Thundershot vs Sure Shot rimfire, with 2000fps slow motion

[@FuzzyDiceProjects]

Very cool. This is the most in-depth I've seen this sort of target, nice to know more about exactly how you use them though I probably will never get a chance to.

[@slowmotionexperiment5119]

We like the videos keep it up! You deserve way more subscribers!

[@Gyppor]

Thank you!

[@Flightstar]

I see your linked from the Gyphon energetics website. I'm finding it difficult find online distributors who have this in stock, especially at a reasonable price. $150 a case at one place and I sure as hell aint paying that

[@Gyppor]

Is that for a case of 6? If so that's highway robbery! The vendor I referenced below in reply to Drew Smith's comment sells the cases of 6 for $80 and cases of 18 for $225. If you're paying $150 for a case of 18 I want to know where you're buying from because that's one smoking deal!

[@Flightstar]

The first and only time I bought the Gyrphon product was about 2 years ago for about $100 bucks for 12 X 1lb free shipping from some company Alberta.. I think. I just looked at some of the typical online Can suppliers and many are out of stock. I found one that wanted $150 for a case of 12. That is a fucking rip off for a few cents worth of chemicals. A couple months ago Cabellas had Tannerite on for $89 for 20 X 1/2 lb. That was not a bad deal, close to what I paid for Gyrphon a couple of years ago. Shot some the other day, not as good, stock, but, just as good after a dedensification process. We discussed that in an earlier comment and I was surprised how well it worked.

[@Gyppor]

Range rabbit told be they had it in stock last week, $120 for the case of 12 rifle targets and free shipping. I was giving you the rimfire prices before, I didn't realize you were talking about the rifle targets! But yeah, 150 for the case of 12 is way too much. You can also try canada ammo "ka-boom" targets, cheaper than anything else around in Canada although not as loud and I've had more failures with them. You have to order a minimum amount from CA to get free shipping. In the end, I always go back to gryphon energetics. I just like the bigger bang :-)

[@Flightstar]

Thanks. I agree, reliability and the extra bang is worth the few bucks more. Just went on Range Bunny and did not see the option for case pricing, only individual targets. I'll give them a call.

[@eze405]

This is a KZbin channel Owned by Gryphon Energetics , of course he is going to act like a 3rd party but this is directly from Gryphon.

[@Gyppor]

Thanks for commenting and checking out the channel. This channel isn't owned by gryphon energetics. I've been posting slow motion videos of firearms, wildlife and heavy equipment since well before exploding targets were even available in Canada. I've given both sure shot rimfire magnum and thundershot rimfire a fair shake here: I've shown that you indeed give more than 1/2 pound per target, I've shown the targets are just as powerful as gryphon's offering, and I've even given you suggestions to improve your product - adding an anti-caking agent and changing the bag tying method - to make them more user-friendly. Heck, I've even shown in this video that your targets have less empty room in the top for a glancing shot to destroy the jar without setting off the charge than gryphon's targets do. This is a point in your favor. If you decide to alter your formula to reduce or eliminate the caking, I'll do another video comparing them.

[@eze405]

We have seen Gyppor promoting at first “Gryphon energetic Exploding Targets” and after Sure Shot was being made and sold in Canada “Thundershot”.. hmmm? Ask Andrew.

[@Gyppor]

The actual targets said "gryphon energetics exploding target" on the label back when they were introduced so that's what I called them then. Since the jars now say "thundershot exploding target" that's what I call them now. When and how gryphon energetics chooses to name their targets isn't any of my concern, neither is whatever grievance you seem to have with them. The issues I've pointed out with your rimfire targets are very easy to address, and I'm trying you help you by pointing them out and suggesting fixes. Either way, thanks for looking at the channel and I hope you at least enjoyed the high speed footage of your targets if nothing else. And thanks for bringing the rimfire targets to Canada in the first place. I've shots lots of them over the years.

[@banditoffroad6523]

wow talk about low class!! someones obviously butthurt that their product got called out for being shitty lol

[@Flightstar]

Actually the performance of the sure shot looked a slight better in the slow mo than the Gryphon, albeit the caking is a bit of a set back. The fine powder could be Ammonium Perchlorate, which has a tendency to "cake" This could be solved with anticaking agents.