Threnody: The World of the Shades

[@bennettjones459]

Hey guys, Jasonian here, and today, we'll be going to Hell!

[@linku1115]

Wouldn’t that be Braize seeing as it is literally hell in most mythology on Roshar? So wouldn’t it be the Cosmere planet in the with the best claim to the title of Hell?

[@eusociality]

threnody, the world SO dangerous that some of its inhabitants chose the canticle lifestyle over dealing with the shades

[@jasonioan]

Facts. That says SOOOOOO much.

[@jessehughes8274]

Fr, in what world is Canticle the better option than anything😂

[@eusociality]

@@jessehughes8274 threnody, apparently!

[@AetheriusSolvanus]

Poor Jeffrey-Jeffrey and Adolnasium-Will-Remember-Our-Plight-Eventually

[@Kris_not_Chris]

Threnody is the perfect Cosmere topic for Halloween

[@parkermm]

Loving the film location once again 😄

[@mrjuderaw87]

My first comment on your videos marked the beginning of my adventure into the cosmere. I had read Elantris years ago and Mistborn years ago but they never pulled me in. These creative videos made me so interested i have since read Dragonsteel prime (that was the first video i saw of yours) WoK WoR Edgedancer and now im on Oathbringer. I actually like informative spoilers because it makes me even more interested in the world and how people navigate it in the wider bookverse. This channel is like catnip

[@jasonioan]

Thank you for the comment! I am so enormously glad my videos were able to get you back into the Cosmere. I’m truly honored by your comment. Thank you!

[@longshot9757]

"Hell is a forest" such a metal quote.

[@Imperial_Squid]

I was legit waiting for the shades eyes to turn red and that would be your cue to run out of frame and finish the video the entire last minute lol

[@smokedmessias1607]

This channel is criminally underappreciated. You can feel the love and attention in every one of these. Not only do we get a lot of deep lore, but the theatrical elements really brings it to life. I appreciate you a ton, bro.

[@jacobswift]

Babe wake up, jasonionianoianon posted

[@casthelion416]

The Halloween themed cosmere video we have all been waiting for. An other master work my fellow world hopper

[@pumpkin2477]

Woah, I loved this video. I have never seen a Cosmere video in this kind of style, extremely well made!

[@jasonioan]

Thank you! If you liked this video, you should check out some of my others! I’m particularly proud of the invested weapons video

[@nwnate659]

Keeping your back turned on the shades is insane. Imagine if one casually drifted through you! Great vid as always. Threnody is such a cool topic, so it’s cool to see a dedicated video for it

[@prepwithgabi]

Hearing you say Saudade warmed my heart ♥️

[@michaeleggimann106]

I feel like I understated how awesome your channel is. I mean truly the coolest cosmere channel. Stay up man I appreciate the effort and creativity. Presentations seem to be getting more solid. You’re the best bro thanks

[@bananacelesti1926]

as a brazilian, the saudade part catch me off guard. Thank you for the kinds words about a word in our leanguage S2 love your videos

[@jasonioan]

You’re welcome and thank you for watching! Saudade is such a beautiful concept. Eu amo a língua portuguesa, e amo Brazil. Quero voltar lá um dia.

[@alexandervandeputte6324]

This video is so well produced, you are criminally underrated! Keep it up! (Liked and subbed btw)

[@jasonioan]

Yippee! I’m glad you found me and welcome!

[@platonist21]

I LOVE the work you put into the location and atmosphere of your videos. Seriously adds so much I get so excited everytime you post :) tytyty

[@lumiwz]

the fact that a direct translation for 'saudade' doesn't exist in English is an emotional loss for the language.

[@jasonioan]

Agreed. It’s such an interesting and distinct feeling.

[@Aussieshepherdowner]

@@jasonioanfrom your description, it seems to be a combination of nostalgia and somber?

[@jasonhammer]

@@Aussieshepherdownerwith a healthy dose of longing and acceptance thrown in there. Remembering fondly with melancholy maybe?

[@prepwithgabi]

We use it in many contexts, such as missing someone who is away or passed deeply. It can also be used in the context of nostalgia or longing. It’s a very powerful cultural word. ♥️

[@josephknowles7721]

My day just got way better! Thx for the amazing content once more!

[@jasonioan]

Thank you for watching!!!

[@morsumbra9692]

Dig all the set n prop touches dude. Nice commitment!

[@jasonioan]

Thank you! It was a fun process!

[@bogregz]

It's clear you're passionate and you put in effort! Really liked the video, you're very concise and present the subject well. The music was distracting at times but your voice was still clearly intelligible over it so I didn't mind. Sorry if you don't want criticism. I wish you well and I hope you succeed :)

[@jasonioan]

It's all good. That was more feedback than criticism, so thank you. The audio was mixed WAY Better on this one than the fabrial video, so at least I'm improving. :) Thank you for your comment and im glad you liked the video.

[@michaelvickery7390]

Impressive content. Keep it up. Subscribers are going to be coming your way with this level of detail and creativity

[@jasonioan]

Hope so!

[@apatheticwithnoa]

Thank you for these videos man, it was the highlight of my day to discover this channel

[@jasonioan]

Glad you like them! I'm also glad you found me!

[@Ando3119]

Thanks for the great videos that you produce, they are amazing!! Hope I can see you next month at Nexus!

[@celestialcass]

Great video, I adore just how morose and sorrowful Threnody is with the constant danger. Of course no one wants to visit on holiday! I'm so excited to learn more and discover how Threnodites will be involved in more of the Cosmere, reading the Secret History was so fun because of how frightened the Ire were of possible Threnodites.

[@thehoogard]

Thanks for clearly pointing out the spoilery sections. Haven't read the sunlit man yet (waiting to get hold of it in pocket version here. Shouldn't be too long I hope).

[@jasonioan]

No worries! I try my best to keep story spoilers down to a minimum (I'm not perfect mind you, but I try). I hope you get to it soon. It is a wild and crazy cosmere connected ride.

[@thehoogard]

@@jasonioan Looking forward to it. Just got my hands on Yumi and the nightmare painter so got my Sanderson fix for now :)

[@EatitAlive]

Awesome location and shades you made! Great video you never disappoint

[@jasonioan]

Thank you!

[@custardpanda6209]

So creative! I love the filming location and graphics, keep up the good work!

[@SwankyDiscGolf]

Love the work you put into this!

[@jasonioan]

Thank you! I had a lot of fun making it!

[@geraldrowan8960]

Anyone noticed how much the Shades behave like Aethers?

[@thefycfoundation2867]

Loving all your videos!

[@dirkrousseau462]

Threnody the Cosmere world I have (had now I have watched this) the most questions about. This answered all of them that could be answered thanks for making this!

[@DenofLore]

You are the best BrandoSando channel out there. Sorry RAFO - too quick for even my adhd brain. Keep up the good work.

[@arenkai]

I've been playing Death Stranding recently, and the more I get into this game, the more I feel like it could have been a Cosmere game where Humanity found the corpse of a Shard, and it messed up reality by merging Shadesmar with the Physical realm through some powerful Connection-based magic hahahaha Beach Things (B.Ts) are Shades, the powers in this world are a weird exploit of Connection between people and objects, The Beach is obviously Shadesmar (litteraly described as "The world between the world of the living and what comes after", and it's a manifestation of people's conception of what "death" is, a cognitive image if you will ;D), Timefall withers people like Shade attacks do, Extinction Entities are Avatars of a Splintered Shard's corrupted intent that causes the death of entire planets (seems to me like the Father Machine on Komashi !) Okay... Maybe I'm too enthusiastic about connecting the Cosmere to Death Stranding, but the similarities are staggering to me !

[@ThePhantomphan11]

Dan is definitely going to write his series on this world, calling it now

[@jdstroud4458]

Another great video! I definitely can't wait to learn more about Threnody and the evil in future books

[@jessehughes8274]

Threnody is one of my favorite worlds, thanks for doing it justice!

[@jasonioan]

Thank you for your help!

[@avlost1784]

I would also be freaked out to be out there and there be no wind! The only thing stirring was that rusting flying squirrel!!! These videos are great. I'm looking forward to your visit to Canticle because i am having a real hard time picturing everything going on there.

[@bravetraveler768]

Loving your vids and this coordination with spooky season. Good stuff!

[@tomhalpin5058]

My GOAT posted

[@cobbwebb_]

I can't believe you don't have more subscribers! This is absolute aluminum, dude.

[@jasonioan]

Thank you! Hopefully more people will find me eventually!

[@michaeleggimann106]

Omg it’s been awhile because I’ve been avoiding cosmere stuff- waiting to read book. Fucking hell I love your journey approach to making these videos. I’ll start trying to share your channel

[@Haze8277]

Great video!

[@ThatLibralita]

5:59 in regards to blood, I can't remember if this in the novella or a wob but it has to be with intent to spill someone else's blood. So if you got a bloody nose, all good. But if you punched someone and they started bleeding, then I think we might have problems.

[@jasonioan]

I reckon if I punched someone and they started bleeding we’d have problems even before the shades became frenzied haha

[@Gropylol]

when will we actually get a story in Threnody? Looking at the projected books, I dont see any. Unless Mistborn era 3 brings us there.

[@jasonioan]

Sanderson plans to write the Night Brigade eventually. Era 3 involves them in someway so maybe you're right and some poor scadrians will get marooned on that horrible planet.

[@Gropylol]

@@jasonioan Right, Night Brigade, right after Whitesand, Era 3, and 6-10 stormlight, so in 2040?

[@LurcherrMusic]

Very nice!

[@that1oneguy770]

It seems likely that the evil is semi-self aware investiture left over from splinters of ambition.(probably corrupted in some way) it's been said that large amounts of pooled(inactive) investiture can gain sentience given enough time, and this investiture has(assumedly, I don't know the timeline of the shard battle and the evil showing up) had a long time to evolve. also I was honestly expecting the shades eyes to change to red at the end of the video.

[@jasonioan]

I agree! I thought I had mentioned that in the video with the nomad quote, but maybe I forgot? Regardless, I think you're right and that they're at least some of those chunks that got ripped off Ambition and they developed sentience. I thought about changing their eye color! I just couldn't figure out a way to make it look good. The lights in the eyes were only Green LED and changing the color in post didn't look super great. Also I was burning copper the whole time and that seemed to hide me somewhat.

[@that1oneguy770]

@@jasonioan You did mention it as "wild unchained investiture" I was just speculating on why and how it formed

[@jessehughes8274]

Very fun props this time!

[@Omnicrola]

Excellent video, this turned out great! I spent the entire video waiting for the shades to turn red and you to haul ass off screen, the tension was palpable 😅

[@jasonioan]

Chekhov's Shade will return... 👻

[@christophercomeaux8005]

wonderful

[@ryanryanryansmith]

My theory about what is wrong with Threnody and the presence of the Evil after the splintering of Ambiton had to be apart of whatever Odium had done to make their Unmade. It’s just seems like Odium took something from his shardic conflicts either directly or indirectly and used them as the basis for Unmaking. I can’t help to draw a comparison to the changes to the Singers after the imprisonment of Ba Ado Mishrim to the Threnodites. I haven’t seen any of the WaT previews yet, so this may not apply anymore.

[@that1oneguy770]

Yooo, another one!

[@jasonioan]

Enjoy!

[@darkrad7535]

so here is my theorie on how to get to Threnody: you have to wait in the Cognitive Realm (CR) for someone to die, then when the person enters the CR as a Cognitive Shadow (CS) and his CS is pushed back to the Physical Realm (PR), you grab on to them, form a Connectin with him somehow (for example a Duralumin Medallion) and go with him to the PR.

[@molliethomas2585]

Threnody, the perfect world for Spooky Season 👻

[@godminnette2]

Great video! Minor clarification: "[Odium] went after Ambition first, but didn't find Ambition until after going after Devotion and Dominion. But Ambition was number one on his hit list." WoB #e1550

[@jasonbailey9139]

So, you're really traveling to places with similar biomes to those of the Cosmere planets to do these videos? I was kind of thinking you were just really good with your green screen. Kudos to you for the physical effort!

[@jasonioan]

Thanks! And yes, I’ve shot all of these cosmere videos since the Beyond Adonalsium video on location.

[@DqwertyC]

One of my pet fan theories is that perpendicularities to Threnody somehow form in pools of blood. Morbid, transient, fits with the darkness of the world, and potentially gives shades a reason to not want blood to be spilt

[@jasonioan]

That’s one of my ideas as well. I’ve thought that for a while, but the only thing that gives me pause is that Brandon said it has to do with the shard dying nearby and I’m not sure how that would relate with pools of blood. Although, It might be a high concentration of people dying in the same vicinity. All those cognitive shadows appear at once might poke a hole in the realms

[@curiousdaniel78]

Please tell us how you made those props. I want to make them for my house before Halloween

[@jasonioan]

Sure thing. My wife and I mostly followed this tutorial but we only purchased one foam head and made duplicates of it by wrapping it multiple times in plastic wrap. www.marthastewart.com/858108/cheesecloth-spirits

[@Oxegyn]

Threnody is one of the few planets in the cosmere I do not want to go to under any circumstances

[@dpowemsj]

At first I thought that was a jar of Dor that was used to get enough BEUs to travel to Threnody.

[@patsonical]

Ironically, I think the Forests of Hell are one of the *safest* places to visit, there are no predators, natural or otherwise (Shades don't count because they don't actively seek out people to kill unprovoked), murder or any physical scuffle is incredibly dangerous for anyone involved or nearby (and hence likely very rare), and the Shades won't attack unless you break one of the Three Simple Rules. So as long as you're careful/aware enough to not stumble through a Shade, and don't get on someone's bad side enough for them to sick a trained killer on you, you should be fine.

[@kevinmacedo9289]

"Saudade"mentioned 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@OdenGender]

I FUCKING LOVE YOUR VIDEOS

[@7nage]

Where are we this time brother

[@jasonioan]

Threnody! I was able to visit an aspen forest and film there. I did get jump scared by a flying squirrel though while filming, so that was a little spooky.

[@matthiasdvorsakhillebrand2393]

And just like the case of Honor in Roshar, could Uli Da’s personality, her Cognitive Shadow have survived through one of her Splinters somehow? We know she died outside of the Threnodite system, but maybe some of what she was lives on in the Evil? Kind of like how Leras died to imprison Ruin, but the Shard retained a piece of his personality for millennia after that before eventually dissipating completely around the time of Mistborn Secret History. Maybe something similar is happening here. And as I understand her Intent, Ambition seems to want to possess and take as many things as possible, so that is maybe why the Evil seized the Homeland and killed everyone there, cause it wanted to have it all to itself

[@UncleMikeDrop]

I wonder who the Afmiral is. I suspect Silence is the Admiral.

[@matthiasdvorsakhillebrand2393]

And I wonder if Uli Da, being a Sho Del, posed as a goddess to the humans living in Threnody somehow? I don’t know if she would want to do that, but who knows, maybe she enjoyed having humans bowing to her and worshipping at her feet. I still think she might have had something to do with transporting some of her kind to other planets in the Cosmere, like U Tol

[@FatedHandJonathon]

4:52 ARE YOU ONE OF THE TEN FOOLS, MAN??? What if that spark had landed on a patch if dry grass?

[@jasonioan]

Haha worry not. It has rained recently and I had a gallon of water behind the camera. My Boy Scout skills haven’t left me that much, I think.

[@Theangryhermit]

Ummm… it’s right behind me, isn’t it?

[@jasonioan]

*dies*

[@AndresLopez-st3lz]

Wait, if they sucked the water from a Human limb isn't that similar of the black things at the end of Tress of emerald sea? ( I forgot their names😅) Those things also requested water in order to bond with them and Silver was used to kill spores

[@djbslectures]

❤❤❤👻👻👻😱😱😱

[@Harbringer12]

I was genuinely expecting a "goof" and a video cut where you broke a rule and suddenly the shades eyes were red, forcing you to end the video in a rush. Tad disappointed that didn't happen, but great video anyways.

[@jasonioan]

Man that would’ve been a way better way to end this video. Why didn’t I think of that! I probably would’ve been more willing to experiment, but no one was able to go into the mountains to shoot with me. So I kinda just wanted to get out of there as soon as I could. I will file that away for a future video

[@Harbringer12]

@@jasonioan Wait, you're researching the cosmere, writing your scripts, world hopping to locations, and capturing the light weavings......all by yourself??? Don't you have a research grant from Silverlight? Or at least aid from one of the Shadesmar organizations (The Ire, 17th Shard, or a worldsinger group)? I sense a tragic backstory for why you're becoming your own version of Nomad