La Masia: What Went Wrong at Barcelona's Academy?

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@aryan.marahaj
@aryan.marahaj 5 жыл бұрын
Barcelona are hiring the wrong manager's and board's vision is not on youngsters. The board wants success now but even that isn't working.
@user-sb2mt6pz4o
@user-sb2mt6pz4o 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully ansu fati can make the board realise they should focus on la masia again
@amitbora1703
@amitbora1703 5 жыл бұрын
you should know that valvared promoted more barca b players then anyone .....
@oudoilleoville
@oudoilleoville 5 жыл бұрын
When you have Messi in your team, the vision should be success now and not eternal postponing of success.
@Titantr0n
@Titantr0n 5 жыл бұрын
The board doesn't give a flying fuck about anything that's not bussiness and Valverde just wants to keep the position whatever it takes. We're in the SHIT.
@samy29987
@samy29987 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean no success? They have won la liga and the copa del rey almost every year for the past 5 years. That's success if you ask me. Now if you are especifically talking about the Champions League, that's another story.
@matthewvenables8867
@matthewvenables8867 5 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to believe that so many people think that La Masia is the best youth academy in the world, they hit the jackpot with there golden generation, just like many great teams have done through the history of football. La Masia and Johan Cruyff developed their identity by copying Ajax and Rinus Michels tactics and training methods.(That is not a criticism) The greatest youth setup belongs to Ajax, they have produced more elite footballers than any other club in the world and have done so for nearly 50 years.
@Snacks079
@Snacks079 5 жыл бұрын
Great post. I agree, except for one thing. Cruyff is the one who invented total football. Many players who were present at the time all stated Michels was always listening to Cruyff. Michels may have given his own spin, but Cruyff was miles ahead of anyone when it came to football philosophy and tactics.
@jumajasjas2925
@jumajasjas2925 5 жыл бұрын
True Ajaz is the greatest of them all... followed by Barca and Cruyf deserves every honor he change the game...
@jjryan1352
@jjryan1352 5 жыл бұрын
@@Snacks079 and the definition of his Total football is "a tactical theory in football in which any outfield player can take over the role of any other player in a team." Yet so many fake ass Barca fans memeing and moaning that the coach is always "playing people out of position", not even realizing that when he was a player he played under Johan.
@defandranurredityo2493
@defandranurredityo2493 5 жыл бұрын
Valid point. We should also notice one of the best youth academy at Atalanta in italy. They've consistently producing remarkable young talents for years, seamlessly integrating them into first team, while achieving excellent results in the end
@RasDam
@RasDam 5 жыл бұрын
@@Snacks079 David Winners book Beautiful Orange has numerous interviews with players from the 70s Ajax side that counter your claim. The best football that Ajax side played wasn't under Michels and absolutely no one claims that Cruyff dictated how that side played. The football Barcelona played under Cruyff didn't resemble the Total Football in anything but the general formation 433/343 and didn't have an emphasis on la masia graduates. That's something Cruyff only spoke of and tried putting into practice after seeing the success that Van Gaal had with it. The legacy of Cruyff shouldn't need to peddle such falsehoods as are commonly stated to proclaim his greatness.
@timothysoo6353
@timothysoo6353 5 жыл бұрын
Simple explanation, when a club or any company is at a peak for so long. They are more than likely to use all measures to maintain their peak even to the point of undermining what took them here in the first place. From a bigger picture, what we see Barcelona has been doing is no different from what big companies like Microsoft and Apple did to stay on top. Edit: You can also see the United States doing similar things at a different level just to stay as the top superpower. they acquire so much debt, fight pointless wars, military spendings etc. It has already undermined the economic prosperity of many Americans.
@izzojunior
@izzojunior 5 жыл бұрын
Top comment ✅✅
@tetelo1811
@tetelo1811 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Sony.
@al-amin6516
@al-amin6516 5 жыл бұрын
Timothy Soo does it applies to current man utd too?
@net_lag
@net_lag 5 жыл бұрын
Timothy soo. Tell that to Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo.
@kevinhanandi
@kevinhanandi 5 жыл бұрын
@@net_lag but the comment is about company or enterprises not individual
@asif5710
@asif5710 4 жыл бұрын
New youngster is coming Pjanic is his name hope he is good
@Tifo
@Tifo 4 жыл бұрын
👀
@snowitz
@snowitz 4 жыл бұрын
He's not a youngster
@_aleksis.k9484
@_aleksis.k9484 4 жыл бұрын
MDR Dipro no shit idiot
@leveled916
@leveled916 4 жыл бұрын
@@snowitz r/woooosh
@jitinnair9689
@jitinnair9689 4 жыл бұрын
Really u think him as younster
@der3kg720
@der3kg720 5 жыл бұрын
Barca have no idea what to do because they are so focused on Messi and his final years so they try to build around him
@jjryan1352
@jjryan1352 5 жыл бұрын
Don't think so. They have realized what players are aging and slowly phase them out. They are actually quite good at such transitions. They let the aging legends stay to play 60 minutes or as subs until they finally go out with a nice ceremony, and they are always welcome back as staff or management. They have brought in so many players in the past few seasons, all have done quite well, except for one flop and a few really good ones plagued by injuries (Vermaelen, Rahfina, Dembele, Umtiti and Neymar to some extent). Their only difficulty has been their reaction to losing Neymar so suddenly. They haven't really gotten that 3rd striker which makes a powerful trio, because when you have that you win a lot of stuff (look at City and Liverpool now). Hell they even finally got a backup for Jordi Alba and he's not that old.
@youneke
@youneke 5 жыл бұрын
@@jjryan1352 You are so lost it's not funny. The players that are bought has not done well and have not fit into the team much of them not even playing consistently. Politics destroy great clubs and Messi certainly is on his way down.
@juniorgonzalez3900
@juniorgonzalez3900 4 жыл бұрын
Youneke Browne That’s why I always liked Real Madrid more. They simply are a football club. While Barca I feel have an identity issue on the politics aspect “more than a club” (Catalonia) vs focusing on football traditions.
@b__c7538
@b__c7538 4 жыл бұрын
@@juniorgonzalez3900 That's because Madrid don't want independence
@b__c7538
@b__c7538 4 жыл бұрын
@@juniorgonzalez3900 While Barcelona is located in a place with a unique language and culture wanting to separate from Spain
@coffeebreakat2pm
@coffeebreakat2pm 5 жыл бұрын
The board is beyond incompetent in every aspect. They hire bad managers/decision makers with no long term visions and are consistently saved by Messi. The day Messi retires/leaves this club will be in shambles.
@philipmeisterl
@philipmeisterl 5 жыл бұрын
626 the Dream as a barca fan i agree when messi is hurt they dont win anything
@ma_sch1579
@ma_sch1579 5 жыл бұрын
yes you can clearly see, how Barca struggles recently without Messi or with him in a bad form.
@coffeebreakat2pm
@coffeebreakat2pm 5 жыл бұрын
The moment Suarez is done (which I hate to say is coming in the next couple year or so), they will start to apply Band-Aid solution by spending big money on the transfer market. This is the consequence of result based football, the board doesn’t want to go through the phase “rebuilding” when players are getting old, now they have to eat their own shit by keep spending money instead of bringing talents through la masia.
@philipmeisterl
@philipmeisterl 5 жыл бұрын
626 the Dream yes but with la masia good you would never have to fully rebuild but rebuild slow and steady
@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw
@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw 5 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@gavindavis8750
@gavindavis8750 5 жыл бұрын
I remember when Barcelona beat Real Madrid 5-0 in 2010, I don't know if there was a player that wasn't from La Masia that played (other than David Villa) and it was magical. Players like Issac Cuenca, Jeffren, Bojan and even Pedro at the time where all young players who were given game time in one of the most important games of the season. I don't know if they will ever go back to having as much faith in their youngsters as they used to. A real shame, I fear Barcelona will fade into mediocrity once Messi retires.
@h3nder
@h3nder 5 жыл бұрын
They likely will. When Messi retires most of their big names will leave Barcelona or be too old to do preform at the same level as they do now.
@madsin6516
@madsin6516 5 жыл бұрын
The scarier thing is, Messi could leave at the end of THIS season, and I think he should.
@h3nder
@h3nder 5 жыл бұрын
@@madsin6516 He should join Manchester United so we have an attacker. :/
@n1rmalplayz985
@n1rmalplayz985 5 жыл бұрын
@@h3nder lol no
@ratedpending
@ratedpending 5 жыл бұрын
Once Messi retires I think Barcelona will either realize the importance of youth players after 2-3 mid-table seasons, or become Manchester United basically
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 5 жыл бұрын
Rakitic’s point about the first team being too good for any youth prospect to get in is spot on. What frustrates me as a United fan is that most of our first team players clearly aren’t good enough to play for us and yet the youth still don’t get their chance. If we’d been blooding them in properly since the start of the season we’d probably have some consistency by now.
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 5 жыл бұрын
There is plenty of opportunity right now for a young attacking player at United.
@mahessara
@mahessara 5 жыл бұрын
Barcelona have a same problem with Man United. They didnt play and manage the club with their own philosophy and identity, instead using galacticos football. Man United start since 2014, and Barca start since 2016. As long as their president still on top, the downfall will always there.
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 5 жыл бұрын
steven cooke We’re not seeing enough game time for the likes of Gomes, Garner and Greenwood. Five mins at the end of a game that we’re losing away from home isn’t good enough.
@amalmohamed7062
@amalmohamed7062 5 жыл бұрын
iwantgoals 15 exactly it’s frustrating because Gomes should easily slot into that midfield but he’s of in the summer his contract is over and he ain’t getting chances when he knows that he should
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 5 жыл бұрын
@@iwantgoals1566 I like the idea of giving the young ones a chance to shine. But what do you do with players like Pogba who may not want to be around for this sort of trial? I don't think the team had any sort of plan for this year. Fergie must be out of his mind.
@harrykang8551
@harrykang8551 5 жыл бұрын
Best Football Content on KZbin, No doubt about it.
@joelbakka5127
@joelbakka5127 5 жыл бұрын
A bit of a stretch
@genosiaproduction7091
@genosiaproduction7091 5 жыл бұрын
Joel Bakka how
@Masternaldo
@Masternaldo 5 жыл бұрын
at least better than oh my goal
@freeross371
@freeross371 5 жыл бұрын
@@joelbakka5127 Who is better?
@antinormie5961
@antinormie5961 4 жыл бұрын
@Red Pill X X That doesn't matter.
@Orzel600
@Orzel600 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching this almost three years on with more and more La Masia players coming back or coming through into the first team which is the entire reason for the Barca resurgence this year
@tidalcliff2202
@tidalcliff2202 2 жыл бұрын
I know right! La Masia is thriving right now. Barca hit a low but now it's all up
@yhawjoey486
@yhawjoey486 Жыл бұрын
Right we hit low and they were overreacting La Masia will always be the greatest
@oudoilleoville
@oudoilleoville 5 жыл бұрын
I saw an interview of Edwin van der Sar. He told that the game has changed and that they had to adapt to that in Ajax youth academy by teaching the players to play faster than previously.
@atu8024
@atu8024 5 жыл бұрын
RiP... Yesterday barca lost again in an away game... Their worst start in 25 years
@GGININDER591
@GGININDER591 5 жыл бұрын
If they are able to find some new talent to grow in the progress I'm totally fine if they lose a game or 2. It's a growing pain. The thing is that is never the case. It's more problematic if you win the game in a wrong way, or in our case, not the barca way.
@SurferWilly
@SurferWilly 5 жыл бұрын
Real Madrid are not so stable neither. This just means that La Liga would be exciting to watch again after so many years. I remember when teams like Deportivo, Atletico, Villareal, Valencia, Betis, Sevilla and even Real Sociedad (Nihat. Alonso, Kovacevic era) were serious title contenders
@alfblue4734
@alfblue4734 5 жыл бұрын
Lost to a team that wasn't even in la liga last season lmao
@atu8024
@atu8024 5 жыл бұрын
@@SurferWilly right.... Even the epl has become a 2 horse race now....la liga will be exciting this season... Especially if barca keeps Valverde for another season and don't sack him like rn
@atu8024
@atu8024 5 жыл бұрын
@@GGININDER591 yea man since last 2 years every time we won.. It wasn't due to our amazing football but just individual quality.. Sometimes Leo or ter stegen... We should focus on the brand of football and after that try to get results...
@LordEdmund1973
@LordEdmund1973 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I don't mind the Chelsea transfer ban too much. We've had one of the regularly strongest youth teams in the world, with all this youth talent stored away and never used until eventually they left. That's why we don't have De Bruyne and Salah at the club. The transfer ban forces us to give them a go
@filiptalimdzioski7281
@filiptalimdzioski7281 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god get back to ISorrowProduction
@filiptalimdzioski7281
@filiptalimdzioski7281 5 жыл бұрын
@Sam of course youngsters are made for long term plans. So I guess it will pay off one day. I mean chelsea have state of the art and top class academies which Chelsea can use it.
@Junior-zf7yy
@Junior-zf7yy 5 жыл бұрын
Sam Reece James, CHO, Tammy, Mount, Tomori, all really good players
@Jie67
@Jie67 5 жыл бұрын
You dont have KDB and MS because yous deemed them not good enough and they have went on to better things while yous havent but whatever helps you sleep at night.
@manuelkiatoko
@manuelkiatoko 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jie67 We won the league twice since they left. Also it was Mourinho's short term ideas that deemed them not good enough no one else wanted them to go.
@danaassaf4251
@danaassaf4251 8 ай бұрын
It's so interesting to see that now, 4 years after the video, Xavi gave the confidence and trust needed to the youth players and we are witnessing the rebirth of la Masia with talents like Gavi, Balde, Yammal, Fermin and Cubarsi
@samuelfurtado3807
@samuelfurtado3807 5 ай бұрын
No other choice for Xavi
@jesuscoronado642
@jesuscoronado642 5 жыл бұрын
4:16 this exactly the problem, Barca doesn’t even try now. Thank you for exposing this, great in depth video.
@zephergaming4437
@zephergaming4437 5 жыл бұрын
Barcelona fans blaming Valverde, no, it’s your board who wants to sign attackers when it’s clear to the entire world that the midfield and defence needs a complete revamp. But you keep focusing on Neymar 👍
@rounak471
@rounak471 5 жыл бұрын
@shane we have pretty good midfield imo with Arthur de jong vidal busquets and vidal also we could play rakitic for league games. we need experienced defender who can play with pique
@rounak471
@rounak471 5 жыл бұрын
@shane he's just 20 bruh just give him time even now he's giving best performance in that position
@rounak471
@rounak471 5 жыл бұрын
@shane my bad he's 22
@Attalic
@Attalic 4 жыл бұрын
@@rounak471 Lol, Barcelona are trading Arthur for 30 Year old Pjanic. Have fun with someone you can only use for 3 more years!
@rounak471
@rounak471 4 жыл бұрын
@@Attalic yaa mate that didn't aged well🤦‍♂️ All credits to out stupid miserable board
@behzadmastoor1382
@behzadmastoor1382 5 жыл бұрын
-Iniesta “ The problem is to give them hope and confidence” -Pique “Youth players choose money over sports project” -Xavi “ Nowadays the youth players are very impatient and demand to be given chances” The problem is not just the Hierarchy but the whole system, while Bartomeu kicked every staff of La Masia, and has stated that he will leave in 2020, it will still not solve the problems. Currently the manager is struggling to work with the first team and is not getting the result let alone “a good performance”, and some of the fans as well are very impatient and demand a good result due to Real Madrid’s recent success in UCL, even though Barca has been winning the league consecutively. I believe it’s a cycle of struggle that every successful teams face such as Man United, Arsenal, Milan, And Real Madrid, and the fans should be patience and not forget that the important factor in Barcelona’s success had been good performance.
@ComradeOgilvy1984
@ComradeOgilvy1984 5 жыл бұрын
The solvable problem is to build trust in loan programs with second and third tier league teams around Europe. Players with potential need minutes on good teams, not necessarily great teams. They can wait for chances on a first team for a few years as long as they are getting playing time and the opportunity to improve. The loan receiver gets quality players with rough edges for cheap, and they have to be a little careful to not sour the relationship by not giving loaned players enough minutes.
@behzadmastoor1382
@behzadmastoor1382 5 жыл бұрын
I believe due to the youth players high wage demand the club and the loan club can’t afford to make a fair deal between each other, and the club as well should focus on the Lon players and not buy superstars that would result to youth players not getting chances after coming from loan.
@pragues90
@pragues90 5 жыл бұрын
As a barca fan i would wait for the team to rebuild. That's why i love barca in the first place.
@tg28112o
@tg28112o 2 жыл бұрын
Gavi, Ansu Fati, Alejandro Balde, Nico, Eric Garcia, you can include Araujo and Torre in the mix as well, are exciting players from la masia. Maybe it was just that the production of big club academies is inversly related to the performance of the first team.
@Rosemitchell17
@Rosemitchell17 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the music and production put into this analysis!
@liamwalsh7538
@liamwalsh7538 4 жыл бұрын
Genuinely the best channel on KZbin, thank you.
@kunwar2558
@kunwar2558 5 жыл бұрын
The very core of this club is rotten at the moment. Everything, from on-field play to the ideology and values, is deranged. The board is the exact opposite of what you expect from a Barca board: marquee signings without any plan (Coutinho and Griezmann), signings that don't fit (Andre Gomes and Paulinho), poor wage bill regulation, poor la Masia management. Everything's is rotten. And Valverde is basically helping them on the field by trying to literally bring barca to bilbao's level as he had vowed to when he was Athletic's coach. And the sad part is that I don't see this changing until the next presidential elections.
@sanjith619
@sanjith619 5 жыл бұрын
Paulinho was good tho
@kunwar2558
@kunwar2558 5 жыл бұрын
@@sanjith619 didn't say he wasn't. I said the board knew he wasn't the barca type player but still they went for him. Luckily for them, he turned out good.
@Ankitsingh-td5sz
@Ankitsingh-td5sz 5 жыл бұрын
This board needs to be replaced right now
@kunwar2558
@kunwar2558 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ankitsingh-td5sz couldn't agree more.
@Ayoutubeaccount3
@Ayoutubeaccount3 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty similar to Manchester United’s situation
@chilledllama8830
@chilledllama8830 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! It makes so much sense on the current club situations like AC Milan and Manchester United. Its reasonable to think that when you spend a fortune on expensive players that they'll make the team better again, but now thinking back on when these teams were strong, the majority of the players where part of the youth academy of that certain club and it just shows how important it is to incorporate it. Sorta like how Manchester City are always on top because the majority of the players have either known each other for many years, so the years of playing together is why they are where they are at the moment or from the academy, where Ajax last season proved how that factor helped to get where they were in the Champions.
@mattkirkhamm
@mattkirkhamm 5 жыл бұрын
when did barca have the most success? the time when they took an old barca player (pep) made him manager of there B team (full of barca youngsters) then made him manager of the A team which he them used a core group of la masia graduates, whom went on to win many league titles, champions leagues and national honours with most of the spain team being la masia graduates. i think the trust in the young players has gone as they are now compared to the greatness of xavi, iniesta, messi, busquets, puyol, pique. players who did amazing. they also brought back fabregas who did great at his time back at barca. the new youngsters are compared with those players which then puts pressure for them to be "the new messi" then when they dont score 60 goals a season they are dissapointed just remember messi's first season wasnt a 50 goals a season, he even took time to get going. also the manager not using a system which they have learnt for the whole life is stupid. spending 100million on a potential star when you probably have 10 potential stars at la masia or in the B team. silly really.
@silent1547
@silent1547 4 жыл бұрын
Now that the end of an era has been ushered by losses to Roma, Liverpool, and finally the 8-2 loss to Bayern, we can finally start afresh and a new generation of La Masia talent can once again rise.
@silvesta5027
@silvesta5027 2 жыл бұрын
Damn this comment aged amazingly. A new generation of La Masia talent did indeed rise
@jacko4932
@jacko4932 8 ай бұрын
la masia is revived now it seems. cubarsi, yamal, guiu, fort, gavi have all come through
@samuelfurtado3807
@samuelfurtado3807 5 ай бұрын
That was not by choice but the lack of choice
@Utkarsh-w2d
@Utkarsh-w2d 5 ай бұрын
@@samuelfurtado3807 Does that really matter?? These guys are integrating so well with the first team in such a short span. Can you deny, how technically sound these players are. All they need is time to grow and little more experience of first team.
@tommymccabe86
@tommymccabe86 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, really interesting to found out why la masia isn’t working now for Barcelona
@yodef6828
@yodef6828 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to see that this last year this has been changing
@josedavidborges8363
@josedavidborges8363 4 жыл бұрын
To me the greatest youth academy will always be the impoverished streets of Brazil. They just keep pumping out talent after talent, and they have been doing so ever since Pele.
@lp.shakur
@lp.shakur 3 жыл бұрын
when the hunger is big, literally, you fight for your dream to better your life
@myduck9962
@myduck9962 3 жыл бұрын
The greatest youth facility and system has to go to ajax and Netherlands. Just because the create more than just skillful forwards like Brazil does.
@josedavidborges8363
@josedavidborges8363 3 жыл бұрын
@@myduck9962 There is no other way of quantifying the success of youth development than the titles these once young players go on to win in the big stage. Brazil has 5 world cups compared to Netherland's 0. Yes, Ajax and the Netherlands are known for their more than superb youth systems but taking into account that Brazil does have the same amount of resources and tools available as these youth academies in Europe do, their job at pumping out talent is unequivocally superior.
@doggerlander
@doggerlander 3 жыл бұрын
@@josedavidborges8363 Ajax trains more than dutch players my dude.
@raterrr123654
@raterrr123654 5 жыл бұрын
And Grimaldo now really looks like a future superstar.... Way better than digne...
@19joaoreis96
@19joaoreis96 5 жыл бұрын
Nah Grimaldo sucks, let him stay at Benfica. Go after Alex Telles instead pls
@samuellarsson101
@samuellarsson101 5 жыл бұрын
The Grimaldo case is just an unfortunate one, apparently had fallen out with Luis Enrique and who wasn't impressed by him
@mahessara
@mahessara 5 жыл бұрын
Grimaldo has a same problem with digne, inconsistent. I would rather take Alex Telles or Jose Gaya. From United fans.
@goncaloaraujo6644
@goncaloaraujo6644 5 жыл бұрын
jcr96 Ahaha I got u ahaha PLS GO AFTER ALEX TELLES GRIMALDO SUCKS LET HIM STAY AT BENFICA
@josecipriano3048
@josecipriano3048 4 жыл бұрын
@@goncaloaraujo6644 yeah go get Telles instead, goodness knows how much Porto need to sell players to stay afloat.
@Nifava
@Nifava 5 жыл бұрын
As a Barcelona citizen and Barcelona fan since 1981 I can say this video is VERY WELL researched. The points made are all true.
@kristiannielsen6804
@kristiannielsen6804 4 жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias!
@megamind8359
@megamind8359 5 жыл бұрын
As a barça fan i am heart broken!
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 5 жыл бұрын
I don't even feel like cheering for them after landing Griezmann and trying desperately to recapture Neymar.
@_kimmy5526
@_kimmy5526 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly as a hardcore fan I don’t see us winning champions league anytime soon especially with Valverde still being our coach and you already know what happened in these past 2 years 😭😓
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 5 жыл бұрын
@@_kimmy5526 Valverde doesn't seem to believe in that phrase "More than a club".
@andreicanu6441
@andreicanu6441 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin recomanded this to me right after barca lose 2-8 to bayern
@noorimanhaqeem6095
@noorimanhaqeem6095 5 жыл бұрын
Do one for spain left back factory: Valencia CF Paterna academy
@treacheroustiger5571
@treacheroustiger5571 5 жыл бұрын
Just when I think Tifo can't get any better you upload this video, well-done guys! 👏
@LynkJDL1
@LynkJDL1 2 жыл бұрын
Before everyone comes back in with the gotcha comments, the reason talents are rising this season is through a lowering of the bar as was explained in the video. Standards fell and young and untrusted players got their chance when they otherwise wouldn't have
@kkpw12
@kkpw12 5 жыл бұрын
When he started taking abt agent one name particularly came in my mind **Mino Raiola**
@Maj1794
@Maj1794 5 жыл бұрын
Barcelona have lost their identity.
@juanpadilla3613
@juanpadilla3613 5 жыл бұрын
Mujeeb Ahmed their identity that they got in 2004???
@jjryan1352
@jjryan1352 5 жыл бұрын
@@juanpadilla3613 exactly. Too many frauds claiming they know what "Barca style" is. Shallow fake ass fans.
@juanpadilla3613
@juanpadilla3613 5 жыл бұрын
Mohamed Deeq you’re an idiot for being one of those Barcadogs!!! You’re getting mad for saying the truth!!!
@momelendez9691
@momelendez9691 5 жыл бұрын
Leo Prado I’m a Real Madrid fan but they got their identity when Johan Cruyff joined them.
@juanpadilla3613
@juanpadilla3613 5 жыл бұрын
Mohacyr Melendez they got somewhat of an identity because for a very long time they were an average team!!! After they won the CL as Cruyff as manager it took more than 16 years for them to be a competitive team in Europe!! Go figure
5 жыл бұрын
Great insight, thanks for the information. Another great video as always!
@siddikisiam
@siddikisiam Жыл бұрын
We are back Gavi,Fermin,Lamine,Guiu
@armanzhylkaidarov3719
@armanzhylkaidarov3719 5 жыл бұрын
Quality analysis. Well done
@kingaufswag
@kingaufswag 5 жыл бұрын
Do a video on how Man United have been able to feature academy players in all of their match day squads for so many years
@joswin2240
@joswin2240 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video...keep up the good work
@shayconaghan
@shayconaghan 5 жыл бұрын
I can't blame you for butchering Txiki's name:
@TariqAmazin
@TariqAmazin 5 жыл бұрын
INCREDIBLE CONTENT.
@TheWildCur
@TheWildCur 4 жыл бұрын
The 1996-2000 Yankees had home grown players and talent that meshed well with eachother. In order to hold onto that success they emptied their farm system, bought high priced free agents and went a decade without a WS appearance. Even missed the playoffs once or twice. This is what Barca is going though. Theyll either figure it out and realize it was developing players that gave them their sustained success or they will be Manchester United. There are successful sports franchises who always stick to the plan, so to speak. They ride the ups and downs of that but never get greedy and try to maintain an unsustainable peak. Baseball Clubs like the St Louis Cardinals and Oakland A’s. Borussia Dortmund/Ajax. Even Bayern Munich follows this model although they spend big to keep players and even go out and buy stars. They also have an amazing youth development strategy.
@prabhnoor_
@prabhnoor_ 5 жыл бұрын
What's with the subtitles at 1:56? Forgot to double check? 😂
@Titantr0n
@Titantr0n 5 жыл бұрын
That's hilarious, a note slipped into the final script lol.
@thegreatcalvinio
@thegreatcalvinio 5 жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with La Masia? Next video should be: What’s wrong with Valverde?
@rikut9220
@rikut9220 5 жыл бұрын
clueless
@sebastianpatriksson7814
@sebastianpatriksson7814 5 жыл бұрын
You’re clueless. It’s the roots that is wrong with la Masia, the president, the board and the system has been undermined
@rikut9220
@rikut9220 5 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianpatriksson7814 im saying that valverde is clueless
@sebastianpatriksson7814
@sebastianpatriksson7814 5 жыл бұрын
Riku T I just happened to say the same word but I meant TS, valverde isn’t the main problem, he is part of the problem and the core of the problem is the board and the president. People just use valverde as a scapegoat and the board is fine with it as long as the fingers don’t point at themselves
@rikut9220
@rikut9220 5 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianpatriksson7814 i dont think anybody thinks that bartomeu and the board arent retarded, but valverde is a problem to
@TheCipheric
@TheCipheric 3 жыл бұрын
Take it from a United fan, never lose faith in the academy in search of short term solutions ... honestly that’s the only thing which ole is doing right now which is making us so much better ... we spent like crazy past couple of years and still our most dangerous players (after bruno and edi) are rashy and mason who are only gonna get better, I have high hopes from Deano and McT too ...
@silvesta5027
@silvesta5027 5 жыл бұрын
I’m hoping that when Messi retires they will start to play their youngsters more, similar to the situation with Chelsea
@MichaelSmith-zv7om
@MichaelSmith-zv7om 5 жыл бұрын
Silvesta it’s not because they sold hazard... it’s because they have a transfer ban, I’ve seen (doesn’t mean it’s factual) that if Chelsea’s transfer ban gets lifted they have £300mil to spend
@rounak471
@rounak471 5 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelSmith-zv7om whether it's because of transfer ban or not. The way chelsea are playing under frank Lampard is pretty decent at elite level considering the fact that all of there important players has left the club except kante. Even thou they're not in top 6 there situation is better than man utd for sure . If the Lampard stay at Chelsea for2-3 seasons if may it take it ti whole new level.
@MichaelSmith-zv7om
@MichaelSmith-zv7om 5 жыл бұрын
Ask me 7 weeks ago who’s going to be Chelsea’s goal scorer (willian - creative winger, pulisic - creative winger, Pedro - creative winger, giroud or Tammy Abraham) I would have 1 laughed, and 2 giroud 100% there’s no way that a kid who did decently in the championship was going to come and save the day for Chelsea, boy was I wrong. I’m not saying the team isn’t playing well. I’m just saying that if there was no transfer ban it would be a different story signing a top level winger and a new striker
@rounak471
@rounak471 5 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelSmith-zv7om completely agree with you. Yes they need to sign an experienced striker and defender next summer but I'm low-key hoping instead of spending 300m on new team Lampard continue with the present with few signings. Maybe cause i like to see team with full of youngsters lifting the trophy rather than a team who spent millions in every window
@vishnubalakrishnanp275
@vishnubalakrishnanp275 5 жыл бұрын
Chelsea were forced to play the youngsters. But the fact that Tomori, Tammy, and Mount have been the best players so far will have an effect on how the club will look at the youngsters. Chelsea's youth teams have been dominating both domestically and in Uefa youth leagues (5 finals, 2 titles) and with the likes of Morris and Edwards talented youngsters have more chances of getting into the team. Chelsea will be making smart buys next summer instead of the usual marquee ones.
@samsonallen2122
@samsonallen2122 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@Deltagamerforce
@Deltagamerforce 4 жыл бұрын
Who’s here after Barca just lost 8-2? I would 8-2 be Barca fans rn...
@joeyblaq9952
@joeyblaq9952 5 жыл бұрын
Very good piece
@markravindranayagam1736
@markravindranayagam1736 5 жыл бұрын
Could you please make a video on the new rb Salzburg team under Jesse marsch or a player profile on erling haaland braut. Keep the good work up as always👍
@hamzaelmessari7656
@hamzaelmessari7656 10 ай бұрын
Well that video ages bad in a few years.
@liamcorrea3417
@liamcorrea3417 4 жыл бұрын
I cried through the whole video.
@Ivanmaradonaaa
@Ivanmaradonaaa 4 жыл бұрын
What about now?
@WowFoilage
@WowFoilage 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else keep having Breaking Bad flashbacks whilst watching this?
@FireOccator
@FireOccator 3 жыл бұрын
Fear of failure is usually what gets you.
@alanp.thompson
@alanp.thompson 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video the 2011 side which beat Man Utd 3-1 was amazing team. so many out of the youth Academy. The Youngsters are not coming threw the ranks as much as 2000's plus they spending massive in the transfer market. Plus they want Messi to win every game for them he's a great player but the other 10 players need to chip in. Football a team game. Just subscribed look forward to more like this great channel.
@MarwanWayne
@MarwanWayne 5 жыл бұрын
Next video: How Marcelo Bielsa could revive La Masia.
@almasmahir2091
@almasmahir2091 4 жыл бұрын
la masia has emerged again with the hand of fati and puig
@apjuniorthaking6028
@apjuniorthaking6028 5 жыл бұрын
Do a video about Real Madrid's academy "La Fabrica", please?!
@celestialrex551
@celestialrex551 5 жыл бұрын
Video on how bundesliga favors high pressing and attacking resilient football alongside tactical defending
@GabrielLee13
@GabrielLee13 4 жыл бұрын
This video aged like fine wine
@8ymat
@8ymat 3 жыл бұрын
Think again lol
@raghavrathi6591
@raghavrathi6591 3 жыл бұрын
Turns out all they needed was a coach who gave them consistent first team minutes
@karehaqt
@karehaqt 5 жыл бұрын
0:31 I must have missed the seasons when Donald Trump managed Barcelona
@freeross371
@freeross371 4 жыл бұрын
That would be epic though 😂😂😂 "I'm going to make Barcelona... Great Again!!! 👐"
@rossomac21
@rossomac21 4 жыл бұрын
This comment deserved more love.
@spirita4072
@spirita4072 5 жыл бұрын
what do you use to make videos?? great job btw
@shazam1522
@shazam1522 5 жыл бұрын
They had a good system but u cant ignore the fact u cant u cant reproduce xavi iniesta easily. Their philosophy may just hold it back by not acknowledging that sometimes individuals are needed like a ronaldinho. They promoted pedro giovanni and bojan amongst other but momentum can only hide flaws for so long. Look at world football as a whole there are no dribblers. Wheres a new rivaldo denilson djalminha figo. Everythings passing based
@isaacasamoa927
@isaacasamoa927 5 жыл бұрын
Dont forget that just cuz a player isnt what u had doesnt mean he isnt good enough now
@shazam1522
@shazam1522 5 жыл бұрын
@@isaacasamoa927 he may be good but he cant meet barca standards. the term world class get thrown about too much these days.
@cummerchant542
@cummerchant542 4 жыл бұрын
Xavi is in retirement so over 20 years since someone like him has been made noice
@darthhideous8
@darthhideous8 5 жыл бұрын
Has there been a video done on Chelsea's academy? 7 FA Youth Cup in 10 years and 2 time winner of the UEFA Youth League, plus it seems like there's going to be a new generation of academy products breaking through and forming the back bone of the team. Tomori, Reece James, CHO,RLC,Mount and Tammy Abraham.
@RasenRendanX
@RasenRendanX 5 жыл бұрын
It's pretty crazy if you think about it. Barcelona and Chelsea youth situations have totally reversed.
@richieyoung88
@richieyoung88 5 жыл бұрын
Tifo football best content on KZbin
@cheatsmygame
@cheatsmygame 4 жыл бұрын
This should be a wake up call for Barcelona after the 8-2 defeat from Bayern
@captain_meerkat1901
@captain_meerkat1901 5 жыл бұрын
Why is everybody acting like this is the end? I’m not even a major Barca fan (BHAFC for life) but I respect them. They will be fine in the mid to long term. They have such vast money and influence that they will be perfectly fine. The academy will become better and produce better players again. It’s a cycle with football, you have a few years off, you have a few years at the top. Even the big clubs can’t win everything. No idea how Valverde is still there tho. That confuses me
@Personal_Chizo
@Personal_Chizo 5 жыл бұрын
*"La fabríca"* I swear to God, you guys are killing me...
@Vultoor
@Vultoor Жыл бұрын
Great vid
@themrwoody1434
@themrwoody1434 5 жыл бұрын
The 16 year old they have is pretty impressive. Does he count as a La Masia player if he skips the youth teams?
@jaydeepbose4501
@jaydeepbose4501 5 жыл бұрын
No
@nabil731
@nabil731 5 жыл бұрын
And also carles perez
@WorldView-ys5bz
@WorldView-ys5bz 5 жыл бұрын
Jaydeep Bose yes it does
@unstoppableExodia
@unstoppableExodia 5 жыл бұрын
Ansu Fati is a youth product for Barca and he's shown a lot of potential
@Crowned-Qwesi
@Crowned-Qwesi 5 жыл бұрын
He was brought on because they didn't have a choice not because they think he deserved a chance.
@alexkyriacou214
@alexkyriacou214 5 жыл бұрын
It is fantastic to mention a Cypriot team :) Thanks Tifo Football
@HashimyHuseini
@HashimyHuseini 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone here after Koeman brought Youngsters back in the senior team ❣
@felipemorales4901
@felipemorales4901 4 жыл бұрын
Barcelona has wonderful players in La Masia that deserve playing time. One of them is Riqui Puig, who has the potential to become a world-class midfielder. Carles Alena also has that potential. And I do understand the need to win, as a fan, I hate it when we lose. But it is also important to focus on building for the future and signing players from abroad all the time is not the answer. We are lucky Ansu came out of nowhere, hopefully, they'll keep giving him the chances he deserves.
@ayreonate
@ayreonate 5 жыл бұрын
Thiago and Grimaldo and Denis Suarez already left, Roberto and Alena and Sergi Samper are criminally under used inspite of their huge potential . barca buying Dembele for 120M and he is either injured or not played at all because he is a bad fit tactically. same as Vidal, Paulinho, Coutinho, Griezman, Turan, Malcom , Andre Gomez, Paco Alcacer, Vermaelen and the list goes on. basically the the board is throwing ideas on the wall and seeing what sticks. and thinking that money solves everything. its just like Real Madrid's Galacticos and PSG. while clubs like Ajax and Dortmund crush the champions league with their academy graduates.
@gaoru
@gaoru 5 жыл бұрын
The thing about clubs like Ajax and Dortmund is that they're not very consistent. Ajax is practically playing UCL every year since the 2000s and last year was the only time they got that far. They get eliminated from the group stage most of the time in the last 20 years. They have a very "romantic and idealistic" footballing system where if everything goes right it's the most beautiful form of football. However, that does not happen too often in modern football. It's been proven time and time again that you have to spend a lot to build a consistent and competitive squad.
@ayreonate
@ayreonate 5 жыл бұрын
@@gaoru Guardiola's Barca is probably the most consistent team in football history and its not just about what they won its that they won using the system that they developed for years and revolutionized tactics in a way that made them basically unplayable. the important thing that they proved it can be done. I agree that their golden generation is very hard to replicate consistently but what is happening now is the complete opposite of what made the club great. Im barca fan and I would'nt mind a transition period every a couple of seasons to refresh the squad and not be as dominant as long as they stay true to their philosophy (promote from within, possession based tactics etc.) but my problem is that they have made an 180 turn and still are under achieving. I loved the MSN era aswell tbh but it was the start of this downfall.
@haseya2554
@haseya2554 5 жыл бұрын
I watch these videos and feel sophisticated
@darthhideous9084
@darthhideous9084 5 жыл бұрын
How about Bayern's academy? Name me one good player to have come out of it since Alaba.
@johnmiguelnang2644
@johnmiguelnang2644 5 жыл бұрын
Not really
@darthhideous9084
@darthhideous9084 5 жыл бұрын
@Cole-Con O Kimmich was bought from RB Leipzig, not developed by Bayern.
@johnmiguelnang2644
@johnmiguelnang2644 5 жыл бұрын
@Cole-Con O nope
@viranchimishra3198
@viranchimishra3198 5 жыл бұрын
it's not about other team and their academies. Barca was world-famous for their youth prospects and academy just like Ajax and their downfall will get noticed around the globe.
@matafaka2060
@matafaka2060 5 жыл бұрын
Bayern are not that well recognised in producing top youth talents
@moutasemhussain
@moutasemhussain 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently this is one of the few stories that didn't appear originally on the Athletic. This must be Joe Divine's work. Well done 👏
@kristiannielsen6804
@kristiannielsen6804 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, it is my work (not kidding) :)
@jakubwrona2040
@jakubwrona2040 5 жыл бұрын
Guardiola left the club. That’s what happened.
@jjryan1352
@jjryan1352 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. What most people claim to be talking about "Barca style" they really mean Pep style. Because they won so much with him they got spoiled for trophies and bitch and moan when it doesn't happen every season.
@brrvi921
@brrvi921 5 жыл бұрын
Jakub Wrona Because of that rat Rosell obviously...
@Stichting_NoFa-p
@Stichting_NoFa-p 5 жыл бұрын
It's more complicated that just 1 person.
@cityslacker6221
@cityslacker6221 5 жыл бұрын
It wasn't just Guardiola leaving; losing him along with the two top executives,Txiki and Ferran, along side Pep precipitated this decline. Now, the three of them are building their own La Masia equivalent in Manchester.
@liolioliolio1719
@liolioliolio1719 4 жыл бұрын
@@cityslacker6221 tbh tiki taka was dead but in my opinion barca should have kept triangles throught out the pitch
@ramitabh17
@ramitabh17 5 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on Chelsea academy and what the future holds for them as Lampard has taken over.
@DexOne1
@DexOne1 5 жыл бұрын
Who go after neymar when u can build a 200m worth of squad by just using youth team, if u want to be the best coach or manager try coach someone who is nothing to superstar. For me the best manager is the one that makes a player and a team good. Even when losing, the fans still believe their team will won.
@greyman662
@greyman662 4 жыл бұрын
So sad how money is taking over the game, I really hope La Masia goes back to the 2000s days where they bring up exceptionally talented youngsters
@dylanpriest9756
@dylanpriest9756 5 жыл бұрын
La Masia was never anything special. It's ridiculous to believe that players like Xavi or Messi wouldn't be world class in other academies. They simply got lucky with a generation, and people overstate nurture vs nature
@moreira6500
@moreira6500 5 жыл бұрын
They had several generations..... How fucking dumb you have to be to say La Masia was never antyhing special.
@fandomewhisper
@fandomewhisper 5 жыл бұрын
It's true. Plus all the cheating they needed to win in their " golden " generation.
@shyguy1845
@shyguy1845 4 жыл бұрын
They still have one of the best academies in the world football.
@jb0609
@jb0609 4 жыл бұрын
You must be a Real fan.
@uvais
@uvais 5 жыл бұрын
Please do "Nothing is right with man utd since Sir Ferguson left"
@photovi
@photovi 5 жыл бұрын
Divock Origi.
@Nicko42069
@Nicko42069 5 жыл бұрын
corner taken quickly...
@jga1635
@jga1635 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and well covered but lately it seems like a bunch of players are breaking through. There are real issues that you point out but the system is not totally broken.
@phistoltv5196
@phistoltv5196 5 жыл бұрын
Those who disliked the video are probably Barca fans in denial.
@Tmzu
@Tmzu 5 жыл бұрын
There is nothing to deny. It's the youth players. They went after the money. Look at Xavi Simons for example.
@phistoltv5196
@phistoltv5196 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tmzu very true, these football kids nowdays care about money, not fighting to be the greatest footballer at least Mbappe deserves all the crazy money he is getting because u can see he is hungry to be the greatest footballer.
@maj8668
@maj8668 5 жыл бұрын
It is the Board. They put minimum expectations that all of La Masia product must have a qualities of prime Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Busi, Puyol and Pique to be in Barcelona XI squad.
@jtdvids9
@jtdvids9 5 жыл бұрын
One word, Rosell.
@LeShandy
@LeShandy 5 жыл бұрын
Is there documentation of Cruyff asking coaches how a team played, rather than the score? Is this evidence available anywhere?
@AlexGrtner
@AlexGrtner 5 жыл бұрын
8:12 Man City ruined more than just English football
@heyokaikaggen6288
@heyokaikaggen6288 3 жыл бұрын
Whilst Barcelona may well have run La Masia with the notable lack of sanity common to pretty much every football club, how likely do people really think it is that, even with a more rational set-up, they would have produced another trio like Xavi, Messi and Iniesta? No matter how good your system, the stars just don't align like that very often.
@B3nd1t.
@B3nd1t. 4 жыл бұрын
Here after the 8-2
@gustavalbericchidurocher9764
@gustavalbericchidurocher9764 4 жыл бұрын
People underestimate the psychological factors of a young guy - and even an adult - taking big steps in their carreer. Language change, lack of friends, increasingly playing against bigger and bigger guys. The pressure they feel changes everything, from the weight of the ball to the speed and strenght of the tackles. And when they don't feel it, it changes for the best. More than working out the skills and mindset, academies need to work out how and WHEN they will put a player into the field of every step taken - from the u12 to the u15, then to the u17, then to the u20 and then to the 2nd team, to a loan and so on - to feel fine no matter what happens... To feel their football will show off, to feel that fluctuations are normal and will soon stabilize. In Brazil this is a bigger problem than anywhere else, i can assure you all. Almost every team has a "next Ronaldo, Neymar, Kaka" etc., and they are all result based because they are all in debt and in need of sponsors. There's almost no planning. Few have overcame this and sometimes when they did, the next president was there just for the corruption and broke this so needed cycle. A perfect example of this was Lulinha from Corinthians youth academy. He had between 3 to 4 times more goals on the youth teams compared to Romario (only guy to have scored more than 1000 goals that played in this century), who was the previous record holder until he obliterated his mark. To make this a little more ridiculous, he wasn't even a striker, but a playmaker!! Lulinha's professional debut was at 17 y.o., which is totally ok for today's standards BUT, it was in the end of a season where this 35 million fans team based on Sao Paulo, very violent city, went to national's 2nd division for the first time ever, in a moment of immense pressure. He never had a good season at all. Now one can tell that this pressure is part of football and of course it is, but i do believe that its manageable and that its the club's duty (not only interest) to make it. You don't send a soldier to the most terrifying field of the war without making him properly used to easier fields.
@nabeelkhan7506
@nabeelkhan7506 5 жыл бұрын
So this story didn't first appear in Athletic
@adityapraveen9342
@adityapraveen9342 3 жыл бұрын
who's here in 2021 where it took a billion-dollar debt for Barca to use La Masia and its working out perfectly for them?
@Boodhernandez
@Boodhernandez 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible honestly. It took that and the core of players to not be as good for the youth to finally get a chance. I'm Glad Koeman has proved almost the entire fanbase wrong including me and is leading us forwards. Laporta is back now so this club is healing good. International break just after a 6-1 Thumping away at Real Sociedad. Visca El Barca
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