The Story of Don Revie & "Dirty Leeds"

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@jacklittlejohn1857
@jacklittlejohn1857 4 жыл бұрын
Please do more of these longer style videos,enjoyed this.
@stephenreeds3672
@stephenreeds3672 4 жыл бұрын
Leeds were loathsome. Liverpool had v similar history but played with style. Revie was I think a rather mixed up person and reflected in his management. They weren't "hard" they were nasty. See Hunter backing away from Franny Lee who was half his size. Giles punching Keegan from behind. Why? Trying to get the ball. Sickening.
@CB-xr1eg
@CB-xr1eg 4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenreeds3672 Hunter backed off from Lee who was swinging wildly and acting like a maniac, (the Roy Keane of his day) most sensible people would do that. But I can't see how backing off makes someone "nasty". Explain?
@MrBlazemaster525
@MrBlazemaster525 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenreeds3672 Leeds never murdered fans now did they?
@DukeCanibus
@DukeCanibus Жыл бұрын
word bro
@boum62
@boum62 Жыл бұрын
Johnny lyle of whu ... Harry Bassett of Wimbledon?
@GenericUserNameHere
@GenericUserNameHere 4 жыл бұрын
Love or Hate Don Revie you can’t tell the story of English Football without him. If you try you’re doing a disservice. Class video
@jackmiller-johnston8689
@jackmiller-johnston8689 4 жыл бұрын
Which is why I find it a bit of tragedy that he's isn't talked about as much as he should today. Assume certain rumours played a part in that
@normanby100
@normanby100 4 жыл бұрын
Without Revie, Jack Charlton wouldn't have been in the world cup winning side but sulking and causing trouble in a mid-table 2nd division side.
@chelsblue7370
@chelsblue7370 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackmiller-johnston8689 Rumours, my arsenal. When they come from multiple sources, they are not rumours, they're just hushed up facts, because the scandal would likely have caused repercussions even beyond LUFC.
@saab2906
@saab2906 4 жыл бұрын
Chelsblue73 what rumours?
@dysplasiagiraffe4845
@dysplasiagiraffe4845 3 жыл бұрын
@@chelsblue7370 bit like your owner being a jacked up swindler who capitalises on the misfortunes of his nation and our dear old planet at large, small club big money
@bapsmcginty4782
@bapsmcginty4782 4 жыл бұрын
The man who brought me Leeds United while all around me shouted for Man U or Liverpool. Its been eventful to say the least. ALAW MOT
@WaterCarrier07
@WaterCarrier07 4 жыл бұрын
It’s bizarre how after all that success and rivalry with Clough, he’s faded into irrelevance from outside of being a leeds fan
@Liofa73
@Liofa73 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Waterfall --- It's because he was known to try to pay off other teams, various managers spoke about it in the Match of the 70s series.
@MrRJT86
@MrRJT86 4 жыл бұрын
Unlike Clough, Revie was a cheat. Just like Leeds United.
@donnyannessa654
@donnyannessa654 4 жыл бұрын
Trial by public opinion.
@mikehunt7810
@mikehunt7810 4 жыл бұрын
He's known in boro cos he is from teesside
@Makkajakka
@Makkajakka 4 жыл бұрын
@G G If VAR favours Liverpool so much, then why did they not get clear penalties given against Newcastle and Southampton? Why wasn't Man Utd's goal pulled back for a foul on Origi in the build-up? And why was Firmino's onside goal against Aston Villa adjudged to be offside? The only reason morons like yourself think that VAR favours Liverpool, is that Liverpool have NEVER lost a game in which they have got a questionable VAR decision given against them, at the point of writing. You're just too bitter to give credit where credit's due to Liverpool's world class quality and mentality.
@BigBlack81
@BigBlack81 4 жыл бұрын
18 minutes?! Insane length, but suitable for such a character. Bravo, TiFo.
@zargonthemagnificent330
@zargonthemagnificent330 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. 18 whole minutes. That's, like, an entire lifetime dude. Average attention span of the standard KZbin user is about 18 seconds at most, so this is like reading War and Peace for them. They'll be dead before it finishes.
@notjani6415
@notjani6415 4 жыл бұрын
BigBlack81 nice profile picture
@Kelly14UK
@Kelly14UK 4 жыл бұрын
Second time i've watched it.
@BigBlack81
@BigBlack81 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kelly14UK Just watched it through again myself.
@Kelly14UK
@Kelly14UK 4 жыл бұрын
@@BigBlack81 Sidebar shows he's done a wee bit on Clough as well. I'll watch it sooner or later this week, been watching The Damned Utd clips for the past hour : )
@ricardopinheiro4059
@ricardopinheiro4059 4 жыл бұрын
One romantic story. I'm plunging through the English football history and never came across this one. This video really absorbs you! Great work.
@troygrindley3793
@troygrindley3793 4 жыл бұрын
He was very ahead of his game in the English leagues in terms of scouting and tactics, yet for a scientific man was so superstitious
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 4 жыл бұрын
his techniques and mentality were noted and espoused by Martin O'Neill , one of the three managers exempted from the UEFA Super Licence (Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger are the other 2). Revie's scouting and training regime are , somewhat indirectly part of the USL now
@RamsFan93
@RamsFan93 4 жыл бұрын
pull the other one. Don Revie was a crook.
@maxpowerii7368
@maxpowerii7368 4 жыл бұрын
Chish and Fips funny despite taking £7.5k from the Daily Mirror Gary Sprake was never willing to repeat the allegations under oath at court. London media just never liked a northern industrial city succeeding.
@CB-xr1eg
@CB-xr1eg 4 жыл бұрын
@@RamsFan93 How easy it is to come on a comment section throwing acusations around with no proof. Where you even born when Revie managed Leeds? Show some evidence of what you're saying or just stfu.
@jimtuite3451
@jimtuite3451 3 жыл бұрын
@@SantomPh nonsense. This methids were based in cheating and manipulation...utter rubbish to say they form any textbooks guidelines today
@beds139
@beds139 4 жыл бұрын
It is largely forgotten now that Revie was an innovative top class player in his day and played 6 times for England. He was credited with being the first deep lying centre forward in English football in the 1950s. However,even during his playing days he was a prickly character and moved clubs regularly. He took his somewhat obsessive character into management which proved to be his greatest strength but also a significant weakness. He worked wonders to rejuvenate Leeds in the early 1960s and turn them into a force to be reckoned with by the end of the decade. But he made many enemies along the way because of the "combative" style his team employed.All the top clubs in this era,with the possible exception of Clough's Derby, had their cloggers but at times Leeds did take things too far. Revie was totally unapologetic about this which infuriated the big wigs at the Football League even more. His team won a lot but should have won even more. There were some unjust losses,especially the 1973 European Cup Winners Cup Final, and other occasions where the team just did not show up in vital games.The 1973 Cup Final loss to Sunderland is the most obvious example. Revie's legacy is ultimately clouded over the allegations against him of trying to bribe opposition players to throw games. Yes he was never charged or convicted of anything, but at the height of the allegations in the late 1970s he was a rich man and could have chosen to sue the national newspapers who made the allegations.... but he chose not to.
@top10mediocrity
@top10mediocrity 4 жыл бұрын
Man, Gary Sprake gets a hard time here. First called 'Barry Sprake' and then 'Gary Spark'
@Telcontar1962
@Telcontar1962 4 жыл бұрын
Alec James thanks for confirming, I thought my ears were playing tricks on me.
@posner89
@posner89 4 жыл бұрын
Let this great video down massively.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 4 жыл бұрын
Alec James I’m glad you confirmed that for me I thought I was hearing things!!
@DannyB_7
@DannyB_7 4 жыл бұрын
Thinking the same thing. Biggest own goal since Barry Spark threw the ball into his own net.
@portcullis5622
@portcullis5622 4 жыл бұрын
It just undermines the whole film. I thought it was quite balanced otherwise.
@ECH0ChAOs
@ECH0ChAOs 4 жыл бұрын
BTW, "The damned United" is an excellent movie. Covers this and highly recommend it.
@Reubonics
@Reubonics 4 жыл бұрын
I concur.
@shaneclapham1676
@shaneclapham1676 4 жыл бұрын
Good movie but a lot of it is falsified for dramatic effect. They hardly delve into revies character.
@shanewright2772
@shanewright2772 4 жыл бұрын
The Damned United is a fiction. Clough, magnificent bastard that he was, deserved the truth of his story to be told.
@richardking3206
@richardking3206 4 жыл бұрын
The film is a take on Clough, not Leeds. The book is, too, really, but it’s style carries a lot of it forward, relying on what it shows went on in Clough’s head, which the author couldn’t possibly have known. Neither are an attempt to portray the reality of what occurred. No attempt is made to show anything from a Leeds perspective in either fiction.
@leftenantthunder
@leftenantthunder 4 жыл бұрын
@@shaneclapham1676 yea its more of Clough's story rather than Revies. What a performance from Michael Sheen though
@immoralreplicant1332
@immoralreplicant1332 Жыл бұрын
In some ways though, he left one of the most lasting legacies in English football. When they were relegated to the third tier for the first time some years back, it was widely reported that their result on the final day that sent them down was cheered as it came over the tannoy at every ground in the country. From Southampton to Carlisle , Shrewsbury to Norwich , everyone celebrated Leeds' relegation. The majority of those people weren't even alive during the Revie era. That's how enduring the legend of Dirty Leeds is.
@corin492
@corin492 4 жыл бұрын
The story of the rise and fall of Revie's Leeds is worthy of a hollywood movie, full of adversity, triumph and ultimately tragedy. Whatever the rights of wrongs, it is one of the great stories of English football. RIP Mr Revie, a genuine great
@paulodingle2142
@paulodingle2142 4 жыл бұрын
One of the great teams in English football history.
@keyuantejohnson6266
@keyuantejohnson6266 4 жыл бұрын
Chelsea a bigger club than leeds
@CB-xr1eg
@CB-xr1eg 4 жыл бұрын
@@keyuantejohnson6266 Fuck me you're everywhere you sad boring repetive dick head.
@clivebaxter6354
@clivebaxter6354 Жыл бұрын
In your dreams
@paulodingle2142
@paulodingle2142 Жыл бұрын
@@clivebaxter6354 not my dreams mate I do t support them
@CountFisco
@CountFisco Жыл бұрын
Love this video length. Obviously takes longer to produce but 15-20 minutes means you can get truly invested and understanding of the topics mentioned. Bravo
@dcw127
@dcw127 4 жыл бұрын
Strangely Revie and Clough were more alike than we probably think. They were both managers who believed in recruitment at a time where loyalty to your team was everything. They used different training methods and techniques. But, most of all, they highlighted the need for European success. Before the 60's British teams didn't do European football, it was a luxury few could afford or want. Revie and Clough were 15 years ahead of their time. I think Liverpool in the 80's under Shankly finally saw that comparison between the two men.
@charleswilkinson4458
@charleswilkinson4458 4 жыл бұрын
Him and cloughie were in a class of their own. Although I preferred clough's football you cant doubt how good and genius revie was
@dilipkhednah
@dilipkhednah 4 жыл бұрын
A short, and very interesting video and to the point as well. He changed Leeds from nobodys to a team to fear. He won a lot of trophies with Leeds, but it could have been more if it wasn't for so many games being played in other tournaments. When he left Leeds for the England job, it didn't go the way it was expected to. I think he should of come back to ER at some point when Leeds were going through a bad patch. He is Leeds,and will be Leeds.
@cjmq1970
@cjmq1970 4 жыл бұрын
He didn’t win as many silverware as he projected, he and Leeds were one of the greatest first-runners in the English football. However, I enjoy watching the FA Cup final when defeated Arsenal, it was well-played footbal, as much dynamic as nowadays matches.
@solomonbrown2476
@solomonbrown2476 9 ай бұрын
1970 was better😉
@alankirkby465
@alankirkby465 4 жыл бұрын
I'm Man city fan, older enough to remember when he played for Man City saw him playing for City Reserves when at one time when he couldn't get in City first team.
@keyuantejohnson6266
@keyuantejohnson6266 4 жыл бұрын
Don revie a legend at man city
@coachhbosoccer
@coachhbosoccer 4 жыл бұрын
I am Liverpool all the way but i was close to being Leeds when Eric Cantona was there. That TV debate with Clough is infamous
@michealflaithbheartaigh4139
@michealflaithbheartaigh4139 4 жыл бұрын
Just proving the plastic nature of the fan base that follows the Sky 6
@coachhbosoccer
@coachhbosoccer 4 жыл бұрын
@@michealflaithbheartaigh4139 actually, it was a coverage issue. I am British but I lived in Madagascar at the time and they just didn't show Leeds enough, no premier league packages then I read more about them more than i actually watched. So no, I'm not a band wagoner
@kevinbeck6785
@kevinbeck6785 4 жыл бұрын
As a liverpool fan and being brought up in the greatest football era ever, and i would not call leeds dirty it was the era when football was hard with hard players, not the rolling round and screaming we have today. playing on bowling green pitches, and with a nice light ball to kick.
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
They were basically informed by the shocking methods of Italy and Spain etc. That's unfortunately why Dundee, Liverpool (Shankly v Inter) and Derby suffered in 60s and 70s outings because they all basically played by the rules - and Forest got a lucky break quite frankly when UEFA finally woke up to the likes of Juvē and other S. European teams. I think the rancour comes from the fact the League and FA turned a blind eye to their behaviour because they were seen as England's best bet in Europe early on.
@wildbill6826
@wildbill6826 4 жыл бұрын
The ball. Hate it & it changed football. It has all the dynamics of a indoor smaller ball. It has made the game quicker & thus tackles are much less. Till the end of the millennium and from about 1966 it was unchanged, yes the pre war & fifties the ball was a lumpen thing & as said it was changed & perfect for all these decades. Mighty Whites keep fighting.
@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin
@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin 4 жыл бұрын
@@wildbill6826 Yep, the ball was a crucial change. Once it became impermeable, and therefore much lighter in practice, it made the game play more and more like a court sport. Add the stealth synthetic surfaces, slippers for boots and protection of the ball carrier, and the competitive game now looks like astropark training. Or a weird, trivial basketball/handball with a touch of ice hockey style game.
@rayratchford8338
@rayratchford8338 2 жыл бұрын
Dirtyest team evet
@ronoccc
@ronoccc Жыл бұрын
As the famous George Best quote goes ‘every team had a hard man, leeds had 11 of them’
@pault8470
@pault8470 4 жыл бұрын
I,m a die hard liverpool fan but the Leeds team of the 70s was fantastic
@dinerouk
@dinerouk 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Keegan said it was sad that Revie had not been accorded the respect he deserved and according to Alan ball, M Allison and several other players/coaches, they were the best team Britain has ever produced, one said that they were the first professional club, ie, everything was planned and practised to achieve the maximum efficiency. Yes, they were hard and would 'try it on' when the ref was not looking, but other teams were hard and on the fringe of what Leeds did. Shankly, a great rival, never criticised them for being dirty and said their games against each other were the great games of football. Both of the managers and teams had the greatest respect for one another.
@ElectricSoulShow
@ElectricSoulShow 4 жыл бұрын
@@dinerouk Well said Peter
@MrGoalissimo
@MrGoalissimo 4 жыл бұрын
reevie accomplishments speak for themselves what he achieved was truly exceptional.
@johnwise6633
@johnwise6633 4 жыл бұрын
Don Revie was a grate manager and very under appreciated, I did not realise how far he took Leeds from were he first found them. Your videos are excellent bye the way Tifo
@beds139
@beds139 4 жыл бұрын
He's not under appreciated. He is largely ignored by the media because of the bribery allegations he never addressed.
@dalek3086
@dalek3086 Ай бұрын
great manager
@victorvelasquez1482
@victorvelasquez1482 4 жыл бұрын
this TIFO video about to feel like a movie
@ignitefifahd8017
@ignitefifahd8017 3 жыл бұрын
Don Revie, the greatest manager in Leeds history, and, in my opinion, one of the greatest in, at the very least, English football history.
@clivebaxter6354
@clivebaxter6354 Жыл бұрын
He led a team of thugs and cheats
@Lions4322
@Lions4322 4 жыл бұрын
Revie vs. Clough may resemble the Bilardo vs. Menotti in certain aspects. Cynicism and grit vs. Romanticism
@craigseddon4884
@craigseddon4884 4 жыл бұрын
Don Revie: you get nowt for being second vs Brian Clough: I do believe in fairies
@petehall1985
@petehall1985 2 жыл бұрын
And we know who the better and more universally manager was. I don't remember there being a minute of silence throughout the football pyramid after revie died....
@briansmith8313
@briansmith8313 4 жыл бұрын
A superb team that never got the recognition they deserved
@steveluckhurst2350
@steveluckhurst2350 3 жыл бұрын
debatable.
@Hollows1997
@Hollows1997 4 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough Clough also played up front for Sunderland nearly scoring a goal a game before being forced into management through injury. Then lads boss Alan Brown was said to be the inspiration for Clough’s management style.
@glifosfato
@glifosfato 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't know his story and ngl I teared up a bit at the end. great video as always, Tifo
@tone3817
@tone3817 4 жыл бұрын
Leeds Fans know what a great manager the Don was, we don't give a fk what anyone else thinks MOT !!
@johnclark3697
@johnclark3697 4 жыл бұрын
Nah grade a tosspot.. & bent as a butchers hook
@Jacob.
@Jacob. 4 жыл бұрын
M. O. T. LUFC
@Isleofskye
@Isleofskye 4 жыл бұрын
The dirty play and cheating and harassment by Jack Charlton , Norman ( RIP ) Cooper , Giles , Bremner and Clarkey , in particular , was under Revie. Just seen " The Damned United" and what those thugs DELIBERATELY did to Derby just b4 Derby's European Cup Semi-Final in Juventus when they DELIBERATELY put half the team out injured was disgusting...
@arjunlayall8503
@arjunlayall8503 4 жыл бұрын
@@Isleofskye the damned united is very exagerated
@Isleofskye
@Isleofskye 4 жыл бұрын
Very True. What I thought was ridiculous was the height of the Actor playing Johnny Giles..lol
@maviscoils9672
@maviscoils9672 4 жыл бұрын
The most exciting time at Leeds.... how the southern bums loved to hate us and still do they couldn’t stand how successful we had become.... they all were envious of our success and would not give Leeds any credit what so ever. The mighty Leeds made me a proud Leeds United Supporter and Don Revie and his team will never be forgotten it’s in the History Books 😁 they can’t take that away from us.
@siamesevodka
@siamesevodka 2 жыл бұрын
“how the southern bums loved to hate us” Pipe down son, there’s 2 Lancashire clubs that’ve won 39 top flight league titles between them, let alone the other clubs, how many do you and the rest of Yorkshire have?
@Guyfaulkes1605
@Guyfaulkes1605 2 жыл бұрын
@@siamesevodka best manager who leeds Eva had was clough and he was there for 44 days lol 😆 🤣 😂
@stephenreeds3632
@stephenreeds3632 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't only Southerners who loathed you. The whole country did. And for all the hype, you weren't that successful.
@petersyme7083
@petersyme7083 2 жыл бұрын
Not good enough to beat Celtic in the 1971 European Cup final, Celtic won both matches.
@sayakmitra7502
@sayakmitra7502 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this after watching The Damned United a few weeks back. Great work Tifo !
@hotbeefo
@hotbeefo 4 жыл бұрын
Superb, never knew half of this and wanted a decent roundup.
@laurencefarrell2775
@laurencefarrell2775 3 жыл бұрын
Only one Don Revie, one Don REVIE ,THERES ONLY ONE DON REVIE THANKS BOSS R.I.P
@gingerburns9125
@gingerburns9125 4 жыл бұрын
I have no doubt that if Don Revie wasn't superstitious, he would have been the greatest manager that England had ever produced
@infrasleep
@infrasleep 2 жыл бұрын
I think he needed a Peter Taylor working with him ;someone who would have tempered his superstitions and ultra defensive mode (often applied for no reason or gain) and found a few more players that would have seen them win a lot more-the 1969-70 season of ultimate failure was probably down to just 15 or 16 players being used for an entire league and Cups campaign; they were shagged out!
@fernandosalazar2298
@fernandosalazar2298 4 жыл бұрын
BRAVO!!! When TIFO is good there is nothing like it...
@colinhughes916
@colinhughes916 2 жыл бұрын
Dirty Leeds - As Chelsea Supporter The 1970s Cup Final was a Brutal Game - Red Cards for both teams
@kieronbyrnes1932
@kieronbyrnes1932 4 жыл бұрын
Leeds should’ve won more with the side they had
@roydilcock8411
@roydilcock8411 4 жыл бұрын
Leeds won on the pitch but they were outplayed by the FA and sundry referees. Roy D
@briandavis400
@briandavis400 4 жыл бұрын
Big Jack said it best in one season " We were runners up in the FA CUP lost the league on goal difference to Liverpool knocked out in the semi finals of the fair's cup some players would give their whole career's for a season like that the town was buzzing and we won nothing that year but we were involved in every major trophy right to the last " so true I was a lad then and going down to Elland road to see the Revie aces was magical thanks Don
@stealthiscool
@stealthiscool 4 жыл бұрын
They were robbed of two European trophies tbf
@beds139
@beds139 4 жыл бұрын
@@stealthiscool Agree with that.The 73 Cup Winners final was decided by a bent ref & the 75 final saw a blatant penalty denied (even Beckenbaur admits this) & an incomprehensible decision to disallow Lorimer's goal.
@caomhan84
@caomhan84 4 жыл бұрын
Probably should've had 2 more championships and completely robbed of a European Cup and Cup Winners' Cup.
@johnrinman5341
@johnrinman5341 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic script and video, once again. Thank you Tifo!
@musabelias1240
@musabelias1240 4 жыл бұрын
The last time I was this early there was no affiliation by athletic
@Samwerly
@Samwerly 4 жыл бұрын
Musab Ali very original.....
@timmcelroy2188
@timmcelroy2188 4 жыл бұрын
@@Samwerly Originally on The Atheltic
@jasonsender6568
@jasonsender6568 4 жыл бұрын
God I hate the athletic videos
@ivandojaquez4076
@ivandojaquez4076 4 жыл бұрын
This man has never made a bad video all are top notch quality
@gregmilner100
@gregmilner100 4 жыл бұрын
Brillianty made!
@1000heros
@1000heros 2 жыл бұрын
His achievements, admiration and trophies speak for themselves
@discharge29
@discharge29 Жыл бұрын
''you can take all your medals , trophies , pots and pans and throw them in the nearest bin coz you haven't won any of them fairly'' clough knew the score!!
@jonathanstevenson6753
@jonathanstevenson6753 Жыл бұрын
These videos are some of the best not only on football - but on the platform. well done
@blimeyjoe253
@blimeyjoe253 4 жыл бұрын
His problem was being overshadowed by Clough. Not just that they were around at the same time, but their personal rivalry and how openly Clough criticised him has made Revie seem less like a manager in his own right that a side character in the story of Brian Clough. And I think Clough was a better manager, even if he buggered up his stint at leeds, crucially he had more charisma though, that's why he overshadowed Revie so much
@danielgraham5907
@danielgraham5907 4 жыл бұрын
Clough’s success was after his rivalry with Revie unless you go by the fiction within the movie dammed United. Which is obviously where you have based your opinion from. Revie was successful 60s and 70s. Clough was at derby during that period and were nowhere near of the level of leeds. Clough was far more successful at Nottingham Forest and was there from 75 onwards and ending up relegating them in 93.
@ianshaw2321
@ianshaw2321 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielgraham5907 dcfc football league champions 1971/72
@danielgraham5907
@danielgraham5907 4 жыл бұрын
Ian Shaw yes not forgetting that but just making the point that their consistent successes in their careers were at different times so there was no overshadowing.
@blimeyjoe253
@blimeyjoe253 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielgraham5907 my opinion wasn't based on the damned united on account of the fact I haven't seen it. You're correct, although there is an overlap, their success was at different times. Revie may not have been overshadowed at the time, but now looking back: history kind of forgets Revie unless you're a Leeds fan. I'm just suggesting the reason for that is Clough. Rather than a manager in his own right, he kind of ended up remembered as a footnote to Clough
@kadasrichard
@kadasrichard 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Taylor was a big factor in Clough's achievements.
@chinmaybapat6774
@chinmaybapat6774 4 жыл бұрын
This video is absolutely brilliant..!! A true gem of storytelling! Wow!
@weegoalie146
@weegoalie146 4 жыл бұрын
Could you please do the fall of Queen's Park from the world's best to mid table in Scotland's fourth tier
@clivecarter4618
@clivecarter4618 4 жыл бұрын
Queen Sparke, Gary's mam
@MrBlazemaster525
@MrBlazemaster525 3 жыл бұрын
It's easy - they stuck to their amateur roots as the world around them changed into a professional enterprise
@Isleofskye
@Isleofskye 4 жыл бұрын
How did one Region like The North East provide so many great Managers back then like Cloughie, The Great Sir Bobby Robson and Bob Paisley = FANTASTIC and don't forget Harry Catterick at Everton and Harry Potts winning the Title for Burnley.....!!!
@chriswade9871
@chriswade9871 4 жыл бұрын
He was a man of his time, all of them were fixing matches and tapping up players. Difference is, Revvie was caught. Even the great Brian Clough was involved in this world! Always loved the style of Leeds, brutal no nonsense football, and a family atmosphere off the pitch. Wish football was still played by men, not the Fannie's of today. Sunderland fan
@tub19
@tub19 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 54 and tackles was hard, but they didn't roll round on pitch like they do today. Today they to busy looking good in appearance then delivering on the pitch.
@abbba2007
@abbba2007 4 жыл бұрын
Just appreciating how lengthy this animation is. Superb job!
@darthscouser5255
@darthscouser5255 4 жыл бұрын
Very well researched.......enjoyed it.....do one on howard kendalls great 80s side
@Tifo
@Tifo 4 жыл бұрын
Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5m8g6WAhL5rfaM
@chrisbouttell8447
@chrisbouttell8447 4 жыл бұрын
Cracking video and very interesting to learn more about Leeds United. As a Doncaster fan I think, a video about the "Raising From the Ashes" story of Doncaster Rovers. With our former Chairman Ken Richardson trying to burn the ground down and then John Ryan buying the club and getting us to the championship. Very interesting story I think
@normanby100
@normanby100 4 жыл бұрын
I recall watching Doncaster at Peterborough in the season they got relegated to the Conference and wondering what looked so oddand old-fashioned about their shirts. Then I realised - no sponsors logo. They were that hard-up. They had lost 8-0 at Orient a week or so previous and i went along anticipating a deluge. Rovers ended up winning 1-0. Belle Vue looked pretty decrepit when I watched Scarborough play there the following season.
@banjopiggottwright1802
@banjopiggottwright1802 11 ай бұрын
What a fantastic story, that would certainly suffice as movie material. Well Done Tifo.
@jamescusack6511
@jamescusack6511 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the media have been slogging Leeds ever since they were created as a football club
@Liofa73
@Liofa73 4 жыл бұрын
James Cusack --- That's just was Leeds fans like to think, that they are hard done by...
@MrRJT86
@MrRJT86 4 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve learned and seen, Leeds have fully earned their negative reputation. The media don’t need to do anything, the fans and the club does it all perfectly fine by itself.
@roryforham
@roryforham 4 жыл бұрын
they were a good team but my god were they dirty bastards on the pitch im all for good old fashioned physical english footbal but what they did was closer to GBH than football
@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986
@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 4 жыл бұрын
They hate us because they ain’t us
@shanewright2772
@shanewright2772 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to assume, sir, that you actually saw Leeds play and have some examples in mind that back up your case. But then, what about the Liverpool team, who were always built on a spine of thugs, or Chelsea who had anyone of half a dozen leg breakers at their disposal. Arsenal and Newcastle, too. Birmingham, Stoke, WBA - all bruisers. Even cultured Burnley would give you a shoeing. And good help you if you came across one of the "little" clubs who wandered up into Div 1 back then - Luton, Carlisle et al. They were all dirty bastards back then. Or, more likely, today we have grown up watching soft bastards fatuously prancing about the pitch for mega-dollars and we've become soft bastards ourselves.
@TheUKNutter
@TheUKNutter 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you are very neutral with your opinions of specific people. It’s not like how most people are now, where everyone is stating a opinion on SOMETHING or clearly suggesting their audience to follow a certain political movement.
@Ese96Agoaye
@Ese96Agoaye 4 жыл бұрын
Having briefly mentioned Brian Clough, people say he was the best manager to never take on the England job. Would you agree?
@clauleon2810
@clauleon2810 4 жыл бұрын
Clough No doubt
@Taeerom
@Taeerom 4 жыл бұрын
There are many better managers all over the world and throughout history that was or is better. But among English managers, perhaps. You must also remember that being a national team manager is quite different from being a club manager, Revie is an example of that. From my own country Norway, Drillo is another. He took a thoroughly mediocre footballing nation into the very top of football, at one point being ranked as number 2 (in -92), and was amongst the top his entire tenure. He understood statistics and their importance in football better than anyone else at the time, and was one of the first to truly understand the power of zone defence and pressing (as well as tactical oddities like a wide target man,a playmaking fullback and number 8s that could run 120 minutes, but not play football). But he was not a people person, and never had anywhere close to the same success at a club. He knew tactics and numbers, and instructed already professional players to implement his tactics withotu any fuss, and he demolished teams with much better players than he had availble to him. And that's what you need from a national team manager, a tactical genious that can bring forth the very best of what is availble, not someone that is good at building a club and a culture and inspires loyalty and cohesiveness in the long run.
@Veaseify
@Veaseify 4 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't have been able to play John McGovern with England so he would have been lost...a facetious comment yes, but he was never one for 'star' players so its hard to know how he might have done with England.
@jasonsender6568
@jasonsender6568 4 жыл бұрын
By a mile yes
@Clem_Fandango11
@Clem_Fandango11 4 жыл бұрын
Clough would have been the ideal option. Greenwood was just a yes man....The reason Clough didn't get the job was because he was too opinionated the the FA were scared of him. There's no doubt Clough could get things out of players no other manager could......BUT.....he would only have been successful if Peter Taylor had gone with him.
@lethalsnake666
@lethalsnake666 2 жыл бұрын
Please do more of these longer style videos, Bill Nicholson as a recommendation
@nickm4627
@nickm4627 4 жыл бұрын
Sad to see Leeds like this, they belong in the premier. Hope they make it this season
@runrafarunthebestintheworld
@runrafarunthebestintheworld 4 жыл бұрын
They are falling so far..
@MrJudda1994
@MrJudda1994 4 жыл бұрын
Nick M no one belongs in the league. You earn it.
@oscarsilva2548
@oscarsilva2548 4 жыл бұрын
@Insert Name Here leeds arent even a big club chelsea and man city pre takeovers won more trophies than leeds have in their entire history
@mick6370
@mick6370 4 жыл бұрын
@@oscarsilva2548 Chelsea 1 title, Man City 2 titles, Leeds 3 titles before there big money takeovers Fact!
@brandonhey7797
@brandonhey7797 3 жыл бұрын
@@mick6370 Definitely
@craigmullen9046
@craigmullen9046 4 жыл бұрын
Don Played for City in the 1956 FA Cup final when City German goalkeeper is broke his neck carried on playing Don was upfront for us that we won 1-0 MCFC
@robertspencer2516
@robertspencer2516 Жыл бұрын
I worked with a ex professional footballer who had a long career. He played in a Cup final and quite a few seasons playing in the old first division. He was just the complete opposite of many of his team mates who were very flashy. He knew I was a big fan of the club he played for and we had opportunities to speak about his career. I’m not naming him as I haven’t seen him for a good few years. We are both pensioners now. We were talking about Leeds and there reputation. I told him about how I remembered seeing Bremner being held back by team mates in the tunnel after the team had gone out to look at the pitch, a fan had abused Bremner, Billy wanted to sort him out. That Leeds team were intimidating Andy pushed the boundaries of fair play but my god they were good. My colleague laughingly told me that the team were discussing with a ex Leeds player who was a regular in their most successful years about how after playing Leeds their legs always felt sore and had tender irritable scratches on them The Leeds player told them that in the old days when nail in studs were still common. They would remove he top of the studs exposing the tips of the nails. Then glue on cardboard they muddied to make it indistinguishable from the remaking studs. Then after their studs had been checked by officials prior to the game they would scrape off the cardboard off on the metal grills designed to clean mud off the boots as they trooped out to the pitch. I told that’s awful. No he said, bloody clever. He also said the biggest cheer he ever had was wining a 50/50 with Norman Hunter. He said he saw Hunter coming in high and just went higher. Hunter had to go off injured. I got a lot of praise for that he said. Different times. I collected autographs as a kid and that Leeds team were the ones to get but usually as they got stick leaving the ground to get on the coach, they didn’t hang around. However a friendly coach driver told me he was only taking them to the local railway station to try there. We ran to the station bought a platform ticket and found the whole team in the platform cafe. They were so accommodating signing everything chatting away really made our day couldn’t thank them enough. Always begrudgingly had a soft spot for Leeds after that. Had similar experiences thanks to that driver with the Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs teams. Though for reasons l didn’t then know, Jimmy Greaves waited in the pub across the road before running out to get the train with us behind still trying to get him to sign.😅
@johnnyfifa4159
@johnnyfifa4159 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, 18 minutes felt like it was only 3 minutes long. Very enjoyable
@TheHighwayDreams
@TheHighwayDreams 4 жыл бұрын
We all love Leeds.. mot
@Blue-ff2qv
@Blue-ff2qv 4 жыл бұрын
That's really well done. Wonderful narration from Devine.
@laidbackjack3166
@laidbackjack3166 4 жыл бұрын
Revie had success but was also an unpopular character. Rumours of him offering bungs throughout his managerial career, the style of play was borderline assault and then leaving the England managers job to manage in the lucrative UAE - meant his achievements are rarely spoken about.
@sudiptab57
@sudiptab57 4 жыл бұрын
Make a video on Brian Clough
@posner89
@posner89 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine how long that would have to be!
@Tifo
@Tifo 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Clough at Nottingham Forest: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIS0mqyod75oi80 & Derby County: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3Kkd3eti6afapY
@normanby100
@normanby100 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tifo How about one on Alf Ramsey at Ipswich? Very significant in terms of the evolution of english football.
@PK-yf3hd
@PK-yf3hd 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a fair-minded assessment of his and the teams mentality. I think he craved self justification .he was obsessive and passionate and never happy or settled with life and it's unpredictabilities .he didn't trust himself or anybody else I hope he's found peace and am thankful for the most exciting experiences of my life
@anthonymead4359
@anthonymead4359 2 жыл бұрын
Innovative, classy, straightforward, and brilliant - he took a side of no-hopers and built them into world beaters. If a manager did this today he'd need the backing of a wealthy oil magnate - or a financially sound business to achieve it. Revie was hated because he was so successful and light years ahead of the opposition. Who would finally catch him up in the late nineties, early 2,000s. If you win once you get a slight nod of approval - do it twice and there's a few raised eyebrows and some silence. Keep winning in a way that can only be likened to a 'Roman army Phalanx' conveyor belt - they'll bloody well hate you for it.
@dalek3086
@dalek3086 Жыл бұрын
Leeds were a great team - but thugs, cheats, and timewasters. Plenty of excellent Scottish players in his teams.
@Stephen-kf8um
@Stephen-kf8um 4 жыл бұрын
Barry Sprake? That error prone keeper who couldn't even get his own name right. Gary Spark, who replaced him, was more reliable.
@kevinprior3549
@kevinprior3549 2 жыл бұрын
Revie wasn't everyone's cup of tea but his success at Leeds was immense.
@karmabomb3768
@karmabomb3768 4 жыл бұрын
What about the European Cup semi-final in 1970 when Celtic blew them away in both legs? Thought that would get a mention.
@corin492
@corin492 4 жыл бұрын
If you look at that season, Leeds played five semi final matches in the space of a couple of weeks. They were simply exhausted
@jameshope398
@jameshope398 4 жыл бұрын
Karma Bomb wee Jimmy Johnstone tore Terry Cooper apart in the two legs in fact Billy Bremner said to Cooper if i were you i wouldn't bother going out for the 2nd half at Elland Road wee Jimmy was roasting Cooper
@johnsaunders2109
@johnsaunders2109 3 жыл бұрын
@@corin492 Yes. I'm no fan of Leeds , they were thugs and cheats, but that fixture pile up.was ridiculous! As for Celtic, I doubt if they'd beat Forest Green these days!!!
@flamarre
@flamarre 3 жыл бұрын
Revie Sounds like my kind of guy
@Telcontar1962
@Telcontar1962 4 жыл бұрын
Leeds when they decided to play football were as good as any side I’ve ever seen. The cynical side of their game hurt them far more than the opposition. Chelsea cup final was a testament to that.
@chrisbradley1192
@chrisbradley1192 4 жыл бұрын
You mean the final where Chopper Harris and David Webb kicked the Leeds players all over the field?
@Telcontar1962
@Telcontar1962 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Bradley Sort of. I was actually referring to the Wembley game. Leeds alternate between brilliant football and cynical violence. Giles shouldn’t have been sent off but arrested for GBH. It was stupid. If they stuck to football they would have won but they thought they could bully the soft southern posers from the Kings Road. Come Old Trafford the tables were turned and that cynicism got it just rewards. Best cup final ever in my view. Some great football, some great goals and a true battle in every sense of the word. Shane the Wembley game only has highlights these days.
@chrisbradley1192
@chrisbradley1192 4 жыл бұрын
@@Telcontar1962 Like it said in the video, the team was like a NATO alliance; an attack on one was an attack on all. And yes, they could be vicious when provoked. Every 1st div. team at that time had its "enforcers" and some of them were dirtier than any Leeds player.
@Telcontar1962
@Telcontar1962 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Bradley the video may have said that but it wasn’t quite true any more than Barry Sprake or Gary Spark played for them. Leeds didn’t always hit back, all to often they hit first. Given how good a side they were it was as self destructive a streak as Revie’s darker side. Although not a Leeds fan I remember that late 60’s early 70’s side and it is probably the greatest team never to lift the European Cup and that fault as much as bent European reffing was the reason for why they didn’t.
@chrisbradley1192
@chrisbradley1192 4 жыл бұрын
@@Telcontar1962 Under Revie they were a family. Sometimes there might have been the attitude of "Let's kick them before they start kicking us."
@briangriffin2905
@briangriffin2905 9 ай бұрын
Revie was & is a true legend .
@OMENA7499
@OMENA7499 3 ай бұрын
DON REVIE WAS AMAZING
@magnuslangas3360
@magnuslangas3360 4 жыл бұрын
been waiting for this😍
@dylanparker130
@dylanparker130 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video - absolutely fascinating hearing about Leeds' history.
@markfinch6794
@markfinch6794 4 жыл бұрын
An excellent video and I hope more to come
@Telcontar1962
@Telcontar1962 4 жыл бұрын
Did I hear Gary Sprake beng called both Barry Sprake and Gary Spark?
@garyr11
@garyr11 4 жыл бұрын
LEGENDARY MAN!!!!
@CoopMauKona
@CoopMauKona 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Leeds and Forest back in the Prem along with Wolves, Villa, etc. It's nice to see small clubs like Bournemouth staying in the Prem, but let's face it we miss big clubs like Leeds and Forest that have so much history.
@franjopego1
@franjopego1 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Mario Balotelli during a squad trip to a bingo hall, I'd pay good money to see that
@mboss4
@mboss4 3 жыл бұрын
Que grande es el Real Madrid 3:11. Por mucho que digan del Barça, el Madrid siempre es el ejemplo a seguir por todos y esto lo demuestra
@RoofRack2
@RoofRack2 2 жыл бұрын
Great little film.
@ronnierhino100
@ronnierhino100 4 жыл бұрын
Gary Spark 😂 it’s Gary Sprake mate.
@ronburgundy8423
@ronburgundy8423 4 жыл бұрын
he cost us several times
@ronnierhino100
@ronnierhino100 4 жыл бұрын
Ron burgundy he saved us many times as well, was a great shot stopper.
@CB-xr1eg
@CB-xr1eg 4 жыл бұрын
It's not, its either Squealer or Judas.
@Paperbagman555
@Paperbagman555 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful and detailed story, thank you! I had heard of Dirty Leeds but now I know more. I'd love to see more of these longer video narrative-like stories
@stephend7679
@stephend7679 11 ай бұрын
Revie was a great manager and should stand alongside the great managers of the game. What a midfield Eddie grey .Billy bremner Johnny Giles. Peter lorimer...
@B8kedBean
@B8kedBean 4 жыл бұрын
"Don Reavies name is rarely mentioned today" you clearly arent listening to OTB on a thursday 😁
@damiengilchrist4163
@damiengilchrist4163 4 жыл бұрын
John Giles phone in segment?
@philjamieson5572
@philjamieson5572 4 жыл бұрын
I am old enough and lucky enough to have watched Leeds United live, back in the early to late 1970s. I think their passing of the ball was excellent and I was entirely unaware of their style of play being any 'dirtier' than any other team of the era.
@Skin-ve2tt
@Skin-ve2tt 4 жыл бұрын
lol. You must be f****ing joking. Bremner was more like a wrestler than a footballer!
@philjamieson5572
@philjamieson5572 4 жыл бұрын
@@Skin-ve2tt Heh, heh. Yeah. He could certainly mix it alright.ind you, he was only playing them at their own game.
@beds139
@beds139 4 жыл бұрын
@@Skin-ve2tt A very skillful wresteler though😁
@Skin-ve2tt
@Skin-ve2tt 4 жыл бұрын
@@beds139 I'll give you that. R.I.P Norman Hunter, a Leeds legend.
@andreaswong8829
@andreaswong8829 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody hates us yet at the same time we're apparently not relevant anymore 🤔🤔
@brandonhey7797
@brandonhey7797 3 жыл бұрын
Not relevant, eh?
@dannygray-mi3xn
@dannygray-mi3xn Жыл бұрын
Bobby Collins was the heart and soul of Leeds United in the 60s. He was Bremner, before Bremner.
@jorgeher7359
@jorgeher7359 4 жыл бұрын
Agree.. An amazing story
@Neale-c4l
@Neale-c4l 3 ай бұрын
When I was a kid they were a fantastic side
@Alex58399
@Alex58399 Жыл бұрын
The drawing of Revie looks like Gene Hunt
@solomonbrown2476
@solomonbrown2476 9 ай бұрын
I feel like a big part of this video that was missed was the 1970 FA Cup Final - Chelsea, typically a glamorous team, showed Revie that he couldn't bully everyone off the pitch and (physically) destroyed Leeds over two games, forcing them to adapt their style to a new era. That was their defining moment, and it was a loss!
@user-gd1ow9kb1q
@user-gd1ow9kb1q 4 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget, Leeds were a very good team. Between 68 - 74 they were a match for Liverpool.
@andrewpitso5538
@andrewpitso5538 4 жыл бұрын
Joe and team is always going over beyond and above I salute this team .... joe just kills me coz I am always curious how he is going to start the next video
@GabberHeadzNL
@GabberHeadzNL 4 жыл бұрын
I like Leeds since Viduka, Lee Bowyer, Rio,Robbie etc days
@keyuantejohnson6266
@keyuantejohnson6266 4 жыл бұрын
Chelsea before abramovich had a better team than Leeds
@philh8288
@philh8288 4 жыл бұрын
I am here after yesterday's very sad that norman hunter died due to this horribl coronavirus RIP. I got to meet him as a 12 year old boy, when he became Johnny Giles' no2 at my beloved West Bromwich Albion.
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