TIER LIST | iOS Groovebox Music Apps | haQ attaQ

[@JakobHaq]

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[@bridgerhouston4131]

pro tip : watch movies on kaldroStream. Been using it for watching lots of of movies these days.

[@kristopherbriggs6378]

@Bridger Houston Yup, been watching on Kaldrostream for years myself :)

[@areality40]

Jakob, your videos on these iPad music apps are a constant reminder of the creative possibilities I neglect to check out because I'm always using either Figure, iKaossilator, Gadget, Caustic or even the old ReBirth on my iPad or Reason or Ableton on my PC. Your reviews open up endless insight and inspiration for me about these useful apps, and I plan to purchase the ones in this list that I don't already have. I also like your methods in making your videos, inserting neat little transitions and odd humor and even outtake material. Good work! LONG LIVE FIGURE! I love Beatonal and I'll be getting that one soon for sure!!! Thanks again!

[@Nik.leonard]

Is funny that Caustic is more "Reason Compact" than Reason Compact.

[@JakobHaq]

😂

[@psychrockvinyl]

ha

[@Nik.leonard]

Is like saying that Grooverider is more Electribe than even the hardware Electribe 2 (and I have both).

[@MusicHands]

🤣

[@AdamsBrew78]

Korg Gadget is probably the closest to Reason on iOS though - as new “racks” are still being added from time to time, and some by Propellerhead. Reason Compact was one of the few apps I sincerely regretted buying. Their iOS development team has gone downhill since the amazing Thor :(

[@iamunknownking]

I’d be very interested in seeing a video showing off your Drambo groovebox, how you made it, and why it’s your “dream groovebox”. Lately I’ve been frustrated at the fact that the features I love in iOS music making apps seems to be spread across multiple apps and that I haven’t found my ideal “one stop shop” solution. I’ve been making sketches and looking to learn coding so as to make this solution myself, but I’d love to see if I would be able to build my ideal solution in Drambo.

[@TheAlfahDj]

Drambo + AUM + Synthmaster 2 + koala is all I have ever needed. Mind you, I also need korg gadget for some piano, but dont use it often.

[@jantuitman]

I like groove boxes so I already own at least 5 - 10 of these, but there were also lots of them I never saw before.... My definition of a good iOS Groovebox is: 1. You can step sequence patterns very quickly. 2. You can build an arrangement from the patterns. 3. You have access to both drums and synths. I would really like to do the scoring but I am afraid this is a bit too much work at the moment, because it will take quite some time before I tested out all the ones I never saw before.

[@MusicHands]

Good definition

[@janedoe1787]

I would put ampifys groovebox above reason compact for the main reason of when you select preset in groovebox it starts playing a loop instead of reasons having to build it first. Just my opinion.

[@seazenbones6945]

Gadget is a banging Groovebox and much, much more. Enjoyed the video

[@janedoe1787]

Lists are great when we are looking at the same category of products. Keep up the good work!

[@mgo8897]

2:50 Gadget’s ‘Zurich’ (and its other audio gadgets) are not IAPs. They are included in the base app.

[@soysos.tuffsound]

Glad to see you give some love to Drambo! I've been getting deeper into an ios creative practice and Drambo is becoming my ultimate beat box. You're right tho, you've got to build it and that can be a good thing for some. I'd love to have a look at "Haq Box", is that what you called it? I tried to get into the Elektron RYTM ll and I think Drambo covers that territory instead for me without the button combos that I couldn't seem to keep track of. Plus the great samplers, unlimited signal chains, logic, random, probability, plus plus plus...... At present I'm just trying out different concepts and dreaming up different little mini machines to run inside the app. Still has a few bugs that keep popping up and the promised inclusion of Link will be a huge plus. I'm down for it!

[@tompoynton]

always love a badman ting interlude

[@portwain]

This is a great video for me now as I am thinking of buying Novation Circuit and thinking if I really need it.

[@pongtrometer]

Gr8 vid, love the tier display and rating system...

[@nickneek]

Hey nice video. Can’t you share your Haqbox Drambo patch? I thought there was a site where people can upload patches... Who wouldn’t want to try out your dream groove box?

[@walrtbstudios5430]

I like the concept. Like your recent vocoders and shimmers vids, it reminds me what I’ve got, shows me what I could have, and stops me spending money on stuff I shouldn’t. Not a review but sort-of like a review. Keep ‘em coming I say. DAWs next perhaps?

[@T0dK0n]

Nice! Pleased Grooverider GR-16 is in the s tier. My most used groovebox app on iOS. I’d personally put Drambo in s tier as well. Nanoloop was the only app I thought was missing from the list at all, I’d put it in P.

[@viridisvir7077]

Heck yes, +1 for GR-16. The sound quality of the synthesis engine sets it apart from a lot of apps.

[@troyouttram]

Great recap mate this is a super handy resource for old and new comers to the iOS platform.

[@SyntheticSan]

Thank you for the vid. Nice one. Just two things: Bleass just provides a clean interface but this clean interface is a flow killer since you have to do lot of menue diving for changing every parameter. Than all these forth- and backwards in the menue. Every clever UX designer knows, things must happen on one screen and not in the 2. or 3rd screen and then going all the way back again. The other case is: Reason can‘t do many things just as the Ampify Groovebox does so I would not place Reason at the same position as Ampify Groovebox. But yeah, just my personal view. Big like for your work ✌️

[@JakobHaq]

Thank you so much for your praise and for yo thorough feedback on B.GB! 👊🏼

[@SyntheticSan]

Jakob Haq ❤️

[@JamieMallender]

Dude! This is a lot of fun. But, you missed out BeatHawk and iSpark. I ignored BeatHawk for years, because that beat maker type of workflow never appealed to me. Tried it, loved it, use it all the time, can’t live without it. iSpark is very out of date but is still superior to some things that made your list. I don’t have many Groovebox apps but I’ll do my list now. :)

[@JakobHaq]

That’s why they didn’t end up in this list. I would however put them in an MPC Sampler TierList though! 👍🏼

[@JamieMallender]

Jakob Haq I get you - I don’t have any experience with the MPC thing at all, it’s not my background - yet I’ve found those apps really useful. The Tier List idea is fascinating - a DAW one would be amazing - Cubasis 2 at the top, 3 at the bottom. 😂

[@larrybanks8435]

All love no hate you already got your answers!! Let’s keep this series going!!!!!!!!!! 🔥

[@SEONNTHAPRODUCER]

Whoa, thank you for this video. Adding this to my Groovebox playlist. Guess I'm getting Caustic, haha.

[@kurisuchiinathecrocodile333]

Thanks for video. Found some new names :)

[@williamolsen20]

Gadget is kind of a DAW almost. I love it, but it is a little hard to define.

[@danstainback4208]

Would be cool to do this with the midi sequencers/arpeggiators. Like Fugue Machine, Thesys, Autony, Modstep, Xynthesizer 2, etc.

[@JakobHaq]

Good tip! 👍🏼

[@laurenlewis5945]

Superb Job, appreciate you sharing 😉 👍

[@j.veroni]

Many of my favourites in this list! 😎

[@rrrobart9]

Yo Jakob! You got me again brother! Picked up Pure Acid and Drambo, going to get GR 16 as well. But I’m wondering if you’ve ever used a Pure Acid as a multiout? I cannot figure out how to make it work!? It says it’s got 5 outputs but I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. Any advice?

[@JakobHaq]

Hey! This is the video you’re looking for 👍🏼 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ7CnpdqebKrY9E

[@iosmusicman]

I have a “tear list” for all the apps I have bought, haven’t used or haven’t even mastered the basics of. It all changes on December 31 when my main work comes to an end. Great stuff as usual Jakob. Cheers. Lee

[@iosmusicman]

@Lureeality 🎶🎵 advice from my bank manager Leela 😹

[@3stig]

Thanks Jakob 👍🏼

[@GeorgeL909]

I'm kinda interested in making my own custom groovebox in Drambo now. A dreambox? Drambox? Dreambo? Drambo is such an inspiring but dense program from someone with little to no modular experience. I would love to see a walkthrough of your Drambo setup. You don't have to put too much effort into the vid, just a "this is what I did" kind of thing. (Edit: comment on the wrong vid initially, apologies)

[@JakobHaq]

Stay tuned!

[@Markrspooner]

Great tiered list Haq, but surely Drambo is a super groovebox?

[@LesProductionsZvon]

Fun video, I would watch some others tier videos! I have a few of theses apps so I may have to check out the others. I would add VirSyn iSyn Poly to the list.

[@JustinThomasProducer]

I forgot to ask you a realy important question. How do you record an AUE to middi within AUM ? Do you have a video for that ?

[@andrewlincoln9766]

It may of already been mentioned, MINT (Music In No Time) was missing. It’s iPad only but could go in the super groove box category.

[@MusicHands]

EXCELLENT review man, sure loads of people will find this useful.... "Bad Man Ting"

[@robertnakoneczny6609]

Great video as always. Thanks for reminder to buy GR-16 I’ve totally forgot. Maybe do videos once a month I don’t want to spend much money or maybe I do ,maybe I’m a idiot. Just do your best. Thanks for honest tier, well done.

[@psychrockvinyl]

love this video and the tier concept!

[@MusicHands]

Likewise!

[@phiradio]

Can you share the drambo haq box project

[@StefanBoeykens]

You haven’t fully explained your definition of what you consider a groovebox… is it the mixture of sequencing with non linear timeline? Do you need a sampler? Can it be synth-only? Do you need MIDI or Link or multi-track recording? Or is it more open ended?

[@Tripn]

Can you do a tier list of mobile daws?

[@jimpavloff]

Love you, man! LOL 🤣🤣)))

[@JakobHaq]

Love you to bro! ❤️

[@Michael_Lak]

Beatonal. I’m speechless. My new favourite app.

[@JakobHaq]

Happy you found something you could use!

[@simonchristian2264]

I am a huge fan of IOS-Grooveboxes. In case I missed one... now I have the complete list :-) Thank you Jakob! Rebirth is still on my iPad... and most of the others you've mentioned, too. Most of the time I try to figure out how GR16 works. Haha...

[@JakobHaq]

Yeah I’ve got ReBirth on two devices here. I’m so afraid that I’m gonna accidentally delete them or something. 😅

[@simonchristian2264]

Jakob Haq that would be a great loss! ☺️ keeping my fimgers crossed that this won "t happen 😎👍

[@MrDakti]

Jakob Haq Hi Jakob, I know there is no more Rebirth in AppStore for new users and it work only on older devices because of 32 bit, but If someone accidentally deleted Rebirth from iPad, can't it be downloaded again by person who bought it? Apple should keep that possibility for their users who paid for it IMHO. Please do not try this to not lose software :) I'm just curious. Kind regards.

[@afmfintech]

I’m pretty sure if you bought Rebirth, you can re-download it. Reason Studios still has a developer account, and it is 64-bit compatible. Those are the two main reasons an app becomes unavailable (alas, Alchemy).

[@MrDakti]

Aaron McPherson : Unfortunately I didn't bought Rebirth on iPad :( In the old days I had it on PC. I wonder if is someone here who want to check it, delete Rebirth on iPad in order to download it again :) [If somebody know the result, please let us know :)] As I know it work only on 32 bit iOS system and there was no Rebirth for 64 bit iOS. [Let me know if I am wrong] It's a pity that Roland didn't get along with Propellerhead to leave app in AppStore and the Rebirth was removed. Maybe one day Roland itself will make "Rebirth" (2 x 303 + 808 + 809) for 64 bit iOS. Would be awesome. At least we can still use Rebirth on PC. [although there is probably more fun on the iPad touch screen] As of September 2005 support for ReBirth was discontinued by Propellerhead software and the software became available online as a free download. More info about it on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReBirth_RB-338

[@Alex-of8gr]

Yes ..you can add more on the same row, it will get auto adjusted...

[@JakobHaq]

🤦‍♂️ D O H 🤦‍♂️ Thanks for the tip! 🙏🏼

[@ladyapp-titude]

What about BEATHAWK, Jakob? :)

[@DanielSamulewiczXXI]

Yea, I was scanning the comments to check if someone already asked about BeatHawk. Where you’d put it, Jakob?

[@lmthefirst]

What tier would you place UVI Beathawk?

[@perrypelican9476]

What are the characteristics that define a groovebox. It has to be groovy, but doesn't have to have anything to do with boxes. When did groovy leave the English vocabulary? For a period of maybe 5 years, it was one of the most common words and suddenly it was gone until groove boxes appeared. But they are groove boxes, not necessarily groovy box. Groovy groove box. Ahhhhhh You should do a video on fantastic apps that no one uses, like caustic, zillidrone etc. Why caustic has never become a Gadget is beyond my understanding. It actually has an audio file editor that could be sold on its own for the same price as caustic. Anyway, like usual, I digressed like crazy. Have fun Jakob.

[@timothywhite4060]

Hello Jakob, is their a way to send midi from Groovebox to other apps like music studio? Thanks

[@JakobHaq]

If you’re asking about Ampify Groovebox then no, it can only do MIDI in. It has no MIDI out ability.

[@meinemudda3095]

R/Showerthoughts REBIRTH is the first rare (hard to get) vintage Synthesizersoftware/plugin Its not supergood but its unique

[@joshuagood4237]

As usual another good video. Trouble is it makes me want to buy some of them. 😁👍 although I have got a few of them already... 🙏

[@lesonkitu1]

What about the Yamaha & Dr Pad :)

[@dafingaz]

I have something similar. A tear list 🥺 for all the apps that have come and gone. Like...Flappy Bird...

[@JakobHaq]

Omg! You’re brilliant! That could be an interesting concept for making videos about.

[@dafingaz]

Jakob Haq I would love to see it! Lol. 🙌🏾

[@sokoleski]

I just loove your videos, they make me fukkin happy! This one was no exception, it was extremely thorough and well thought out. Incredibly rewarding to whatch , thank you Jakob ❣️

[@JakobHaq]

Thanks M! ❤️

[@wallbrown1876]

Top vid as always man. I think I go with the bottom tier,especially SunVox.This thing is just limitless.

[@JakobHaq]

It’s also awesome how the dev has made the SunVox code open source for both commercial and non-commercials use.

[@wallbrown1876]

Jakob Haq Totally true my friend and community mas made this huge over the years adding so much content. Also the cross platform capability amazes me. You can start something on phone,send it on the iPad,finish it ion your computer.Or even raspberry pi if you want.Crazy!

[@Valleedbrume]

Nice work Jacob.Not too shabby for a Swede :-)

[@JakobHaq]

😂 Thank you! 🇸🇪

[@AdamsBrew78]

You missed one S-tier groovebox .. Waldorf Attack ... It’s old but sincerely amazeballs. Nothing else sounds like it on iOS.

[@raysubject]

interesting you put into top class GR16 but not Electribe Wave ... surprising for me...

[@JakobHaq]

Don’t take it too seriously. I’m trying to have a bit of fun with this concept. These are all apps that I like.

[@raysubject]

Jakob Haq no no that's ok i know it's just for fun... just was suprised by this move, rest was more or less predictable :-)

[@JakobHaq]

Hey, that’s some good critique. I’ll try to be a bit less predictable with these in the future. More fun that way I think. 👊🏼😉

[@raysubject]

that's not critique... probably just we both have in most case same opinion about those apps ;-)

[@raysubject]

anyway this was cool idea, fun to watch.. looking forward for another videos of this kind ...

[@kingof9x]

korg electribe should be ranked higher. man i wish korg would release a sampler based electribe that is styled like the old electribe hardware

[@H4NDCRAFTED]

This is funny, for me Drambo kills all of these , although I do like Electribe wave. Electribe wave is very cool at making Synth drums.

[@MaEasy_official]

Where is Beathawk? This App is sooo groovy!

[@volt7cooltangs701]

Ah Jacob, why don’t you just FAQ off. Only kidding mate, love your vids. Loved ReBirth. Still have it on my old ipad 2. Had it on PC in ‘98. Blew my mind. Pure Acid is sooo Groovebox, very nice. Figure hmmm I have it but it ain’t a Groovebox.

[@JakobHaq]

Haha! Good one! 💛 Yeah Figure ain’t no Groovebox. Just trying to have some fun with the format. Got some other even more weird and interesting lists coming in the future if people like this. 👊🏼

[@Roboprogs]

No mention of BeatMaker at all?

[@JakobHaq]

Beatmaker is awesome, but it’s not a Groovebox. It’s the best > MPC < style Sampler on the AppStore.

[@dafingaz]

Groovy!

[@tomclemens5345]

oh no, another haq attaq video that’s gonna hurt my wallet

[@JakobHaq]

I’m so sorry! 💋💋

[@hArtyTruffle]

I’m with you there bud. Just bought two more 🤪🤣🤤 just say “NO”.... then go ahead and get them anyway 🤓

[@tomclemens5345]

@@JakobHaq no need to be sorry, got into music making because of you, so THANK YOU!

[@alexandreenkerli9361]

Moar tier lists! Plz?

[@JakobHaq]

Haha! 👊🏼😊

[@MRNOLAB]

i am KORG Gadget Addict fan :) Gadget don't fit on any cases :) the truth is i ve not the money to tryout them all

[@senhorlampada]

Forever Beats, TriqTraq and iMaschine could be possible contenders :)

[@JakobHaq]

Oh yeah, forgot about TriqTraq. Missed foreverbeats. However iMaschine is put in MPC category.

[@senhorlampada]

@@JakobHaq yeah. I gotta admit i was divided about suggesting imaschine. It has the option of drums, melodic insgrhments and voice recording. But it's all sample based

[@Nothingspeshalwaysfresh]

Zillidrone groovebox is missing ;)

[@Nomo_Popo]

Drambo is the shit

[@JakobHaq]

No doubt! 👊🏼😊

[@littlewoodg1]

Strange placement for iELECTRIBE....

[@JakobHaq]

Yeah I was trying to be a bit funny. I guess it didn’t work that well. 😅

[@AdamsBrew78]

iDS-10 originally came out for Nintendo DS - one of a few amazing music production apps you could get for your gaming device!

[@EnriquePage91]

I'd argue that SunVox i simply put a modular synth, but then again... we have Drambo on the list, which is not only a groovebox, but also... a modular synth. So... yeah, I think I MIGHT have used SunVox on my tierlist too! But I totally disagree with your opinion on Drambo. Like, I agree, and then I disagree. I would put it on S tier for sure, ultimately if you know how to use Drambo it is probably the only app on this tierlist *IMO* that is even better than GR-16. Especially considering that it's supposed to EVENTUALLY get a wavetable synthesizer engine, which is essentially the reason I bought GR-16 AFTER getting Drambo. Both GR-16 and Drambo are imo the best apps on this list! That being said, I guess you just put it on S tier cause it's a "weird" groovebox. but it's definitely a groovebox, it's just a groovebox you have to sort of create *like you did*. Super solid video anyway though, and you know what! I might just take you on it and make one today. I'm trying this new OBS setup to do stuff in real-time so I don't have to edit it and therefore be able to post it almost immediately. This seems like a perfect candidate to try it out! EDIT: LMAO the ending of your video! Hahaha literally the same thing I've been looking for since forever. You are gonna have to check my video out... I think it's a pretty rad setup and it's SO good it might be just what you need! XD

[@JakobHaq]

Throw me a link when your video is up!

[@EnriquePage91]

@@JakobHaq dude I know I said it was a fast production and like that is actually very true... I just haven't had time at all because this friday is my deadline for class registration for a masters I just got into. I will post it ASAP and send you the link though! I´d say at this point (it´s close to being done), it probably will take (in total) somewhere around 8 to 12 hours (recording it all, cutting it, editing a bit, a few effects here and there and a few mini jams in the end (which are what will probably add a few hours to my production, otherwise this could have probably been done in 4-6 hours). Considering it´s like a 40-45 mins video, that´s a pretty solid turnaround cycle imo! Too bad i´m having to spread those hours in between little breaks I´m having here and there. I do think this might be just what you need! once I send it to you feel free to let me know if you´d want some help to set it up. I´d be super down to help you out. Cheers bud!

[@tilmanwolff-moore276]

ROTOR?

[@phuturemusic]

🤔🤔

[@stysnappin]

I’ve really been loving Patterning for iPhone…with the MIDI running through BeatHawk when I want to customize the sounds.

[@JakobHaq]

I feel the same way about you bro! ❤️

[@domingoleija3436]

Mosquito 🦟 swat! Team! Sancudo boom boom squashers 4 jakoba $ all is good to like it a lot !🏋🏻‍♀️

[@ticonderogamedium]

❤

[@MultiMam12345]

What is patterning? Its missing🤣

[@JakobHaq]

Well, it’s a drum-sampler. But I’m sure that a creative person, could probably get some Groovebox like action out of it.

[@MultiMam12345]

Jakob Haq Patterning is more a eucledian midi sequencer than a sampler. It does use samples indeed, but it doesn’t sample😜 I wish it did. But i guess it needs internal sound engine to be considered a groove box? Because Pattening definately grooves. I think the term groovebox is probably confusing in general. SynthDrum is probably a better name. I guess thats Rolands fault. Not yours🙌🏻

[@MrDakti]

Rebirth is great the same as Pure Acid. Too bad that Pure Acid has only 1 bass line. My dream is an update by Dmitrij Pavlov for the second bass line. What do you think about that? Pure Acid is the closest successor to Rebirth and If it had 2 bass lines it would be awesome.

[@uyscuti5376]

you are doing Sunvox and Gadget DIRTY

[@BlueMangooSoftware]

Paper Jakob gets replaced by tiny Jakob

[@JakobHaq]

Haha! 👊🏼😂

[@davidjohnhamm]

take a shot every time you hear the word groovebox

[@diemes5463]

I died

[@MrDmitryHammet]

Korg Gadget is not a Daw and almost a groovebox, that hurts😂

[@JakobHaq]

Haha! 💋💋

[@MusicHands]

🤣🥺

[@LeVi-mq1ok]

take a shot every time he says *GROOVEBOX* and you die from alcohol poisoning