Thunderbolt Apache Leader | Playthrough | With Mike

[@OneStopCoopShop]

0:00 - Introduction 1:10 - Campaign Set-Up 8:52 - Day 1 10:41 - Mission 1 Set-Up 16:56 - Mission 1 Combat 28:03 - Mission 2 Set-Up 31:10 - Mission 2 Combat 37:43 - Day 2 (Mission 3 Set-Up) 40:26 - Mission 3 Combat

[@danieldwyer]

Mike does an awesome job of displaying a TAL play through showcasing the rules in a very condensed amount of time. Mike was also very kind in discussing rules with me in the comment section. If you are new to TAL or just want some TAL entertainment, I believe this is the best TAL video on KZbin. Give Mike a thumbs up if you liked his video.

[@Hybban]

End of second run: "We're gonna mop up this map" Beginning of round 3: "There gonna destroy the apache." Love this game.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

yeah, the random pop-up enemies and events add some great flavor to the game.

[@Mark-2509]

At 22:55 you could of fired Independent weapons into hex 8 along with hex 9 as Divot was hovering and can fire in any direction. (360 Degrees) Also at 25:35 you do not have to go to low altitude to target the enemy pop up Helicopter. The L on its counter is for line of sight so if behind a ridge and your also at low altitude you could not target him. Great playthrough as well.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Thanks for those!

[@CC-zq3ge]

Man! The memories! I played this game back in 1992 when I was in the Navy. It was brand new at the time. I just might have to get the updated game like shown here.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

That's awesome! They have a ton of games in the Leader series by now :)

[@NefariousKoel]

Info on those weapon types: AIM = Air-to-Air Missiles Mark 20 = Cluster bomb (unguided) LAU = Unguided Rockets AGM = Guided Air-To-Ground Missiles Mark 82/83 = 'Dumb' Bombs GBU = Guided Bombs (laser- or GPS-guided for later models), i.e. "smart bombs" ECM = Electronic Countermeasures pod. Radar Jammer.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Nice, thanks for that!

[@marcoferrario2032]

5:06 Show of Force tells you to *place* battalions one range band closer, I’ve always played like you do this at the start regardless of them being fixed or not.

[@danieldwyer]

Using the cannon, you can only fire at one opponent in the hex. Also, hovering doesn't allow you to attack two hexes the same turn. Your attacks can only target one hex, with the exception of the high altitude guided missile. You can't combine a cannon with range missiles.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

If you have specific timestamps, I can look at which moments you mean. However, two rules to point out that might clarify some of your questions: Page 9 - Independent missiles can attack one unit outside the hex you are targeting. I thought these were what I used in the playthrough, but it's been a while so I might be wrong! Page 16 - A hovering unit can attack ALL units in its own hex with a cannon. If I still got things wrong, let me know the timestamps and I can add subtitled corrections. Thanks!

[@danieldwyer]

@@OneStopCoopShop Hello, Mike. Thank you for responding to my comment. I found your play through to be very entertaining and informative. Also, you called me out on something I misinterpreted. So, let's explore. 20:04 You are right, I thought you were saying you could attack every hex around you, not unit. Good call. And well executed. 21:48 36:00 You don't take BINGO unless you remain on the board at the end of the turn in BINGO 6. That is why BINGO counters exist. See page 19, Place bingo 2nd paragraph. 43:15 The attack should of been random, as all targets are the same distance away. 46:00 I see you used independent missiles and the cannon. I don't think this is explained very well in the rules. Per page 16 Attack choices, it would seem that a cannon attack can only be operated alone, as you will need to direct the cannon fire. However, you did use independent missiles. I guess this could go either way depending on how restricted the cannon fire is. Thank you for answering my comment and clarifying rules will me. I'm sure you will find the bingo rule I pointed out giving you an extra turn to be very helpful. Good luck in your future gaming and thank you again for making gaming videos. Sincerely

[@OneStopCoopShop]

@@danieldwyer I'm not fully clear on what I did wrong at 36:00... can you explain a bit more? The paragraph you referenced says "If an Aircraft is still in a Hex when the Loiter Counter is moved into the “Bingo 6+” square", and my aircraft was definitely still in a hex... so rolling for bingo fuel was correct, right? I added a subtitle correction for the 43:15 targeting mistake. Thanks! And yeah, cannon and independent could be better clarified. I find that in a lot of rulebooks by Dan, even though I enjoy his games a lot!

[@danieldwyer]

@@OneStopCoopShop Geesh, OK, I stand corrected again. I must be getting mushy in the head with my aging. I think you can delete this comment section if you like, considering you subtitles the video. Once again, good play through. And I learned some strategy from you too.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

@@danieldwyer nah, no worry, I think it's good for people to see the discussion. Again, I don't think it's either of our faults. Dan just needs to get a better rules editor :)

[@007nikster2]

Wow this game looks like a lot of fun.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

It can get pretty epic in feel :)

[@darrenbelcher6121]

you can't use a Top Gun quote in a game with no F-14's!! :D Thanks for the playthrough - always love watching people do better than me at this.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Hahaha, Top Gun fits into ANY situation, especially beach volleyball!

[@polfig7558]

Would be nice if thay did something like Hing Frogfoot Leader, for the OpForce.

[@JLH111176]

not that it matters but at 17:15 you only rolled 1 die for 2 APC. That mission was no problem at all barely an inconvenience

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Oh good catch!

[@amberr5939]

42 minutes: "What, someone survived all that?" Me: "They were in the latrine. The whole company."

[@OneStopCoopShop]

BWAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, when that dude popped up... such a surprise

[@amberr5939]

@@OneStopCoopShop reminds me of playing all the Strike games growing up. Might have to pick this up. Hopefully the expand the line with various terrains and whatnot.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

@@amberr5939 they have some expansions already, but I didn't buy any of them yet.

[@darrenbelcher6121]

@@OneStopCoopShop I got the expansions from the KS but apparently there's a few issues with errata :( Check that out before you buy.

[@Elicurren]

I would love to see a sci-fi version (TR3B/Aurora Leader) or a fantasy version (Dragon/magic Leader).

[@OneStopCoopShop]

That would be awesome! Anything is possible now that they are doing Warfighter fantasy

[@giovanniciriello8585]

Thanks for the video, very useful! Just a question: can an aircraft attack, then move, then attack and finally move again? In pther words, is possible to split attacks among movements?

[@OneStopCoopShop]

I don't believe you can do that. Here is the rules quote from page 15: "An Aircraft can Attack at any one time during its movement. An Aircraft can Attack before it moves, or the Aircraft can Attack after moving into any Hex during its movement." I read that as you get one single attack opportunity, so no move, attack once, move some more, attack again, etc.

[@xxjj4082]

Thanks for the play through, I just got on board and bought the game.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@xxjj4082]

@@OneStopCoopShop I hope so, I bought all the expansions to go with it!!! LOL

[@polfig7558]

Wouldn't you say, that at its core this is a dungeon crawler? Think about it. Tactical combat, ridges as walls...

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Certainly a tactical combat game, but not sure there are enough boss fights and loot drops 😜

[@polfig7558]

@@OneStopCoopShop I recall some cards that read: 'When you defeat this battalion each pilot looses 1 stress' or 'gain extra SO point'. I'm sure there was something like that... And there are some drops in the expansions (though not loot). Surely that counts!

[@xxjj4082]

Just a quick question, what was your decision to pick those pilots??

[@OneStopCoopShop]

No idea at this point, sorry! The video is almost 3 years old :)

[@xxjj4082]

@@OneStopCoopShop Thank You! I understand, I'm "johnny come late to the party"!! LOL