Three things that TIG welding cannot do compared to laser welding

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@weldHAGOJIBI
@weldHAGOJIBI 9 ай бұрын
여러분 안녕하세요. TIG용접과 레이저용접은 아주 좋은 장점들을 가지고 있는 용접방법들 입니다. 그리고 많은 차이점들이 있습니다. 그러나 레이저용접은 TIG용접이 따라가기 힘든 장점들이 있습니다. 오늘은 그중에서 몇가지를 소개시켜드립니다. 정밀용접, 입열량, 용접왜곡 등등... 물론 이런 내용들이 TIG용접으로 불가능한것은 아닙니다. 그런것들도 차후에 소개시켜 드리도록 하겠습니다. 시청해주셔서 감사합니다 그리고 즐거운 한주 보내세요. 용접기 및 주변기기에 대한 내용은 제조사에 문의 하시면 더 정확한 답변을 얻으실수 있습니다. ↓↓↓↓↓↓↓ korea@nswel.com 내쇼날시스템 대표전화 051-941-9701~2
@ПакВладислав
@ПакВладислав 9 ай бұрын
레이저는 밀폐 용접을 용접할 수 없습니다. 레이저 용접은 다공성입니다.
@toonverbruggen2742
@toonverbruggen2742 9 ай бұрын
Nonsens, show a close up from thé laserweld🤷🏼‍♂️.how about RX test?? Is it even possible to make a rootpas?? Never seen it by thé " fantastic" laserweld machine 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️ 3 things you can not do by TIG 😂😂😂 my ass.
@captainwin6333
@captainwin6333 6 ай бұрын
@@ПакВладислав User error.
@gouldentexgouldentex2894
@gouldentexgouldentex2894 3 ай бұрын
Hello my friend, how much is the price please?
@carlosfernando1638
@carlosfernando1638 4 күн бұрын
Tig, muito melhor
@luboslavouchev3835
@luboslavouchev3835 9 ай бұрын
TIG is so much better :) You should also do a test to see the stronger weld and i think we know which one will win
@txbob5978
@txbob5978 9 ай бұрын
I'm new to welding so I would like to know which one you think will be a stranger weld and why?
@DT-jz3wn
@DT-jz3wn 9 ай бұрын
​@@txbob5978TIG will be stronger from greater heat penetration and larger volume of weld bead.
@DT-jz3wn
@DT-jz3wn 9 ай бұрын
​@@txbob5978TIG will be stronger from greater heat penetration and larger weld bead
@darrenm5679
@darrenm5679 9 ай бұрын
Tig will provide a greater penetration of the material providing a stronger weld
@txbob5978
@txbob5978 9 ай бұрын
​@@darrenm5679 Thanks for your reply, it's appreciated!
@KaleemLmar
@KaleemLmar 9 ай бұрын
The tig weld more beautiful 😄
@TALLPaul67X
@TALLPaul67X 4 ай бұрын
Hi All, a few things. Been around TIG welding for 50 yrs. in my dad's fab shop. Been laser welding as an engineer for 24 yrs. There are waaaaay too many people to call out by name for their bad takes, ill-informed comments, and downright lack of welds and weld strength. So, I’ll just hit some of the high points. Penetration is a function of machine size. The bigger the machine, the more penetration. So, a really big TIG, ‘might’ be able to get more penetration than a small laser. But that’s hardly the point. 1 - TIG/MIG/Stick is all based on electricity flowing thru the weld joint. Electrons do NOT like being next to each other, so as soon as they hit the metal, they try to get away from each other, while finding the path of least resistance to the ground clamp. So, the heat generated is more horizontal, as opposed to downward. Why do you think thicker plates have to be beveled when butted together? Because the penetration is just not there, so the bevel allows you to get 'deeper' into the joint to get 'artificially' full pen. Then, you have to back fill with multiple passes with filler rod to build up the joint to its original thickness. F - A - C - T. 2 - Laser light shoots straight, and when it 'keyholes' (google it), the molten metal is pushed out of the keyhole by metal vapor pressure, allowing the laser light to travel deeper into the joint to fuse it. When the laser moves away, the liquid reflows back down into the hole to maintain your original full thickness. Single pass. The IPG 2KW LightWELD will give you FULL PENETRATION of 5/16" s/s plate, WITHOUT a bevel, in ONE pass. F - A - C - T. At a faster feed rate, mind you. A - as some have mentioned here, a simple metallurgical cross section will show the laser weld fuses the joint line on the 'inside' of the joint, while TIG/MIG/Stick relies (must have) filler wire/rod to 'build up' the fillet on the 'outside' of the joint to increase strength. F - A - C - T. B - I've developed numerous laser welds in my career to replace 'electrical' welding. Never once the other way. F - A - C - T. 3 - I have seen a 1" thick piece of COPPER, laser welded, with FULL P E N E T R A T I O N lap weld, no bevel. Grated, not handheld laser, but just using this as an example that photons are much Much MUCH more efficient at welding than electrons. F - A - C - T. In fairness, the only place where TIG would have an advantage over 'hand held' laser welding, is in very tight, very complex weld joints. This is ONLY because the TIG is sooooo slow, you can make the turns easier. The laser is so fast, the limiting factor is frankly the human holding it. We need to up our game to be able to follow the joint line at those feed rates. Bolt the gun onto a cobot and the playing field is level, albeit more costly. 4 - With a 2KW LightWELD, you can weld everything from 0.003” s/s foil lap welded onto 0.003” s/s foil on the low end, all the way up to 5/16” s/s full pen on the high end. Find me ANY electrical welder that can cover that range. … I’ll wait. 5 - Some say TIG looks better. Probably because that is what the entire welding community is use to looking at. “Row of dimes” my dad would always say. For all you TIG guys out there, guess what, we can set the laser to ‘pulse mode’ and get “rows of dimes” as well. After market exhaust guys use the LightWELD in this mode to simulate/replicate TIG. 6 - Again, people here are saying because the laser has a much smaller heat affected zone (HAZ), that there is “no way” it is a strong as TIG. By that logic, gas welding should be the strongest, right? SMH. The size of the HAZ has essentially ZERO to do with strength. The strength only comes from how much fusion there is at the joint line. Just because you covered the entire flat faces of the 2 boards butted together, doesn’t mean their joint is strong. If you only put glue ON THE ACTUAL EDGES, it will be stronger. Refer to answer 2A. That’s enough for now. If ANYONE has ANY dissenting opinion, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, POST THEM!!! I’D LOVE TO READ THEM. 100.0% of EVERYTHING I said here is 100.0% F - A - C - T ! ! !
@usopenplayer
@usopenplayer 2 ай бұрын
All good information, but the Heat Affected some absolutely does affect strength in many metals. Larger heat affected zone makes it WEAKER and more brittle, unless you perform a post weld heat treatment.
@stuartgray5877
@stuartgray5877 Ай бұрын
Now imagine a tesla-bot level of articulation with a laser welder end effector?
@pmrs73
@pmrs73 9 ай бұрын
Obrigado!
@maratzanzakov1750
@maratzanzakov1750 9 ай бұрын
У лазерной сварки свои преимущества она хороша для тонкостенных металлов, а также в некоторых узких местах где не желателен перегрев, это мое6мнение. Автору спасибо за демонстрацию!
@MikeAbdulla
@MikeAbdulla 9 ай бұрын
1) пистолет большой и в некоторых местах с ним не подлезть в отличие от гибкой горелки tig. 2) лазер требует 2-х кратного роста расхода газа от 20л. 3) лазер требует степень очистки шесть девяток 69 минимум, а tig три девятки 99,9%. Не везде могут добитсья нужной чистоты, а разница в цене за такой газ 4-6раз
@DT-jz3wn
@DT-jz3wn 9 ай бұрын
​@@MikeAbdullaexceptional reply. This is excellent information that few would know. Gas purity is a major factor
@kiberhim1
@kiberhim1 9 ай бұрын
просто для таких задач проще использовать полуавтомат.@@MikeAbdulla
@ДаниилЯкимов-ш4б
@ДаниилЯкимов-ш4б 24 күн бұрын
Для этого есть импульс лазер гавно
@bobellisp5
@bobellisp5 9 ай бұрын
tigs looks better
@Walker7745
@Walker7745 9 ай бұрын
To be more precise, it is more reliable.
@captainwin6333
@captainwin6333 6 ай бұрын
That's the least important aspect. Well done.
@rdj2695
@rdj2695 4 ай бұрын
I think this boils down to cost. You can get a high end tig welder for 3-6k. But the bare minimum on a laser welder will be 10k+. I imagine this comparison is being done with a good tig but a bad laser.
@trinitymaker5833
@trinitymaker5833 4 күн бұрын
Agree 1000%
@sucre9995
@sucre9995 9 ай бұрын
Best welding song ever 🤗🧑‍🏭🔊
@bengriffin4027
@bengriffin4027 9 ай бұрын
Not only can the laser run a cold bead, but the laser weld also incorporates the feature of quick disassembly...just strike it with a hammer! Neat!
@captainwin6333
@captainwin6333 6 ай бұрын
Not true.
@terrymiller4176
@terrymiller4176 4 ай бұрын
Don't know if that's true but it's funny
@chrislu9574
@chrislu9574 Ай бұрын
​@@captainwin6333just look at the bottom, the base metal color is not changed a bit.
@gyrotech777
@gyrotech777 9 ай бұрын
The Tig weld could have been done with pulse or lower amps if you wanted it smaller. Would take a little longer. I bet the Tig weld has more strength
@scottcarr3264
@scottcarr3264 8 ай бұрын
I would Absolutely Agree with the Strength answer. The laser was much smaller and less heat so therefore it would not be as strong.
@FredBlair-bk4cf
@FredBlair-bk4cf 3 ай бұрын
Watch and learn stop being negative this guy is great instructor
@drunkmaster3062
@drunkmaster3062 9 ай бұрын
That'd be good to make rupture test to see which one is stronger.
@alexeypogidaev8709
@alexeypogidaev8709 9 ай бұрын
Думаю тиг лучше справится🎉
@niklysakov5443
@niklysakov5443 9 ай бұрын
Думается мне что у обоих разрыв будет рядом со швом
@jvmiller1995
@jvmiller1995 8 ай бұрын
No need to test. It is night and day what weld is crap.. Great for light duty quik projects. But not worth the cost and certainly not as strong as a tig. But I bet they will one day get there
@truthfacts5438
@truthfacts5438 9 ай бұрын
Laser welders do have their purpose in industry, high repetition for aluminum or light thin gauge metals and with an operator that's fairly new to welding; in that setting yes, a laser welder will appear more user friendly, but don't get me started on the superiority of a tig welder compared to a laser welder, it's simply as a superior product. You can wield thicker metals and you can do incredible different designs and colorations with the weld that you can never do with a laser welder, it is truly an master artisan's tool The laser welder can simply not compare, every advantage that 1 would think and laser welder has there is a tig unit out there that can do it better...
@tinkeringinthailand8147
@tinkeringinthailand8147 9 ай бұрын
It's always a pleasure to watch the master at work. Thank you teacher 마스터가 일하는 모습을 지켜보는 것은 언제나 즐거운 일입니다. 선생님 감사합니다
@grootxtree
@grootxtree 9 ай бұрын
А теперь попробуй ударить молотком по кружочку. Лазерная сварка легко оторвется.
@ильяшалагуров
@ильяшалагуров 9 ай бұрын
Согласен. Шов поверхностный без глубокого провара поэтому и нет цветов побежалости. И плашку почти не повело. Можно на ТИГ меньше ток, тоньше присадочную проволоку и результаты будут схожи, а не газовый колокол играл роль как я понял из жестикуляции пальцами типа на лазере струя аргона узкая и интенсивнее не только защита но и охлаждение, а на аргоновой горелке защитный газовый колокол. Рекламное проталкивание лазерной сварки. Пока по прочности и качеству шва против ТИГ всё остальное или лепка, а не сварка или декоративные швы для шкатулок но не подводных лодок и самолётов.
@stalkeryraal
@stalkeryraal 9 ай бұрын
Ни фига подобного, смотрел тест лазерных сварочных швов выдерживают те-же нагрузки что и у тиг сварки одинаково, а цветов побежалости меньше так как у лазерной сварки температурное воздействие лазера идёт не как у дуги а ровно по катеду сварнрго шва, единственный минус который я в этом вижу так это через чур быстрое остывание шва что даёт большее напряжение металла.
@grootxtree
@grootxtree 9 ай бұрын
@@stalkeryraal ты смотрел, а я делал.
@ильяшалагуров
@ильяшалагуров 9 ай бұрын
Спор беспредметный. Работал на Адмиралтейских верфях в СПБ. Подводная лодка не ночной горшок. Для серьёзной судостроительной корпорации хороший аппарат лазерной сварки по деньгам не проблема. Ни в судосборочном цехе ни в механическом производстве нет. Уверен что высокая производительность это плюс и уверен что инженерно-техническая служба заказывала сваривание деталей подводной лодки для сравнительных характеристик, но наши верфи почему-то не купили цацку для сваривания шкатулок и декоративных швов. На верфи есть металообрабатывающие станки с числовым программным управлением, есть плазморезы, есть станки лазерной резки. В конце-концов есть газонаполненная камера в которой сварщики в скафандрах сваривают крупные детали в среде аргона. Так что лазер пока в зародыше. Возможно со временем он достигнет качества ТИГ, а пока...@@stalkeryraal
@Mudragel
@Mudragel 9 ай бұрын
Если появляется желание проверить прочность шва ударом молотка, лучше ударь им себя по башке. Толку больше будет.
@stevemackelprang8472
@stevemackelprang8472 9 ай бұрын
a new and useful welding technology, it certainly has it's place
@sandersonbastosdeholanda7606
@sandersonbastosdeholanda7606 8 ай бұрын
I think that this comparison has not yet been able to clarify the superiority between the TIG and Laser processes! The comparison in welding at the 90º joining corners, the TIG addition process actually left the bead coarser with exaggerated penetration but this depends on the skill and operator and also adjustment of the equipment, which can leave the result much better than in the video! Remembering that in TIG there are other welding techniques such as smelting (without the addition rod) where you can join thin, flat sheets with an excellent finish! TIG is skill, craftsman and creativity, LASER is industry, robots, repetition, high volume and cutting spending on inputs.
@yuriy82-69
@yuriy82-69 9 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks. Could you please cut both welds with angular grinder at 90 degrees, sandpaper a bit and then etch with standard acc acidic electrolyte to show weld zones relative depth and macrostructure?
@johnmassingham5109
@johnmassingham5109 9 ай бұрын
Interesting video but I wont be selling my tig any time soon. As others have pointed out the tig looks more neat and stronger. I am sure if the joint was made by a tig with the power too low there would be less distortion and of course penetration and strength like the laser. It would have been nice to hear some narration, explaining what power setting were used etc instead of the very irritating "music"
@Vladimir_Kotov
@Vladimir_Kotov 9 ай бұрын
Этот ролик рекламный с нарушением режима работы с tig. У tig сваренный шов красивее и надёжнее. Деформация пошла по причине завышенного тока. Вторая причина - не верно выбран режим сварки. При пульсирующем этого не произошло бы.
@Hrshobvf5
@Hrshobvf5 9 ай бұрын
Привет Кимчи🫱🏻‍🫲🏼. Всё равно мне кажется TIG лучше проплавляет и сплавляет детали чем лазер. А как ты думаешь ?
@ильяшалагуров
@ильяшалагуров 9 ай бұрын
Шов поверхностный без глубокого провара поэтому и нет цветов побежалости. И плашку почти не повело. Можно на ТИГ меньше ток, тоньше присадочную проволоку и результаты будут схожи, а не газовый колокол играл роль как я понял из жестикуляции пальцами типа на лазере струя аргона узкая и интенсивнее не только защита но и охлаждение, а на аргоновой горелке защитный газовый колокол. Рекламное проталкивание лазерной сварки. Пока по прочности и качеству шва против ТИГ всё остальное или лепка, а не сварка или декоративные швы для шкатулок но не подводных лодок и самолётов.
@kiberhim1
@kiberhim1 9 ай бұрын
@@ильяшалагуров Отдельный респект, за РЕКЛАМНЫЙ характер видео. И только. Полезностей контент не несет.
@Васян-й5ы
@Васян-й5ы 6 ай бұрын
Ошибаешься - ! Понимающему после просмотра всё ясно какая сварка лучше ! И где какая сварка лучше будет подходить .
@Мирвдеталях-с6о
@Мирвдеталях-с6о 9 ай бұрын
Отличное видео! Лазерная сварка это будущее, но эти аппараты у нас в России ещё очень дорогие, поэтому пока TIG, но я думаю у каждого вида сварки будет своя специфика.
@ЕвгенийМиронец-ф9ъ
@ЕвгенийМиронец-ф9ъ 9 ай бұрын
Я думаю... Будущее... Ты ей варил, чтобы думать об этом и рассуждать о будущем? А вот те по дурости прикупил эту вундервафель за много миллионов что то оптимизм порастеряли. Что я могу сказать, про то что здесь показали? Заточка электрода в иглу - для широкого распределения тепла дуги. Если сравнивать тиг с конкретной настройкой и лазер с конкретной настройкой, то показать можно что угодно. Впрочем что я тут распинаюсь большинство сварщиков даже уверены, что они точат в иглу вольфрам для концентрированной дуги...
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 9 ай бұрын
tig is walking all over the laser , maybe the settings are off ,,, but I would take the tig every time on this job.
@tonta182
@tonta182 9 ай бұрын
I have both laser and tig welders at my shop and from a money making perspective the laser wins every time for these applications. we did almost a similiar work but welding aluminium mounting brackets and when it comes to welding 2000pcs the time saved and no warping at all welding 1mm thick aluminium to an 12mm threaded pipe the Tig stod no chance in any regard. Time is money and if you are quicker then the competition and use the right method for the work you stay on top We love our laser welder since we bought it 2 years ago but we still use the Tig alot and the mig/mag mostly, we got alot of laser welding work from other welding companies that is not willing or afraid of the investment.
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 9 ай бұрын
@@tonta182 totally agree ,,, but in this case it was one of each piece , if I was the customer I would not have accepted the laser welded part , look poor quality.
@tonta182
@tonta182 9 ай бұрын
You should try out one if you can, it's great fun! i was sceptical at first since there is little to no data about how much the weld can hold etc but i got a hunch that it could help welding thin material very fast and it has really helped out alot. We have been test teared welded sheets and also pressed in the press brake and it holds even though it very thin and small joints. Only drawbacks is that it can't handle bigger gaps at all and the gun + cables are very heavy for long time operations @@tomthompson7400
@tiborjanka5348
@tiborjanka5348 9 ай бұрын
Kivàncsi lennék,a Tig pisztolyra felszerelt huzal adagolóval való hegesztésre,a hőbevitel szempontjàból.
@gandolph3
@gandolph3 9 ай бұрын
My two cents … think laser is more controlable arc than tig. This laser bead could be better example. Laser is less heat imput into unnecessary spot compare to wide arc of tig. I see in future laser welding will have more uses and adaptations.
@OLEG-o8b
@OLEG-o8b 9 ай бұрын
Лазерная сварка уже давно. Применяется в автомобильной, авто и космической технике.... Выглядит круто, но это чисто для объёма
@michaelallen1432
@michaelallen1432 9 ай бұрын
I'm curious how the weld penetration is on the laser weld. Id like to see one cut in half.
@pmrs73
@pmrs73 9 ай бұрын
Love your videos! Keep up helping welders around the world! Big hugh
@bigcarl6655
@bigcarl6655 2 ай бұрын
very nice comparing, thanks you 👌👌
@plotter690
@plotter690 8 ай бұрын
Всё понятно, лазер - чисто для декоративного применения. Если эту шайбу с трубой уронить, то вообще нафиг развалится.
@leninnavarrete2502
@leninnavarrete2502 2 ай бұрын
❤👍😲 Wooooowww... Thanks brother 💪👀
@wingedalado
@wingedalado 26 күн бұрын
TIG welding, when performed correctly, produces high-quality joints with adequate penetration and excellent resistance to external forces. It is not "unbreakable" in the absolute sense, but it is one of the most reliable and strongest welding techniques. However, its effectiveness depends on the proper execution of the process, the correct selection of parameters and materials, and the control of factors such as temperature and travel speed. Like any welding process, the final quality depends on the skill of the welder and attention to detail during the fabrication process.
@qhd4504
@qhd4504 Ай бұрын
설명 멋져요 👍 파이팅 입니다
@blue_white1759
@blue_white1759 2 ай бұрын
Laser welding is excellent for beginner. Smart and professional...
@터보김종국
@터보김종국 9 ай бұрын
먼저 하구집이님에 실력에 찬사를 보냅니다 저도98년도 부터 본격적으로 욕 먹어 가면서 배운 사람 이지만 알고리즘 으로 하구집이님 영상을 보면 일하다보면 시간이 없어도 새로운 기술을 더 연습해야 겠다는 마음이 듭니다 항상 건강하시고 눈건강 관절 건강 잘 챙기시고 좋은 영상 부탁합니다 저도 회사 레이저 용접기 이제부터 연습좀 해야겠습니다 올해도 건승 하십시요~^^
@viorsa8200
@viorsa8200 9 ай бұрын
Excelente tutorial maestro, cómo siempre buenas comparativas, gracias por compartir tanta información y conocimientos, un saludo cordial y por supuesto un merecido like desde Narón (Galicia)👍🤓😜
@orest6959
@orest6959 9 ай бұрын
Hello! Thank you for your videos! They are very interesting and useful. But I have a question: can such laser beads pass ultrasound test?
@YOUZERSIF.
@YOUZERSIF. 9 ай бұрын
الأرغون لا يُعلى عليه أبداً❤❤
@smellslikeupdog80
@smellslikeupdog80 9 ай бұрын
love you content, very cool to see; and your music background is accessible no matter where we watch from. Greetings from another side of earth rock friend :)
@puntoyfinal2553
@puntoyfinal2553 9 ай бұрын
El tig esta mejor que el láser en este caso . Mas suavizados los bordes mas superficie soldada con lo que da mas calidad mecánica y estanqueidad a las uniones. Tal vez al laser le faltó un hilo de aporte mas grueso y mas potencia para fundir hilo con piezas. La soldadura con laser no se extiende como con la llama tig. Yo no creo que la soldadura laser no sea buena lo que sucede es que es adecuada para soldadura de precisión robotizada pero tal vez no es adecuada para soldadura manual . En cambio la tig es muy adecuada tanto para soldadura manual como automatizada pero para soldaduras de precision y microsoldaduras robotizadas el tig no es adecuado y el laser si. Cada sistema es adecuado para segun que usos.
@andrewjschutz
@andrewjschutz 9 ай бұрын
Turn the heat wayy down on your tig. It’s not always going to look burnt. Laser looks fine, but I’ve have to see it time tested, X-rays etc
@peterkeller9030
@peterkeller9030 9 ай бұрын
I would also like to see some test results. The laser weldment surface looks very inconsistent and uneven.
@orest6959
@orest6959 9 ай бұрын
It interesting also about ultrasound tests
@justabeardedguythatisahero9848
@justabeardedguythatisahero9848 9 ай бұрын
@@peterkeller9030 bruh all automotive and modern welding techniques are using laser, we just need kids to give opinions
@raulcastrobua
@raulcastrobua 9 ай бұрын
Lo del calor que aplica la Tig a la pienza inferior es relativo pues la velocidad de fusión para mi criterio es lenta. Yo pondría mas corriente y mas velocidad
@tonisiqueira9543
@tonisiqueira9543 9 ай бұрын
Sim mestre notei que a soldagem TG nessa demonstração tem mais consistência de material e penetração e na placa giratória rende igual a solda laiser deixando assim uma das provas de que a TG ainda é uma das soldagem mais aprovada para o teste não destrutivo obrigado pela apresentação 🇧🇷🙏
@starter-brain
@starter-brain 9 ай бұрын
TIG 👍👍👍👍
@catranger01
@catranger01 9 ай бұрын
What an absolutely useless comparison comparing a crappy looking marginal penetration laser weld to a beautiful looking heavy penetration tig weld that could have used greater gas flow and argon with 2-1/2 to 5% hydrogen mixture.
@kornshadow097
@kornshadow097 9 ай бұрын
couldnt the weld heat be reduced with lower amperage and the width of the weld area be shrunk by grinding less on the electrode? You seem to grind a long area of the electrode and the distance from the piece would amplify this. I'm still new though, but I've noticed these things when I practice.
@leospitz6541
@leospitz6541 9 ай бұрын
show m e the depth of fusion for both. different methods for different applications.
@dariomongui8602
@dariomongui8602 9 ай бұрын
Para comparar estos dos procedimientos ,,,ese TIG ,es con Argo'n,,, ??? O ,,, que otro gas inerte se puede usar,???? Que diferencias se presentan en la relación " costo-beneficio" ??? Nosotro trabajamos en campo ( a la intemperie) y usamos Argo'n,,, tedriamos una opción mejor????
@yurykorol8715
@yurykorol8715 9 ай бұрын
Too much TIG current. Now break it, see who's tougher.
@agesschess
@agesschess 4 ай бұрын
The biggest problem with welding is generally the processing cost of deformation after heating, So which method to use is worth studying during the manufacturing process.
@hansruiter-jo4ke
@hansruiter-jo4ke 9 ай бұрын
I do prefer the tig weld.
@bluesjeon
@bluesjeon 4 ай бұрын
I don't know anything about welding. But as far as I know, laser welding is good for welding the thinnest metal plates, tig welding is good for the next thinner metals, and mig or flaw welding is good for welding slightly thicker metals. 저는 용접에 대해 아무것도 모르는사람입니다. 하지만 제가 알기로는 가장 얇은 금속판 용접할때는 레이저용접이 적합하고 그다음 얇은 금속에는 tig 용접이 적합하고 그다음 조금더 두꺼운거 용접할때는 mig 나 flaw 용접이 좋다고 하더군요.
@teymuraxmedov5086
@teymuraxmedov5086 9 ай бұрын
За меня уже все сказали.млгу добавить что с таким аперажом на TIG нужно было взять присадку потоньше и увеличеть скорость вращения трубы. Качество шва от этого не ухудшелось, а вот тепловложение уменьшилось. Да а лазерную сварку поднатройте немного шев какойто кругловатый как у MİG-MAG
@Bruh-ki2cm
@Bruh-ki2cm 9 ай бұрын
Ok so Im about to start tig in school. My 3 months of trade school only has a week of tig and I really want to get a cert for it. Any tips? I so far already have 5 certs for stick and 6 for mig. Do you think its possible I can grab at least 1-2 certs for tig with a week of training or is it impossible to learn tig that quickly? Also thanks so much for your vids, hopefully it'll helps me when i start tig. ❤
@chitochu
@chitochu 9 ай бұрын
Comprate una tig pequeña y práctica en tu casa (es tan limpia que puedes hacerlo en el salón) tendrás la máquina y aprenderás más que en cualquier curso sacadineros
@IbrahimSamb-od3wn
@IbrahimSamb-od3wn Ай бұрын
TiG 😍❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@Dima-i2t1i
@Dima-i2t1i 9 ай бұрын
Tig однозначно лучше варит и проваривают метал, а Лазер мало того, что варит узким швом, так ещё и маленький провар🙆🤦 А теперь попробуйте с этой лазерной горелкой залезть туда, где варит Tig, уверен, что не залезет, ему подвластны только прямые участки и держать всю смену эту бандуру - рука отвалится через час. Да и цена такого аппарата заоблачная - хрен когда окупишь, а скорости по сравнению с Tig одинаковые. У Лазера - ну ни одного плюса я не нашёл🤷
@АлександрПостнов-з7с
@АлександрПостнов-з7с 9 ай бұрын
Ларезная сварка выигрывает в скорости и теплоотдачи безусловно а по визульному контролю проигрывает. TIG всегда будет выигрывать по визуальнлму контролю. Изходя из этого и применяеть нужно ту или иную сварку. Автору отдельное спосибо за качественный контент.
@максимтрофимов-у9х
@максимтрофимов-у9х 9 ай бұрын
Да тиг греет сильнее. Но и сварочный шов явно лучше лазера.. а если нужно, резко сменить угол сварки, то лазер вообще в пролёте...
@adrianorocchettl4750
@adrianorocchettl4750 9 ай бұрын
Migliore la saldatura TIG.OK.
@michaelwillis6520
@michaelwillis6520 9 ай бұрын
I think what he's trying to say is that the tig weld has better penitration ?
@rolandoconchambay7376
@rolandoconchambay7376 3 ай бұрын
La verdad me quedo con el proceso todo , me pueden indicar se puedo soldar lamina de 1/32 de acero inoxidable
@jorgepaiba1974
@jorgepaiba1974 9 ай бұрын
Creo que la soldadura laser le falto mas amperaje se ve cruda deberia ser mejor menos tiempo y menos temperatura de los materiales
@anax22
@anax22 9 ай бұрын
as someone who have seen and tried lasers welding first hand it is unlikely "cold welding" a useless piece of shit, but actually have a very good application in thin sheet metal welding, i would never use it for a pipe line or machinery but i would definitely use it in places where heat input is critical (welding a sandwich panel with0.6mm steel sheet and a fiber glass insolation) or lining a clean room with,0.9mm stainless steel sheets so it has a place but until the unit cost comes down to 300$ i don't see any need to make this investment. also an oxyacet. torch is probably ok for the same sheet metal jobs and it cost pennies to run
@leensteed7861
@leensteed7861 3 ай бұрын
The laser weld looked a bit cold to me. Maybe crank it up a bit or spin the part slower?
@tomdavies388
@tomdavies388 6 ай бұрын
As neat as the tig weld looked I think a much smaller heat input could have been achieved using thinner wire, a slight weave weave with the torch, faster travel speed and about 30 more amps. They come out shiny silver colour.
@AnamileidyMorilloMolina
@AnamileidyMorilloMolina 9 ай бұрын
La soldadura TIG es mejor que la láser en muchas cosas sin duda
@extampsoldatecnica
@extampsoldatecnica 8 ай бұрын
Tig é superior ..... excelente!!!!
@OLEG-o8b
@OLEG-o8b 9 ай бұрын
Как я понял, лазерная сварка - это преимущественно провар и меньшие деформации и расход сварочных материалов, а при аргонодуговой все наоборот?...
@proff110488
@proff110488 9 ай бұрын
Полуавтомат с углекислотой вам в помощь....
@patricksalmon3494
@patricksalmon3494 9 ай бұрын
Merci
@scottcarr3264
@scottcarr3264 8 ай бұрын
If you are welding thin materials only, then laser may be the way to go, if you want stronger welds and able to do any thickness you want then Tig would be the Choice. You make the decision.
@ГеоргийЖуков-л3ш
@ГеоргийЖуков-л3ш 9 ай бұрын
Видно что проплавление у АргД лучше, чем у лазерной сварки и шов красивее
@yunkers13
@yunkers13 3 ай бұрын
Accuracy, nice welding seam etc. all about TIG. Tig is better
@MGrehov
@MGrehov 9 ай бұрын
Ну допустим. Но и проплав у ТИГа лучше. Прогрев металла. Да, повело... но такое будет так или иначе. Но теперь бы разрезать и посмотреть шов. И испытать образцы на отрыв и смещение - предельные нагрузки.
@m2mi601
@m2mi601 9 ай бұрын
как же радует этот язык немых в рукавицах. Непонятно ни тому, кто говорит руками, ни тому кто смотрит. Зато ветер производится от размахивания.
@НиколайГордиенко-ж9ы
@НиколайГордиенко-ж9ы 8 ай бұрын
Просто область их применения разная. Так же можно сказать, что лазерная сварка ещё больше не может сделать того, что может сделать TIG.😅😅😅
@Алексей-з3ъ7ш
@Алексей-з3ъ7ш 9 ай бұрын
Мне даже кажется что полуавтомат крепче сватит!) Чем лазер.
@ЕвгенийВодневский-у6ы
@ЕвгенийВодневский-у6ы 9 ай бұрын
По видео очевидно что лазерная сварка даже не сварила метал. А тиг действительно соединил детали надёжно. Всем уже давно известно что лазер только для тонко листового металла пригоден. Там где не нужна лишняя температура, дабы не повело изделие
@sergiohernandezcastillo4375
@sergiohernandezcastillo4375 9 ай бұрын
Se ve interesante si pueden aplicar la soldadura en moldes de inyección de plástico un ejemplo se podrá
@dariomongui8602
@dariomongui8602 9 ай бұрын
Ese procedimiento como es aplicable en trabajos de campo,,,,??? Lo veo ideal para labores de taller especializado o laboratorio,,, pero es una planta de alimentos o una refinería de petróleo
@millw1
@millw1 29 күн бұрын
The TIG is the better weld by a mile! The gap shows that the tig had way more metal in the weld and penitrated deeper too
@millw1
@millw1 4 ай бұрын
How much penitration can you possibly get with light??? I bet TIG is way stronger!
@mazzikoba6348
@mazzikoba6348 8 ай бұрын
용접강도는 비슷합니다 변색이랑 변형이 적다는 것이 입열량이 적다는 뜻입니다. 입열량을 최대한 줄여야 좋은 점이 많습니다
@ianmcgrail6482
@ianmcgrail6482 8 ай бұрын
The laser has undercut and also is a small weld compared to the TIG and i have been a welder all my life and welded correctly tig welding is clean and not so lumpy as the weld with the laser
@staceyumphress7299
@staceyumphress7299 9 ай бұрын
Just turn tig temp down and use smaller wire. He must sell laser welders.
@백대영-w5n
@백대영-w5n 9 ай бұрын
알루미늄 용접 레이져도 해주세요
@maciejtarasienko9509
@maciejtarasienko9509 8 ай бұрын
Maybe you have to low power for laser welding. It should Look better.
@johnnytv7620
@johnnytv7620 4 ай бұрын
I saw nothing that would prove Tig welding is less efficient in its respective category than laser welding other than time efficiency. Tig will always be a better more detail oriented process, and if anything, Tig welding will become more and more refined as time goes on because of its massive versatility, unlike laser welding which has yet to be used in mass by fabrication and manufacturing industries. The only thing I can think about that laser welding would be reliable for is mass production welding on cars, but even then, laser welding is tapping into an industry it already owned. You. Simply cannot compare these processes because they are for so many different sub industries. The only downside for laser welding is they have to contend with Tig welding in industries that are already dominated by Tig welding.
@barrycoe3530
@barrycoe3530 9 ай бұрын
Tig every time for me, weld is much neater and appears to be stronger, however will need polishing. Lazer is far quicker and requires no further work, for high volume work ware strenth and appearance of weld is not that important would probably be the way forward.
@kempsonlaser
@kempsonlaser 8 ай бұрын
Laser welding currently has the smallest amount of deformation among all welding processes
@KarpovVM
@KarpovVM 9 ай бұрын
Сечение лазерного шва не соразмерно толщинам. Надо было 1.5 мм толщину брать - тогда бы лазер победил. Особенно по деформациям.
@АлександрБ-е4ш
@АлександрБ-е4ш 8 ай бұрын
Лазер очень напоминает сварку полуавтоматом. Только без искр 😂
@pirulito99
@pirulito99 29 күн бұрын
Mirando por fuera no sirve de nada, para saber cual quedó mejor habría que hacer una prueba de resistencia o rayos x.
@darrenm5679
@darrenm5679 9 ай бұрын
Id like to see a strength test on both pieces pretty sure the tig piece will come out on top
@antennaist
@antennaist 7 ай бұрын
How did that filler rod feed so steady and consistant during the TIG process ? Iv'e burned many a Tilman glove with my left hand.
@albertojansen-wo9ym
@albertojansen-wo9ym 2 ай бұрын
First of all you need to warm the aluminum before you weld for penetration
@user-li8oq3om9o
@user-li8oq3om9o 3 ай бұрын
Tig is stronger. Make a test to detach both parts
@sergermakov5700
@sergermakov5700 19 күн бұрын
Ok. Und jetzt muss man dem Läser auch ein Stab dazugeben. Dem entsprechend Lichtstarke 2x mehr. Wozu? Um beide Ferfahren gleich wären. Und dann sehen wir, was kommt. Bis dann sieht das ganze wie eine Werbung aus.
@grzegorzkoslacz3859
@grzegorzkoslacz3859 9 ай бұрын
With laser you don't have to learn welding for 5 years to do it properly...
@ПакВладислав
@ПакВладислав 9 ай бұрын
The laser cannot weld airtight welds. The laser weld is porous. so you will have to study for five years.
@ferrumonn
@ferrumonn 9 ай бұрын
Если так утянуло значит площадь сварки больше и катет аргоном выше, а значит крепче, ещë температура выше а лазер распыляет.
@angelanticorrupcion
@angelanticorrupcion 3 ай бұрын
En esta comparativa, mas me gusta la tig.
@asasasasas3023
@asasasasas3023 8 ай бұрын
В первом случае замок гавно, во втором студент. Для комнатных спецов попробуй самодельные электроды на напорной оцинковке. с самодельного сварочника с напрягло от "фрегата".. Привет из СССР. Супер сварщик бешеного разряда Андрей. Тост. Ша Я молчу!
@Allotropus
@Allotropus 11 күн бұрын
Come on, if you weldet TIG upwards the weld would look much more better with less tarnish colors. I also would interestet the differences in the metallurgy between this 2 procedures. The laser weld is full of inclusions.
@weldyboy-R-
@weldyboy-R- 9 ай бұрын
You don't have the wire feed on the laser set to match the peripheral speed of rotation, that's why you're putting the laser to shame. It requires more power, a stronger wire and a feed at the material that is the same as the feed of the wire.
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