

luv chuck

[@PTR333]

Vote ? yeah i'll vote for wearing kneepads - Charls Carroll

[@ImmortalTatewari]

Ok this was fantastic

[@arranberns4073]

This is the most absurd crossover yet

[@AMX30BB]

What the fuck is going on, there is no way this is real life lmfao.

[@wagoodwin3]

The Screen is Pandora's Box. "Here" refers to a particular location. To simply "be" or exist, requires a presence either "here" or "there". Even the mind can be occupied. Safe and "sound" is a destination. The proximity of "here" to "there" is directly proportionate to their awareness of and influence upon each other. Speech manifests. Manifestation is the God-power. The phone in One's pocket, is the shit-stained hand of the puppeteer. Pandora's is a lidless box. To hear the message for what it is, or to remove Oneself from its influence, is to remove Oneself from the location the which is manifested by the message. If it has a source, it can be destroyed, and therefore controlled. "Paradise is exactly like where you are right now; only much, much better." Laurie Anderson -

[@BigJonkulous]

Looks like those telescope boys got their hands on a Spirograph.

[@Ba_Ado_Mushroom]

Honestly I would have thought thorin would have been a fan of brave new world. Who knew

[@thesheep6248]

@1:31:00 theres a bald guy in russia doing just this right now

[@hifimonkeykong]

2 hours of pure schizophrenia

[@jacebohannon9308]

Based speedrun.

[@C3lticlord]

this is amazing, very knowledgeable, I've always thought that taking sides is stupid tribal shit and yeah the whole system is fucked because it stems from sin.

[@pricc-om]

man, ztvff like thiz keepz me goin. Chuck, if yov can read thiz, we gotta make zome mvzic or zomethin man. even if not, if i never meet yov at all, yov gotta know that finally hearing theze wordz from zomeone ovtzide of my vnrelenting inner monologve iz conziderably comforting. to thank yov zo kindly for the zhredz of mirth yov zow within me, i will be certain to achieve my zenith vnimpeded by all of the flvid i zhed along the way. _'who wovld believe yov thovgh...?'_

[@notaboutit3565]

Colaws alt?

[@user-im4wl2ci5n]

1:59:37

[@ZeRandomShow]

30:00

[@ZeRandomShow]

1:11:00

[@ZeRandomShow]

1:16:00 - 1:21:00

[@ZeRandomShow]

2:00:00

[@tubbyrainbow111]

2:12:45

[@sunofslavia]

Oh my, Thorin, you must have been direly disappointed by the latest "Dune" film. Hearing the subliminal hope for a good second movie, breaks my heart a tiny bit (because the 2nd movie was shit in comparison).

[@biloidrizaj4466]

Sad what "esports" has become

[@Schleeeg]

1:30:45 they released “leave the world behind” i wonder what they are preparing us for 😅

[@PJosepherum]

Stop shouting

[@yusufronco]

Jesus Christ, I wish this guy would just let Charls talk.

[@CharlsCarroll1]

lol I’ve been talking alone for so many years it’s practice for me to listen intently.

[@Kuna-xc5os]

It’s not an interview, it’s a discussion.

[@CharlsCarroll1]

@@Kuna-xc5os yes, best one I’ve had in a long long time.

[@oliverscott1181]

Idk i just think we should not say the lord's name in vain

[@putinstea]

Never heard of this guy, yet you both imply he has some kind of story. Sounds like he got cancelled. Why?

[@horrifyingcat]

@@plasticenemy and too TRUMPY

[@SK_1337]

forgot to unsuub to this channel. GL

[@dylanthomas5951]

Waa waa

[@_bigf0ck_]

Big charls fan

[@horrifyingcat]

still listening to this, i heard the idea of "opting in to the apocalypse" brought up and if I'm thinking of it correctly it hit me really hard instantly. people fucking love misery and they cannot wait to yammer on about it at any opportunity. and the end of the world shit is porn for a lot of mfs. here's what i know, if it matters. i grew up on AOL in the 90s and that's the first time i really heard people go on about the end of days stuff like really hardcore. since that was my first time hearing about that stuff outside of church or whatever i thought well holy fuck, maybe this is it, year 2000, whoa that number oh fuck, y'know that whole deal. but did i really believe or buy into it, not really. anyway fast forward 30 years to now and let me tell you, it's the same shit I've been hearing since 1995, and it's never stopped. you're fucked, you're dead, you're raped, you're going to hell, perdition, whatever. i never bought into it then and i sure af ain't now. maybe I'm getting it wrong, but i ain't opting in to shit

[@ricflair8907]

opting out of babylon. didnt have a phrase for it but thats been me for the last 10 years. there has been a couple very hard times but my character is stronger, im less stressed and ive found like minded people who also want nothing to do with this modern insanity.

[@maleldil9539]

The fact that threads criticizing Charls' and his family still appear on 4chan frequently literally prove the existence of the deadmachine

[@CharlsCarroll1]

Nerds mad lol

[@korbo2796]

they don't though.

[@horrifyingcat]

@@korbo2796 "don't" what. appear frequently? maybe not. but they do appear

[@crud420]

they want you to die alone and if you don't they'll start shitting on her skull shape it literally never ends

[@metan616]

Whats the deadmachine?

[@calebwilson5370]

getting into charls streams when i was sick as a dog last winter absolutley set me on a better course. really neat guy!

[@anonymous-dk3um]

As a christian i resonate with a lot of this

[@wagoodwin3]

So grateful to have found this. I've been living out of my car for a year and a half in Austin TX, and I haven't found anyone who has or wants to cultivate this awareness. I've wished I were insane, out of the soul-crushing loneliness and disappointment. I've lost everyone and everything, but am seemingly the only person around here paying attention. Those two aspects of my situation compound each other as long as One is unwilling to more shrewdly wield One's language. Language is what gave me awareness and continues to expand it. Massive gratitude for the reminder to not only hone the blade, but to let it teach me to dance. With new moves. 🔱

[@nofluffagain]

My fav interviewer with one of my fav comedians. Wow we are so lucky.

[@TristanC20]

“If they don’t want the topic to be discussed, it is not allowed to be discussed. They shut you down” I immediately think of Ryan Dawson. This guy has been repeatedly wiped from the internet for saying only things that are true. Justifications for why a person can be demonitized, demonized, silenced and ran out forcefully always comes from people invested deep into the machine. Awesome thought provoking content.

[@kidflersh7807]

cringe.

[@horrifyingcat]

@@kidflersh7807 what, did you see a mixed race couple or something

[@kidflersh7807]

@@horrifyingcat I'm based, but not THAT based.

[@TristanC20]

@@kidflersh7807 true

[@utewbd]

​@@kidflersh7807 What's wrong with what he says?

[@Fenriz1222]

I came here for Charls just because his streams are great but you 2 together are tremendously interesting. I will be checking out more of Thorins content.

[@bunbruv6450]

Amazing. Charls is literally a genius.

[@zebadee50]

GOAT unexpected crossover

[@1337BR3NZY]

no fucking way ahahahah this is so sick

[@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz736]

Thanks for this talk Duncan and Charls, I feel like I've been stuck at just starting the process of freeing my mind for the past decade, this discussion was a motivator to take bigger leaps. life is short.

[@milkchad9827]

Good luck man

[@MrTerrygreenbeans]

Can’t wait to watch this

[@evolvedHE]

Can’t wait to listen to this

[@znojnyj]

Connection throttled by something?

[@klof4276]

Charls I just wanted to say cheers from Tunisia! Bettawfi9 w'nchallah tjibelna 7keya raw3a lan'har... el cha3b 9a3ed yestanna sa7bi: Rahom i3adhbou fina 3DHEB. In this shit-ass of an "ironic" society I just wanted to sincerely say: "I never doubted ya..."