Thunderbird is Going to be Better!

[@SDWNJ]

I’m happy that they’re finally talking about some form of configuration syncing in Thunderbird. I’ve been wanting something like that for a while, even if only a config export/import capability. One of the reasons I like Thunderbird is that it is cross-platform, running on Linux, Windows and macOS. Being able to set it up once and sync configs will make it much easier.

[@mathew12.9xxoo7]

Your videos are always so important TO ME THANK YOU ! FOR YOUR FREE INFO,T,IME AND ENERGY TO INFORM ME IN THE DARK.GOD BLESS YOU!

[@wanderingcalamity360]

Unfortunately, there's the matter of Mozilla openly calling for "more than deplatforming" of political dissidents after Jan 6th. Which has concerned and driven a lot of people away from Mozilla products.

[@BurgerKingHarkinian]

That was a very bad move from Mozilla's side. But boycotting all Mozilla products solely because of that and possibly going with an inferior product because of that is just stupid.

[@readypetequalmers7360]

@@BurgerKingHarkinian Is that a joke? Those same reasons are why people are watching these videos on ditching google and apple.

[@readypetequalmers7360]

These companies I think really are run by tyrants. Early days it was all about openess/feespeech/your choice...liberating the people from oppression and control. Now each company is pushing for more control even the companies who sell themselves to privacy conscious people. Mozilla is one of the few companies that is competing with web tech for their browser, so... it is troublesome when they put me into a position support open standards by picking a bad company or accept a mono culture and pick a bad company that's even worse.

[@BurgerKingHarkinian]

@@readypetequalmers7360 no, I am not joking. Why should I be joking? You can disagree and criticize them for their foolish behavior but they are still worlds better than Google, Microsoft, Apple and co. Their stuff is open source and fairly transparent. If you don't like something, you can just change the things you dislike. Good look doing that with those other mail clients.

[@jackson32]

@@readypetequalmers7360 I agree with you. BurgerKingHarkinian is just stupid. You can't fix stupid. So in other words what he is saying go ahead and use thunderbird but then you will have to forget about giving your honest opinions on things or informing others of all the craziness being done by our governments. Makes absolutely no sense.

[@maybeor1524]

You made my day! I'm so exited to grab your phone and really start self-investing into my own privacy. Thank you for making it easier for those of us (me) on the "Barnie" level of this journey 😉

[@nicktruman7181]

The attack is location specific. so once you come back to a location it is already aligned with your previous location forever but if you travel to a new location it takes a little time for the satellite to align but it will eventually start.

[@psy237]

thunderbird is by far the best email client out there, all others are just simply crap. Thunderbird is the only client that actually works like an email client should work. I'm using it on linux as well as windows and apple crap^^

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

That's entirely subjective and a very silly comment to make. I use only Linux (I rid myself of my Microsoft abuser when Windows 7 support ended and have never owned an Apple device in my life) but I stopped using Thunderbird some years ago because it is far too big and bloated for "just dealing with email". I moved to mutt some years ago and my SUBJECTIVE opinion is that it is far superior to any other email client I have used - yes, it took a while to configure it the way I wanted it and relies heavily on keyboard shortcuts but once those shortcuts get into "muscle memory", there is nothing faster for dealing with emails than mutt. One question - are you a masochist? It's just that if you consider Windows and Apple to be crap (which ultimately I agree with as a statement) then why do you continue to punish yourself using them?

[@gregorythomas333]

Great news! I have been using TB for many years but never used anything for mobile devices...this will be very welcome.

[@johnbenett4288]

Canary Mail is the best FOSS choice for iOS. It has seamless End-To-End Encryption, Full PGP Support, Biometric App Lock, On-Device Fetch, No Ads, No Data Mining & Open Source Mail Sync Engine.

[@spykerhond7008]

you are now the king of youtube creators for me

[@JS-wl3gi]

I use Thunderbird because I have financial, personal info coming and going, really need my data if internet goes down. Glad to see Thunderbird is going to be ported to Andriod eventually.

[@Marcel-dx5hl]

aI am using a portable version of Thunderbird, ; its executable and all its data (emails, contacts, parameters) are contained in a portable encrypted virtual disk. Every month, after erasing useless emails, I backup that virtual disk and keep 2 copies on 2 different portable hard disks. I keep at least 3 older copies also. I have not lost one email since about year 2000.

[@jackcollazo]

That's an excellent idea. I've just recently did a backup of my Gmail and was thinking of wiping it out so that I can use Thunderbird to read older emails in private.

[@jim4859]

This is really good news. I've used Thunderbird for many years.

[@theadvantageformula319]

It needs to be better, much better. I wish a mobile platform was its only issue. I have stalled moving to Thunderbird b/c of the shortfall of how it stores files, folders, calendar data, etc.

[@seeithappen1]

Thunderbird is the number 1 email client out there. I use it to diagnose email problems for many clients

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

Actually, I would suspect that Outlook is the number one email client out there in terms sheer number of users - albeit is a bloated piece of single-threaded, proprietary Microsoft crap.

[@seeithappen1]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 You are right I should have written my reply more accurate. With number 1 email client I meant its accessable level of settings and configurations which makes it perfect for an email diagnosing tool. I also meant with number 1 for the end user having everything you need to handle emails in all possible ways. And then there are all these good addons for thunderbird.

[@mscir]

Thunderbird rocks. GREAT news. Thanks Rob.

[@kaufcw01]

Rob always knocking out bangers!

[@experimental0000]

Been on Moz://a for decades with Mosaic, Netscape, Thunderbird, and Firefox. Sure they may not look flashy, but they have "just worked" without giving me issue.

[@ScorpionCar]

Thunderbird is the best! 😄

[@NameName-rk6ov]

Another great video! Thanks so much for you're insight!! You've helped me so much

[@PeterTrudelle-1]

Thunderbird started as part of Netscape Communicator, not Mozilla.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

Incorrect. It had nothing to do with Netscape Communicator. It launched as "Minotaur" at around the same time as "Phoenix", which was the original name for Firefox.

[@PeterTrudelle-1]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 I was there working on both. Where were you?

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@PeterTrudelle-1 No, you're trying to wiggle out of being wrong. Go back, read my comment again.

[@PeterTrudelle-1]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 plonk

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@PeterTrudelle-1 No, sorry, I haven't got a clue what you are on about. I speak a language called "English" if that helps. Do try to keep up, old chap.

[@technosaurus3805]

Seamonkey combines Firefox and Thunderbird as 1 Mozilla product. Used by Puppy Linux for years.

[@pepelapiu2004]

Even if you put aside all the security and privacy features, T-bird is by far the best and most useable e-mail client. It will be very interesting to see what they do with mobile apps.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

And when someone like me comes along and says "I think Mutt is better", who is right or wrong here? Have you tried all other email clients to the point where you know Thunderbird is the best. Because I used Thunderbird for quite a few years and then moved to Mutt, which I think is better. In other words, when I state my opinion, I can do so from a position of knowledge and experience - and note that I did not say "Mutt is the best email client" either - I said "For me, Mutt is better than Thunderbird".

[@UtwoBed]

OE Classic Pro beats them all hands down because it's the resurrection of my favorite email client, Outlook Express.

[@MsHojat]

As far as I recall for a long time Microsoft mail (I presume just their e-mail service, not as likely e-mail clients) downloads remote content to their servers first, making beacons less useful since they just always get marked as read as soon as the e-mail is sent, regardless of whether the user ever opened the message.

[@TwinGears]

i used it before it was separated and labeled and it's never care if i have 20 years worth of email. Google on the other hand has made using pgp a real problem with thunderbird, they claim it's still possible but it seems someone that knows google well - wants some of us to use a plugin to do the same where it would allow other service corporations to look over my encryption shoulder. My favorite part of thunderbird is just being able to move the hidden folder to any computer your going to be using and no lost time when sticking with GNU linux, login for the first time and fire it up like just left it...

[@GeemailMailboxx]

Thanks Rob, for sharing the news about Thunderbird. 🤗👍

[@lightyagami9186]

Did you also test tutanota with the beacon attack? They block of this tracking images/pixel per default

[@GordonHudson]

This is huge news. It's been hard to find an email app for Android. K9 mail has been buggy and it's not very intuitive.

[@muzdravmachaka3647]

Fairmail is the thunderbird for android. Maybe its a little bit better, 100% customable.

[@pepelapiu2004]

+one on Fairmail. Until T-bird comes out it is the best thing you can get on Android.

[@personanongratis]

@@muzdravmachaka3647 The developer of Fair Email abandoned the project!

[@mirror1766]

@@personanongratis the developer abandoned all projects, and restarted development on them again.

[@spykerhond7008]

thanks rob , when you made it sound that easy to be de googled it tickeled me to figure out that the main virus that blocks 3rd party os software on android is google play services, the 4 letter word company wallware.

[@danr8472]

Mailspring is also free and open source, thus there are other alternatives out there

[@MO-ss7qt]

I truly want to rid myself of Outlook. For the PC, I believe Thunderbird is going to do the trick. But I need something that works on the iphone. I don't need it to be robust because I don't really use email much on the phone. But sometimes I need to pull up an itinerary or something when not in my office. Apple mail or Outlook is really my only choice and they're both bad from a privacy standpoint. Damn these malicious companies that set us up for invasion.

[@Aomicplane]

I've personally been using ThunderBird for over a decade and a half and FairEmail on Android (which is also open-source).

[@buzzsah]

Qoestion, I have 6 addresses, I need to rearange them in the list on the left. Can I change the order that the addresses are in. Like move the bottom address to the top, and so on?

[@JaskoonerSingh]

If you want to access Gmail or Microsoft email accounts you have to use custom plugins for Thunderbird. Some of these plugins are dated and defeat the security model advantages of Thunderbird advised by the author

[@jackoneil3933]

Thanks Rob, helpful and informative as usual. Looking forward to Thunderbird for Android. Have you evaluated 'Fair' email for beacon attacks?

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

Did you really watched? He said that has no server anymore to try the beacon attack and see if K9 is safe therefore he F CAN'T test the beacon attack. Do ¥0u have some m€π+@/ d¡$@b¡//¡Ty? Also do you people really trust Mozilla corporation? Being less evil doesn't mean not evil.

[@cccalifornia7206]

Excellent news 👏 👍 Thank you

[@lynna3218]

Would you say thunderbird email is safer than proton mail? What is the safest email provider out here?

[@robbraxmantech]

Thunderbird is not an email service per se. It's just an email app that can be used with any service

[@steviebro0538]

What about Tutanota? It's the one I'm currently using.

[@MadCowMusic]

Thunderbird prevents beacon attacks.

[@steviebro0538]

@@MadCowMusic But does the Swiss-based one I use do that too?

[@MnemonicCarrier]

I love Thunderbird. I love Linux. I love the Rob Braxman Tech channel. That is all...

[@lyfandeth]

Is there a place to download your beacon tracker test program?

[@robbraxmantech]

I lost some of the code and so I have to rewrite it. I will do that again at some point

[@lyfandeth]

@@robbraxmantech Thank you, Rob. I know how little spare time you have, so I really appreciate this.

[@mhutton56]

Betterbird even better😎

[@jscott4493]

I have the latest upgrade but it does not show the date received in the received column. So far I have not been able to find how to fix it.Tried help bu no answers found.

[@christothegreat1]

Rob you should collab with Steve Gibson of Gibson Resource Center it’s be awesome!

[@donavanrosario1767]

And no one can ever read my correspondence to the utopia ecosystem. This is a unique project of the future. New encryption method.

[@PNWAffliction]

thunderbird mobile will be a gamechanger. will be nice to finally 100% get away from outlook. been using TB since day 1 and never looked back.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

So you're making the assumption that Thunderbird on mobile will be a direct replacement for Outlook on mobile when Thunderbird on PC is not a direct replacement for Outlook on PC - not that I personally care about that bloated piece of crap or Microsoft's proprietary Exchange nonsense.

[@muzdravmachaka3647]

Nobody talking about fairmail? This is the real thunderbird for android. I wouldnt ever go back from it. It has even dns delivery confirmation.

[@benjamintucker9829]

I had Thunderbird a long time ago, I don't even remember what my email address was. Had it on a Linux PC.

[@robbraxmantech]

Thunderbird is used as an email client. For any email. That is separate from a thunderbird email subscription.

[@amuktana]

What about Postbox? Is it not (almost) similar to Thunderbird?

[@obfuscateidentity2329]

Why is there no Thunderbird email client for iOS being developed?

[@alec2726]

Thank you!

[@manw3bttcks]

They're not really getting an accurate location off your IP, it's just the ISP registration location for that ISP (verizon for me). From what I've seen it's about as accurate as showing the IP # is inside an area like 10 miles by 10 miles. Also in most cases you aren't even inside the area of registration. In my case, my verizon IP shows down in the Washington DC area many miles from my house. Hardly very useful for identifying someone.

[@sporqfoon5989]

I just got back from my local cell phone provider who said, there is a federal law coming July 1st, that will require all cell-plans to be linked to ID. Anyone know anything about this?

[@waylonk2453]

Shiz, that's news to me! I'm sure it's some regulation put out by the FCC, not really a law. Maybe stop by your local wal-mart to see if they're selling straight-talk wireless plans for cash still, that would be a good indicator.

[@sporqfoon5989]

@@waylonk2453 Senate bill 3427 requirements Senate bill 3427 proposes to require sellers of prepaid wireless mobile devices and SIM cards to verify a purchaser’s Acceptable identification documents for in-person sales would include a government-issued photo ID or two forms of alternate identification, such as recent W-2 forms or Social Security statements (Form 1099). For online or phone purchases, sellers could verify a customer’s identification information via credit/debit card numbers, Social Security number, or driver’s license number. The seller would then be required to create a record of the sale and forward it to the wireless carrier, which would . The information to be retained includes the identification information, date of the sale, manufacturer name, wireless carrier, telephone/account number, and other technical information to identify the mobile device or SIM card, such as the international mobile subscriber identifier (IMSI).

[@mistyculous9644]

@@sporqfoon5989 So you cannot buy a phone for someone else for a birthday present? or sell a phone to someone else after you've used it for awhile? Weird

[@weggy3]

hi Rob, do you think its at all possible blue tooth type wireless signals could interfere with human brain and brain signals, 4g 5g transmissions going thru skin and bone and directly through the brain altering it as they pass through thanks my names Jeff love your channel

[@aravindsarkar1255]

I am using Thunderbird in Linux mint.

[@brindlekintales]

Thunderbird suddenly deleted all my email a few days ago, after using it for almost a year. This was after an update in Linux. DON'T TRUST THUNDERBIRD!

[@gtaitbiz7787]

Rob, did you do a video on stingrays devices?

[@robbraxmantech]

Many

[@gtaitbiz7787]

@@robbraxmantech thanks, I'll research it

[@brokenspine66]

My favored, I use it since it split from FF and before together with FF. I wished there were a Android Mobile version but there's Hope?

[@1cathexis]

Hi Rob, I want to ask an off-topic question: I have a five-year-old Windows 10 Desktop PC with a 500g SSD and a 2Tb HHD. I want to sell it, but not my info on it. I have reformatted the HHD (the D:drive) with the built-in Win tools. How do I reformat the C: drive (the SSD) so it is REALLY wiped even though that's the one running the Win 10? I don't want to do IT surgery; I'm hoping for a SW solution. Any ideas? TIA!

[@anthonysach]

You can buy software to do it with a military grade wipe. A simple free way to do a fairly secure wipe would be to put the C: drive in another PC as a slave drive :d or e: etc. then delete the partition using Disk Management. To stop someone recreating the partition and unformatting it, I would make a small partition and format it with FAT32, then copy a few files over then format it with NTFS and copy a few non important files to it and then delete the partition. After, create a full disk partition and format it. Then install whatever OS you want to sell it with. This will mix up the Master Boot Record and it will be difficult if not nearly impossible for the average person to get any data from it. If you don't have another PC to do it, download a Linux distro and make a bootable USB stick then boot to the USB stick and format the drive, Then install Linux on it, this will overwrite the MBR and the beginning of the disk so will also stop the average person getting at any data. You can format it again and install a different OS if you want.

[@1cathexis]

@@anthonysach Thanks for your fast reply, Anthony. The 2nd option is way more than I want to get into. The 1st option: "You can buy software to do it with a military grade wipe. " Do I need another pc to run that off of? Probably a dumb question but I'm asking.

[@1cathexis]

Thanks for replying again Anthony. I do appreciate your patience.

[@danwake4431]

If you want to be REALLY sure, remember hard drives are dirt cheap these days. Take your C drive out and destroy it. Drill holes in it, whatever. Buy a cheap SSD, put it in the computer and sell it as is. Then you will know FOR CERTAIN no one can ever recover anything you ever had on it.

[@anthonysach]

@@1cathexis Not sure what happened to my second reply, for some reason I have had a few vanish / deleted recently. Someone else has mentioned getting another cheap drive for the PC as well, but I would say you could keep the old ones as a back up and encrypt them. I will do another reply because it may have been deleted because of a link or for mentioning a product, maybe because G is not paid for advertising it.

[@dougphillips5686]

How does Thunderbird VPN compare to other vpns

[@alexsmith6271]

Fairmail try it

[@65matt75]

Been using it for several years now. It's the best client on android hands down.

[@matts2588]

I use protonmail and hear it is good

[@hinglouie7924]

I have used Thunderbird for many years, but now it is not working. Having issue with it, such as taking too long t load

[@harounlee208]

you have to talk to him, to say him goodbye, and tell him you will see him in another future live. Then you have to remove it from your computer. Then you have to reinstal it, and it will work well if it has a good karma, in other words if there is some kindness in your emails

[@slappythesquirrel2371]

thunderbird sometimes get erratic and so it randomly not inform me new email coming in until I restart it.

[@anthonybostock4854]

Hey Rob, look at this news report from Reuters, thought you would be interested as it looks as if 5G is causing problems around airports. WASHINGTON, June 17 (Reuters) Verizon, AT&T agree to delay some 5G deployment until mid-2023 The Federal Aviation Administration said Friday that Verizon Communications (VZ.N) and AT&T (T.N) have voluntarily agreed to delay some C-Band 5G usage until July 2023 as air carriers work to retrofit airplanes to ensure they will not face interference. The two carriers agreed in January to delay through July 5 switching on some wireless towers and depowering others near airports. Verizon said Friday the new agreement will allow it to "lift the voluntary limitations on our 5G network deployment around airports in a staged approach over the coming months meaning even more consumers and businesses will benefit from the tremendous capabilities of 5G technology." AT&T said with the FAA it had "developed a more tailored approach to controlling signal strength around runways that allows us to activate more towers and increase signal strength." AT&T added that it had voluntarily "chosen in good faith to implement these more tailored precautionary measures so that airlines have additional time to retrofit equipment." Concerns that the 5G service could interfere with airplane altimeters, which give data on a plane's height above the ground and are crucial for bad-weather landing, led to disruptions at some U.S. airports earlier this year. In recent months, the Federal Aviation Administration has been urging airlines to complete retrofits of some airplane radio altimeters. Acting FAA Administrator Billy Nolen on Wednesday urged the chief executives of major U.S. airlines to move quickly to address risks from a 5G wireless rollout by installing filters on radio altimeters, in a bid to avoid potential disruptions at key airports from next month. Airlines for America, an industry trade group representing American Airlines (AAL.O), Delta Air Lines (DAL.N), United Airlines (UAL.O) and others, said at an FAA meeting Friday they learned "the vast majority" of members fleet of 4,800 total aircraft "would need to be retrofitted by July 2023" and raised questions if that is feasible. "Given that the FAA has not even approved solutions nor have manufacturers manufactured these products for most of this fleet, it is not at all clear that carriers can meet what appears to be an arbitrary deadline." The FAA said Friday "filters and replacement units for the mainline commercial fleet should be available on a schedule that would permit the work to be largely completed by July 2023. After that time, the wireless companies expect to operate their networks in urban areas with minimal restrictions." Airlines CEOs on Jan. 17 had warned of an impending "catastrophic" aviation crisis that could have grounded almost all traffic because of the 5G deployment. Reporting by David Shepardson; editing by David Evans

[@mistyculous9644]

Can you post this on Brax.me in "rob subscriber's chat" ??? You can just include the link, not the whole article

[@kleptokars3259]

Question im getting a motorola stylus 5g Metropcs Im planning to degoogle it as i saw 1 post on reddit Should i do it?

[@mistyculous9644]

whatever you do, don't advertise you've done it on social media! Just do it and keep it quiet you did it.

[@macboogieland2897]

is the app android only? still not released? cannot find anything on this

[@spykerhond7008]

If you read this , know that you are not a hero , you are a God , a hero is a God's hard labor! I now know how to rig lineage OS and CRdroid on a samsung s5 making it run like a cray computer vs googloid. Even getting back to stock android 6 is like copying data to me now. thankyou brother , I was really giving up on smartphone hardware.

[@michelbisson6645]

Good thank you

[@inyourowntime2240]

thanks sir

[@gtaitbiz7787]

Can you do a video, dumbing the information? I'd like to charge with the average person. I told many people that, their phones spy and they see it as a problem. I just like to bring them to your channel.

[@christopherrimplington3643]

How can I recover my password and full name in Thunderbird?? I only remember my email.

[@Scranny]

I installed Linux on my work laptop and tried to set up Thunderbird to work with my company's Microsoft Exchange server. Other than email, things just don't work (Calendar only syncs partially, employee contact lists are missing and don't auto-complete, no Zoom interopability etc.). Is there a better Linux email client that mimics Outlook and plays nice with the corporate constraints of the Microsoft clown world?

[@BurgerKingHarkinian]

With Thunderbird that is.

[@_sneer_]

Evolution

[@BurgerKingHarkinian]

Why tf did my "davmail" recommendation get deleted?

[@BurgerKingHarkinian]

@@javaman4584 yeah, saw those things happen sometime as well. It's so annoying. At least my old comment didn't consist of more than two or so words this time.

[@murtadha96]

I wouldn't hold my breath until Thunderbird figures out a monetisation strategy (like charging for their software). You almost never find intuitive free and open source applications with great UX that are not backed or funded by large corporations. The exceptions are rare. Mozilla itself (and Firefox) wouldn't have survived without Google as it is its main source of funding.

[@monkeybarmonkeyman]

Hmm... don't like Proton?

[@zainahmed4172]

i cannot login my institutional mail in thunderbird, it always opens new windows and is unable to authenticate because of that. Garbage mail system, use prospect mail instead if you use institutional mail service.

[@maxcohen13]

So... it's been a year. _CRICKETS_

[@LionRoars918]

Except it won't connect to Gmail.

[@lblittle1207]

I'm having to go back to GMAIL

[@a68k_de]

Thunderbird was great. But with the versions it gets more and more power hungry. Start version 31.4 in 4 seconds (with some thousand emails and 3 pops installed) vs. version 11 seconds (with only a few test emails and one pop installed) Also we don't have to talk about the UI and lack of addons - as good addons don't work anymore and the UI is looking like a byproduct of too many drugs by the devs. Same shame problem with Firefox.

[@lblittle1207]

Thunderbird updated my Thunderbird, now it's unusable!!!! Bullshit!!

[@cryptoboss197]

ROB IM BEING SUCKED IN

[@____-gy5mq]

SeaMonkey squad

[@andrewkamoha4666]

Thunderbird is bloated !!!!

[@sumwun9574]

Thunderbird sucks. It's slow, clunky, and with the latest update, the interface is garbage and they REMOVED the ability to search globally through all mailboxes. It's trash

[@nicktruman7181]

I got an email from lending club on Gmail and as soon as I clicked the link a directed energy attack had triangulated my location and I caught it on the EMF detector app at about about 300 and 35 is normal. it was probably a beacon attack but I did actually click the link but it rane in the browser that is attached to my email not in a new browser. I am getting attacked now. every night.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

It's probably aliens.

[@moenibus]

Mozzila? really? My respect for you has been affected

[@spykerhond7008]

almost nothing is greyed out on these phone distro's

[@weebhatecrew330]

Who even uses e-mail clients?

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

People that have email accounts. That was easy, next question, please.

[@energeticsoulhealer888]

I am looking to purchase a phone from you, but the link supplied takes me to your social network? Please advise.

[@robbraxmantech]

That's where the store is. Sign up and the store is there. Or if you're looking for BraX2, it is on Amazon

[@psfgtech]

I just dumped Microsucks, they lost my OneDrive. How did this company grow? MSFT is junk. I also use Linux Mint