Why Bayern Munich never really loved Robert Lewandowski

[@josha882]

Will never forget the time he scored 5 goals in 9 minutes after coming on as a sub. Machine is the right word to describe him.

[@kukunase1686]

agaainst farmers

[@RaziSuleiman]

@@kukunase1686 it was against Wolfsburg who knocked out United out of the CL that year

[@noeldown1952]

@@RaziSuleiman although that's more of a statement about United than Wolfsburg

[@jprme7588]

@@noeldown1952 Lmao, true

[@reeshavgohain]

@@kukunase1686 Yea Real Madrid are farmers huh xD 4 goals against Real Madrid in UCL's semi back in 2013. Were you even watching football back then? lol

[@_MMWWMM_]

There is one crucial point you omitted here. Which likely made Lewandowski the way he is. The man was released by Legia Warsaw at 17, told he wasn't good enough to make the first squad. I'm sure this played a huge part in his mentality and taught him that the only person he can rely on is himself, not any club.

[@timstradley5819]

GREAT point. That explains a lot

[@ICantSplel]

Lewandowski was signing for Blackburn Rovers from Warsaw, but that volcanic eruption in Iceland halted flights, and he ended up in Dortmund instead. I wonder how he would've got on in the Championship...

[@lol-gz7xl]

a lot of players have been rejected by clubs in their youths. It cant affect him so much that he turned into a robot only thinking about numbers when he is in his 30s and knows he is more than good enough.

[@EnclosedPoolArea]

Not exactly a pivotal detail. This happens to pretty much every player.

[@maciejkoszyk3093]

@@EnclosedPoolArea Not every player becomes best in the world afterwards though. Plus check out where Messi was at the age of 17. Or Ronaldo, Haaland, Thomas Mueller and many more. Lewandowski was nobody at that time. He had to prove himself in Poland, he had to prove himself at Dortmund where he joined as a sub, not main striker, constantly improving his skills as a mature player.

[@Sly_404]

Same can be said for his stint at Dortmund. Even before his departure to Munich, he had friction with parts of the squad and made it clear, ultimately playing football is his profession and the club is his employer not his family. That's fair. Not every player needs to have an emotional connection to a club.

[@arekp00]

He has heard from Borussia's owner that pole can't be best paid player in german club. So in this situation i would leave either.

[@Otto45]

*Employer.

[@Sly_404]

@@arekp00 Borussia doesn't have an owner and he was the highest payed player there before he left. Your source: "trust me bro"

[@theletsplayer4921]

also bayern are not a family they are farmers

[@agn855]

That's why Uwe Seeler has brought the league to a commemorative stand still. A player identifying with his club for life - just like ordinary European fans do. But guys like Lewa or Gareth Bale (Real Madrid's "golf player of the year") are acting as ego-driven employees who make the term "Human Resources" fashionable. With the appeal of a piece of furniture. Well, at least nice to have...

[@Callmeab50]

He is an example of a worker. Not every player has to like his workplace

[@baba10ye]

True

[@friedrichnietzsche2557]

He polish is normal the polish are very professional

[@xboxgamerhr]

It's because he's Polish. Germans hate Eastern Europeans. Ribbery and Robben are westerners.

[@melihgebler1768]

​@@friedrichnietzsche2557 Yes, they are, problem is with the "loyalty" not "professionality", also that professionality can be subject to critism when you easily tell the press openly, that the club who paid you full for your services, that they are now "dead" for you and only "history". It is a personal choice I respect, with "loyalty" you leave a legacy behind, an organic tie between you and a club and their millions of fans, Robbery had that, Beckenbauer, Müller, Rummenige, Hoeness, they all had that. This tie would make you a trainer or even a president when the right time comes. Or you just dont care or it is not important to you, what the club did for you instead you only focus what you did for them. Lewa did exactly that, so its his choice, he could have been the "Polish" president of a German club, instead he will probably be booed by some Barca fans, if he doesnt accept a salary cut next summer...

[@kirakira9906]

It's not like he didn't like it and played only to feed his family/himself and pay bills and mortgage like a normal worker. It's more likely he thought Bayern was the best shot for him to win and succeed in Europe and so he did. We don't know what he liked or not, but if he didn't like Bayern Munich he would have left way earlier. He liked playing for them and with them, but without too emotional attach. It was a good place to work for him, but just a job nonetheless. If Real Madrid didn't have Cristiano Ronaldo he would have probably left for Real Madrid.

[@anarcho-boulangistllamaent2023]

Despite everything, he was still arguably the best free transfer of the 21st century. And he should have won two Ballon d´Ors by now (2020 and 2021), but Covid and Messi winning the Copa America for the first time prevented that from happening.

[@ferigeooo9583]

He is probably the best free transfer of all time

[@fathernotfound000]

As a Bayern fan Messi did well in both club and international club level so i think 2021 Messi deserved it but 2020 was robbed

[@khattab5351]

2020 yeah but 2021 messi was simply better

[@tjstech5544]

Say that ur a pendu fan without saying u are pendu fan 😂. Messi 2021 was simply better than ur penaldo and tapindoski . Cry more cause ur finished penchester fc might need some water 💦

[@DayzAhat]

@@fathernotfound000 nah he didn't deserve either

[@stefanc4520]

Do you want a friend or do you want a winner? Lewandowski is a winner and his record speaks for itself. Never mind that 5 goals in 9 minutes insanity 🤯

[@michakoniecpolski5677]

Xdddd

[@anonim4584]

@@michakoniecpolski5677 Co polaczka cebulaczka dupka boli że wszyczy chwalą Lewandowskiego tylko nie polskie januszostwo?

[@jayeimas5304]

at the end of the day, the werent able to win the champions league untill he became a friend

[@sehu1291]

He always ghosted in the big CL games vs big teams. Never scored a decisive goal in such a CL Match. And the 7 Bundesliga title we would have also won with another Striker like Mandzukic or now Choupo. He is one of the best striker ever. But not a „winner“

[@sehu1291]

The 5 goals in 9 minutes were absolutely crazy but it was in an unimportant match. He is one of the best strikers ever but was never a clutch player like Ronaldo as you can see also at barca now

[@TheMarslMcFly]

Bayern Fan from Germany here: While Lewa may never had that passionate love for the Club like Robbery for example, he still is a very beloved Club Icon. He always gave his all put up numbers that are absolutely insane and broke records everybody thought would never be broken. As you said yourselves, he's a machine that only strives for the best. Right now there's still pain, and some anger over his rather awkward exit, but I'm 1000% sure in 10, 15, 20 years time we'll look back at him just as fondly as we're looking back now on Robben, Ribery, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller and so many others. And while I'm very far from being a Barca Fan, especially now with their treatment of their players, I really hope Lewa can achieve some more amazing years there and maybe even finally get his more than well deserved Ballon d'Or.

[@lps2013]

Yea, bit sad how he went in the end, but I do understand him personally as well, that he wanted to do something else as well at this point of his career which caused some friction between the club and him, but I think that can be forgiven.

[@luminousdreams8405]

Lewa gone to Barca just because of Ballon d or. Spanish Teams have some type of quota system in Ballon d or.

[@LK-fz7vr]

I think lewy is too humble to be bitter at bayern. Even though his exit probably hurt him, i think he silently has respect for the German league

[@ceer9141]

@@LK-fz7vr Humble? Humble?? Lewy is many things but certainly not humble.

[@LK-fz7vr]

@@ceer9141 ughh... sounds like you have a thing for him. I'm sure he has a Twitter account you could probably msg him in.

[@shirisharyal1882]

"Never really loved" ...those are heartbreaking words for everyone related to bayern .. what might be true is we never become too much dependent in him like barca with Leo and thats how we saved our club ..rather than playing game around our best goalscorer we always put the team game ahead...

[@priyanshgarg0707]

Exactly.......Bayern's Philosophy is everything about a Team Game.....rather than a single player game......

[@papamuller]

Keep telling yourself that bud

[@bethelehemasmamawtsegazeab8006]

Barca didn't have a Messi dependency up until 2017

[@LiftandCoa]

​@@bethelehemasmamawtsegazeab8006These are especially WRONG words. The title and basically the video are just one bad, far from reality, take.

[@santiagoch2451]

It's a little harsh, Lewy was a true professional for better or worse... always a key player on the pitch but not really the heart of team. That's probably why the arrival of Mané feels refreshing in a way, you can see really him connecting with the fans from the start Edit: the Mané comparison has aged terribly, I get it lmao but hey at least Kane is doing well

[@richgangg]

They are just hating because he joined Barcelona, don't let them fool you. Now they're trying to talk bad about him to shatter his image. I know the media

[@karacute5324]

Mane is second level compared to Lewandowski

[@yadvendrasingh6730]

@@karacute5324 youre delusional if you think that, mane is far more versatile and multiz dimensional than lewy plus he was probably one of if not the best player in the premier league for years

[@karacute5324]

@@yadvendrasingh6730 you are delusional. And i do not expect a clueless Fanboy from India to know anything about world football, Lewandowski’s world class or the Bundesliga. Mane is second League compared to Lewandowski. Check out Lewandowski’s stats , titles and performances over years. And then check Mane’s.

[@dylanmurphy9389]

They are saying Bayern didn’t appreciate Lewy and Liverpool didn’t appreciate Mané. Both statements are utter bulls****

[@Darwinek]

Lewandowski is a pragmatic professional who reminds us being a footballer is just a job. In Polish national team however, he shows his emotions on and off the pitch more, and is not afraid of being honest and critical if something doesn't work well. I appreciate that.

[@Muchapzp]

spot on that

[@Darwinek]

After Poland lost to Senegal at the World Cup in 2018, he said at the press conference something like "I cannot score if I don't get the ball from my teammates. I am just a human, I cannot dribble past five players and score." After one terrible game in the qualifiers he supposedly told his teammates in the locker room "You will finally open your eyes when mine will close for good."

[@give-me-a-handle]

​@@Darwinek was it the Denmark 4-0 Poland game?

[@Darwinek]

@@give-me-a-handle I believe so

[@wiseonwords]

@Darwinek - He seems to be really enjoying his football at Barca. There's definitely a connection between him and the Barca fans.

[@saif1099]

Genuinely one of the best strikers in the world, he should have had a balloon dor or two by now

[@NoCluYT]

He definitely should have 2020 and arguably 2021

[@cheddarsmith6568]

A mix of robbed and messi/cr7 existing

[@Reorganiser]

@@cheddarsmith6568 tbf he never would've reached the heights he did if it wasn't for the hurdle of beating CR7 and Messi year after year. The whole football world wouldn't have been as lethal if it wasn't for them, cause you got to remember that if you are willing to win anything, you got to beat the current best one at it

[@reeshavgohain]

yup a lot of balloons indeed xD

[@cheddarsmith6568]

@@Reorganiser Maybe, but without them he'd have AT LEAST 2 Baollon do'rs

[@lprehan2367]

From a fans perspective I can say we loved him more than anything. He broke records and played so well to the point where you’d be shivering once you hear that he’s injured. I do think he’s atleast top 3 strikers of this generation and hope he continues to dominate at Barca

[@xynathegamer]

If Bayern got Haaland everyone would be talking how Bayern did Lew dirty. Can't blame Lewi, if there's no club loyalty towards aging players, you can't expect the other way around.

[@charlesray9674]

But that was the point, if he came in working late in practice, giving advice & talking with the reserve and youth players or even acted like he cared about the club, he would have been revered. I haven't been following Bayern for several years but if you just came to the club for individual glory & accolades instead of helping the Club win, then Bayern fans will not be fond of you. The best example I can think of is Gareth Bale at Madrid. He helped the club win trophies, but he didn't have a relationship with the fans 😔 The German football always had that team first mantra.

[@taftybufty]

did you watch the video? lewandowski also wanted to leave the club twice and blamed his teammates. its obvious your head is in your arse

[@TheModeler99]

@@charlesray9674 His goals help the club win. Is he not allowed to have personal aspirations? Its a family for the fans but its a job for the players, Bayern was ready to discard him for Haaland, I would take care of myself.

[@charlesray9674]

@@TheModeler99 True, but he had a bad attitude from the beginning. You're teammates probably didn't enjoy his attitude by disparaging them with his display of frustration (towards them) and showed their this pleasure with him by not setting him up. His attitude is very similar to Gareth Bale at Madrid. German football is characterized as a team effort. When a player shows his display when a teammate doesn't pass to him or makes a mistake, that does not show well for him. I have not followed Bayern since Klinsmann was the coach, but I do know that the club will treat you respect if you show act accordingly. If Stefan Effenberg can be rated higher than him, then he must be a bad egg. And yes, you're allowed to have personal aspirations, but your personal ambitions shouldn't be put before your club.

[@salmandudayev8259]

U r lost, Miss Lewa always played her stupid games. Year after year, I don‘t care about Lewa, oh, Ballon Nada for him.

[@prakharshukla4559]

Lewy was very loved in Bayern, almost every day we hear something about Lewy from Bayern. Lewy, muller, and neuer three were captains of Bayern while Neuer was the captain of the team he lead the defense, muller linked up plays Lewy lead the frontline creating spaces for other players. You can clearly see in coman's goal in the final how Lewy is marked by 3 players and coman is free, just because of him, he indirectly creates the goals which normal people don't understand

[@m.n5888]

What contribution did your speech make to this video,at the end of the day Lewy isn't as loved as the others mentioned in the video even Muller and Nuer are loved more.

[@bossolini2560]

@@cold_servo_pie Show evidence or you're lying

[@patrykchlipaa257]

I would say even more. Lewy's change of playstyle around 19/20 could impact why strikers are back in business. Remember that there were very few of the prospects among the strikers prior to pandemic. World class only Kane, Lewy maybe Suarez, but some didn't even got into UEFA TOTY when the entire front was say Neymar, Messi, Ronaldo none of them typical strikers at the time. Lewy and CR I think shown how to reinvent striker position for newer generations and sort of pivoting in the team. Of course it was really good with CR being still in form to do so and Lewandowski having Gnabry, Coman, Perisić, Coutinho, Kimmich all in great form. He had deliverance. Next year he was unlucky as Bayern lost in UCL without him on pitch. Last year however Bayern was dramatically weak, with very bad depth of squad, players like Roca, Sarr or Choupo-Moting being first sub choices. It's sad how Bayern said goodbye to their legend. However I believe that this end up let Bayern make some really good transfers and even if they lack striker, which of course will be ruining their season, they would anyways at some point need to reinvent themselves. It's same case for Barca after Messi's departure, it took them to this season to make up squad good enough to put all puzzles at the place. Same for Real, they needed to find new leader - Benzema. He also profits of the change in tactics globally. I would say even more than Lewandowski. And now we have all those pivotal striker roles like Benz, Lewy, Kane and a new age of players like Osimhen, Haaland or Vlahović who aren't only goalscorers but also can provide depth in play.

[@luqmanibrahim]

Muller and Lewa partnership was least as least as, if not more, impactful than Ribery and Robben. Both Muller and Lewa helped each other reach the peak performances of their careers.

[@wojteks4712]

Well, that's the whole point. He was in fact impactful, he was loved (but not as much as his German colleagues) and he was denied long term contact, ditched for younger prospect. And then - in a shameful spectacle - pushed out without goodbye. It broke my heart how easiuwas he dismissed by club, Media and fans, who got so much from him

[@IsaacIsDead1]

Short answer he’s Polish.

[@monsterwith21faces92]

Well Ribery and Robben are loved by the fans with their life

[@ksw6513]

He is going to Barcelona part of the deal so this goat 🐐 order by club of Barcelona is now paper property 🌈😅🤣 of Manchester United everything 🙂 is sealed and signed ...just need to delivery by aeroplane or train channel tunnel to London and met someone take him to Manchester and group of people and friends to new old Trafford..finally we our player to Manchester United!

[@grantkassan6561]

if he were english german or american the praise would never end. polish? he’s ‘contested’ despite all his accomplishments

[@ama6487]

@@monsterwith21faces92 you see now Poland always acted like a victim of Germany while stealing their lands...

[@robert.kalorie]

​@@ksw6513wdym

[@WChocoleta]

I'm a Bayern fan, and back in 2014 I was against his transfer since I thought we had Mandzukic already. Lewa turned out to be one of the all time greats to have ever graced nit only this club but the entire sport of football of our times. I feel extremely privileged to have had Lewa on our team.

[@jakemorrison8507]

Ironic that German didn't feel the connection to a player that was described as lacking emotion, straight to the point, a machine and put the task above all else. I'd say these are qualities that can be attributed to German work ethic

[@HermannTell]

Good point 😉. I'd still say we just have different ways to show emotion. And loyalty to a club is still highly valued with fans. And like the video said, he was never emotional about a club bur a professional worker. Fair, but nothing to make people love you. Thomas Müller for example is much more loved for that reason plus he's a Bavarian himself which probably helps.

[@lahelia9691]

Are you a German or lived in Germany? Stop believing in stupid stereotypes from old types. Germans respected him for his unbeliveable achievements and bayern fans loved him. But thats not because everyone has this worker mentality here.

[@jakemorrison8507]

@@lahelia9691 worked for an engineering firm that sent us to work for a couple of weeks at a time at their partner company in Germany for 15 years and they would do the same with their lads

[@Jonathanizer]

You said it: "work ethic". But even in Germany, football is not work, at least not for the fans, and if a player gives off the impression that it is just work to him, then fans not everybody might like that. Personally i prefer an honest footballer who does his job over a "passionate" player who changes clubs every other season and pretends he has now arrived at his favorite club, and he has always been a fan, yadiyadiyada.

[@HermannTell]

@@Jonathanizer that's exactly why I'm so annoyed with players like Anthony Modeste. he always left as soon as he got another offer, but demanded loyalty when it didn't go well for him. exactly that Yadayada player you're talking about. Just don't pretend and be an unemotional worker like Lewandowski then.

[@konradborodziuk1396]

How about putting it from Lewandowski point of view??? Bayern never really offered him a contract extension. They were planning to replace him with Halland. After all he had done for the club. Even after Halland deal failed Salihamidzic didn’t act either fast nor professional handling the situation….. Both sides are there to find guilty.

[@julienjulienjulienjulienjulien]

Well Lewa always played it professional, and the club, in that situation, did it too

[@Raghzor]

I've watched almost every single bayern game for 7 years now and this feels more like "lesser team mentality" if you ask me. He has never come across as cold to me, atleast not in this fashion described here. He has an incredible winning mentality and worked really hard out of possession, only outrun by the likes of Kimmich. If you are an out-and-out striker and a teammate whiffs a chance by shooting from 20 meters out instead of supplying the pass I'd be 100% frustrated too, to the point where it feels like they intentionally sabotage. Obviously that's not the case but the feeling remains and I think we can all imagine it. I prefer a winner like Lewa over a logo-kisser with half the yield (unless that's the point, like with a false nine). You could really see the bayern tactic change under Nagelsmann to a point when it frustrated even me seeing as they were no longer scoring as regular as before, more occasionally popping off in big number games but the "just-win" games got harder, and Lewa wasnt put in the right position as he used to. You could often see him drift out wide and deep, putting him away from where he needed to be, as he started the attack but the goal never came due to him being pushed deep. Like a Harry Kane but without the yield of Son to provide with. It's a shame Bayern never brought in Ziyech, he would have been able to put up Ronaldo-Özil numbers. In the end I'm sad he didnt retire in Bayern, it would have been proper, and I already see him as a club legend, and have done so for a few years now.

[@jaset362]

You've got a point. Lewandowski enjoyed Bayern managed by Hansi Flick who reinvented team's game after unfortunate Kovacs management. Bayern won with Flick 6 trophies in 1 season and all the players were really happy.Then everything began falling apart because of animosity between Salihamidzic and Flick who did not get required high leveled players as replacement for Perisic,Thiago, Coutinho and Alaba.Bayern's team which won CL championship was dismanteled. Hansi Flick was fired and took over German national team.Nagelsmann was hired and team's chemistry was gone.Under Nagelsmann management, Bayern team became pathetic shadow of that managed by Hansi Flick. Nagelsmann's idiotic experiments did not work in Bayern's favor and the players who enjoyed playing in team under Flick management..It looked like Nagelsmann wants to turn Bayern in RB Leipzig 2.0. Nagelsmann did not want striker ,he prefered game supported by wingers and high pressing of midfielders. Lewandowski did not fit to Nagelsmann vision of Bayern team at all. Thus Lewandowski is gone and Bayern coudn't close last 3 games (3 draws in the row - it never happened with Lewandowski on the pitch).

[@adamstaniewicz7740]

Just one little thing; don't say "lewa" say Lewy It makes a difference in polish language 😉

[@jaset362]

@@adamstaniewicz7740 Well,it makes difference in Polish language but most Lewandowski's fans don't speak Polish.Lewandowski himself doesn't demand from fans to follow rules of Polish language. His last name is long and he is not the only players in the world with last name replaced by fans with nickname.Anyway,it happens mostly to spectacular players who are famous and internationally recognized .Thus,Polish fans will admire him as Lewandowski or Lewy while other fans will use shorter version of his name by cutting of last 6 or 7 letters i.e. Lewan or Lewa. I guess he accepts his fans choices in this matter.

[@adamstaniewicz7740]

@@jaset362 to put it in context - "lewa" can be use for female leats say his wife; "lewy" same thing but for male You do with your knowledge what you want; regards

[@Vegeta-dn6lk]

@@adamstaniewicz7740 byczq a ile mi mohammedow i innych przekręcamy

[@yamnayaseed356]

I think his legacy will age in the future as Bayern inevitably declines at some point. Fans will be reminiscent of Mueller-Lewa partnership that made them take the Bundesliga for granted.

[@michaelheckl3382]

Bayern wont decline in the coming years solely because of having great finances. As you have seen in the summer transfer window this year, whenever the team underperforms in regards to expectations (more than just winning the Bundesliga), they show their financial muscle to strengthen the team and becoming more of a contender for multiple trophies. And Bayern is unlikely to lose that financial edge anytime soon, as they aren't wasting huge sums of money like for example Barcelona while being not far off from the marketing and sponsor attractiveness of clubs like Barcelona, Manchester United etc. Also Nagelsmann is a coach who can adapt quite well and seems to have a great understanding with the team. He was brought in for the long haul, given more time than some of his predecessors + signing players suited to his philosophy and the overall chemistry of the team will ensure national dominance and international competitiveness for the foreseeable future.

[@theresurrectionmen8707]

I don’t think they will decline if anything they may win the CL because of their new style with way more movement now.

[@JohnMushitu]

Imagine thinking Bayern will ever decline 😂

[@WizoIstGott]

This is not how Bayern works. We thought the exact same thing around 2015 when they had a lot of aging top performers. Lahm,Schweinsteiger,Ribery, Robben, they all were hitting their 30s and were still instrumental in the way Bayern played. And they managed to replace them all for under 40m combined (21m Coman, 8,5m Kimmich, 8m Gnabry, Free Goretzka). As much as this pains me, but Bayern is so well run and so far ahead of any Team in the Bundesliga, they will propably not decline until we have a Jürgen Klinsmann situation again.

[@samking5101]

Bayern won’t decline. They will just poach all of the talent from rival bundesliga teams

[@HermannTell]

German here: Maschine ("machine" from the Manuel Neuer quote at 2:26) is a relatively new very colloquial term that means something like "beast", especially used for unmatched athleticism. Used in that colloquial sense, it doesn't carry any of the connotations mentioned in the video like being a precise, but emotionless robot or anything like that. The rest of the video seems very much on point.

[@LiftandCoa]

The entire video is based on fuzzy and wrong assumptions like these. Entirely bad take video

[@katarzynakedra2048]

And now Lewy sings with the fans on Barcelona's streets after scoring 4 goals in 3 games 🤩 definitely different mentality from both sides and positive vibe 💃

[@JohnnyMaverik]

The best Bayern and Bundesliga striker in the modern era, most goals in a Budesliga season, a near 1-1 scoring record for Bayern, the second highest scorer in the history of the club. The 5 goals in 9 minutes are something of football legend and fable and he hasn't yet retired. Idk, if we have to have a global game then as a non-Bayern fan I say sorry boys and girls over in Munich (how many of you are actually in Munich or have even been to Munich... well it's the modern global game, maybe I shouldn't care), I say you don't get to choose, he is a Bayern and Bundesliga legend, from an Arsenal fan, like it or lump it.

[@oskarnogalski8178]

Robert Lewandowski: One of the greatest strikers to ever do it, has left his mark. Seen him in red since he left Dortmund, and I honestly can barely remember a time he hasn't performed. A true professional, it could be sad to never see him get the Ballon D'Or he deserved for those two stunning years he produced, and hopefully the club to which he devoted nearly a decade will recognise his brilliance. Good luck to him in Barca, and good luck to Mané in filling his shoes.

[@novakjainabhin]

Oli Kahn and Herbert Hainer went to Paris for his Ballon Dor ceremony. Even though everyone knew he won’t win it. He was loved here.

[@dogdog2635]

You’re delusional if you think everyone knew he wouldn’t win it. It was one of the most controversial Ballon Dor’s in recent years

[@novakjainabhin]

@@dogdog2635 did I say he deserved to lose? I just said it was known he wouldn’t win because all the leaks and reports named Messi as the winner days ago.

[@dogdog2635]

@@novakjainabhin ah okay, sorry for the hostilities I thought you meant it wasn’t close at all

[@ludwigwiench2629]

I am a true bayern fan and can say that we all always loved him

[@tudor-alexandrumunteanu-ji7083]

I mean he had 3 goals and 4 asists in the r16 against Chelsea, one goal and one assist against barca in the QF and one goal and one asists against Lyon in the semis. He certainly performed well

[@spncr7157]

Not to mention he finished top scorer for that UCL season with 15 goals which is the tied 3rd most by any player ever

[@kenandjoker4857]

Bayern would won without him the Champions League 2020

[@architchaudhary1285]

His general play against both Barca and Lyon was mediocre. Against Barca he would have a hat-trick if he could finish better and what easy chances they were. numbers don't tell the whole story and people are always going to expect much more from someone touted a Balon d'or contended or apparent winner. He thrashed tottenham and Chelsea but that was again a collective effort against very weak teams that year.

[@komodododo7961]

@@architchaudhary1285 I agree it was mediocre he even missed a couple of sitters. People seem forget just how good Gnabry played on the knockout stages, 2goals against Chelsea&Lyon 1g+1a vs Barca and most of those goals were a joy to behold. Another player who also doesn't seem to get his recognition from those games especially the semifinal&final is Neuer. Arguably MOTM in the final

[@thomasjrgensen3165]

@@kenandjoker4857 And PSG went to a final without Messi,and with Messi didnt even make it to quarterfinals,whats ur point.

[@StrangerInTheDay]

I have to say that he finally found his joy in Barca. I never saw him that smile in his face all the time he scores the goal. Surely he feels so needed in current Barca squad and feels to be adored by Xavi as well.

[@mrwabbit9576]

its a team built for egos and idol worshiping so its expected. The tradeoff is they wont win a european trophy anytime soon

[@박상연-e3s]

Yeah enjoy your uel

[@UnknownUser_10]

That smile disappeared now

[@StrangerInTheDay]

@@UnknownUser_10 He knows where he is. Now the boys will be separate from the men and next season can look differently. More experienced and hungry for trophies players are needed for Barca.

[@UnknownUser_10]

@@StrangerInTheDay They always say the same for Barca, but nothing will change, that’s already sure. Lewandowski made a mistake with this move.

[@Raydensheraj]

I'm a radical FC Bayern München Fan since 1993/94. And I absolutely loved Robert Lewandowski.... especially with Thomas Müller right beside him tearing defense lines up. He is a Bayern München legend....and it is a incredible stain of shame he isn't treated as such.

[@DUGotd]

We as fans loved Lewa ! Sad to see him go to Barca, I always loved to watch him and muller play together

[@JavierHernandez-pc3gu]

I love that he’s with us at Barca 🔥 we the fans love him because he scores goals. Once a culer always a culer.

[@yatharthagarwal902]

I understand the ideology behind this, but it's only partially true. As an avid Bayern fan for the past 15 years, I can say that, Lewandowski truly was loved at Bayern. His departure may not have been as emotional that of Robben, Ribery, Lahm or Schweini, but that doesn't mean true Bayern fans didn't understand his importance to the club. Even amongst a team full of amazing players, Lewandowski was the only truly elite superstar, and probably the biggest star Bayern have had in the last 30-40 years, and it's very widely known that Bayern in general is not very comfortable with the players who have that "superstar personality"

[@swikarneupane]

I think LewanGOALski is loved by almost every supporters of the club. But even with his excellent performances for years he'll not be loved more than manuel neuer, robbery, david alaba, joshua kimmich and especially Thomas Muller. Muller will always be the symbol of Bayern Munich for this generation.

[@punit.u9343]

True...but if brought more cl than league if would have been more connected to the fans

[@polololo8377]

@@laiswith2dots can you explain in detail what exactly Neuer, Muller od Kimmich did that you could see the love? In my opinion its only german perspective, all Bayern fans I know which are not german do not see this.

[@lps2013]

Yea, absolutely loved him, bit unfortunate how he left in the end, but all in all not to terrible, not entirely unacceptable way of going. I do understand that he wanted to do something else one last time in his career.

[@polololo8377]

@@lps2013 how he left? What exactly did he said? I was looking for all his interviews and only german papers have made wrong statements about him. What exactly did he said that very bad that was not true?

[@weilim10]

8 years at Bayern (12 years in Germany) is a very long time. Schweinsteiger's departure was even more quiet than Lewandowski (Lewy came back for 1 more training session and one more time to say goodbye to his teammates; Schweinsteiger came back 4 years later for a testimonial). For me, the sale of Schweinsteiger and THE FREE TRANSFER of David Alaba were harder to understand than Lewandowski's. Also Ribery had asked to leave once, but Hoeneß persuaded him to stay put. I still love the guy, will always love the guy. It does make me chuckle how Barcelona are terrible in the Champions League this season.

[@ilish6338]

we're gonna give him all the love he deserve, he already said at Barcelona he feels like kid in candy shop

[@frostb1041]

Price they pay this season for always taking things for granted , Leverkusen deserves the trophy

[@romancandle416]

True genius is never appreciated in its own time.

[@khutsoserakoana6412]

I don’t really follow Bayerns behind the scenes closely but it feels like Mane is getting more love in 2 months than Lewa got in 8 years

[@ferigeooo9583]

Yes but that is because Mane also shows his love to the Club...already got the microphone from the Fans after his first Match already visited the womens and amateur team etc...Mane already feels more like a Bayern Player than Lewandoski in many years tbh

[@Kushagra.j]

@@ferigeooo9583 Mane won't even be 1/3rd the performer Lewandowski was for Bayern. It's unbelievable how underrated he was. Man had CR7 at Madrid type numbers and still didn't even win 1 ballon d'or

[@santiagoch2451]

@@Kushagra.j you are probably right, but his welcoming personality lends itself well for the love Bayern fans wanted from Lewandowski. Still, he will always be a Bayern legend... i think time will make things right

[@SuperLari1234]

@@Kushagra.j he didnt have cr7 at mayrid type numbers lol,iirc ronaldo had 450 goals in 438 games in 9 years. That’s the most absurd stat i have ever seen

[@christianopulinaldo8319]

@@Kushagra.j Mane > lewandowski overall gameplay

[@clintharrisjr.6999]

Lewa is the reason I'm a BVB fan and I'll always have a soft spot for him.

[@stke8593]

I think a few years further everyone will remember him as the great striker he was at Bayern and with his numbers there is no way around calling him a Bayern Icon. I already get nostalgic seeing him in the Bayern kit.

[@AsadKhan_pk]

At Barça he is touching the Culers Soul already, and if he has 2 successful seasons he can become a legend here, a legend who came with low wages and helped us in our worst financial situation

[@tomtomtomtom691]

His legend will be diminished unfairly by a lack of magical moments in the playoff stages of international tournaments. How did Poland produce such a world class striker yet produce such a mediocre national team? It didn’t. Lewandowski created himself, and this is his most legendary achievement.

[@Fanuel28]

To be precise Lewandowski work really hard in clubs where he got under great coaches to become who he is right now. You can have talent but without working hard you will crumble. I read once story about Portuguese young player who rumored to be bigger talent than CR7 but people gave him so much money they spoiled him and now he play in regional leagues. Why did I wrote about him? He had everything but not surrounding which would help him improve and Lewandowski worked hard even in Poland to transfer to good club he went to Dortmund where he met Jurgen Klopp imagine it's your first coach in serious career man who is now becoming legend in Liverpool winning Premier League and Champions League. Later in Munich he meet all great coaches mentioned in video but also Heynckes was temporary coach too. They for sure changed him a lot and I believe Lewandowski said that Guardiola teach him a lot about football probably because of it he plays so good for Barcelona right now. I'm from Poland and sadly it's not our country who create great players it's that they have to be noticed at young age by scouts and reeducated in serious clubs. National team is completely different thing because in Poland we don't have anyone who can make good team out of all those great players. I think current coach might be one who can do it but we will see. I bet it's really hard for any coach in Poland to train national team when they have better careers than most of coaches. Probably this is why our federation hired Paulo Sousa because he was man with trophies but everything failed once he got big contract from Flamengo and flee there to just play like half a year and get fired.

[@thewildformosanformosan]

Not every player need to play like kiss the club's badges, cry like a baby, and make it look like they'll die for the club...

[@thvf2381]

not everyone is a messi and thats ok

[@tomaszstarzZz]

Dude downplayed Lewy so much. Munich maintained league titles thanks to him, if he would stay at BvB, Bayern would have not seen those trophies and Rummenigge would go bold or even 6 feet under. In first two years, Ribery, Robben and Müller were so selfish. Lewandowski never behaved like a star, never cared about it, he was humble and just wanted to win Champions League titles, so he often openly criticised management and they didn’t like it. I’m glad he moved to Barca, helped a legendary club in their most difficult time and brought them to greatness again.

[@richardgreer459]

I loved him at Dortmund and I’m glad he’s no longer at Bayern. Greatest 9 in the world for a few years there. Still deserves consideration as such and his Balon d’or

[@saifabidalbloushi]

Its kinda poetic how, the last year he played at bayern, he was not selfish and was a team player, a role model to the young. Then he finally won the ucl with dignity and left.

[@BestBoyPatrick]

How Lewandowski is remembered is going to be interesting. In the wider footballing world he will be remembered as one of if not the greatest striker of all time. His goal scoring feats in the league and champions league are second to none and eclipse the normal allegations of the BuLi being a weaker league. 41 goals is incredible no matter what. The man should be a back to back Balon D’or winner. But is he that to Bayern fans? Is he a club legend? Is he remembered as one of the greatest strikers in their history? It’s a very interesting difference

[@langletprolet8378]

It doesn’t eclipse the allegations Buli being weaker. It is there because no other team in that league can come close to Bayern, and Lewy’s big numbers are part of that reason. No club there can challenge Bayern and Lewandowski. Plus the fact that other than Bayern no other Bundesliga teams are consistent in reaching the higher rounds of UCL. Even in Europa League, its the Spanish clubs that dominate it for some time.

[@BestBoyPatrick]

@@langletprolet8378 my point is that 30-40 goals every season for the last 3/4 shows that he’s on another level. Yes they could win the league without him and a good striker gets 15/20 but 30+ (without playing every game) is just incredible

[@DizzyBusy]

He wasn't a fan favourite in Dortmund, but we gave him a proper send off that still brings chills to my spine when I look back at that moment. And I think he was Klopp's biggest success story at the time, when he was starting to build his reputation as a king maker in underdog teams.

[@alessandrotorres3537]

I think he won't be remember as a Robbery or Müller level legend by Bayern fans.

[@arncj18]

for BL he was the best goal scorer for sure, better than Haland, for CL "the best all time goal getter"? i dunno, but '21 he was the best. His sense of space and positioning is the best i've seen. And i watch football very closely since '94. BundesL strangely was always a one team league, the other teams being vassals for bayern. That is why BL never outshined a PremierL., where 5-6 could win a title at least for a long time, (not now really in the oil money era) or LaLiga, where 3 teams are at least close enough. PLus bad luck stopped him winning more CL, which was the only thing that mattered for him. He should be at least a 4 time CL winner with that bayern squad. But he is too nice of a guy to yell at team , when they should play him all the time. Bayern management went behind his back for Haland, Salihamidzik, and broke his trust and heart. Than the press said he had no feelings. The team started having ego problems where players weren't serving him with balls so much anymore. The wings sane, ganbry, coman were very good, but not team players in important moments.

[@dOMINIClord-by3se]

He is a legend at fc bayern munchen with real fans players dont have be involved with the club still a great player, gernans like all types of players and people from all over the world if they are ok , being polish doesnt matter fc bayern munchen mia san mia

[@jamescronin3033]

If he'd been a German world cup winner like so many other Bayern legends I'd imagine they'd feel more love towards him

[@TheNormalJuan]

you're not entirely wrong there, that would help for sure. But neither Robben nor Ribery were Germany world cup winners either, and the two of them with Lahm are the three most beloved players among the fans that have left Bayern in recent times. Maybe Schweinsteiger could make part of that group too. But then you have someone like Jerome Boateng, who was a regular and generally a well liked character among fans, as well as being a wc winner, but when he left it didn't really make all that much noise. In his case his performances were already declining a bit, but still. So it's not a guarantee that if he'd being a Germany wc winner he'd be more loved by fans. The attitude towards the club plays a part as well.

[@Sascha_Germany]

Yes we would i guess

[@Timbone07]

@@TheNormalJuan I disagree. The Bundesliga is just boring now. That's the issue. Schalke and Dortm and others were winning the league when Robben was in his prime. 2009/10 was won by Wolfsburg. Ribbery shone at 2006 World Cup. A one team league has no excitement

[@TheNormalJuan]

@@Timbone07 first of all, Wolfsburg won the league in 08-09 season, and Robben arrived in 2009. Only Dortmund won the league since then. Secondly, Joshua Kimmich arrived at Munich in 2015, Leon Goretzka in 2018 and Serge Gnabry in 2017. Throughout all of their time at the club, Bayern had no real competition in Bundesliga. That doesn't change the fact that they're all very highly regarded and loved by the fans, not just for the success of the club in general, but for their work-rate and their passion for the club, similar to Thomas Muller and Manuel Neuer. Kimmich is even considered the natural successor to Lahm, one of the most beloved and respected figures from the club's and Germany national team's modern history. And thirdly, even if they can "easily" win the league, they don't just relax during the entire season and lower their level (like what has happened to PSG). They keep pushing themselves, they keep a high intensity, they work out hard to improve in all aspects of their game. They want to keep competing with Europe's other elite clubs in the Champions. They are not satisfied with just the minimum to collect their medal at the end of the season. They always want more. And that's where Lewandoski doesn't seem to click with the team anymore.

[@Timbone07]

@@TheNormalJuan You just named all German players. You proved my point and the point of the other commenter. If he was German then it might have been different. I recall him scoring was it 4 goals in 8 minutes coming off the bench during Pep's time. Maybe he is an introvert but he showed emotions. He is not a machine

[@ADAMCODYMUSICPROJECT]

Ironically, because his move from Dortmund to Bayern demoted Bayern's nearest rival from a UCL finalist level to a UCL knockout round level, it really took away "meaningful" domestic campaigns and left only UCL for Lewy. But, he himself created that competitive vacuum.

[@KNfrmMDP]

I never thought about this aspect of Lewandowski’s career at Bayern Munich. It is quite sad & shows how much of a ruthless organisation Bayern is. However, winning is winning.

[@ferigeooo9583]

What does this exactly has to do with Bayern being ruthless?

[@freshd6278]

Lewandowski always was very clear with the fact, that he isnt playing for Bayern because he liked the club, but because they were the best. He never loved Bayern, and so the fans never really loved him either. The thing is, it doesn't have to be like this... Take ribery, robben, thomas müller, basically everyone else. They are loved by the fans and the bosses, and they love the club. Lewandowski has been, during his time at Bayern (and Dortmund, for that instance) always been a mercenary, only playing for the most bidding.

[@us6483]

What a dumb statement! If you were right, how come many former players are somewhat involved in the club and adored by the fans. Lewy's predecessor Mario Mandzukic is still revered by every Bayern supporter I know, same with Giovane Elber or Paulo Sergio. It's not even limited to strikers, Martin Demichelis or former role players like Hansjörg Butt are very well liked and the former is currently coaching Bayern's second team.

[@YeTism]

@@Coach-Gautam_Gambhir Bundesliga hasn’t been competitive since 2013. There’s no reason to be invested.

[@kobber69]

@@YeTism sure thing bro go watch your moneyball in England we're gonna enjoy actual football over here

[@kkryspin]

Well, I'm not sure if I will be not PC but Lewy being Polish had always played into the reception in Germany, not just in Bayern. In Dortmund they told him that he can't be a highest paid player because he was a Pole. That sort of attitude carried into Munich, not because he wasn't paid well but never celebrated like Roben but he came from a country Germans don't have much respect for. Had he been a Britt or French he probably would have wont ballon d'or winner by now. Heck, I go step further and say that in 2020 had he been British or Dutch they would have gave him the trophy that year, instead they scrapped it because of covid. :-) Now, in Barcelona he is a happy camper for the first time in 12 years. People love him there and he's got his fire reignited doing what he does by scorring goals.

[@danimaster6647]

I can see the argument but think that Lewandowski will be judged differently in the future. Like you stated one of the reason for the lack of love is that Bayern and Lewandowski were just too good in the last 8 years. With former legends there have been times of struggle. Robben was loved because his story was truly unique. He was the glass man, always injured and despite promise he was disposed by Real Madrid for more expensive/shiny stars. Then after a great start and a title/champions league fairy tale which ended in the final Klopp and Dortmund dominated the league in the 2 following seasons. Robben was labeled an egoist by German media, missed an important penalty in the Champions League final, for some time lost his starting place and many people wanted him out of the squad. Then (many people don't remember anymore) in the 12/13 season Bayern was dominating with a new system and Robben started this season on the bench/injured. But after Kroos injured himself, Robben came back and had so many great games. He dominated against Barcelona, scored their winning goal in the final and has been a hero since. People like this story of struggle. There never has been such a story about Lewandowski. He was a beast at Dortmund and after the first season where he was just very good, be became an absolute machine. Müller and Beckenbauer had great rivalries back in the 70ies. There was Gladbach and other elite strikers like Heynckes, Klaus Fischer and so on. But for Lewandowski the only other attacker who could compete with him (for a short period of time) was Aubameyang. It's like watching an action movie where the protagonist is great in every aspect from the start. He has no problem dealing with the bad guys and so no real excitement comes out of it. For his legacy: He is the best striker, together with Gerd Müller Bayern has ever had and with a few years more he could have taken every individual award away from Gerd. His footsteps have to be filled out by 2-3 different players (Gnabry, Mane, Sane). And don't be fooled to just say "now Bayern will be way more flexibel" after one game played in the new season. The first real test will come when there is struggle and the dominant force in the box which is Lewandowski is missing. The wind can shift pretty fast and then everyone will come crying for a target man again

[@danieljurkiewicz1695]

Good comment, I agree.

[@tranchienbinh]

Epic comment!

[@arncj18]

it is as you say, and as i expected, this african bayern squad by this supposed "creative" Flikk coach, had a disastrous start in BL as the recent results shows. I liked Jupp Heinkes infinitely more, strong identity of game play. The identity of the team is gone. They think just cause some are individually good, that wins games, no, you have to focus in one point, that was Lewi the tip of the spear for Bayern. I cannot support Bayern anymore since aside, Muller Kimmich and Neuer, there is no real german in there anymore. This politcs of inclusion i don't want any part of thank you, this is or was sport, today it is anything but.

[@arncj18]

also getting Gerd's record, would mean staying at least 1-2 more seasons, to be sure. That is a lot of time to give from his time left in his career, esp. when he always wanted to play in LaLiga. But spanish big guns weren't fishing for him, when it was ideal for him. He may have overstayed his time in germany anyway, contracts were signed he couldn't leave, now since he now realistically doesn't have 8 years to break any records at Barca. It is very nice if he has 4 years. But Leo was his whole life at Barca so it is very hard. Maybe a single season goals record, a miracle, but that is also hard since he has some immature egotistical idiots at barca like rafinha, dembele, kunde also. Fishing for a CL title could be realistic and a dream come true. I wish it for him though. Nowadays who plays past 35 as a striker at the highest level? benzema while great, looks at the end of his stay, Ronaldo left at 33, (which was the mistake of his career.) Lewa already is 34. Even if he keeps scoring the press other than barca's papers , will bring up the age until his auto frustrates himself. Esp. if they beat Real and frustrate them.

[@arncj18]

so as a conclusion i think i would have stayed at Bayern break Gerds legendary record, seal my legacy. And win as many CL as i could. At least in Germany i would have been the best ever. But germans would probably still love beckenbauer forever more than a polish guy. unless i married a german girl and moved to germany. In reality that is incredibly difficult esp. if i got bored of bayern but he chose pleasure of playing at barca and i love that about Lewa, he has more heart than anybody even if he comes across as a robot.

[@Maxrodon]

As a Bayern fan, I have to say this is a really well done video. As a bayern fan, Lewy is like C.Ronaldo but cares even less about the team/club and has a very Professional view as he looks at it purely as a job and is more focused on himeslf and is incredibley good at what he does. C Ronaldo also commits alot of himself to the sport too and also has "selfish" goals, but he has always made a significant and genuine effort to connect with the clubs and will push his team to do better so he can win rather than just being annoyed when things don't work. Overall I still love him for all the years of service and for what he helped us achieve and wish him all the best.

[@pickle_soup160]

Rational take. It's all you can ask of the players. The maximum level of professionalism.

[@gastoldamian]

2 main reasons: 1. He is Polish. Translate what German fans write in internet. "This Polish guy will never be on the level of Muller, Neuer or Kahn." When he had 39 goals in season and 3 matches, many Bayern fans attacked him and said: he shouldn't brake record, because Muller is the real legend. (He did it anyway) 2. Hard work and shy. He don't have time and personality to be a star.

[@Roger_Diz]

I will always be thankful for the performances he gave die roten. That said, with his age and a creative coach like Nagelsman, Bayern will probably score more goals than they did with him last year. I really wish him the best personally but not professionally because of my disdain for Barca, but he will be a club legend and it was a great ride. Lewandowski helped prove that the Ballon d'or is a pointless award.

[@whitecrowuk575]

Nagelsman indeed had different vision to Flick and no typical 9 would be happy with that change.

[@Roger_Diz]

@@whitecrowuk575 Lewandowski had issues that Brazzo had the audacity to inquire into the interest of Haaland and Robert's ego simply couldn't handle it. Nagelsman would have been perfectly content continuing to feed Robert. Would have been malpractice not to inquire about the next big thing tbh. While you can debate who is better now, you can't debate the future with a mid 30s player against a total stud not even close to his prime yet.

[@Roger_Diz]

@Miracle Chibunna was quite happy to draw them in champions league.

[@AJ_91]

@@Roger_Diz You are high mate. He was fine with Haaland coming in but he wanted to be a part of the future of the club too. But the board completely cut him off. Now Bayern has no Lewa or Haaland and are struggling in the league against an in form Dortmund.

[@fuzailmalik9280]

As a Barca fan, he has been incredibly professional in the interviews and he seems very happy there. He even said he feels like a kid in a candy shop. So I don't think he was a mercenary, but was mistook for one. a mercenary wouldn't say "something broke in me" when his team decided to not show up to help him.

[@WizoIstGott]

It´s not that Bayern never loved Lewandowski. Lewandowski did incredible things for them and all Bayern friends in my social circle loved the guy to bits. But I understand where the Idea that they didnt comes from. A player of his magnitude would have been immortalized at most other clubs but not at Bayern, which is also a function of timing and attitude. Lewandowski is a true professional, he is loved for his on field perfomance but doesn´t emotionally engage the average fan outside the pitch. Combine that with the fact that he shared an Era with the hyper charismatic Thomas Müller, a german national team hero and bayern youth product, and you can see where most of the love went. Considering his move to Barcelona, this is just how Bayern operates. You could call it ruthless, but Bayern have a strong conviction that nobody is bigger than the club. If you threaten to leave and bring the club into disarray or want unreasonable wages you get the boot, no matter your achievements. Just ask David Alaba.

[@tomtik101]

Lewandowski wanted to leave lol, he didn't get kicked out. Bayern wanted him to play out his contract

[@WizoIstGott]

@@tomtik101 Yes, I'm aware of that. What I'm trying to say is that Bayern is willing to let players like Lewandowski and Alaba go instead of offering them ridiculous contracts like mbappe at psg. But obviously they would have preferred for those players to stay.

[@richteffekt]

Well to be fair, Alaba just asked Bayern to close the gap between him and Lewandowski. Bayern were, in my opinion, unreasonable to deny him that. And have therefore lost a lot of competitive edge in the Champions League. Which Alaba's new team won btw. So much for "unreasonable".

[@gadget00]

@@richteffekt I agree; they didn;t appreciate enough what Alaba had done all this years, and had to eat their own words watching him raise the UCL cup with Madrid THE IMMEDIATE FOLLOWING SEASON after letting him go

[@quadro1337]

@@WizoIstGott what do you offer for a player who outdid himself in terms of performance for 8 years? A boot? And then you demand love and devotion? Is it just a German thing or i just don't get it?

[@maspingon]

This is partially true. You said like he was invisable at Bayern. The truth is, in past 5 years no Bayern fan could even imagine the team without him, starting eleven was Lewandowski and anyone else. I remember when he was out due to injury to Real Madrid CL game in quater final(or was that semi final?), everyone felt doomed that time, we all knew Bayern won't win without him and that's exactly what happened. The same happened 2 years ago when he was out with PSG. When he was on the pitch, everything was possible. You said he didn't play well with Real in CL, so Real didn't want him. That's a lie - I remeber that time, he played injured in that game and a transfer wasn't even considered at that time. He played only because team needed him, even when he could give 50%.

[@danielfusha4708]

Thing is lewy was never a man to show up on big games, 2015 had 2 clear chances that should’ve been scored and would’ve very well changed the match! 2018 against real was a horrendous match for him, couldn’t even control a ball I remember! In the cl winning year he wasn’t decisive, scored against chelsea but gnabry had already closed the tie in the first game, scored against a 5-2 losing barca, scored a goal against lyon at the 89 min, appearance on the final was good but he never sparked joy in our hearts! Like mabye ronaldo did, that’s why imo he’s not a bayern legend, never liked him, wasn’t a man to connect with the fans, and the fact that he disappeared in big matches added to the fans really not seeing him as mabye a club legend! Still a world class striker and a machine, but in a bundesliga where bayern have been dominating for 10 years it doesn’t mean much

[@maspingon]

@@danielfusha4708 Are you tripping? In 2 matches with Chelsea (7:0) Lewandowski had 3 goals and 4 assists.

[@danielfusha4708]

@@maspingon gnabry finnished the game, literally, he wasn’t a big game player at bayern and that’s fax

[@bartomiejm2160]

There is also the infamous german mentality and attitude towards poles. At negotiating table a pretty heavy phrase was dropped: "it cannot be that a pole can earn more than a german". Even though Lewandowski has become a superstar by then

[@nowitzkt4857]

where u got that information from lewis grandma??!😂😂😂 And as a polish guy living in germany i never experienced that „infamous“ mentality against me

[@abdullahshaikh4422]

despite everything you’ve done for them they’ll hate you the one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail

[@RafhiLP]

I think you interpret way too much into this. The only reason he left in my opinion was that he did not win the Ballon d'Or. He realised that with Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga his efforts would not be taken into account the same way a similiar performance in a different league would be. He wants to win the Ballon d'Or and he can't do that with Bayern as the Bundesliga is seen as inferior by journalists around the globe.

[@NoCluYT]

If he was German, they would be treating him like Gerd Muller. It’s sad how someone who’s arguably their greatest ever was disrespected like that.

[@robslebowski6776]

I kinda feel that Lewandowski will connect more with Barcelona fans, because of his new energy and motivation after 12 years in the Bundesliga. I feel like he will not only be a lethal goalscorer but also an assist provider more than ever, atleast that is my impression from his official debut against Pumas. He was involved in 4 out of 6 goals.

[@MatchesMalone91939]

I doubt it. El habla espanol? lol

[@dariusrana8487]

I agree. He already seems to have more of a connection with the fans. If he puts up Bayern like numbers and leads them to trophies Barca fans will revere him more than Bayern fans .

[@robslebowski6776]

@@MatchesMalone91939 He will habla espanol/catalan dont worry.

[@biker3762]

@@MatchesMalone91939 and you tu lo hablas???? look at his games how well he conects witht he spanairds como de jong cuando vino no sabia y que temporada hizo

[@giovannichardonne3545]

Although Lewandowski is brilliant, no doubt one of the top 5 strikers in the world and admired by Bayern fans he is not so iconic or beloved because he plays with two of the club's greatest living legends: Thomas Muller and Neuer. Thomas Muller for me is Bayern's face, he is for Bayern what Messi was for Barcelona, I can't imagine him outside Bayern. And Neuer is perhaps the most important player of the team, the defenses he made have secured the 19/20 Champions much more than the goals.

[@alexkox3467]

top 5 ??? 😂

[@johngillis5436]

LoL. top 5? muller like messi? (messi left barca) all for the money. nice insight. im laughing.

[@thvf2381]

Easy: he ain't german. no matter how many seasons he done, or trophies he helped bayern got, he'll never be in your "iconic/beloved" players.

[@EliasRoy]

@@johngillis5436 Messi left Barça for money? Check your facts properly mister

[@nemanjamarjanovic6041]

Great video, I would just add that, in a way, he went away just as he came in. Forcing a move from a team who needed him to a team for which he hopes he could win more individual trophies. I would like to hear opinions of BVB supporters on this situation.

[@Smido83]

I dont think anyone in Dortmund feels any ill will towards Lewa. He wanted to take the next step in his career, same as Harland did this summer, or Sancho did the year before. We know we are just a develomental club for the Top10 clubs in Europe. BUT in comparison to players like Mkhitaryan or Dembele, he didnt force a trade. Those guys burned the bridges in Dortmund. Lewa just said he wants to leave, Dortmund said he has to stay, so he did and played great for us the last season without complaining. So no hard feelings whatsoever... He was just in line with so many other guys that got their international breakout here and then left. Kagawa, Pulisic, Sancho, Gündogan, Aubameyang, Götze, Hummels, Dembele, Mkhitaryan, Haarland ... all came to Dortmund relatively unknown and left after 4 years or less as Star players.... It is what it is... Bellingham and Adeyemi will be next, and Moukoko will also not stay long term, if he gets his breakout season...

[@nemanjamarjanovic6041]

​@@Smido83 That's actualy a really mature way of dealing with this kind of situation, especially for a football fanbase. I mean, Halaand did leave the club, but he didn't leave for a domestic rival and with that, made his club less competitive and the main rival for the title stronger. For that kind of view, you need to accept the lack of ambition which in the place where I'm from, simply isn't something a fanbase would accept. But kudos to those who are that mature.

[@abdallahhanoud5894]

@@nemanjamarjanovic6041 this is nonsense Götze and Hummels did the same actually Hummels plays for BVB now and is the second Captain 🤷‍♂️

[@Smido83]

@@abdallahhanoud5894 Yeah... we know how it works. I mean we get the best players from other, smaller german clubs, Bayern from us.. This year for example Schlotterbeck from Freiburg, Modeste/Özchan from Köln. Götze is a special case though... the was from our own youth system and said openly he loves Dortmund and hopes he can stay his entire career here... and then demanded a trade just months later... Hummels was from the Bayern youth system. I think his father was even a trainer for Bayern... he came here to play and develop, did that, won 2 national championships for us along the way and then went back to his original club in Bayern... No ill will or fake "love confession " there. Well both came back to Dortmund. But Götze after he couldnt get it done, Hummels after he was a starter for several years... One is still beloved, the other one played here for a couple of seasons, but it was never the same again...

[@aymane9489]

@@Smido83 Nope. Do you remember how he treated us? Sell me to Bayern in the summer of 2013 or I will walk for free next summer. Director back then was like I don't want to be named the one who sold him to our rivals, so I'll offer him a contract knowing he's refusing it. Lewandowski is a cold hearted mf. That's all he's. I see him as a piece of shet. He's one of the best, but he's still a piece of shet. What kind of a player wants to walk away the year you didn't win the Bundesliga after 2 straight Bundesliga seasons wins. And he did force a transfer, were you born yesterday? He forced a move so hard, he actually didn't wanna renew or leave in next January so we can gain some fees to replace him. He straight walked out the door.

[@snowman01]

Great upload Tifo. I love these cultural/historical insights that we, outside of Europe + UK, are oblivious to

[@dbkarman]

UK is in Europe...

[@로렌조-o7b]

Don't trust them too much. Their view seems very culturally biased, too. I believe the vast majority of Bayern would not agree with the views and conclusion from the video.

[@woodside4life]

@@dbkarman don’t open up that can of worms…

[@AM2K2]

@@woodside4life it physically is - Europe is a continent, not a political union

[@munchlarry2585]

@@로렌조-o7b as a native Bavarian, I for one can tell you that this video is near spot on. While he was adored for his goals, he never really opened up to us fans in his 8 years. And now all my friends who are fans of Bayern really cannot stand him after his recent interviews. While I don’t speak for all Bayern fans, but for those in Munich, the majority are glad to move on from the Lewandowski chapter Excuse any of my poor english.

[@ironicman6900]

best striker of our generation

[@jjimenez3182]

Pues en Barcelona le veo como pez en el agua. De todos es el más motivado de lejos, se le ve sonreír hasta en los entrenos. Se nota que tiene la confianza de todo el equipo y ya se siente clave. Sabía que el juego de toque encajaría perfectamente con Lewy pero no sólo se adaptó, es referencia, pelea cada balón y contagia a todos para dar su mejor versión.

[@naitsebs]

Se adaptó muchísimo más rápido que Suárez que se demoró no se cuántos partidos en marcar su primer gol. Y eso que Lewa no tiene a Messi proveyéndole balones cada nada.

[@ninoperisi2210]

Even if he didn’t make a great emotional attachment with the club or the players, our interests (The club’s and Lewy’s) were directly aligned, in that he wanted goals, wins, and titles, as did Bayern. At the end of the day, he’ll be a club legend purely for the contribution of goals and titles and that’s fine. Not every footballer needs to have the same emotional connection to a club like Robben or Ribery.

[@timstradley5819]

I almost cried watching robben and ribery’s last match with Bayern. The emotion was palpable especially given the circumstances of the match. Seeing both of them score is one of my favorite football memories ever. Lewandowski could never have a moment like that at Bayern

[@timstradley5819]

And for the record I agree 100% with your assessment lol, was just emphasizing how much we loved Robbery

[@timstradley5819]

@Kamil S I wouldn’t say he had a bad attitude but he’s always been solely interested in his own legacy not the legacy of clubs he’s played for. Which isn’t necessarily bad it just isn’t what Bayern is about

[@timstradley5819]

@Kamil S I agree with you it’s a team sport. Im saying lewandowski operates in a manner that prioritizes personal achievement over team achievement. It helps the teams he plays for because he scores almost on command. But it does nothing to grow the club’s culture beyond what it was before he arrived there

[@BrianWong0816]

If this was true he wont even be bothered to go back to Munich after the tour with Barca to make the final farewell. Despite the drama, I still love him as a Bayern fan and wish him the best.

[@sblorenzo1041]

It’s always vibes in Bayern they always have a great team so the fans are never used to seeing any other side of him, seemingly bored of outstanding performances all the time. But then you have Harry Kane who’s never always had a great team but has a great connection with his fans.

[@itdenelll]

Bro’s got the team to score bucketloads but of course it’s all about the ‘connection’.

[@casperguo7177]

Only time will tell… Robery were the heroes I watched growing up and they will be the greatest Bayern players in my mind for a long time to come. Maybe kids watching Robert growing up will feel the same way

[@simonboyenielsen3287]

Bayern doesn't deserve him, he seems much more empathic and human than most superstars, just because he doesn't idolises his club, he loves the fans

[@DiabloDon]

Lewandowski is a club legend. He was a vital part of Bayern's most succesful season in 2020. However, he will never be on the same level like Ribery, Robben, Sxhweinsteiger, Müller, Neuer etc., because Bayern was like a stepstone in his business plan.

[@TurboFist0]

How was it a stepping stone? By the time he retires the majority of his prime years will have been given to Bayern. He used Dortmund as a stepping stone to get to an elite club like Bayern, but you can't call it a stepping stone when a player leaves at age 34 to try a new challenge after having won everything with a club.

[@thvf2381]

mind u he got transfered to bayern for FREE

[@lukeschofield574]

Tbf I always thought that Bayern was just the epitome of that German mentality that only goals/ winning matters. Everyone on the team is just expected to do their role to win all the matches, no feelings involved. Seems perfect for him. But I'm very glad that he's happy at Barca

[@chrisnowak3341]

Lewandowski does carry himself in a machine-like fashion. It's what made him become so good. Bayern also acts very machine-like when it comes to dealing with players. It's always business, rather than emotion. In this case Bayern had Lewy for another year on contract and were looking at Haaland and not willing to work on extending Lewy's contract. Lewy in the past also indicated he wanted to leave for Real Madrid, so in the end I understand both sides of the story, as a Bayern and Lewy fan. We had Lewy for 8 amazing years. Only the awkward exit which I think both parties contributed to its awkwardness has made it seem like Lewy wasn't fully loved.

[@ky5059]

True, the way he carries himself is so Germany/Bayern like, that Perfect/Robotic aura

[@kris8263]

Bayern treats his legends businesslike once they reach a certain age, by offering yearly contracts. A loving relationship needs to come from both parties to work. When Lewy said "something has broken" he didn't refer to Haaland but to the fact that Bayern has tried to blackmail him saying that he'll either sign a contract or he'll be sitting in the stands. Lewy came to Bayern as a free transfer and gave the club a lot of return financially and increased club's recognition, especially in Poland. The fact he was treated stone cold after giving so much to the club and Bayern not willing to accept anything less than 45 million by itself shows the cold businesslike philosophy of Bayern and Germans. They wanted to squeeze every penny out of him even if it meant ruining the relationship between them. In a true loving relationship both parties are more than willing to make sacrifices for eachother especially considering long standing relationship. If I were a top player I would think twice before signing with Bayern seeing how self oriented they are.

[@florentbajrami4969]

You have an obvious bias against Bayern. Yearly contracts for 30+ players are quite common in European football. Wanting a 3 year contract with salary increase at 34 years is not quite the "loving relationship" sign from Lewandowski too, considering how Bayern try to maintain their salary structure and not inflate the market like many other big clubs. 45 million is fair for a player of Lewa's quality and his importance at the club. Maybe things could change if Bayern could transfer another striker, but since they couldn't ofc they will set a price tag that suits their needs. As for your last point, many big players are really attracted by Bayern (as shown by Mane, de Ligt etc) so I doubt they really care about your "ifs" or Lewandowski's similar statement.

[@kris8263]

@@florentbajrami4969 You just confirmed my point. Bayern does what Bayern wants regardless of player's history with the club. Is 45 million fair to ask for Lewy? Sure, but considering he came as a free transfer and produced at a level he did year after year is distasteful. This is a cold, businesslike treatment at a cost of relationships. Money above all else. Money above letting a player go a little cheaper without hiking up the drama and stress levels. Hey, you got the money but you lost respect in some peoples eyes just because of your unwillingness to compromise. I don't want to generalize but that is a typical German trait. A polish mentality incorporates the willingness to sacrifice for the benefit of both parties involved. That is what Lewy has been saying publicly. He expected to sit down, talk and come to a solution that would benefit all. Just like in marriage or any type of relationship/friendship...nobody likes the person who always expects to have it their way. Heck Lewy even went back and visited the team and management on his last trip to Munich without holding grudges and without pride. Meanwhile Bayern hasn't even given him a proper farewell. It's easy to see which side the pride resides.

[@dipalokbal3556]

Every club signs young players when their tailsman starts ageing.. show me a exception.. you're obviously and clearly too biased

[@oceanizedhappiness1457]

Agree with you - but for me especially in a league like the Bundesliga where passion is so rampant in many clubs, this just feels a bit too cold.

[@johnnymokumba9620]

@@kris8263 Tell me you're Polish without telling me you're Polish...

[@PersimmonHurmo]

He's a machine among the germans, which is very respectful.

[@buzzerbeaterbuzzerbeater9001]

People tend to forget the 9 before Lewa, Mandzukic was also very good at Bayern and won all with them.

[@pedropete52]

the reason for his "lack of love" boils down to the fact that he is a Pole in Germany.

[@andrei19238]

Germans are racist

[@daethmer7834]

Thats not really true, Muller is German but he was invited to wedding and they are great friends

[@Gillxy]

Why would that matter?

[@albertsosnowski6172]

You forgot to mention German mentality that also played some role in his attitude towards the club. The relation always needs two parts.

[@Thiaghotheeye]

As a Bayern Fan from 🇳🇬, lewy. I will forever be grateful. This video is so spot on. It’s sad his legacy isn’t as big as it should be but I understand my club and his point. I love lewy and again grateful he came. For free too. We should have pushed to make sure he won more but it’s not our style. I will tell my kids he was our greatest striker.

[@niltonjunior2081]

Within 10 years all these minor things will be forgotten and Bayern's fans will remember they saw a legend on the field

[@thvf2381]

right they are still in their bargaining/depression stages of grief.

[@szymondybowski7868]

When he played for the club you would have read and see videos stating 'what the club and the fans love about him', once he left is the opposite. And this is about all areas of modern world where people are exposed to media... Politicians, celebrities, etc., etc.

[@harderway8568]

After only a few bad games, everybody started complaining about Mario Goetze - the fans, media, legends - everyone. Underperforming. Not good enough etc. Fans lose all their patience, love and respect quickly and ask for another superstar to join the club. Leva was respected for his goals but not for who he was, and I think he knew that well.

[@alohatigers1199]

Like I said, the club can and will replace you. This is why loyalty does not exist in sports. Or in life. This is why players should be selfish and think for themselves because the club nor the fans can and will hate you one day. Loyalty does not exist. So why should a player be loyal to a club if the club isn’t loyal to the player. Think about it

[@latifzaman830]

Only time will make people appreciate more his legacy..

[@sirquarter5729]

One Newspaper put it that way: Lewandowski goes as a legend but without emotions- best description so far...

[@monsterwith21faces92]

As a Bayern fan, I always felt like he was a guest at the club we knew he will leave at some point unlike Muller Ribery Robben alaba and Neuer who we love with our life

[@kevinrod14]

@Anime Senpai there’s always split feelings between fans.

[@monsterwith21faces92]

@Anime Senpai I always loved Lewy he my favourite player alongside Muller what i am saying is what i think is the reason many Bayern fans didn't love him as much as Ribery Robben or Neuer

[@ferigeooo9583]

@Anime Senpai where did the comment exactly say that he wont love or respect him? He just said its not the same

[@johnnysins9054]

You Bayern fans are clowns he’s a club legend and you call him a “Guest” 🤡

[@MALITH666]

@Anime Senpai Thats nit picking. Lewa is loved with us, but Lewa will never reach the levels of Muller ,Neuer, Robben. This video gives the best examples. No matter how much we love, there was a line he maintained with the club. Post Pep he was always keeping a foot out of the club. But we are always grateful for the performance he gave us last decade, and wish all the best (except when against us :D) in his Barca career.

[@10848514959]

Emotional connection is more the domain if fans than it is players. Fans spend their lifetimes following clubs, it's their lifelong passion/hobby. Players are going to work - it's their careers, so they're doing what's best for themselves personally as the number one priority, with the club coming second, which is how it should be. There are obvious exceptions to this - Gerrard, Scholes, Puyol, Maldini, etc., but it would be silly to expect otherwise from players that didn't grow up near that club.

[@kimyugyummy5709]

I wanna see if the kids from Barcelona can make him feel like home, I know some players that went through Barcelona left with bitter feelings but they also left with warm feelings bc Barcelona is more than a club.

[@faintcry]

It's interesting, because if you see media and interviews of recent.. It really does seem like he's found a home even if it's just Barca. Maybe it was a good choice to go to Barca (saying this w/o bias) .. with how he said "something died within him" in Bayern.. time will tell. But so far, I really do think he's at home in Barca currently (although, hopefully he adjusts his playmaking since the wc...)

[@DREAMWORKERSKY]

When he was at the club everyone loved him. Now he leaves they call him a "passenger."

[@ferigeooo9583]

It was more or less him who gave him that name smh

[@santiagoch2451]

Plenty of Bayern fans have a lot of love for Lewy still, it's not as cold as the video suggests

[@gandalf_thegrey]

@@santiagoch2451 The video might be the worst take ove ever heard by Tifo. Twitter reactions are not the real world. I absolutely hate the FC Bayern (I just say a few words... DFB Pokal Final 97/98, screw you Tarnat) Fans still love him to bits. An overwhelmingly majority in fact. The same kind of generalisation people made with the Spurs when one idiot burned the Ericsson shirt.

[@generalpierogi7781]

@@gandalf_thegrey Yeah im tired of these fake fans

[@lps2013]

Some might, qute a few won't. twitter isn't the world of football.

[@ianmendham6671]

Defo one of the top 5 strikers of the past decade and will always be an all-time great.

[@jcxz983]

When german Chancellor Willy Brandt had to leave office he was told that he had been truly loved by the people. His successor would only ever be respected. Brandt answered that he would have preferred it the other way 'round. In a tough business being respected as a hard nosed professional isn't a bad thing. Lewandowski certainly had his reasons to just go for the goals, rather than the tears. No reason to blame him for that.

[@WildwoodClaire1]

Interesting interpretation of recent Bayern history and Lewandowski's role in it.

[@roland7565]

This "interpretation" is pretty much the opinion of most ppl who follow Bayern and the Bundesliga so it can´t be that wrong. Read the other comments here

[@WildwoodClaire1]

@@roland7565 It may be an accurate assessment but your suggestion that something is true if a majority of people believe it is risible.

[@jakobsmith4046]

I think perhaps in 15 years or so Bayern will come to cherish him more than they had before

[@uzaibmusavi.2705]

We love him here at barca, he'd end his career here as the greatest no.9 of this generation♡

[@rizzoli7]

I always felt like Lewy wasn’t really appreciated by Bayern. Not like cr7 with RM or Juve, or Messi with Barca. Sad

[@ferigeooo9583]

He was more than appreciated by the Club...he just comletly went the wrong way in the last months

[@ama6487]

Nah, CR7 was similar to Lewandowski when in RM. In Juventus, he was 'treated' worse

[@christianopulinaldo8319]

Thats bcuz ronaldo and messi are 🐐s and were the best player in their clubs for a long time Lewandoski was never the best player in bayern before 2019 It was always robben/neuer/ribery

[@vivien8417]

@@ama6487 what? juventus loved ronaldo, i remember the anticipation when the transfer was announced. and it juventus fans that started the trend of yelling suiiiii with ronaldo when he does his celebration

[@gandalf_thegrey]

Because he was never the Messi or Ronaldo to Bayern. He was rather the Iniesta to Bayerns real Messis like Neuer or Müller. That's not "not appreciated". They absolutely loved him.

[@aliticx]

The animations and production of this video is nicer than usual, keep this style please.

[@prascoooooo]

Lewy was bound to be a Bayern legend. Fans always backed him. Despite poor Bayern PR, fans were in full swing adamant to get him the Ballon d'or, but truth be told, Lewy has mostly been an individual player than a team player. The board didn't treat him well but the way he reacted was clearly disrespectful to the fans who have always backed him. Now as the video suggests his legacy remains contested.