Three DC20 Rules from DC 20 to BUFF your DnD Game!

[@Dave89rr]

WHAAAT. I just finished watching this and saw it only has less than 600 views??? Great vid, I assumed I was watching a much bigger channel

[@MilesAwayGames]

Dude… I think you just made my week! Hope you subbed!

[@hosschaos676]

For the death threshold I would make the negative hp equal to the character’s level + con mod. So it slowly increases as they level and fight enemies that do more damage.

[@MilesAwayGames]

I'm taking this, my guy!

[@GutisFive]

Hi there! Coach touched on a damage variant in one of his livestreams, and if you want to add rolls to it you can take every point of damage as a d6. So, for example, if you hit is 1d6 damage, but if you make a heavy hit is 2d6 and so on. Remember to adjust hp accordingly lol

[@MilesAwayGames]

@@GutisFive ✅

[@Knucklebone.of.Fickle.Fortune]

Rather than stealing rules from DC20, why not just play it. I love DC20, never going back to D&D

[@senrith_]

Funny cos I made Death's Door rules in my own games a while ago so if anything DC20 stole from me. :P

[@mkdynasty272]

Why not let people just enjoy using stuff from other systems and have fun

[@martinbowyer7906]

​@mkdynasty272 I agree that let people play what they want. However, there's a point where you are incorporating so much from another system that it began the question why not play that instead. This is kind of my view on any kind of game. Like my friends who mod Minecraft so much it unrecognizable, because they like what you can do in Factorio or Satisfactory.

[@MilesAwayGames]

@@senrith_ 👀👀👀

[@MilesAwayGames]

@@mkdynasty272 I'm so with you, but also why not both! I can't wait to try DC 20 also!

[@Rechanmole]

Two things. 1. That background music is funky great. 2. Great to see more DC20 videos. :D

[@MilesAwayGames]

@@Rechanmole 🪩💃🕺🏻

[@evanallen4987]

aMAZING! It immediately brought a lot more interest from my newer and younger players!

[@MilesAwayGames]

@@evanallen4987 LETS GOOOO!!!! Which part!?!?

[@Eisenbrei]

The "Degrees of Success" is taken from EarthDawn, basically prehistoric ShadowRun. And for the good attack rolls i would simply add anything over the AC as bonus damage, so it would be "attack roll" - AC

[@MilesAwayGames]

@@Eisenbrei is earthdawn the original degree of success game? I did not know that!

[@Eisenbrei]

@@MilesAwayGames I cannot guarantee that it was the first, but it is the oldest system i know that uses them.

[@travismueller8282]

A good way I've thought to implement the "degrees of success" for combat is to make each degree another weapon damage die. So 1d12 for axe, 2d12 for axe at +5, then you could run crits as maxed damage dice instead of extra dice so it still feels good. This would be the same for saves too far under the DC. I like death's door as a low number mechanic, one action/movement/bonus action per turn, -1 HP if you're not stabilized, a CON save as an action if you want to stabilize, -[prof+CON mod] is death. It still makes taking any actual hits deadly once you're on the door, but gives you some rounds to get healed if you're not being attacked. A higher number could be as much as [CON score+Level] if you want to have less instances of instant death from damage overrun, though it makes the bleeding damage less effective.

[@MilesAwayGames]

@@travismueller8282 the more I think about it I like this more than my dice increase!

[@StephaniePlaysGames]

Okay - BUT YOUR BABY?!?! (I want a chihuahua SO BADLY but my partner INCORRECTLY doesn't and it drives me insane 😂) But also great video! I also can't wait to try DC20, I really do like systems that have more interesting death saves.

[@MilesAwayGames]

@@StephaniePlaysGames HE’S SUCH A GOOD BOY, such a little adventure dog, we got so lucky! Me too… I think I’ll probably wait until there’s more of it out? But in the mean time I’m having fun mashing it into my 5e like a child playing with food!

[@StephaniePlaysGames]

@@MilesAwayGames Bahaha honestly no matter how amazing a system is I know without a fact I’m still going to tinker with it because that’s who I am at my core! 😂 And I’m so jelly, an adventure chi is literally what I want!!! I hate leaving my dog when we go do cool shit and I will absolutely consider 6lbs of tiny adorable dog essential gear when I do backpacking trips!!

[@MilesAwayGames]

@@StephaniePlaysGames it is remarkably awesome that he can fly with us and loves road trips. Our first couple months of having him he did 7 miles without a break in the Appalachians which was wild to me. Tuff pup!

[@cgollimusic]

Going down in 5e coould just be that you get the one action like you said (movement coounts as an action) and you continue to take damage. When your damage gets to negative MAX HP you die. This way healing gets a debuff but youre encoouraged to avoid being put down like in DC20 and to heal before that happens. As to the beat by 5 system you could give all damage advantage. For every 5 you beat by, you reroll the damage and pick whichever was higher overall.

[@MilesAwayGames]

Oooo, but how much damage per failed death save!? Same as the "Extra damage dice"? Or maybe your hit die!? This is another whole video...

[@cgollimusic]

@@MilesAwayGames I'd say just standard damage of the weapon/spell?

[@galaxyfoxnightsky2042]

I love seeing all these new rpg they are amazing more games for me too play is always good in my eyes Also i have been playing DC20 and apart from the system being super fun and very costumizebol wich i love But its also very easy too homebrew fer clerics corner did a really good video on hombrewing a slime/plasmoid like ancestry (race)

[@MilesAwayGames]

AGREED, more game for us is only going to be good! I do have a friend who is kind of sad that we aren't like all speaking the same language any more? But I'm having way more fun at my tables than ever before!

[@JazzyBassy]

In 5e there are 2 main power spikes, when your proficiency bonus increases, and when your tier of play increases (1-4, 5-10, 11-16, 17-20, like cantrips). All mechanics of power level like your scaling damage should be balanced based on one or the other (or both), so tier 1 (1-4): 1d6, tier 2 (5-10): 1d8, tier 3 (11-16): 1d10, tier 4 (17-20): 1d12 for each over. I'd say 3d6 is too much, you already have multiple attacks as a martial and spellcasters don't really need this with their cantrip scaling and their leveled spells.

[@MilesAwayGames]

This was way the heck over my game design knowledge. Super helpful! Thank you so much, you literally just fixed something in my Kraken week video!

[@JazzyBassy]

@@MilesAwayGames Glad to hear! Excited to hear about your Kraken week video! If you want to read more on it, you can actually gleam a lot about game design information and intent from reading the Dungeon Master's Guide, the Dungeon Master Screen, other official supplemental DM books, or Adventurer's League. A lot of mechanics and sections including improvised damage and DC's for traps, treasure tables, magic item prerequisites, and random encounter tables are mapped to the tiers of play. The discussion of Tiers of Play is found in the first chapter of of the DMG, but hopefully it'll be more easily found in the reorganized 2024 version! I'd say the other big levels aside from the tier increases are 9 and 13, where proficiency bonuses increases, and you get some really helpful features as well as Level 5 and 7 spell slots (odd leveled spells generally have a power spike), as well as level 3 and 4 spell slots for half casters. When I balance adventures for my shared campaign, I count level 9 as Tier 2.5, and level 13 as Tier 3.5.

[@Leniathan]

DC20! 💜

[@MilesAwayGames]

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[@MilesAwayGames]

What's your fave rule from dc20?

[@Leniathan]

@@MilesAwayGames Probably the Action Economy, but that's a little hard to port to 5e haha. So I'd probably go with the degrees of success - specifically regarding attack rolls: just makes those high d20 rolls feel so good!

[@MilesAwayGames]

@@Leniathan I actually just tried hard porting the action economy and it went better than you’d think!

[@Leniathan]

@@MilesAwayGames Oh? How did you go about converting Bonus Actions?

[@Xorgrim]

Death threshold options: Character level below 0 or proficiency bonus below 0

[@MilesAwayGames]

I think this is close but might be a little low for that heroic fantasy feel

[@PHJcz]

Awesome. 🙂👍🏻

[@MilesAwayGames]

Thank you! Cheers! 🍻

[@mikko272]

There something called Nimble 5e were you only roll the damage and armour is damage reduction maybe a way to do it.

[@MilesAwayGames]

@@mikko272 I just got my copy! Super excited to read it

[@FixDnD]

Kickstarter just closed I‘m excited when the PDFs reach me And maybe more content from you and your experience with DC20

[@MilesAwayGames]

YES, I actually just wrote about trying to shove the dc20 4 action/turn system into D&D on my patreon, it'll be free for everyone this saturday! it was a WILD experience and I think is gonna change my games of D&D completely

[@booksr4nerds100]

My idea for porting the "beat it by 5 rule" in 5e is to use something like the tempest cleric feature. So for every 5 you beat the DC or for every 5 a target fails a DC by 5 a player can choose to take the maximum of a damage die they would be rolling.

[@martinbowyer7906]

My group is using a a scaling by 5 damage base on a little more than 1/4 max dmg. So 1d8 scale with +3 mod is reg hit 6 dmg, +5 is 7 dmg, +10 is 9 dmg, + 15 is 11 dmg. with the last being max dmg. Guiding bolt would be 8, 13, 18, 24 dmg respectfully.

[@MilesAwayGames]

THIS IS SO COOL

[@MilesAwayGames]

@@martinbowyer7906 Love the consistent damage upgrades... hmm you got me thinkin' did I underpower my mechanic.

[@Duncster14]

Music slaps

[@MilesAwayGames]

Considering recording me editing, because most of it is me dancing.

[@PHJcz_84]

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[@shadowmancer99]

I give my players 1 action, BA, or movement until the end of their next turn...then they die. Unless healed. No Death Saves. Sucks to be zero. I HATE the no damage roll rules. NOPE.

[@MilesAwayGames]

Hahahahah, I hear you, I LOVE my heckin’ math rocks so much and gambling is so much of my personal fun?