天朝渣男图鉴(原剧:《芝加哥》)

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@shuyiqiu992
@shuyiqiu992 6 жыл бұрын
原版的芝加哥里,那些被杀的男人是因为出轨、欺骗,这是美国女性心里觉得应该杀的人,但是中国本土化的芝加哥里,那些男人除了出轨,还有杀女卖钱,家暴,威胁强暴,而且最可怕的是这种残忍的事情是真真切切地发生在中国女性身上的。对这个翻唱我真的完全折服,文艺作品针砭时弊当如此。
@jorisu
@jorisu 6 жыл бұрын
原版里其他还能理解,就是第一个pop gum那位,就因为老公喜欢pop gum,然后有次她生气警告下还pop了一次,就被她射杀了,这操作也太犀利了🌚
@junruichen3862
@junruichen3862 6 жыл бұрын
@@jorisu 我也觉得奇怪,不过后来看了一下科普,好像说第一个男的是吃软饭,然后gum是隐喻毒品
@shuyiqiu992
@shuyiqiu992 6 жыл бұрын
@@jorisu 有个解释是说她老公pop gum就是暗指他无所事事,靠吃软饭过活,而且还不尊重劳动赚钱的妻子,所以第一个女人一气之下杀了他。
@szyulian
@szyulian 6 жыл бұрын
杀妻骗保
@liangkangwang8364
@liangkangwang8364 5 жыл бұрын
影视剧夸张才有人看,你把影视剧里的奇葩逻辑当成美国女性觉得应该可还行。你这逻辑属实女拳。
@charlottey5017
@charlottey5017 6 жыл бұрын
微博上被滴滴举报后删除后更是给这个视频蒙上了一层现实魔幻主义的色彩😊
@curumu_yt
@curumu_yt 6 жыл бұрын
资本家真是恶心
@mukeshuiling
@mukeshuiling 6 жыл бұрын
@@curumu_yt 是资本家联合政治家
@panfangjia2218
@panfangjia2218 6 жыл бұрын
已经不止是删除了……发布的姑娘已经被炸号了……
@louismike9517
@louismike9517 6 жыл бұрын
中国怎么回事?
@nanz280
@nanz280 6 жыл бұрын
是的呢,我都惊呆了
@panfangjia2218
@panfangjia2218 6 жыл бұрын
原发布者微博已炸号,B站视频已经不在,网易云也搜索不到。有些人啊,平时嚷嚷着你们女人的地位还不够高吗,此刻却连一首翻唱都容不下。国内女性地位在144个国家中排第100位不是没道理的,然而有些人还要装瞎,当真是可悲可叹。
@tonghailin3337
@tonghailin3337 5 жыл бұрын
pan fangjia 现在第103了😂😂
@alliez6079
@alliez6079 5 жыл бұрын
tonghai lin 现在106了
@lintinann
@lintinann 5 жыл бұрын
@@alliez6079 慘。中國女性生活無望
@bbqcoconut8923
@bbqcoconut8923 5 жыл бұрын
109了
@moyyun
@moyyun 5 жыл бұрын
所以那首«我告诉你女孩子一生都要害怕些什么»也被下架了
@yutinglin4024
@yutinglin4024 6 жыл бұрын
其實這個翻唱和原著差別蠻大的,原著中的男人們並沒有做出真的需要償命的罪行(出軌和令人煩躁啥的)但被無法忍受的女人殺掉了,體現的是一種瘋狂和荒謬感,這也是整部芝加哥音樂劇的基調,但是這翻唱裡的男人是真的非常可惡,好幾個已經是犯了刑事案件了,所以基調更像是為社會中受到不公義對待的女人們發聲,固然言詞必較激烈也是為了藝術性並使翻唱和原著顯得更相似,但撥開表達形式,翻唱的內容是值得反思和關注的,結果一堆人只看的到一些激烈的言詞就大加批判,說這歌是鼓勵犯罪矯枉過正啥的,也不知道是真的蠢的看不出來這首歌到底想表達什麼還是故意不想懂,然後這歌和一個有才華有思想的作者被封了,誰跟我說大清早亡了阿,真是太可怕了
@brucebatman3894
@brucebatman3894 6 жыл бұрын
徒有琴的微博,B站,网易云都被炸号删干净了........太讽刺了,现实生活的讽刺
@jinkeli2309
@jinkeli2309 6 жыл бұрын
才一晚没看,睡前还有,现在没了吗
@zg3391
@zg3391 6 жыл бұрын
不管是什么内容 天朝真的需要更多文艺的自由 作品怎么样让人自己去评判 动辄封号删视频的 哪里还会有好作品出现呢 这首歌只是用第一人称描述了六个故事 上纲上线说是教唆和田园女权真是醉了(利申:男性)
@yunzhuzhang2936
@yunzhuzhang2936 6 жыл бұрын
troy guo 非常同意,自由表达是这个作品很有价值的一部分
@yummytummy322
@yummytummy322 6 жыл бұрын
没有自由啊问题是....只要不对他们的意,就是被封杀,封的死死的,你有本事封一辈子吗?你封不住众人之口
@kew4100
@kew4100 6 жыл бұрын
芝加哥本土化。。太成功了 惊艳。。。
@jironglin380
@jironglin380 2 жыл бұрын
居然已经四年了…真是毫无改善,甚至变本加厉的四年…
@linjiang2554
@linjiang2554 6 жыл бұрын
海外中国男性赞一下。有时候KZbin是挺言论自由过盛乌烟瘴气的,但是国内闹魔幻事的时候墙外反而是一个充满安全感的最后一点希望。
@yiran9478
@yiran9478 6 жыл бұрын
刚看到被删了过来重温,跟原版立意完全不同却极其贴近尼国国情,真是非常优秀的翻唱!
@yujiasong1925
@yujiasong1925 6 жыл бұрын
这歌听的我浑身汗毛直竖,最可怕的点是这些事件都有现实生活原型。然后是滴滴打车。。。真的绝了
@Glamically
@Glamically 6 жыл бұрын
Hutong Saxophone Son of a turtle[1] DiDi The 14th Floor The daughter is sleeping Let's welcome Six experiencers who have profound comprehensions on scum Hutong Saxophone Son of a turtle DiDi The 14th Floor The daughter is sleeping He does deserve it Can't be remitted Because he's eager to be a ghost It you were there At the same moment I bet you would act more straight (Pekingese) My husband is such a funny man The reason why I married him is that he can really make me laugh But one day I found a notebook It's nowadays He still used a notebook! I really had no opinions on the old-school behavior And I liked it Then I found He catalogued every woman he slept With details Guess how he catalogued? Using the location! Hutong! Hat Hutong means playing upper part Sunflower Hutong means playing the lower part Isn't that funny? Of course my name is on it In the last page With black cross on the name It's said Dead end hutong! Fuck which is consistent with death right? He does deserve it Can't be remitted Why he bothered anything It you were there At the same moment If you blamed it on me, why didn't you do it earlier? (Shanghainese) We met at a cafe He was really good at playing saxphone And I was really obsessed with that They all said he had a good temper I truly felt it after marriage He did have a good temper And he had an attitude when he beat his wife Using saxphone Hard Easy to use The blood is eay to clean as well What should I do? He was with an attitude I must also do it great, right? So I have to hit his head with saxphone Just at his head Bong! Sounds great Better than playing saxphone He does deserve it Can't be remitted He only had himself to blame It you were there At the same moment It's justice and you can't blame it on me (Sichuanese) After 5-year marriage We still didn't have a child We went to the hospital It was his problem But he didn't want a divorce I had feelings on him too I wanted to adopt a child He agreed The boy was so cute I was so happy I was a mother finally But my husband never called the child's name He called him Son of a turtle I said "If the child is a son of a turtle Who is the turtle?" Guess how he replied? "No matter what, he is not my son" Then one day I get back home after work The child's face was down in the bathtub I rushed to put him out The child can't move anymore already And he was laughing Said "The son of turtle should be in the water" Well, the father of son of turtle should be in the water as well Jialing River is enough to live for him It you were there At the same moment You would chime in with every shout (Cantonese) He loved gangsta when he went to school And he became a gangsta finally I wanted a breakup Then he said "I will change" "I will find a job" I gave him the last chance I bought a small house to live together with him At the 14th floor One day he came back in a hurry Put a bag in the closet Using a new SIM card, made a phone call in the toilet I heard "Right, the 14th floor. Yes, the 14th floor" And he left in a hurry And I've never met him since then 5 minutes later the police came Said "An anonymous reported somebody hide drugs at the 14h floor" (Hunanese) I met him when I used DiDi[2] after breakup He was the driver and I was the passenger Since then He came everyday driving his broken car Waiting downstairs Rolled the car window down and smiled at me said "DiDi once, marry me immediately" Everyday, everyday, everyday And he got my number from somewhere Sending dirty talks to scare me Even I changed the number Why didn't I call the police? I did! He was just educated in prison for 3 days! At the third month after he said he would fuck me, the bitch, to death in his car I spilled gasonline firstly Smiled at him, with his body fastened in the seat "Didi once" "You're looking for death" He does deserve it Can't be remitted His live is just a failure I have no choice I have to kill You can't make me feel ashamed He does deserve it Can't be remitted He was just looking for death I have no choice I have to kill No one can judge me at all (Shandongnese) The third child in my family Is a cute daughter Born in winter Sleeping with his fater at other side of the bed The child is not quiet at night Always cried Wanted to drink breast milk I had to feed her But she was quiet at that night I asked her father Her father said the daughter was sleeping For three times In the morning he got up Went out with the baby in his arm I felt strange I went up and hold my daughter She was fairly cold Already dead Her father said someone in the neighbouring village spent 20,000 RMB Hold a hell wedding[3] for the daughter It's worthy! My daughter was killed by her own father with his hands Okay? My daughter had a wedding Her father must be there And I send him to the wedding. Drinking one more cup of wedding wine for me. Receiving one more kowtow for me. Scum should be killed, killed, killed Scum should be killed, killed, killed He does deserve it Can't be remitted His live is just a failure I have no choice I have to kill You can't make me feel ashamed at all He does deserve it Can't be remitted He was just looking for death I have no choice I have to kill No one can judge me at all Hutong Saxophone [1]"Son of a turtle" = similar to son of a bitch in English [2] "DiDi" = A company provides taxi service in China. Similar to "Uber". [3] "Hell wedding" = Finding a mate for the dead person who is not married. The mate should be dead as well.
@qingyan1583
@qingyan1583 6 жыл бұрын
I really wish Margaret Atwood could see this with translation, we might get another great speculative fiction much darker than The Handmaid's Tale out of this.
@lolzzzism
@lolzzzism 6 жыл бұрын
agreed, there should be a similar novel written in the setting of modern China! it'll be a great hit
@陀螺徒长也好
@陀螺徒长也好 6 жыл бұрын
Qing Yan Ironically, the short film was banned in China.
@mizuke_ika
@mizuke_ika 6 жыл бұрын
有英语大佬做个字幕吗
@faharmoran6309
@faharmoran6309 6 жыл бұрын
@@mizuke_ika 我翻成了英文的但是打轴废,而且原作者炸号了不知道怎么要授权
@mizuke_ika
@mizuke_ika 6 жыл бұрын
​@@faharmoran6309 不知道可不可以直接用ytb的字幕功能?
@caroline6490
@caroline6490 6 жыл бұрын
中国现实里受威胁的姑娘们要是也这干脆就好了,翻唱的特别好,越听越难受(;_;)
@随便起一个名字
@随便起一个名字 6 жыл бұрын
Yi Guo 现实中都是女性被骚扰被杀害😰
@包米奇
@包米奇 6 жыл бұрын
从妹子的角度来说,我不希望她这么干脆,因为要坐牢。但这种报复背后映射的是光靠法律已经没有办法保护女性了。
@sophielu3998
@sophielu3998 6 жыл бұрын
宁见法官不见法医
@XMEZChorus
@XMEZChorus 6 жыл бұрын
听的鸡皮疙瘩 改编太棒了
@mirandawang3193
@mirandawang3193 6 жыл бұрын
微博上看了一边立马再来KZbin看一遍 改的太好了 惊艳
@rodanl383
@rodanl383 6 жыл бұрын
天朝全网下架我也是服气了~
@qiwei3058
@qiwei3058 6 жыл бұрын
这个视频做的也太棒了吧!!!完美本土化。赞美的同时不仅遍体生寒,毕竟这都是活生生的发生过的事情!!!
@guozili1028
@guozili1028 6 жыл бұрын
太棒了!就怕這裡沒有
@safirgratistillit87
@safirgratistillit87 6 жыл бұрын
其实想知道下这里评论的一般是男性还是女性?在某乎某瓣看到的很多意见,都说这是田园女权,其实我感觉这个音乐剧翻唱得很好,艺术上很棒,说矫枉过正偏激的,也许的确带有一点那样的色彩,可是怎么说呢,被压迫到极点还要求别人和你和谈采取合法行动,这不太可能吧,而且当法律没完善到足以保护真正受害者的时候。
@biancazhang2541
@biancazhang2541 6 жыл бұрын
“中国人的性情是总喜欢调和折中的,譬如你说,这屋子太暗,须在这里开一个窗,大家一定不允许的。但如果你主张拆掉屋顶他们就来调和,愿意开窗了。 ” 对付他们非矫枉过正不可
@随便起一个名字
@随便起一个名字 6 жыл бұрын
男性恼羞成怒的时候,就骂:你这个田园女权!为什么男人没有田园男权?不用,这个社会都是他们的
@12goalkeeper79
@12goalkeeper79 6 жыл бұрын
@@biancazhang2541 精辟
@panfangjia2218
@panfangjia2218 6 жыл бұрын
我觉得田园女权这个词,已经完全可以不用在乎了。有些男人一见女权就面红耳赤急头白脸,嚷着你这是田园女权(biao)。实际呢,矫枉过程中势必过正,他们心中男人犯的错都是情有可原有理可依,女人但凡有一些反抗的动作就会让他们急得跳脚,大声指责。
@aloisiacat9
@aloisiacat9 6 жыл бұрын
知乎是直男癌重灾区啊
@爸爸中国是你
@爸爸中国是你 6 жыл бұрын
这个是天朝渣男图鉴,又不是天朝男人图鉴……呵呵一群人开始跳脚了
@nanz280
@nanz280 6 жыл бұрын
其实吧,我当时只是觉得挺好听的,倒也没想特别多,听几次也就算了。但某些逼别人闭嘴的强硬做法倒是让我有一种,嘿呀,老子还偏偏就是要听,就是要认真的听认真的思考认真的解读。
@leslieyue7800
@leslieyue7800 6 жыл бұрын
撒比滴滴现在的处理速度还真快呢
@xw6603
@xw6603 5 жыл бұрын
真的出事的时候倒没这么急着处理过,呵呵
@RORO-ln4oi
@RORO-ln4oi 6 жыл бұрын
也不知道B站还能顶多久,还好被传到这里了
@yunfeiwang2316
@yunfeiwang2316 6 жыл бұрын
b站已经搜不到了。。。
@rosarah7592
@rosarah7592 6 жыл бұрын
yunfei wang qq空间还有
@taotao8372
@taotao8372 6 жыл бұрын
B站搜关键字搜不到 但是排行榜上还有的
@sumiuxia6393
@sumiuxia6393 6 жыл бұрын
B站搜不到了 UP都被屏蔽了
@yuema7470
@yuema7470 6 жыл бұрын
已经顶不住了
@sandrawu9325
@sandrawu9325 4 жыл бұрын
最近一直想找这首歌,感觉比原版词更好,可能是更贴近生活吧。绝了,致敬所有参与制作的姐妹!
@taotao8372
@taotao8372 6 жыл бұрын
专门翻过来支持一波!滴滴这一波真是魔幻现实了
@jocelynzhang355
@jocelynzhang355 Ай бұрын
2024年和朋友看过芝加哥,想推荐这个给她一起看,内网似乎翻不到,还以为自己记忆错乱了。结果墙内没有了,还好这里还有
@carolz5019
@carolz5019 6 жыл бұрын
更加血淋淋、卻也是真實的。
@leiwang9489
@leiwang9489 6 жыл бұрын
从B站过来支持
@yuechen824
@yuechen824 6 жыл бұрын
哇这么快被传过来了!
@jo1909
@jo1909 6 жыл бұрын
宁见法官不见法医哦^_^
@jorisu
@jorisu 6 жыл бұрын
☺️小姐姐好看又有才!疯狂打call!!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@faharmoran6309
@faharmoran6309 6 жыл бұрын
昨天把这个视频的歌词激情翻译成了英文,B站的视频我也留了个1080p的版本,但是时间轴真是太难做了,而且原作现在直接炸号了,翻译授权上也存在问题
@ellensun2688
@ellensun2688 6 жыл бұрын
Lesley Woon 你可以等等看她的号会不会恢复再咨询她授权~辛苦啦!
@waitinglee4321
@waitinglee4321 6 жыл бұрын
还有个号:徒有琴音乐剧,可以私信试试
@faharmoran6309
@faharmoran6309 6 жыл бұрын
Melodic WM 上午问了还没回,字幕已经做好压出来了
@寒漪-b5e
@寒漪-b5e 6 жыл бұрын
可以去微博问问她工作室的伙伴们,看能不能联系上,指路微博@平行世界工作室
@piksmake580
@piksmake580 6 жыл бұрын
徒有琴还有一个微博账号,头像和原来的一样。可以搜索到
@gewu5896
@gewu5896 6 жыл бұрын
太有才华了!
@yuchenliao2532
@yuchenliao2532 6 жыл бұрын
最重要的还是保护好自己呀,实在没得选时,宁见法官,别见法医。
@iristsune331
@iristsune331 6 жыл бұрын
幸好这里还有,天朝的图鉴比芝加哥丰富多了,估计原作者看了都要掉下巴
@perry10182003
@perry10182003 Жыл бұрын
原作芝加哥這首歌的幾個女人,除了一個因為言語不通真的被冤枉,其他也是自豪的罪犯,電影的基調也沒認為那些被殺的男人有多十惡不赦死有餘辜
@itsluthien1063
@itsluthien1063 6 жыл бұрын
还好被传到油管了,国内所有视频音乐软件全部被封,原作者微博账号被整个清除,魔幻现实主义
@safirgratistillit87
@safirgratistillit87 6 жыл бұрын
另外就是转移讨论重点,有的人会这样转移,“如果把主角性别对换你们就又是另一态度了”,首先讨论重点并不是这个,这样转移注意力,是给稻草人靶子吧?!另外,承认女性收到侵害不等同否认了某些女性的确有green tea拜金等特征,可是深入分析,当一个女性用性资源去换取其他社会资源是,是不是可以讨论下她们这么做的原因,排除了个人品质因素后,这个社会在资源分配不合理处能不能引入思考范畴?我的答案是肯定的。此外,女权我认为在实质上是平权,不仅仅是性别,其属于弱势群体追求权力平等的范畴,现在很可怕的是,女权一提出来就有人批,有人冷嘲热讽,每个运动都有不成熟的一面,可是不能否认其核心的价值,有的成员也许言论不够成熟甚至在仔细推敲后会觉得这不能属于平权范畴,可是,至少她/他意识到自身被压迫的事实,懂得起来抗争。这是很了不起的,浑浑噩噩睡了一辈子的人很多,愿意从matrix里醒来看看现实残酷的人却很少,因为这意味放弃美好,即使那是幻梦一场。
@buyiyoung5836
@buyiyoung5836 6 жыл бұрын
我明白故事初衷反应的是男女关系地位,不过这个视频不合适的地方不是明显因为教唆杀人再加无半分惭愧之类的话吗?
@safirgratistillit87
@safirgratistillit87 6 жыл бұрын
不认为这个算得上是真正意义上的教唆,我认为更多的是一种表达手法,艺术上的夸张。毕竟原版更甚.we r not babies。指责教唆者第三人效果太明显了
@shuyouchen1991
@shuyouchen1991 6 жыл бұрын
微博过来的 顶
@yeyachen8676
@yeyachen8676 6 жыл бұрын
这个最高清,感谢上传
@yanruyang3704
@yanruyang3704 6 жыл бұрын
微博上看到,過來讚一下
@ashleyjiang1333
@ashleyjiang1333 6 жыл бұрын
这个词改编的真棒!
@MG-tp9hf
@MG-tp9hf 6 жыл бұрын
这个太厉害了。真di
@yunzhuzhang2936
@yunzhuzhang2936 6 жыл бұрын
希望有英文翻译,让这个视频传播地更远!
@吴吴-m5w
@吴吴-m5w 6 жыл бұрын
九个点了踩的人绝了
@ss-wl6zv
@ss-wl6zv 6 жыл бұрын
谢谢上传
@shanghainesetv3992
@shanghainesetv3992 6 жыл бұрын
這麼快就有人上傳了!!!
@xinyanli5238
@xinyanli5238 6 жыл бұрын
自己的渣翻!有的唱段直接复制了原版音乐剧里的,实在太难翻,尽力了。 Alley Saxophone Son of turtle Ridesharing Floor fourteen She’s asleep Now, the six merry murderesses, in their statement of…the exhaustive experiences of scums. Alley Saxophone Son of turtle Ridesharing Floor fourteen She’s asleep *4 He had it coming He had it coming He only had himself to blame If you’d have been there If you’d have seen it I betcha you would have done the same! My husband is a humorous man, I married him because he can make me happy. One day, I found a notebook that he was using. Though I couldn’t believe he is such an old-school, that’s fine with me and I kinda like it. But after I flipped the notebook, I found he categorized all the women that he slept with, in it. Precisely. Guess how he categorized them? Addresses. Alleys! Hat alley is who likes to be on top, Juer (meaning: chrysanthemum, alluded as as**ole in mandarin) alley is who likes to be at the bottom. Can you believe it? For me, he wrote in the last page, with a black cross on it, dead end. Yes, DEAD END. Huh, of course, dead-end matches with a DEAD man. He had it coming He had it coming He only had himself to blame If you’d have been there If you’d have seen it I betcha you would have done the same! I met him in a café. He is such a talented saxophone player. I was enchanted by him. Everyone told me he is a prince-charming. After we married, he even beats me with his saxophone to keep his mien. Sick. Not only he used the saxophone to hit me smoothly, well…it was easy to wipe the blood on it. Who am I to judge? My sweetie is so gorgeous, I cannot fall behind. So, I had to let him feel the beat of saxophone, on his neck. Bang. Pleasing than saxophone blowing. He had it coming He had it coming He only had himself to blame If you’d have been there If you’d have seen it It was a murder but not a crime! We married for five years but we still have no children. After we went to the hospital it turned out to be my husband’s problem. He didn’t want a divorce. Of course, we loved each other these years. I suggested adopting a child. He agreed. I was so glad that I can be a mother. But my husband he never called the child by his name. He always called my child son of a turtle. He said: "he is not my child." One day when I came back from work, I saw my baby is in the bathtub, face down. I rushed to the bathroom and grabbed my baby, the poor little one is gone. My husband was laughing and said, son of a turtle should be underwater. And then I drowned my husband. Jialing River is good enough for him to be underwater. If you’d have been there If you’d have seen it I betcha you would have done the same! My boyfriend loves to watch Young and Dangerous when he was a student, then he became one of them. I said we should break up, but he begged me, said he will make a change and find a real job. I decided to give him a second chance. We lived in a small flat on floor fourteen. One day he came back in haste and squeezed a bag into the closet. Then he changed a new SIM card and made a phone call in the bathroom. I heard something. He said, “Floor fourteen, yes, floor fourteen.” He went out hurriedly after the phone call. I never saw him again. The police came after he left, told me that they received an anonymous report. “Someone called that you have hide drugs here.” They said, “On floor fourteen.” Thanks to ridesharing app. We met each other again after broke up. He’s the driver and I’m the passenger. He and his ramshackle car waited downstairs at my place every day after the encounter. He smiled at me and said, “Ridesharing, merrily marrying.” Every day. Every, single, day! He even got my number which I don’t know how, and he kept on harass and intimidate me. I called the police. But he was released after three days detention. In the third month, he said he will f**k me to death in his car. So, I poured gasoline on his car. I smiled at him, who was tied on the driver’s seat, and said: “Ridesharing, self-murdering.” He had it coming He had it coming He only had himself to blame If you’d have been there If you’d have seen it It was a murder but not a crime! *2 My daughter is my third child, she was born in winter. One day, she was sleeping, close to her dad on the bed. My daughter often cried at midnight, for milk. I always fed her every night. But that day, my daughter was extremely quiet. So, I asked my husband how’s our daughter, three times. He told me, “She’s asleep, she’s asleep, she’s asleep.” When I woke up, it was early dawn. My husband got up, carried my daughter and went out. Something was wrong and I felt it. I caught up and found my poor baby girl was dead. My husband said the neighboring village spent twenty thousand yuan ($3000) to hold a ghost marriage with our daughter. It was worth the price. The fact was, my daughter was suffocated and murdered by my husband. So, I sent him to attend our daughter’s wedding. The dirty bum, bum, bum, bum, bum He had it coming He had it coming He only had himself to blame If you’d have been there If you’d have seen it It was a murder but not a crime! *2
@mickysung
@mickysung 6 жыл бұрын
上海话那句“xiaqi好听”是特别好听,不是下去好听,字幕错了呢
@zarazhu6008
@zarazhu6008 6 жыл бұрын
去听了原版,觉得改编的很棒。还融合了方言。
@perry10182003
@perry10182003 Жыл бұрын
原版沒想控訴什麼,那幫女人除了一個語言不通真的無辜外,其他人都是試圖狡辯的罪犯,死者也說不上是什麼罪大惡極死有餘辜
@averylee3852
@averylee3852 5 жыл бұрын
一年后再回来看
@safirgratistillit87
@safirgratistillit87 6 жыл бұрын
其实还有一个疑问就是,原版的理由与翻唱版的理由相比,感觉无论是纬度上还是严重程度上,感觉前者更加符合某乎批判的方向?(虽然事实上不应该批,因为感觉以任何道德标准要求艺术表达的做法,都是法西斯主义了)可是翻唱版却艳遇枪林弹雨,实在太吊诡了!我非常倡导理性交往,平等交谈,可是现在的情况是,平台稀缺,话语体系严重不平衡,提出异议却没有可以心平气和讨论的余地,更多的是贴标签讽刺,很讨厌那种“是是是我是渣男…你最棒”之类的口吻,自己先用一种貌似谦和实质是高高在上不屑的态度关闭了交谈的大门。
@rainisheavy6040
@rainisheavy6040 6 жыл бұрын
我个人觉得原版其实争议性不大因为原版是部讽刺剧,讽刺当时芝加哥社会利益至上,娱乐至死的风气,律师为了利益玩弄舆论,帮助有罪者撒谎,操纵陪审团让有罪者脱罪,反而是无罪的匈牙利女人因为没钱行贿而被绞死。这只是其中介绍女囚犯罪的一个片段,就是为了表明她们除了匈牙利女人其他全是有罪的。 但是我看知乎上批判的人没人提到过这个,所以他们也许是因为别的原因反对。 对你上面所说的“提出异议却没有可以心平气和讨论的余地”深表同感。说实话,知乎上反对“田园女权”都要成为政治正确了,而且很多时候关于有争议性的话题提出来就会吵,而不是深入地讨论。我个人觉得也许因为大家生活压力大,所以网上发言会趋于无逻辑性。 (PS: 我觉得翻唱版被禁太正常了,凡是有关于私刑的话题在政府看来都是敏感话题。)
@rainisheavy6040
@rainisheavy6040 6 жыл бұрын
然后就艺术性而言,我觉得翻唱版有几个方面可以做的更好(不过是和专业性强的原版比),一个是我觉得妆画得对于我来说有点出戏。浓妆个人觉得有点不伦不类,没能很好地表现不同角色的性格和阶层。然后服装……有点廉价感(我以前演出的服装也很廉价,估计都是因为经费不够吧TAT)。然后其实我比较喜欢原版的那个抽丝巾的情节,就是红丝巾代表有罪,白丝巾代表被冤枉,这里没有有点可惜TAT。 话说我觉得表演者的表情很生动,当开始看的时候有点吓着我了。
@rainisheavy6040
@rainisheavy6040 6 жыл бұрын
关于以道德标准要求艺术表达都是法西斯主义这点,我不能完全同意。当然我觉得这部作品而言其实是没问题的,但是谈到法西斯,有一个我特别喜欢的导演莱妮·里芬斯塔尔就是为法西斯主义拍摄《意志的胜利》等作品,鼓吹雅利安人至上。二战后许多人都对此鄙视她,因为她的作品是为法西斯服务的,您如何看呢?
@safirgratistillit87
@safirgratistillit87 6 жыл бұрын
谢谢你的科普,学习了。被禁其实在意料之中,不过我个人可能还是抱有一丝幻想吧。您提到的私刑,的确,这是个不应该被倡导或者说提及的话题。但是,我个人还是觉得这里说的杀杀杀之类的私刑,很大程度上我认为是一种表达手法,是一种被逼上绝路无奈的控诉罢了,不可否认语言会产生鼓动力量,但是如果因为这个原因就把很多比如血腥暴力的内容消除,我不认为这是一个很好的方法。越来越有种感觉,面对争议性话题,或者边缘话题,态度不应是简单地屏蔽封杀,要消除邪恶我一直认为首先要认识它们。
@safirgratistillit87
@safirgratistillit87 6 жыл бұрын
政府的担忧的确有其道理所在,我能理解,可以说这是家长制的风格,而家长制,只要有政府存在,家长制都如幽灵萦绕,不管是国内还是国外。虽然不认为政治体制有普遍性的模板,但是,只要是涉及政治,某些性质特征是共享的,个人认为不以国界差异而有所区别
@jesseway3940
@jesseway3940 5 жыл бұрын
我看个中国人翻拍的没有任何违规的视频还得翻墙出来看,挺可笑的。
@sophiazheng4091
@sophiazheng4091 6 жыл бұрын
现在已经发展成 滴滴举报修改后再发 原作者微博炸号 b站上传被删
@dreamyshaw8205
@dreamyshaw8205 5 жыл бұрын
总而言之一句话,望女性面临绝境的时候谨记宁见法官 不见法医
@tk19910830
@tk19910830 6 жыл бұрын
願罪人一切下場成真
@小飞宋
@小飞宋 5 жыл бұрын
QQ音乐现在可以听到了,腾讯真的刚,这次我顶腾讯
@MG-ui6in
@MG-ui6in 6 жыл бұрын
Ha. True stories.
@orangefan759
@orangefan759 6 жыл бұрын
虽说极其反感不认同歌曲里渣就能随便杀,而且没有惭愧的这种价值观(这世界就不需要法律了)。但全网封杀不是更过分么····
@hebo479
@hebo479 4 жыл бұрын
握爪,一样
@songsong9701
@songsong9701 6 жыл бұрын
这他妈的反应速度真的比第一位更加干脆。
@ziyueli4637
@ziyueli4637 6 жыл бұрын
听得起鸡皮疙瘩
@momoxia1134
@momoxia1134 6 жыл бұрын
支持
@梁丫-c3k
@梁丫-c3k 6 жыл бұрын
希望能出一个英文字幕
@user-ql9tx8oy4b
@user-ql9tx8oy4b 6 жыл бұрын
B站和微博都挂了。他们说现在也只有这里能看到,真的丧
@Melody850506
@Melody850506 6 жыл бұрын
微博一直有轉到我頁面上,可是每次看都是被舉報的XDD終於看到了
@daisyshan6891
@daisyshan6891 6 жыл бұрын
魔幻现实
@summerzhong241
@summerzhong241 6 жыл бұрын
看得好……感动?还有这几个妹子真是太漂亮了……
@吳忠曉
@吳忠曉 6 жыл бұрын
這裡面只有一個妹子
@summerzhong241
@summerzhong241 6 жыл бұрын
吳忠曉 刚发现了!真是太厉害了!
@ChenxiLong-m7d
@ChenxiLong-m7d 6 жыл бұрын
想看的时候b站没有了,还好youtube上传了。
@yann8593
@yann8593 6 жыл бұрын
原版的小姐姐们因为一些小的不尊重就会为自己站起来特别A,而天朝的姑娘们居然可以忍到这种程度才杀人,哎
@Victoria-vn4xl
@Victoria-vn4xl 6 жыл бұрын
看哭了
@jiananlee5482
@jiananlee5482 6 жыл бұрын
张爱玲当年写的英文小说还被编辑质疑说中国会有那么坏的人吗?现在看来还不少
@shiyuw209
@shiyuw209 6 жыл бұрын
B站上的视频被删了,评论也被情况,豆瓣上渣男原型帖子也删了。当真魔幻,不得不服
@eeso8997
@eeso8997 6 жыл бұрын
油管真是个好东西!!(废话x
@Reticent34
@Reticent34 6 жыл бұрын
希望這裡能存活久一點,畢竟另一端已經全面消失了。
@ephenyan224
@ephenyan224 6 жыл бұрын
个人认为,男声开场词若是改下介绍下背景(讲这几个女人是监狱死囚啥的,介绍自己为什么犯罪),不介绍的话会让不了解《芝加哥》的人有些懵。当然这样的话,标题也不对应了。
@nanjiang7245
@nanjiang7245 5 жыл бұрын
改编的好
@yuanfeiai7398
@yuanfeiai7398 6 жыл бұрын
@lingnadai4182
@lingnadai4182 5 жыл бұрын
太厉害!!!!太棒了,迷上作者了,可惜被封了,在哪里还能有机会看到作者的佳作呀?
@C5Dynamite
@C5Dynamite 6 жыл бұрын
哈哈 還蠻好笑的
@MarioCavolo
@MarioCavolo 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing...太好了!! Mario, 沈阳
@yeehomlee
@yeehomlee 6 жыл бұрын
這竟然是同一個女的,有點贊。
@lolzzzism
@lolzzzism 6 жыл бұрын
genius
@刘淑涵-q2s
@刘淑涵-q2s 6 жыл бұрын
原作者的微博主页已经被炸了,节哀
@cyke2223
@cyke2223 6 жыл бұрын
希望不只是在歌裡,在現實裡這些人也真的死透才好 反正都是人渣,本來就沒活著的價值
@jennychow2053
@jennychow2053 6 жыл бұрын
B站也被和谐了,原作者被炸号,非常魔幻。
@murenmu1652
@murenmu1652 6 жыл бұрын
昨天微博上还能看 刚才搜都被删了…想来这里会有 果然
@a98674
@a98674 6 жыл бұрын
其實我只想問問,為啥龜兒子會被弄死?因為領養小孩是對自己性能力的蔑視還是說覺得是領養的就可以不當生命看呢?
@turpenlan3
@turpenlan3 6 жыл бұрын
为啥?男权思想+心理变态呗。在男权思想的"自我压迫"下,没有生育能力的男性会自视为太监,太监一般都心理变态。
@kavishya3667
@kavishya3667 6 жыл бұрын
微博过来顶了,原博被炸号了🙃
@嘿嘿嘿-j5p
@嘿嘿嘿-j5p 6 жыл бұрын
应该还是滴滴太霸道。
@jinxiche3722
@jinxiche3722 6 жыл бұрын
这视频里有很多我喜欢的元素,爵士、音乐剧(得益于优秀的原作芝加哥),方言(我说标准普通话但我也喜欢和赞美丰富的方言文化),融入社会元素,为那些其实现实中甚至无力反抗付出了生命的无辜女性发出声音……最最最最最可惜的是,能看到这些视频的观众,也许处境还好一些,更多的女性甚至还没来得及看到这个作品就已经被全网删除了。哪怕更多一些机会告诉她们,是的,他们是错的,你有权反抗。我不鼓励诉诸武力和暴力,但不应该连反抗的声音都不允许存在。
@aoiaoifish
@aoiaoifish 6 жыл бұрын
youtube总不能被删了吧呵呵
@sheaxchen
@sheaxchen 6 жыл бұрын
还好这里还有
@shawecho9822
@shawecho9822 6 жыл бұрын
有人有被举报后的修改版么,就是哔哔一下那个,感觉多了点环境下的禁语文化
@ly5007
@ly5007 6 жыл бұрын
点我主页,已经上传了
@shawecho9822
@shawecho9822 6 жыл бұрын
@@ly5007 感谢!
@nothing5798
@nothing5798 6 жыл бұрын
Après le 6 novembre15h35, les femmes travaillent gratuitement. 从2018年11月6日15点35分起,法国女性无薪工作直至年末,因为法国女性平均工资比男性低23.7%,每年这个时候新闻媒体都会报道,而在国内呢?有多少人关注这些女性权益?女性平均素质越来越高却并没有得到相应的社会回报,几千年被侮辱被损害的弱势群体主要组成部分就没改变过。
@TheSherry181818
@TheSherry181818 5 жыл бұрын
第一个没看懂 是之前睡的那么多女的还是婚后出轨?
@団子-d3x
@団子-d3x 6 жыл бұрын
在油管应该不会被删了吧
@李魚-n3v
@李魚-n3v 6 жыл бұрын
十四樓那個… 請問女孩子沒吸毒,她最後應該沒事吧?QAQ
@人士吃瓜
@人士吃瓜 6 жыл бұрын
李魚 这其实类似于一种无解的栽赃方式,很多贩毒的人自己本身也不吸毒,屋子里还有物证,房主又是妹子本人,在没有其他证据又抓不到她男朋友的情况下,只能认为是她了。
@人士吃瓜
@人士吃瓜 6 жыл бұрын
李魚 贩毒的话,按照大陆的法律,两包足够判死了,就算有疑点,从轻也是无期了。
@biancazhang2541
@biancazhang2541 6 жыл бұрын
是被陷害入狱了,就像原版音乐剧里那个匈牙利女人一样
@linglingshen5739
@linglingshen5739 6 жыл бұрын
我也希望她没事 难道这个都证明不了了吗 太难过了
@闷声大发财-r3f
@闷声大发财-r3f 6 жыл бұрын
大陆抓贩毒很严, 贩毒要抓到现行,要有上下家。只要女方咬出男方,只要不结案,这女的就暂时没有事。以前也有被诬陷藏毒,最后无罪释放的先例(某空姐)
@DEAR-LONG
@DEAR-LONG 5 жыл бұрын
极端也是个别的。。。。
@咋回事啊
@咋回事啊 6 жыл бұрын
我就想看豆瓣的那个 真实事件
@嘉然今天吃屁
@嘉然今天吃屁 3 жыл бұрын
现在流行女性乘客坐滴滴爆金币了,看你们不知道说一下。建议出一个渣女应该被杀的话剧对冲一下。
我告诉你女孩子一生都要害怕些什么
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