THRONE AND LIBERTY | Greatsword & Staff | Updated Build Guide (Skills/Passives/Traits)

[@Gniewomir82]

Off meta builds will always be my favourite. Keep good work!!!.

[@Zardos00R]

Thanks, will do!

[@David-uo2bl]

thank you for your guides, it really helped me get into this game. I've always been a fan of a battle mage.

[@Zardos00R]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@ronverseart5850]

new subs here playing on KR server! I love your pvp videos man, it's awespiring. you're too good in pvp! keep making videos on pvp with Staff and GS! ❤

[@Zardos00R]

Thanks brother!!! I plan on making way more content for Throne and Liberty once it releases globally.

[@pinktacoticklerpinky130]

I was on the right track of this. I didn't know about the fireball barrage so I focused on the lightning. I can easily go back and get those skills up to blue at least. I'm fixing to hit level 50 and need to get better gear for sure. I am loving the build I have so far thou. it has worked well for me but I do like how you can be away from your opponent and deal lots of damage. I have a good rotation right now with my setup. Thanks for this guide though, I saved this video so I can get more in depth with it.

[@neezyhdn]

Great video very helpful bro i cant wait to play staff gs

[@Zardos00R]

Glad I could help! You'll have fun with it!

[@burakorun4592]

Everyone runs gs sns, sns wand, bow wand etc. I want to try sth. different. Thats why this game came out, to give us more options/alternatives. Why should i play sth classic? I wanted a build for a battle mage and it looks good. Will really give it a try.

[@razvangabrielhen2428]

Yooo more pvp vids please :))) you the only one rocking this build

[@Cor-tt8rd]

I watched a vid about the Gate of Infinity time to kill chart for different weapon combo builds. The top was 4.6 secs for xbow/dagger and in second was xbow/staff ttk was 10 secs. (I have heard that the skill Mother Natures protest with Flame is very good with all the projectile skills in staff.) At the bottom was GS/Staff at 1.31 mins to kill. I am not that familiar with the Gate of infinity but could you test your build to see what your time to kill is. As I have watched your vids, 1.31 mins seems like a long time difference making me wonder about the GS/Staff combo. I would think with all that heavy attack chance, and crit you would decimate.

[@razvangabrielhen2428]

[@Zardos00R]

Well sadly in PVE content if you are looking for the fastest ttk it will be with daggers. Daggers currently have some crazy busted passives that allow the highest dps over time and in a quick burst. I can definitely do some Gate of Inifinity to see how fast I can clear it and see what is the most optimal dps. PVP is quite different when it comes to DPS due to all the resistances and the fact players can move around counter.

[@Cor-tt8rd]

@@Zardos00R Daggers wasn't the focus of my post, but more of the xbow/staff combo with a 10 sec kill on gate of infinity verses the 1.3 minuets kill with the ds/staff which totally seemed way off after watching some of your vids. Have you tinkered any with the xbow/staff as it seems pretty rare.

[@Zardos00R]

Honestly I haven't seen anything on xbow/staff. But I could see some crazy dps due to all the tick damage alongside with xbow having the best dps in the game. To me that seems like a very strong PVE build, but currently no one uses it in PVP yet.... It could be something tbh. A lot of players don't really want to get creative in this game

[@gruenjapfaelzer9628]

What was the melee rotation?

[@ChishidoRae]

Hi just found your channel cus it suit my pvp style as an battlemage in souls games, do you have any guide for early leveling? Just found out about this game and it will come out next month so a leveling guide for GS/S is really helpful. Your pvp video is really good, keep up the magic content.

[@Zardos00R]

Thank you!!! I will be making a guide on the process of leveling up the GS and Staff from 1-50 alongside what skills should be leveled.

[@Edpon]

​Glad to hear it, looking forward to your takes on leveling!​@@Zardos00R

[@SONOVGODZ]

The voice crackle was epic 😂😂😂 then the laugh after

[@CANTONMENT_FL]

Question? I will be doing your build on console launch but I also want to play SNS/GS, do you use GS/Staff for both pve and PvP?

[@Zardos00R]

You can do both setups but I would recommend leveling up one set first as it will take quite a bit of time to get passives/skills leveled up.

[@CANTONMENT_FL]

@@Zardos00R ok kool tysm for the info. So since it takes a while to level up passives which order should I prioritize my weapons passives GS then Staff then SNS or should I go Staff / GS then SNS?

[@Zardos00R]

Yeah pretty much! You wont really need insane SNS skills/passive until Tier 2 dungeons. I would recommend leveling GS/STAFF and then SNS

[@CANTONMENT_FL]

@@Zardos00R Bet!

[@JDJJkey]

Thank you legend!! :)

[@Zardos00R]

Glad it helped!

[@Pedrift0]

Thanks for the video! I have a question, what is that black armor you are wearing? It looks incredible but it has a different look to the one you have equipped, is it a transmog from the shop? I didn't find it anywhere :(

[@vasilich7832]

very nice build!I want to play with staff as my primary, so can you tell me what are the pros/cons?Is it worth it to play w staff primary or i should stuck with gs?

[@rochale8239]

what about SNS staff in your opinion ? i really love playing melee role that have a bit more tank side and can kill, but i found playing staff in this game are also fun, i like GS too but i prefer SNS for my role so, i love off meta build so i need opinion about that combination..

[@Zardos00R]

I was trying the SNS and Staff combo out and found it was fun but was a fun combo. I was learning that setup until the server transfers came through and made me lose all my other gear :(. What I found was it was quite good at tanking and dps, just hard to tell as my sns never was maxed out against 4k gs players.

[@rochale8239]

@@Zardos00R good to know, and i think it worth to try that out when server release, might combine your build into it, it looks goodly sick...

[@Zardos00R]

For sure!! Look into a weapon combo that you enjoy. It's a MMO after all! If you play something you don't really enjoy well then you'll quit a lot sooner.

[@Trignial]

Is gs/staff viable for PvE? I've been running gs/dagger but staff has always been on my mind.

[@urraurra9977]

Hey! Im putting together this build in global, but im a little bit lost about pve (both dungeons/bosses and open world stuff)! Is the other vid still relevant? ty!

[@danielZ90X]

I am very interested trying out this build. It seems good. However nobody is talking about it which makes it even more appealing. What do you think the biggest drawback of this build is?

[@Zardos00R]

No one talks about it due to dagger being to strong for dps weapons. If you want the easiest build go daggers. Greatsword and Staff is solid for sure has a lot of potential in pvp. I have fought all weapon combos and it works so well. You are the perfect all rounder for pvp. The biggest draw back would be no cc immunity. If you can get the Talus staff then I would say that helps the build so much

[@danielZ90X]

@@Zardos00R Thank you so much! Yeah my first pick was Wand/Dagger. Secondary Staff/Dagger. But I do love this "off meta" Staff/GS! So I will probably go with it and see how it goes

[@neezyhdn]

Yo Zard can u do a guide on the gear and leveling process for starting players using staff gs like what gear and traits to use till end game before t2

[@Zardos00R]

I was planning on making a video for the blue gear you will want to max out once the game releases as Tier 1 purples will be a nightmare to get!

[@13jvin]

@@Zardos00Rcould you also include which skills and passives to focus on first while leveling to make the grind easier.

[@dariusdenmark4267]

Will that video be out before the early access period?

[@Zardos00R]

@@dariusdenmark4267 Yes sir!! I will have a video out before early access release. This week :)

[@Zardos00R]

@@13jvin Of course!!

[@VikingClassic]

Following. I’m wondering if there is something a little more lightening focused. A lightening great sword type of build. I’ll have to use this as a starting point. Great vid

[@Zardos00R]

You could make the build more lighting focused. The only issue is that lighting skills need burn stacks to reach it's full damage output. Lighting is for sure really good for large scale content

[@VikingClassic]

Nice ok. So burn for max damage. But I also reading stuff about frozen/wet. Does that help with damage or more aoe or something? Ahh the build combinations lol. I’ll have to to just wait until I’m there I think to really understand the cohesion. Just looking up weapons and armors skills without using them ain’t gunna cut it lol

[@GhostlyWispers72]

How do you get the wraith armor? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

[@Zardos00R]

KR version of the game

[@Pedrift0]

what transmog are you using?

[@jvclouds]

My question is , I see that you now have the Greatsword as your number 1 weapon slot does that make any changes to the type of build you had before when having the Staff as number 1 , does that also change the stats and damage you are able to apply on opponents/mobs ?

[@Zardos00R]

Oh staff is for sure the number one slot and the weapon that stays out most of the time. Nothing changes from swapping the spots

[@jvclouds]

@@Zardos00R thanks for answering brother I’m really enjoying this game & keep up the vids man they are very informational!! Also would like to know was it hard getting this build to end game if you’re there already & how was the process of getting there should make a vid maybe of that

[@MrPhillyy]

hey man. new to TL and have never played any version of the game. waiting for global and just doing some research about weapon pairings and early game progression. Im really fantasizing the staff/gs or bow/gs off meta combo. what are your thoughts about their viability compared to each other? i do like jumping in and face tanking while in melee range so any thoughts about their sustain? keep me posted man! subbed.

[@Zardos00R]

GS&S and GS&Bow do play very different from one another. As bow is more focused at staying at long range. Bow biggest weakness is close range and facing the opponent up close. As the bow doesn't have a get off me tool and low mobility . The great sword can help with that but I would recommend always keeping that distance and never face tank with bow and GS. You can get some crazy good healing going on with that combo. I personally like GS&S more as it offers a better all round combat style. Also the benefit of silence protection that really does help against daggers. You can play this weapon combo as a bruiser but not a face tank as SNS is the only tank weapon. The speed you can get with all the mobility skills with GS&S can allow for some crazy good movement speed.

[@MrPhillyy]

@@Zardos00R thank you very much kind sir for the effort youve put in in your reply. that was very much appreciated!

[@Zardos00R]

Of course!!!

[@Nootkaz]

In console its same build and rotation?

[@xbrowningboi2x]

What armor is that?

[@jeremyknappenberger5364]

I’m so torn in between following the meta and I can’t decided if I’m screwing myself for late game or not. I started with gs and staff but kept being told to switch to staff and dagger because there’s no synergy between gs and staff. So I switch to staff and dagger and I don’t like it near as much as gs.

[@Zardos00R]

Chose what you like

[@nelsonnelson31]

What is this KR version?

[@QuangLe-ny6ds]

Need more videos! You should do a leveling progression guide

[@Zardos00R]

VIdeos will be coming soon. Global is a week away!!!

[@jimmyc1510]

​@Zardos00R man I'm pumped! Do you think it'll be out for launch? I saw someone had a sns and wand level guide where they showed the whole run but the traits and things would be different obviously. Do you think this style would be better than wand/dagger?

[@Zardos00R]

​@@jimmyc1510 Posted a new video on leveling progression and gear guide kzbin.info/www/bejne/b526qYyshdKLrqs Depends really dagger and wand are quite good weapons that has a very good burst dps and good sustain in combat. The issue is long cooldowns and limited skills for dps. This weapon combo only does damage from curse bomb/ curses. With the Archboss wand it would be insane but if you do not have that weapon it isn't as good. Great sword and Staff will be a harder combo to learn in the beginning for pvp. More consist dps and most options in pvp.

[@jimmyc1510]

@@Zardos00R will I be viable without the boss weapons as gs/ staff? Obviously it'll give more but I wasn't sure if it's worth using at the release. I'm fine working to learn the pvp side. Do you think its good for pve content?

[@Zardos00R]

Yes you will be okay without the Talus staff. As the blue staff are quite good. The cc immunity is just insanely good. Yes very good for pve.

[@ethangraner7102]

I’m about to pick this game up tomorrow. Really want to do this build. Is this a good leveling weapon combo as well?

[@Zardos00R]

Yes all combo can perform through leveling

[@zeracold5965]

Thank you!

[@Zardos00R]

You bet!

[@__dokgomate]

its the best build for solo..the passive has increase hp and mana.. i just wondering now, why put stats on dexterity? there is no crt dmg on staff gs.. ah its for bonus dmg at 50, and you have enough point to spent?

[@Zardos00R]

The reason is for the 15 bonus dps. Also Dex increases attack speed which is pretty damn nice.

[@__dokgomate]

@@Zardos00R yeah yeah, thats pretty damn nice, i already tried it.. 👍 and also i really love both of staff and gs passive skill which increase a lot of hp/mp and heavy attack change..

[@JetBlackThreat]

Seen a few naysayers about this combo but I like it

[@Zardos00R]

It's not for everyone. But that's okay. Its a fun build for sure

[@JoT-s3x]

How do you change your armor color?

[@Zardos00R]

This is on KR :)

[@Shraeden]

hey man, have you tried Ice spear with fully upgraded skill traits ? i think it could work well and highten the dmg for your combos. either as a ranged starter or filler for the melee combo, id switch it out for stunning blow - Ice spear needs the bind skill trait for that to work picking up all 3 would be optimal tho. not sure how debuffs work as it applys frost so id use it as a starter in ranged incase it would remove burn stacks if casted after inferno wave for example. just fiddeling around with skill/character builders atm and thought id share this. cant wait for global release :p Edit: to expand on why id switch to ice spear bombardment from stunning blow: Deathblow and acending slash need either a stun or a bind(bound) for their respective bonuses to apply. Ice Spear bombardment binds for 3s at 80%chance while Stunning blow stuns for 3.2 at 80% the 0.2 sec stun duration shouldnt matter in that combo since the 2nd knockdown comes in before youd reach the end of stun anyways. so in the end youre getting a hell of a lot more dmg form switching stunning blow out for ice spear bombardment.

[@9874-l2j]

yeah ice spear is a need. he needs to add it and share another video for us

[@Zardos00R]

While Ice spear is very good but it doesn't offer a very good synergy with the rest of the build. Since we are using burn and most of my skills You could replace a Greatsword skill for ice spear and make it work. But it depends if you want to sacrifice close range burst for long range burst dps. Either way you can put ice spear into this build. I personal like fireball barrage better as it lowers you're enemies mana and tracks players that are cloaked.

[@9874-l2j]

@@Zardos00R yeah i think ice spears bind would cause more confision for enemy also more damage. then you can still keep using GS skills. maybe just remove barrage special skills to have ice spear?

[@Zardos00R]

@@9874-l2j Depends really both ice spear and fireball are good skills. They just have advantages over each other and do different things. Ice spear is an amazing skill so using it on the GS/S combo is totally worth it

[@Zardos00R]

@Shraeden hmmm i wouldn't recommend removing stunning blow as that is you're best option to counter daggers. Losing that skill will put you at a huge disadvantage.

[@Gearscore_Diff]

would you say this build is better for 1v1 than dagger staff ? or generally better overall in pvp ?

[@Zardos00R]

that depends to be honest. I would say I like GS and Staff more then Dagger and Staff. D&S has a very predictable fighting style for 1v1s. GS & S has a better fighting style for 1v1. If you want the best dps and survivability that would go to dagger and staff as cloak and the daggers passives are over tuned.

[@Gearscore_Diff]

Thank you bro i think i will focus on this combination gs/staff, it has mobility so i can see the outplay in 1v1 being stronger with unpredictably.

[@Zardos00R]

Yes the build is quite good in 1v1 3v3 and for sure is good enough to compete in guild vs guild content

[@9874-l2j]

i was going to make dagger but ... what about "staff/GS" for pvp and pve at first ? after they are lvl 11+ i can level up Daggers too. this is more logical BECAUSE dagger is only about passives and cloak: but GS is more than that! so when the important staff/gs skills are upgraded to purple we can go and level up daggers easier after that. what you guys think ? GS is getting edits to have more powerfull AOE attacks so this build might be the king of PVE too right?

[@Zardos00R]

This build is good in PVE content. I have completed all forms of PVE contain in the game. Granted for the highest dps it will be with Daggers as those passives are insane. Yeah daggers are a support weapon that only are used for cloak/passive. Which makes the weapon very bland to play. Greatsword and Staff has a lot more options to mess with for sure

[@babako79]

Nice Guide... 👌what about Large scale pvp? Did you tried it? Is it possible? 🤔

[@Zardos00R]

Sadly I'm not in a guild that does pvp. Since the timezone is KR and I am located in the NA its quite hard to get something going. The server merge that happened on the hyper boost servers really sucked as I am in a very meh server. I have done large scale pvp in the Open Beta and it performed quite well.

[@khyrxloot7179]

im using this same combo but the biggest issue im having is getting absolutely stun/cc locked and theres no cc breaks in the kit

[@Zardos00R]

Talus staff is the savior for this build

[@CannaMaster]

How are you level 53?

[@sushmitasharma7930]

Bo how much time it took for the full gears?

[@Zardos00R]

Hyper boost servers were much quicker then the current live servers. Except to take like 3-4 months to get fully geared.

[@nicolasgarcia7369]

can i run full evasion build?

[@Zardos00R]

Yes

[@OnironautaYT]

It'll be awesome if you explain in a new video how to level with this build before global launch 😊

[@Zardos00R]

:) Don't worry that was the plan. Video coming soon

[@CANTONMENT_FL]

I’m subbed #202!

[@Zardos00R]

THANK YOU!

[@louis4324]

Can this be use for pve?

[@Zardos00R]

Yes it can. Done most of the content in KR servers. Besides the Tier 3 dungeons

[@CannaMaster]

Which server u on

[@Zardos00R]

Crimson NA west

[@cha0ticinsanity]

How effective is this build in PvE?

[@Zardos00R]

I have done all the PVE contain on KR. In my opinion it performs quite well.

[@rogersanchez868]

you need to make thebuild available in the web for builds pls, like everyone, its simple to follow, plss, and you can update and comment if you change something and we can follow you there.

[@ASL_llaxxus]

does this work for pve also?

[@Zardos00R]

Yes

[@animalvelho17]

also works in PvE ?

[@AngkyArcade-i4e]

No it’s for pvp only

[@Arkeny-SS]

Omg this whole time iff been thinking the build was staff as a primary and great sword as second . so Saff/ GS .. and you have GS/ staff ..

[@Zardos00R]

Hahaha of course!! This weapon combo doesn't get the attention it deservers. Its a blast to play

[@addiction6109]

It doesnt matter gs/staff, staff/gs same thing!

[@Sebcastets]

Hello , ur build is rly good !! but u can make build for T1 pls ? :p thx !

[@Zardos00R]

I can try. Still looking around my self

[@razvangabrielhen2428]

letsssss goooooooooooooo

[@dlcgaming2642]

Dude go more pvp moments

[@Zardos00R]

I plan on making more PVP videos

[@ShadowbaneTV]

We going on East server might make guild. I might start with this

[@Zardos00R]

Awesome!! Let me know how it goes!

[@OriginalFeel]

Facts bro! Make more videos. Now is the time.

[@uglyfoox8964]

So we have to pvp in the game?

[@Liambeck19]

No

[@chrisgil7637]

Wait how are you 53? Isn’t the max 50?!?!

[@soldierbobo]

Dayuum..i am asking the same question

[@Zardos00R]

KR server

[@1whoknowsn01]

What about pve? Same thing?

[@Zardos00R]

I would be different. I have a video on it already

[@alf3052]

Former enhance shamen from my wow days... Battle mage you say 🤨

[@miropetrov2734]

all heil the lich king but fire one ^^

[@Zardos00R]

Sauron walks the earth!

[@slkskate]

Runes? Wtf are runes? Lol

[@DONCP-wu1ou]

Bro paid for all this cus I’m level 50 and I don’t even have more the. 34 for strength

[@Zardos00R]

This was KR Hyper boost. Much easier to level up

[@xbrowningboi2x]

@@Zardos00Rwtf is that?

[@Zardos00R]

@@xbrowningboi2x A KR version that allowed players to level up way faster in gear score

[@nodegriffith2216]

bro do you have discord to ask few questions?