THTIndoFest2024. "Harappan Civilization". June 14, '24. Speakers: Dr Mayank Vahia. Dr Cameron Petrie

[@1kaisar1]

The bull leaping seal has a striking resemblance with the bull leaping depictions from the Minoan culture, which dates to approx 1500 BCE. Somebody should take a look a it, since it may require further analysis.

[@iuvvuiieii]

The Great Bath at mohun ja daro is replicated in the numerous temple ponds/tanks in tamil nadu south india . 'Jallikattu, the bull fighting sport popular in tamil nadu is seen on Indus Seals kept at Delhi museum.

[@mpnikhil]

Again with this tamil fantasy? Dude have been to any Hindu temple outside Tamilnadu? Hindu temples across India have ponds for ritual purification. It's called a कुंड.

[@mpnikhil]

Every video in this series you have the same comments. Did you listen to Prof Vahia at all? He says clearly at 23:45 that there is no evidence of any warfare. How can your Stonehenge fantasy be true without any warfare? How are lakhs of people "displaced" without any warfare? Seek some counseling and medication. Don't make a fool of yourselves by copy pasting your deranged fantasies.

[@iuvvuiieii]

It is known that the word 'pallu' means teeth and 'ellu' means sesame seeds, is indicative that the Indus language may be similar to tamil.

[@iuvvuiieii]

The urban inhabitants appear to have abandoned their cities and migrated east and south. It is highly unlikely that the IVC with five 5 Million inhabitants, spread over a million square kms would be seriously affected by natural disasters, but an imminent Stonehenge type invasion would definitely motivate the entire population to abandon/ evacuate their cities and migrate at short notice. The absence of defense mechanisms, support the evacuation/migration strategy. The IVC adminstration could easily and efficiently manage such a colossal move The warring, horseriding Andronovo/Sintashta/Steppe cultures were active in the area, at the time.(2000bc to 1150bc.) It is of note that the Steppe ancestry is absent in the south Indian ASI genetic genetic profile, meaning the Steppe invasion of 1900bc,1500bc and 100AD did not affect the south indian population.

[@mpnikhil]

Dude give up your invasion fantasies. None of the stuff you say has any credible support. Nobody invaded and nobody got displaced. There is exactly 0 evidence for any of the gobbledegook that you have written.

[@vakarthi4]

We really need to get out of the Aryan invasion mindset which we keep trying to insert back. Sangam literature does not indicate geographical descriptions of Punjab or north Indian climates. Also, the foods consumed by IVC are wheat. No memory or trace exists of Tamil literature of wheat consumption. Other other hand, in Bengal we can clearly see continuation of terracota dolls in direct continuation of IVC. We also see Rajasthan and Gujarati traditions of bangle wearing match IVC.

[@iuvvuiieii]

Evidently, the urban population of the IVC appears to have been replaced by a far less competent and inefficient rural population reflected in the late Harappan period, post 1900bc.

[@mpnikhil]

How can a mature civilization, biggest of that time be replaced by far less competent people? Please take some medication for your hallucinations.

[@mpnikhil]

Nomadic argument is bizarre. Obviously vedic people knew agriculture and vedas talk of settled life. One may say vedas depict a pastoral and rural setting. Its not like India in harappan times did not have villages and it was all big cities.

[@mpnikhil]

Prof Vahia is unfortunately using some old and outdated cliches when it comes to "Vedic people". There is no evidence to suggest that Vedic people had genetic affinity with central asia. We do not have any ancient DNA from the so called Vedic people. Actually in central asia we had a thriving BMAC civilization in late harappan times and the ao called Yamnaya or Sintashta people had no genetic impact on the BMAC. So unless they took a flight over central asia, there was no way for any of these people to come to India.

[@mpnikhil]

Horse need not be indigenous. Even in historical times horses were expensive imports, like BMWs of today. Native americans got the horses from the Spanish but in a short period of time they composed eloborate poetry and mythology around them. Some native american teibes even started calling themselves people of the horse. So the horse argument doesnt stand much water. Its not like we suddenly start finding copius horse remains after harappan times. Horses were always rare and always prized and coveted.