tier ranking EVERY figure skating move ever

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Cathy Ding

Cathy Ding

Күн бұрын

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@sophie_jordan
@sophie_jordan Ай бұрын
Love how most of the examples are yuzu and yuna
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
yesss they are the leading examples for so many things
@pri6363
@pri6363 Ай бұрын
cantilever by alexandra trusova is so aesthetic, i can’t believe someone doesn’t like it
@Sh1romi_edits
@Sh1romi_edits Ай бұрын
ikr
@Fatammy
@Fatammy Ай бұрын
I was SHOOOOKK
@glacier_skates
@glacier_skates Ай бұрын
Same I would've put it at the top
@lgt.jne3
@lgt.jne3 24 күн бұрын
Fr
@Hoshimine
@Hoshimine 22 күн бұрын
You missed donut spin, needle spin and I/Y spin which Kamila Valieva does. These spins are so gorgeous
@brendalima5292
@brendalima5292 Ай бұрын
Great video! But I had to come in here and defend the Trusova and Shoma cantilever. Now my job here is done, bye! 😊
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
HAHA yesss feel free to defend your opinions! I can have respect for how difficult the cantilever truly is!
@carbonation-v8x
@carbonation-v8x 26 күн бұрын
I was about to comment this
@lgt.jne3
@lgt.jne3 24 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@laneybobaney7415
@laneybobaney7415 9 күн бұрын
Hard agree
@KellyeR1970
@KellyeR1970 Ай бұрын
The Sasha Cowen spilt jumps are in league all in their own. A timed perfect 180 split jump to the music is probably one of my favorite things....Oh, and I can't leave out Jason Browns split jumps...chefs kiss 🤌
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
Ugh omg yes- Jason Brown's split jumps are everything and his spins
@Marleemunchesontacoz
@Marleemunchesontacoz Ай бұрын
Yuzuru is my idol every move he has lives in my head rent free I love him sm
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 15 күн бұрын
literally rent free
@8BitThoughts
@8BitThoughts Ай бұрын
Ilia's whole performance in the 2024 worlds lives in my head rent free
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
He is indeed quite the insane kid
@lgt.jne3
@lgt.jne3 24 күн бұрын
Quadgod fr 😂
@justkajsa529
@justkajsa529 Ай бұрын
As someone who just recently started taking figure skating lessons this was a great introduction to a lot of moves I didn't know of, or didn't know the name of. Thank you! Fun to hear your opinions on them too 😊
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
Ah!! I'm so glad to hear that! I'm glad this video can provide both entertainment and educational value! (:
@zeborahnz
@zeborahnz Ай бұрын
Sometimes the simplest move done elegantly is just the best. I've been known to rewatch a good bracket or rocker over and over dozens of times, who cares about the quad axel. But one of my enduring favourites is a spread eagle change of edge - either inside to outside or vice versa. I feel like there were a couple of seasons where everyone was doing them and they were glorious, then suddenly everyone was doing knee slides instead which are fine I guess, but I miss the deceptively leisurely swoop of the spread eagle.
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
yesss a good bracket is so satisfying to watch the flow
@ItsAbbyC
@ItsAbbyC 16 күн бұрын
My favorite move that I can do right now is a lutz-loop
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 15 күн бұрын
lutz loop is so hard!! congrats on landing that jump!
@HakuYH
@HakuYH Ай бұрын
Ina Bauer and Hydroblade so beautiful 😍 Yuzu and Junhwan perform them very beautifully and musically 🫶
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 15 күн бұрын
Junhwan's ina bauer is chef's kiss
@eljj7968
@eljj7968 Ай бұрын
I just have to add a gripe that you didn't show Keegan Messing for the hydroblade haha. I'm not a hydroblade fan, but his commitment to getting his whole side of his head on the ice and standing up with ice all in his hair is pretty epic.
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
HAHA too many amazing skaters to show all in one video! But agree that man has an INSANE hydroblade- his commitment to it is A+
@Busyfigureskating
@Busyfigureskating Ай бұрын
How can you not be a hydroblade fan?!
@colletteseders2874
@colletteseders2874 21 күн бұрын
I found your whole video very interesting. I was a competitive skater in the 1960s-1970s. I can tell you were never made to do school figures, and I think you may also not have done much in dance. All those step moves, like c-step, s-step, brackets, counter, loop were used extensively in both dance and school figures. We did an hour of school figures every day of the week. Such a quiet, peaceful time, - just the sounds of the skates on ice. No music, no talking, and each skater had his/her little patch of ice - which is, of course, why it was often referred to at patch. The control we learned in tracing those figures helped us enormously in our dance and free skate routines. Despite your dislike of lutz, toe-loop, and flip jumps, my guess is that you were absolutely thrilled when you first landed one. I vividly remember the first time I attempted a double toe-loop, which we called a cherry flip. Since I am now in my late 60s, jumps are only in my past, or in dreams at night. I still love to skate, and every chance I get, I will do some of the dances: Dutch Waltz, Canasta Tango, Swing, Fiesta Tango. My all time favourite dance has always been the Blues, and I would love to be able to do it again. Sadly, my balance is not reliable enough to do that choctaw without falling. I hope you enjoy every chance you get to skate, to compete, and to take tests, so you will also have wonderful memories when you become a senior citizen.
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@reganlouise3275
@reganlouise3275 25 күн бұрын
The spider lunge has become my signature move in my skating so im slightly salty that it’s ranked so low 😭
@Busyfigureskating
@Busyfigureskating Ай бұрын
Watch Sasha Cohen’s camels!!! So beautifully elegant and so much control and good posture. Also her spirals and split jumps oh and her LAYBACKS…most gorgeous thing ever
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
yesss her extension on everything IS everything
@shelleyc853
@shelleyc853 17 күн бұрын
Haircutter was more like finger cutter for me back in the day. It's funny, the spins I like to watch are very different from the spins I liked(could) do 😅
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 15 күн бұрын
oof truly anything with a blade grab is so hard and lowkey dangerous
@HaveanIcedaymx
@HaveanIcedaymx 25 күн бұрын
I'm here to defend the camel spin and toe loop! I love those and they are two of my stronger moves LOL
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 15 күн бұрын
good on you girl! go slay those camel spin and toe loops!!
@Qiqi_七七
@Qiqi_七七 26 күн бұрын
This is my first time watching one of your videos, and I really enjoyed your commentary on all these elements. For future reference, Evgenia's last name is pronounced kind of like "Med-VIE-di-va" (it's not correct spelling but for pronunciation clarity). Also, 13:55 flying camel done by Kim Yuna in that "Send in the Clowns" program of hers was actually an actual butterfly entry, not the classic "flying camel" spin. I'm pretty sure that both the classic flying camel and the butterfly spin entry that Yuna did are both classified as the same flying spin in IJS, but since the butterfly spin entry is more difficult than the regular one, the butterfly gives better GOE. Sorry for the long essay explanation--basically what I meant was that while the "flying camel" shown would technically be classified as such in the IJS system, it's actually different from the "classic flying camel". Just a suggestion from another viewer, thanks for uploading this video!
@PecanSandees23
@PecanSandees23 Ай бұрын
Because I’m a trivia nut, here are some facts about some of the terms you discussed: Charlotte (pronounce Shar-lot) was invented by Charlotte Oelschlagel (1898-1984) in the 1920s and named after her. Along with her husband, Curt Neumann, they developed the Death Spiral (back outside). Ludmila and Oleg Protopopov (1935-2017 and 1932-2023, respectively) created three additional types of Death Spirals (back inside; forward inside and forward outside which they named the Cosmic Spiral; Life Spiral and Love Spiral). The Cantilever Spread eagle was created by Warner Groebli (1915-2008), who was part of the comedic skating duo Frick and Frack. He was Frick. The Broken Leg Sit Spin was popularized by Toller Cranston (1949-2015) in the 1970s, along with his famous Broken Neck Sit Spin. The Biellman spin was named after Denise Biellman (1962) but she didn’t invent it. In 1981, she was the only skater who could perform it well (her World Championship). It was first performed in the 1965 European Championships by Tamara Moskvina. You can probably see examples of all of these skaters on KZbin. As for just a regular spiral, I vote for Alissa Czisny. Great video Cathy.
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
love! Thank you for all the skating history!!
@yohanes2034
@yohanes2034 Ай бұрын
@@PecanSandees23 it’s interesting that several moves were named after the inventor or who popularized them but some were not and simply called on whatever they look (like dead spiral based on part of skating blade and direction). I’m curious as to what the reason or what is the norm in FS. In gymnastic is based on the person who first perform it in competition but not gonna lie it makes it difficult to remember what is what lol.
@jerichogamara9339
@jerichogamara9339 29 күн бұрын
Yuna’s layover (side camel) is the standard for that position fr. The way both her arms just extend horizontally and her back is parallel to the ice is so elegant and satisfying. Most skaters would put 1 arm extended and the other one near the skating leg and its really ugly😣
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 15 күн бұрын
seriously- I can't fathom looking like that trying to attempt a side camel haha I think I would just look floppy
@jerichogamara9339
@jerichogamara9339 15 күн бұрын
@ I think with a little practice, you can!!🫶🏻🫶🏻
@sso_kartoffel6268
@sso_kartoffel6268 Күн бұрын
Theres a reason for that actually, because those are two different positions😅 the difficult features in the camel depend on the way your shoulders are facing (down, side or up) and most skaters do a side version while yuna kim does an 'up' version. So using her as an example for a side camel doesn't really make sense, but most people don't know theres's a difference😊
@jerichogamara9339
@jerichogamara9339 Күн бұрын
@@sso_kartoffel6268 yeah instead of side camel, the layover camel wouldve been the more appropriate term. In any case I was also referring to the fact that no other skater can pull off that kind of horizontal and open position that Yuna does with her arms during the layover position. The closest is probably when Mao Asada did the variation in the 2008-2009 season, and even hers didnt have both arms equally open and leveled.
@sso_kartoffel6268
@sso_kartoffel6268 Күн бұрын
@jerichogamara9339 i rarely ever see anyone attempt it tbh. the only one i can think of right now would be Junhwan Cha, but he does have a different arm position as well. Especially now with the limit on difficult positions in spins, i don't feel like many skaters are going to attempt it since it's kind of unnecessarily difficult, even though I would love to see more skaters do variations with the shoulders facing upwards. I'm just really frustrated about the new spin rules🥲
@imasleepyburrito
@imasleepyburrito Ай бұрын
I feel the same about the broken leg - I didn't get it at all until I saw my friend do it in person and was like waiiiiiit a minute.....Honestly it might be the same friend hah!
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
I know right! I personally think when the position is less extreme it's quite pretty! I think I like how Loena Hendrickx does her broken leg!
@julys_julia
@julys_julia 3 күн бұрын
This is the first time I came across your channel and definitely will stay here, great job! Also your pronouncination of Russian names is really good, don't worry about that
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Күн бұрын
Thank you so much for watching!! Appreciate it
@VictoriaDefendine
@VictoriaDefendine 25 күн бұрын
I’m a artistic roller skater and I wish I could do all of these moves on roller skates
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 15 күн бұрын
You definitely can!! I know a lot of these moves translate in artistic roller skating!
@VictoriaDefendine
@VictoriaDefendine 8 күн бұрын
@@cathydingg lol. yes ur right! I looked a little deeper into my sport and found out you can do most of these.
@Swiftie_Haunted22
@Swiftie_Haunted22 Ай бұрын
“An Ina Bauer done well - so not when I do it” I felt that 😂🥲
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 25 күн бұрын
It really be like that sometimes🥲
@lcsvlogs313
@lcsvlogs313 21 күн бұрын
I am a national figure skater and my favourite move is a flying camel😊
@PeachyBoris
@PeachyBoris Ай бұрын
Misread the title as “figure skating MOVIES” and now would love for you to watch/react to some. I agree with a lot of your assessments on this tier list! It seems like a lot of people are over the spider lunge, but I love the dramatic look so it’s S tier for me. Also disagree on the camel! I can’t do it and I’m sure it’s hard AF, but I like how it looks on male skaters. Lastly, your beef with toe loop is so funny to me because I prefer it wayyy more over Salchow (but I haven’t learned the other jumps yet so I’m sure the best is to come).
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
HAHA I indeed do have so much beef with the toe loop- and omg that's such a great idea. There's so many figure skating movies and TV shows..
@Duck13e
@Duck13e Ай бұрын
8:48 they… WHAT?!?!?!? HOW DID DI NOT KNOWOWOWW1//1/1/1/1/
@johntousseau9380
@johntousseau9380 Ай бұрын
I hate the A frame spin and refuse to learn it (until my coach makes me). Yes, toe loop sucks. Why was it invented? My coach on broken leg spins a few years ago “that’s a good start. Can you break your leg more?” Brackets look cool when skaters who are not me do them. You forgot the cross foot spin. It’s less common now, but in the 80s it was very popular. It’s insanely difficult to do well. Watch Gary Beacom for a good example of one.
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 15 күн бұрын
oooo good one! the cross foot spin is so difficult
@DefNotAva1
@DefNotAva1 22 күн бұрын
4:07 were I skate we call it a y spiral or a butterfly!
@just_v_woolf
@just_v_woolf Ай бұрын
Ok but this tier list exposed you as an edge jumper and not a toe jumper, like Toeloop in d and sal in a?? crazy choices
@e3ve3_arTS
@e3ve3_arTS Ай бұрын
No one likes toe jumps
@just_v_woolf
@just_v_woolf Ай бұрын
​@@e3ve3_arTS i do 😭
@SquishyJeIIy
@SquishyJeIIy Ай бұрын
I met jason brown and we talk during the summer!! His Russian split is sooo cool in person! (I completely agree with the toe loop💀 I hate it so much)
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
Truly! I can only dream of ever getting a Russian split that beautiful
@SquishyJeIIy
@SquishyJeIIy Ай бұрын
@@cathydingg my skating looks as beautiful as his in my dreams🥲🤧
@Jemma-c6h
@Jemma-c6h 19 күн бұрын
hey! i wanna get into figure skating, im pretty young (not gonna disclose age lol), and i'm wondering if i should start, and where a I should start! help plz!
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 15 күн бұрын
Hi!! I have a video on my channel and it's called the ultimate guide on how to start figure skating where I cover everything from what skates to buy, lessons/coaching, practice time and more! I'll be releasing more videos for beginner skaters soon so subscribe to stay tuned!!
@Jemma-c6h
@Jemma-c6h 15 күн бұрын
@@cathydingg Thank you!
@LittleB2007
@LittleB2007 27 күн бұрын
I get you like Yuzu very much but you could've chosen way better examples for spread eagles and hydroblading
@pidgezz
@pidgezz 28 күн бұрын
i was waiting for your opinion on eulers - they always look incredibly clunky to me lol, very rarely have i seen them executed in a way that doesn’t look like somebody just lost their footing
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 25 күн бұрын
OMG I can't believe I forgot to rank that- maybe it is just so low in my brain I forgot about it lol- but Euler for me will go straight in the D tier. I agree with you, it always looks clunky no matter what!
@soappsophie
@soappsophie Ай бұрын
hii! just wondering, w hat tier list did you use? and if so can you send the link?
@shannonl1343
@shannonl1343 Ай бұрын
Happy birthday! 🎂🎆
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Nice catch on the age change on the intro haha (:
@nospmohtracso
@nospmohtracso Ай бұрын
the pearl spin was not on the list but if it was you would need to create a tier above s because it is the most beautiful thing in all of skating
@cathydingg
@cathydingg 15 күн бұрын
OH YEAH that spin is super niche but is insanity
@paztapiola9854
@paztapiola9854 Ай бұрын
I'm conflicted about camels... I love how they look but I'm terrible at them and most of the time I'm like who invented those???
@sophie_jordan
@sophie_jordan Ай бұрын
hydroblade BETTER be at the top
@strawberrylime33
@strawberrylime33 Ай бұрын
Can u tier rank the ugly new moves that skaters have to do now according to IJS rules? I mean, the "difficult exit out of a spin" is HIDEOUS!!!
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
Omg don't even get me started with the new rules haha
@johntousseau9380
@johntousseau9380 Ай бұрын
The butterfly exit or the weird rock back on your heel as you exit thing?
@BlueButterfly1134
@BlueButterfly1134 Ай бұрын
You're not alone I personally love the lutz
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
Hard to learn but really satisfying to watch/jump once you get it!
@carbonation-v8x
@carbonation-v8x 26 күн бұрын
yes bro all my friends hate them but i love lutzs
@Sunshinebtfly98
@Sunshinebtfly98 Ай бұрын
Favorite that I did well was a camel-jump-back camel or a camel to a layback to a back scratch spin My least was the a frame or the hand assisted spiral ala Nancy Kerrigan My favorite ump is a walley-falling leaf double or triple toe loop and any flip jump I find throws exciting but I really enjoy when a pairs or dance team does twizzles and is super synchronized My former coach was Ronnie Robertson and he taught me the Gus Lussi method of spinning at Paramount Iceland in Southern California. He holds a special place in my heart 💜 What is your favorite move that you do well?
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
I would say my favorite move that I personally feel like I can do is the classic spiral or the layback spin- both of those I feel like are such timeless classics that I always love putting in all my programs!
@gileneusz
@gileneusz 26 күн бұрын
Figure skating is a perfect fit for a girl since it enhances your strength and coordination while showing off your elegance! But you need to be careful about injuries... 👀
@ig_figureskating
@ig_figureskating 29 күн бұрын
WHAAAATTTT I LOVE CANTELIEVERS HAAHHAHAA ❤
@nospmohtracso
@nospmohtracso Ай бұрын
how can you love a classic spiral and not love a classic camel??! hahah no but i love this video
@susannicolari7335
@susannicolari7335 Ай бұрын
Ina Bauer Love it Used to skate with a Girl who did outside spread eagle into double axel into outside double axel and she made me want to jump I was very little .the char lot I remember Michelle Kwan brought it into fame .The cantilever was a comedy move a clown did it in the 50 s not my cup of tea .Hydroblade really just a shoot the duck advanced …Goes in my not cup of tea .Love a traditional lay back ,”love loops in the sequences ,knee slides over done Judges get tired of them on the lower levels as they have 0 meaning in the choreography.How about the split triple twist I love it always wanted to be a pair skater amd I put the twist in the highest tier .A walley jump in a choreography sequence is very cool So many fun moves .I love Aerial moves too amd I love the death spiral the traditional back but the forward inside is scary to me as the face is so close to the ice .As a survivor of a traumatic concussion I lost conscious for 1:30 and people were crying when I woke up being carried off the ice in a stretcher ,,,the dangerous move a Mohawk 100 Miles an hour while hitting a huge rut in the ice from a prior hockey practice .I agree I don’t like the broken leg is that why they changed it to side sit?
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
Oh my god I hope everything ended up being ok- so sorry to hear that- but thanks for sharing your thoughts! Cannot agree more that walley jumps are really cool in choreography and I didn't mention that in the video!
@susannicolari7335
@susannicolari7335 Ай бұрын
@@cathydingg they are old school But like the Ina Bauer everything comes back
@rse3560
@rse3560 3 сағат бұрын
Finally, someone else who doesn't like the cantilever! It's like the wolf turn in gymnastics for me. Objectively very difficult and impressive, but so ugly
@yannah81851
@yannah81851 Ай бұрын
I cannot do a spread eagle/ ina Baur I NEED HELP PLSS😭😭
@carbonation-v8x
@carbonation-v8x 26 күн бұрын
REAL MY SPREAD EAGLES ARE HORRENDOUS
@touche3225
@touche3225 Ай бұрын
Is there a link to this tier list?
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
Hi! Yes here's the link! (: tiermaker.com/create/figure-skating-moves-template-17311914
@rgznotfound
@rgznotfound Ай бұрын
Hey can you post the tier or send the link? I need to do it hahahha
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
Hi! Yes! Here's the link (: tiermaker.com/create/figure-skating-moves-template-17311914
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
Hi! Yes here's the link! (: tiermaker.com/create/figure-skating-moves-template-17311914
@aizhamalimerova2274
@aizhamalimerova2274 Ай бұрын
have you seen the veronika yametova's split?
@yohanes2034
@yohanes2034 Ай бұрын
Some moves I hate/ dislike in FS cause most of them I like or just indifferent to Aerial: I hateee backflips, they’re ugly and dangerous (hence the ban). I dread this season where many skaters would do it regardless if their program ask for a backflip. Most of them will probably land forward and look ugly, and I just pray no accident where they slip and fall Spins: I dislike adelina camel cause that position is unaesthetic and uncomfortable. I like yuna camel buttt unfortunately only jun who can do it justice, everyone else butcher it so bad. I also dislike candle spins variation (hyper flexible biellmann variation), cause it does not look better than traditional biellmann but it looks hard and forced Jumps: loop, sorry unless you’re Kaori Sakamoto then I dislike loop. The cross feet(X) shape on the entry for loop jump is unnatural imho. Most skaters are just crossing their feet before loop jump without any preceding steps to mask it. Only Kaori who can do the entry so well. Others: cantilever pass, most of the aerial moves also I feel indifferent almost to disliking them. Dead spiral in pair discipline is also one of the moves I dislike cause it’s hard to find the right musical phrase to do that move without killing the program dynamic
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
oooo I agree so hard on the death spiral being hard to find the right music to choreograph that element in!!
@carbonation-v8x
@carbonation-v8x 26 күн бұрын
girl where was the forward scratch?
@missevangelisas
@missevangelisas Ай бұрын
hanyu yuzuru hydroblade
@CanonSkyrissian
@CanonSkyrissian Ай бұрын
I've cursed every single jump and their creator at least once per season but I think the ones that I curse the most have been ulrich salchow and alois lutz xD lovely jumps but why must my faves stumble them at the worst moment possible also idk what it's called or if it even has a name, but in partnered skating I hate it when the man (usually) pulls the woman by her ankle. it's been done a gazillion times, it rarely brings anything to the program, RETIRE IT.
@urioriari34
@urioriari34 Ай бұрын
Low-key hate the leg-grabbing too. I don't know how the partner getting pulled can STAND IT! I would turn around and slap them lol
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
HAHA truly- figure skating jump names are truly one of a kind
@sparkypine287
@sparkypine287 25 күн бұрын
Yammer yammer yammer…..couldn’t stand more than 40 seconds of this natter!
@lcsvlogs313
@lcsvlogs313 21 күн бұрын
Hi
@GeoGeenius
@GeoGeenius Ай бұрын
just so you know for next time it’s med-ev-e-de-va
@AngelPlaysRobloxYT
@AngelPlaysRobloxYT Ай бұрын
its not ina bauer its iliabauer
@lucykim513
@lucykim513 Ай бұрын
Its also misogyny.
@Genetics_Stories
@Genetics_Stories Ай бұрын
My favorite figure skating move. That is a tuff one. I would probably say the layback spin. ⛸⛸
@cathydingg
@cathydingg Ай бұрын
Yesss we stan a good layback spin
@Genetics_Stories
@Genetics_Stories Ай бұрын
@@cathydingg I fell in love with figure skating after checking out a book with Kristi Yamaguchi on the cover doing a layback spin. 💖💖💖
@Shitty_ghost
@Shitty_ghost Ай бұрын
omg pls post the link to the tier list i NEED to do this
@rgznotfound
@rgznotfound Ай бұрын
YES PLEASE
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Hi! Yes here's the link! (: tiermaker.com/create/figure-skating-moves-template-17311914
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