Please do more of these longer style videos,enjoyed this.
@stephenreeds36724 жыл бұрын
Leeds were loathsome. Liverpool had v similar history but played with style. Revie was I think a rather mixed up person and reflected in his management. They weren't "hard" they were nasty. See Hunter backing away from Franny Lee who was half his size. Giles punching Keegan from behind. Why? Trying to get the ball. Sickening.
@CB-xr1eg4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenreeds3672 Hunter backed off from Lee who was swinging wildly and acting like a maniac, (the Roy Keane of his day) most sensible people would do that. But I can't see how backing off makes someone "nasty". Explain?
@MrBlazemaster5253 жыл бұрын
@@stephenreeds3672 Leeds never murdered fans now did they?
@DukeCanibus Жыл бұрын
word bro
@boum62 Жыл бұрын
Johnny lyle of whu ... Harry Bassett of Wimbledon?
@GenericUserNameHere4 жыл бұрын
Love or Hate Don Revie you can’t tell the story of English Football without him. If you try you’re doing a disservice. Class video
@jackmiller-johnston86894 жыл бұрын
Which is why I find it a bit of tragedy that he's isn't talked about as much as he should today. Assume certain rumours played a part in that
@normanby1004 жыл бұрын
Without Revie, Jack Charlton wouldn't have been in the world cup winning side but sulking and causing trouble in a mid-table 2nd division side.
@chelsblue73704 жыл бұрын
@@jackmiller-johnston8689 Rumours, my arsenal. When they come from multiple sources, they are not rumours, they're just hushed up facts, because the scandal would likely have caused repercussions even beyond LUFC.
@saab29064 жыл бұрын
Chelsblue73 what rumours?
@dysplasiagiraffe48453 жыл бұрын
@@chelsblue7370 bit like your owner being a jacked up swindler who capitalises on the misfortunes of his nation and our dear old planet at large, small club big money
@bapsmcginty47824 жыл бұрын
The man who brought me Leeds United while all around me shouted for Man U or Liverpool. Its been eventful to say the least. ALAW MOT
@WaterCarrier074 жыл бұрын
It’s bizarre how after all that success and rivalry with Clough, he’s faded into irrelevance from outside of being a leeds fan
@Liofa734 жыл бұрын
Jake Waterfall --- It's because he was known to try to pay off other teams, various managers spoke about it in the Match of the 70s series.
@MrRJT864 жыл бұрын
Unlike Clough, Revie was a cheat. Just like Leeds United.
@donnyannessa6544 жыл бұрын
Trial by public opinion.
@mikehunt78104 жыл бұрын
He's known in boro cos he is from teesside
@Makkajakka4 жыл бұрын
@G G If VAR favours Liverpool so much, then why did they not get clear penalties given against Newcastle and Southampton? Why wasn't Man Utd's goal pulled back for a foul on Origi in the build-up? And why was Firmino's onside goal against Aston Villa adjudged to be offside? The only reason morons like yourself think that VAR favours Liverpool, is that Liverpool have NEVER lost a game in which they have got a questionable VAR decision given against them, at the point of writing. You're just too bitter to give credit where credit's due to Liverpool's world class quality and mentality.
@BigBlack814 жыл бұрын
18 minutes?! Insane length, but suitable for such a character. Bravo, TiFo.
@zargonthemagnificent3304 жыл бұрын
Wow. 18 whole minutes. That's, like, an entire lifetime dude. Average attention span of the standard KZbin user is about 18 seconds at most, so this is like reading War and Peace for them. They'll be dead before it finishes.
@notjani64154 жыл бұрын
BigBlack81 nice profile picture
@Kelly14UK4 жыл бұрын
Second time i've watched it.
@BigBlack814 жыл бұрын
@@Kelly14UK Just watched it through again myself.
@Kelly14UK4 жыл бұрын
@@BigBlack81 Sidebar shows he's done a wee bit on Clough as well. I'll watch it sooner or later this week, been watching The Damned Utd clips for the past hour : )
@ricardopinheiro40594 жыл бұрын
One romantic story. I'm plunging through the English football history and never came across this one. This video really absorbs you! Great work.
@troygrindley37934 жыл бұрын
He was very ahead of his game in the English leagues in terms of scouting and tactics, yet for a scientific man was so superstitious
@SantomPh4 жыл бұрын
his techniques and mentality were noted and espoused by Martin O'Neill , one of the three managers exempted from the UEFA Super Licence (Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger are the other 2). Revie's scouting and training regime are , somewhat indirectly part of the USL now
@RamsFan934 жыл бұрын
pull the other one. Don Revie was a crook.
@maxpowerii73684 жыл бұрын
Chish and Fips funny despite taking £7.5k from the Daily Mirror Gary Sprake was never willing to repeat the allegations under oath at court. London media just never liked a northern industrial city succeeding.
@CB-xr1eg4 жыл бұрын
@@RamsFan93 How easy it is to come on a comment section throwing acusations around with no proof. Where you even born when Revie managed Leeds? Show some evidence of what you're saying or just stfu.
@jimtuite34513 жыл бұрын
@@SantomPh nonsense. This methids were based in cheating and manipulation...utter rubbish to say they form any textbooks guidelines today
@beds1394 жыл бұрын
It is largely forgotten now that Revie was an innovative top class player in his day and played 6 times for England. He was credited with being the first deep lying centre forward in English football in the 1950s. However,even during his playing days he was a prickly character and moved clubs regularly. He took his somewhat obsessive character into management which proved to be his greatest strength but also a significant weakness. He worked wonders to rejuvenate Leeds in the early 1960s and turn them into a force to be reckoned with by the end of the decade. But he made many enemies along the way because of the "combative" style his team employed.All the top clubs in this era,with the possible exception of Clough's Derby, had their cloggers but at times Leeds did take things too far. Revie was totally unapologetic about this which infuriated the big wigs at the Football League even more. His team won a lot but should have won even more. There were some unjust losses,especially the 1973 European Cup Winners Cup Final, and other occasions where the team just did not show up in vital games.The 1973 Cup Final loss to Sunderland is the most obvious example. Revie's legacy is ultimately clouded over the allegations against him of trying to bribe opposition players to throw games. Yes he was never charged or convicted of anything, but at the height of the allegations in the late 1970s he was a rich man and could have chosen to sue the national newspapers who made the allegations.... but he chose not to.
@top10mediocrity4 жыл бұрын
Man, Gary Sprake gets a hard time here. First called 'Barry Sprake' and then 'Gary Spark'
@Telcontar19624 жыл бұрын
Alec James thanks for confirming, I thought my ears were playing tricks on me.
@posner894 жыл бұрын
Let this great video down massively.
@mrkipling22014 жыл бұрын
Alec James I’m glad you confirmed that for me I thought I was hearing things!!
@DannyB_74 жыл бұрын
Thinking the same thing. Biggest own goal since Barry Spark threw the ball into his own net.
@portcullis56224 жыл бұрын
It just undermines the whole film. I thought it was quite balanced otherwise.
@ECH0ChAOs4 жыл бұрын
BTW, "The damned United" is an excellent movie. Covers this and highly recommend it.
@Reubonics4 жыл бұрын
I concur.
@shaneclapham16764 жыл бұрын
Good movie but a lot of it is falsified for dramatic effect. They hardly delve into revies character.
@shanewright27724 жыл бұрын
The Damned United is a fiction. Clough, magnificent bastard that he was, deserved the truth of his story to be told.
@richardking32064 жыл бұрын
The film is a take on Clough, not Leeds. The book is, too, really, but it’s style carries a lot of it forward, relying on what it shows went on in Clough’s head, which the author couldn’t possibly have known. Neither are an attempt to portray the reality of what occurred. No attempt is made to show anything from a Leeds perspective in either fiction.
@leftenantthunder4 жыл бұрын
@@shaneclapham1676 yea its more of Clough's story rather than Revies. What a performance from Michael Sheen though
@immoralreplicant1332 Жыл бұрын
In some ways though, he left one of the most lasting legacies in English football. When they were relegated to the third tier for the first time some years back, it was widely reported that their result on the final day that sent them down was cheered as it came over the tannoy at every ground in the country. From Southampton to Carlisle , Shrewsbury to Norwich , everyone celebrated Leeds' relegation. The majority of those people weren't even alive during the Revie era. That's how enduring the legend of Dirty Leeds is.
@corin4924 жыл бұрын
The story of the rise and fall of Revie's Leeds is worthy of a hollywood movie, full of adversity, triumph and ultimately tragedy. Whatever the rights of wrongs, it is one of the great stories of English football. RIP Mr Revie, a genuine great
@paulodingle21424 жыл бұрын
One of the great teams in English football history.
@keyuantejohnson62664 жыл бұрын
Chelsea a bigger club than leeds
@CB-xr1eg4 жыл бұрын
@@keyuantejohnson6266 Fuck me you're everywhere you sad boring repetive dick head.
@clivebaxter6354 Жыл бұрын
In your dreams
@paulodingle2142 Жыл бұрын
@@clivebaxter6354 not my dreams mate I do t support them
@CountFisco Жыл бұрын
Love this video length. Obviously takes longer to produce but 15-20 minutes means you can get truly invested and understanding of the topics mentioned. Bravo
@dcw1274 жыл бұрын
Strangely Revie and Clough were more alike than we probably think. They were both managers who believed in recruitment at a time where loyalty to your team was everything. They used different training methods and techniques. But, most of all, they highlighted the need for European success. Before the 60's British teams didn't do European football, it was a luxury few could afford or want. Revie and Clough were 15 years ahead of their time. I think Liverpool in the 80's under Shankly finally saw that comparison between the two men.
@charleswilkinson44584 жыл бұрын
Him and cloughie were in a class of their own. Although I preferred clough's football you cant doubt how good and genius revie was
@dilipkhednah4 жыл бұрын
A short, and very interesting video and to the point as well. He changed Leeds from nobodys to a team to fear. He won a lot of trophies with Leeds, but it could have been more if it wasn't for so many games being played in other tournaments. When he left Leeds for the England job, it didn't go the way it was expected to. I think he should of come back to ER at some point when Leeds were going through a bad patch. He is Leeds,and will be Leeds.
@cjmq19704 жыл бұрын
He didn’t win as many silverware as he projected, he and Leeds were one of the greatest first-runners in the English football. However, I enjoy watching the FA Cup final when defeated Arsenal, it was well-played footbal, as much dynamic as nowadays matches.
@solomonbrown24769 ай бұрын
1970 was better😉
@alankirkby4654 жыл бұрын
I'm Man city fan, older enough to remember when he played for Man City saw him playing for City Reserves when at one time when he couldn't get in City first team.
@keyuantejohnson62664 жыл бұрын
Don revie a legend at man city
@coachhbosoccer4 жыл бұрын
I am Liverpool all the way but i was close to being Leeds when Eric Cantona was there. That TV debate with Clough is infamous
@michealflaithbheartaigh41394 жыл бұрын
Just proving the plastic nature of the fan base that follows the Sky 6
@coachhbosoccer4 жыл бұрын
@@michealflaithbheartaigh4139 actually, it was a coverage issue. I am British but I lived in Madagascar at the time and they just didn't show Leeds enough, no premier league packages then I read more about them more than i actually watched. So no, I'm not a band wagoner
@kevinbeck67854 жыл бұрын
As a liverpool fan and being brought up in the greatest football era ever, and i would not call leeds dirty it was the era when football was hard with hard players, not the rolling round and screaming we have today. playing on bowling green pitches, and with a nice light ball to kick.
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears4 жыл бұрын
They were basically informed by the shocking methods of Italy and Spain etc. That's unfortunately why Dundee, Liverpool (Shankly v Inter) and Derby suffered in 60s and 70s outings because they all basically played by the rules - and Forest got a lucky break quite frankly when UEFA finally woke up to the likes of Juvē and other S. European teams. I think the rancour comes from the fact the League and FA turned a blind eye to their behaviour because they were seen as England's best bet in Europe early on.
@wildbill68264 жыл бұрын
The ball. Hate it & it changed football. It has all the dynamics of a indoor smaller ball. It has made the game quicker & thus tackles are much less. Till the end of the millennium and from about 1966 it was unchanged, yes the pre war & fifties the ball was a lumpen thing & as said it was changed & perfect for all these decades. Mighty Whites keep fighting.
@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin4 жыл бұрын
@@wildbill6826 Yep, the ball was a crucial change. Once it became impermeable, and therefore much lighter in practice, it made the game play more and more like a court sport. Add the stealth synthetic surfaces, slippers for boots and protection of the ball carrier, and the competitive game now looks like astropark training. Or a weird, trivial basketball/handball with a touch of ice hockey style game.
@rayratchford83382 жыл бұрын
Dirtyest team evet
@ronoccc Жыл бұрын
As the famous George Best quote goes ‘every team had a hard man, leeds had 11 of them’
@pault84704 жыл бұрын
I,m a die hard liverpool fan but the Leeds team of the 70s was fantastic
@dinerouk4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Keegan said it was sad that Revie had not been accorded the respect he deserved and according to Alan ball, M Allison and several other players/coaches, they were the best team Britain has ever produced, one said that they were the first professional club, ie, everything was planned and practised to achieve the maximum efficiency. Yes, they were hard and would 'try it on' when the ref was not looking, but other teams were hard and on the fringe of what Leeds did. Shankly, a great rival, never criticised them for being dirty and said their games against each other were the great games of football. Both of the managers and teams had the greatest respect for one another.
@ElectricSoulShow4 жыл бұрын
@@dinerouk Well said Peter
@MrGoalissimo4 жыл бұрын
reevie accomplishments speak for themselves what he achieved was truly exceptional.
@johnwise66334 жыл бұрын
Don Revie was a grate manager and very under appreciated, I did not realise how far he took Leeds from were he first found them. Your videos are excellent bye the way Tifo
@beds1394 жыл бұрын
He's not under appreciated. He is largely ignored by the media because of the bribery allegations he never addressed.
@dalek3086Ай бұрын
great manager
@victorvelasquez14824 жыл бұрын
this TIFO video about to feel like a movie
@ignitefifahd80173 жыл бұрын
Don Revie, the greatest manager in Leeds history, and, in my opinion, one of the greatest in, at the very least, English football history.
@clivebaxter6354 Жыл бұрын
He led a team of thugs and cheats
@Lions43224 жыл бұрын
Revie vs. Clough may resemble the Bilardo vs. Menotti in certain aspects. Cynicism and grit vs. Romanticism
@craigseddon48844 жыл бұрын
Don Revie: you get nowt for being second vs Brian Clough: I do believe in fairies
@petehall19852 жыл бұрын
And we know who the better and more universally manager was. I don't remember there being a minute of silence throughout the football pyramid after revie died....
@briansmith83134 жыл бұрын
A superb team that never got the recognition they deserved
@steveluckhurst23503 жыл бұрын
debatable.
@Hollows19974 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough Clough also played up front for Sunderland nearly scoring a goal a game before being forced into management through injury. Then lads boss Alan Brown was said to be the inspiration for Clough’s management style.
@glifosfato4 жыл бұрын
I didn't know his story and ngl I teared up a bit at the end. great video as always, Tifo
@tone38174 жыл бұрын
Leeds Fans know what a great manager the Don was, we don't give a fk what anyone else thinks MOT !!
@johnclark36974 жыл бұрын
Nah grade a tosspot.. & bent as a butchers hook
@Jacob.4 жыл бұрын
M. O. T. LUFC
@Isleofskye4 жыл бұрын
The dirty play and cheating and harassment by Jack Charlton , Norman ( RIP ) Cooper , Giles , Bremner and Clarkey , in particular , was under Revie. Just seen " The Damned United" and what those thugs DELIBERATELY did to Derby just b4 Derby's European Cup Semi-Final in Juventus when they DELIBERATELY put half the team out injured was disgusting...
@arjunlayall85034 жыл бұрын
@@Isleofskye the damned united is very exagerated
@Isleofskye4 жыл бұрын
Very True. What I thought was ridiculous was the height of the Actor playing Johnny Giles..lol
@maviscoils96724 жыл бұрын
The most exciting time at Leeds.... how the southern bums loved to hate us and still do they couldn’t stand how successful we had become.... they all were envious of our success and would not give Leeds any credit what so ever. The mighty Leeds made me a proud Leeds United Supporter and Don Revie and his team will never be forgotten it’s in the History Books 😁 they can’t take that away from us.
@siamesevodka2 жыл бұрын
“how the southern bums loved to hate us” Pipe down son, there’s 2 Lancashire clubs that’ve won 39 top flight league titles between them, let alone the other clubs, how many do you and the rest of Yorkshire have?
@Guyfaulkes16052 жыл бұрын
@@siamesevodka best manager who leeds Eva had was clough and he was there for 44 days lol 😆 🤣 😂
@stephenreeds36322 жыл бұрын
It wasn't only Southerners who loathed you. The whole country did. And for all the hype, you weren't that successful.
@petersyme70832 жыл бұрын
Not good enough to beat Celtic in the 1971 European Cup final, Celtic won both matches.
@sayakmitra75024 жыл бұрын
Watching this after watching The Damned United a few weeks back. Great work Tifo !
@hotbeefo4 жыл бұрын
Superb, never knew half of this and wanted a decent roundup.
@laurencefarrell27753 жыл бұрын
Only one Don Revie, one Don REVIE ,THERES ONLY ONE DON REVIE THANKS BOSS R.I.P
@gingerburns91254 жыл бұрын
I have no doubt that if Don Revie wasn't superstitious, he would have been the greatest manager that England had ever produced
@infrasleep2 жыл бұрын
I think he needed a Peter Taylor working with him ;someone who would have tempered his superstitions and ultra defensive mode (often applied for no reason or gain) and found a few more players that would have seen them win a lot more-the 1969-70 season of ultimate failure was probably down to just 15 or 16 players being used for an entire league and Cups campaign; they were shagged out!
@fernandosalazar22984 жыл бұрын
BRAVO!!! When TIFO is good there is nothing like it...
@colinhughes9162 жыл бұрын
Dirty Leeds - As Chelsea Supporter The 1970s Cup Final was a Brutal Game - Red Cards for both teams
@kieronbyrnes19324 жыл бұрын
Leeds should’ve won more with the side they had
@roydilcock84114 жыл бұрын
Leeds won on the pitch but they were outplayed by the FA and sundry referees. Roy D
@briandavis4004 жыл бұрын
Big Jack said it best in one season " We were runners up in the FA CUP lost the league on goal difference to Liverpool knocked out in the semi finals of the fair's cup some players would give their whole career's for a season like that the town was buzzing and we won nothing that year but we were involved in every major trophy right to the last " so true I was a lad then and going down to Elland road to see the Revie aces was magical thanks Don
@stealthiscool4 жыл бұрын
They were robbed of two European trophies tbf
@beds1394 жыл бұрын
@@stealthiscool Agree with that.The 73 Cup Winners final was decided by a bent ref & the 75 final saw a blatant penalty denied (even Beckenbaur admits this) & an incomprehensible decision to disallow Lorimer's goal.
@caomhan844 жыл бұрын
Probably should've had 2 more championships and completely robbed of a European Cup and Cup Winners' Cup.
@johnrinman53414 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic script and video, once again. Thank you Tifo!
@musabelias12404 жыл бұрын
The last time I was this early there was no affiliation by athletic
@Samwerly4 жыл бұрын
Musab Ali very original.....
@timmcelroy21884 жыл бұрын
@@Samwerly Originally on The Atheltic
@jasonsender65684 жыл бұрын
God I hate the athletic videos
@ivandojaquez40764 жыл бұрын
This man has never made a bad video all are top notch quality
@gregmilner1004 жыл бұрын
Brillianty made!
@1000heros2 жыл бұрын
His achievements, admiration and trophies speak for themselves
@discharge29 Жыл бұрын
''you can take all your medals , trophies , pots and pans and throw them in the nearest bin coz you haven't won any of them fairly'' clough knew the score!!
@jonathanstevenson6753 Жыл бұрын
These videos are some of the best not only on football - but on the platform. well done
@blimeyjoe2534 жыл бұрын
His problem was being overshadowed by Clough. Not just that they were around at the same time, but their personal rivalry and how openly Clough criticised him has made Revie seem less like a manager in his own right that a side character in the story of Brian Clough. And I think Clough was a better manager, even if he buggered up his stint at leeds, crucially he had more charisma though, that's why he overshadowed Revie so much
@danielgraham59074 жыл бұрын
Clough’s success was after his rivalry with Revie unless you go by the fiction within the movie dammed United. Which is obviously where you have based your opinion from. Revie was successful 60s and 70s. Clough was at derby during that period and were nowhere near of the level of leeds. Clough was far more successful at Nottingham Forest and was there from 75 onwards and ending up relegating them in 93.
@ianshaw23214 жыл бұрын
@@danielgraham5907 dcfc football league champions 1971/72
@danielgraham59074 жыл бұрын
Ian Shaw yes not forgetting that but just making the point that their consistent successes in their careers were at different times so there was no overshadowing.
@blimeyjoe2534 жыл бұрын
@@danielgraham5907 my opinion wasn't based on the damned united on account of the fact I haven't seen it. You're correct, although there is an overlap, their success was at different times. Revie may not have been overshadowed at the time, but now looking back: history kind of forgets Revie unless you're a Leeds fan. I'm just suggesting the reason for that is Clough. Rather than a manager in his own right, he kind of ended up remembered as a footnote to Clough
@kadasrichard4 жыл бұрын
Peter Taylor was a big factor in Clough's achievements.
@chinmaybapat67744 жыл бұрын
This video is absolutely brilliant..!! A true gem of storytelling! Wow!
@weegoalie1464 жыл бұрын
Could you please do the fall of Queen's Park from the world's best to mid table in Scotland's fourth tier
@clivecarter46184 жыл бұрын
Queen Sparke, Gary's mam
@MrBlazemaster5253 жыл бұрын
It's easy - they stuck to their amateur roots as the world around them changed into a professional enterprise
@Isleofskye4 жыл бұрын
How did one Region like The North East provide so many great Managers back then like Cloughie, The Great Sir Bobby Robson and Bob Paisley = FANTASTIC and don't forget Harry Catterick at Everton and Harry Potts winning the Title for Burnley.....!!!
@chriswade98714 жыл бұрын
He was a man of his time, all of them were fixing matches and tapping up players. Difference is, Revvie was caught. Even the great Brian Clough was involved in this world! Always loved the style of Leeds, brutal no nonsense football, and a family atmosphere off the pitch. Wish football was still played by men, not the Fannie's of today. Sunderland fan
@tub194 жыл бұрын
I'm 54 and tackles was hard, but they didn't roll round on pitch like they do today. Today they to busy looking good in appearance then delivering on the pitch.
@abbba20074 жыл бұрын
Just appreciating how lengthy this animation is. Superb job!
@darthscouser52554 жыл бұрын
Very well researched.......enjoyed it.....do one on howard kendalls great 80s side
@Tifo4 жыл бұрын
Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5m8g6WAhL5rfaM
@chrisbouttell84474 жыл бұрын
Cracking video and very interesting to learn more about Leeds United. As a Doncaster fan I think, a video about the "Raising From the Ashes" story of Doncaster Rovers. With our former Chairman Ken Richardson trying to burn the ground down and then John Ryan buying the club and getting us to the championship. Very interesting story I think
@normanby1004 жыл бұрын
I recall watching Doncaster at Peterborough in the season they got relegated to the Conference and wondering what looked so oddand old-fashioned about their shirts. Then I realised - no sponsors logo. They were that hard-up. They had lost 8-0 at Orient a week or so previous and i went along anticipating a deluge. Rovers ended up winning 1-0. Belle Vue looked pretty decrepit when I watched Scarborough play there the following season.
@banjopiggottwright180211 ай бұрын
What a fantastic story, that would certainly suffice as movie material. Well Done Tifo.
@jamescusack65114 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the media have been slogging Leeds ever since they were created as a football club
@Liofa734 жыл бұрын
James Cusack --- That's just was Leeds fans like to think, that they are hard done by...
@MrRJT864 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve learned and seen, Leeds have fully earned their negative reputation. The media don’t need to do anything, the fans and the club does it all perfectly fine by itself.
@roryforham4 жыл бұрын
they were a good team but my god were they dirty bastards on the pitch im all for good old fashioned physical english footbal but what they did was closer to GBH than football
@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam79864 жыл бұрын
They hate us because they ain’t us
@shanewright27724 жыл бұрын
I'm going to assume, sir, that you actually saw Leeds play and have some examples in mind that back up your case. But then, what about the Liverpool team, who were always built on a spine of thugs, or Chelsea who had anyone of half a dozen leg breakers at their disposal. Arsenal and Newcastle, too. Birmingham, Stoke, WBA - all bruisers. Even cultured Burnley would give you a shoeing. And good help you if you came across one of the "little" clubs who wandered up into Div 1 back then - Luton, Carlisle et al. They were all dirty bastards back then. Or, more likely, today we have grown up watching soft bastards fatuously prancing about the pitch for mega-dollars and we've become soft bastards ourselves.
@TheUKNutter3 жыл бұрын
I love how you are very neutral with your opinions of specific people. It’s not like how most people are now, where everyone is stating a opinion on SOMETHING or clearly suggesting their audience to follow a certain political movement.
@Ese96Agoaye4 жыл бұрын
Having briefly mentioned Brian Clough, people say he was the best manager to never take on the England job. Would you agree?
@clauleon28104 жыл бұрын
Clough No doubt
@Taeerom4 жыл бұрын
There are many better managers all over the world and throughout history that was or is better. But among English managers, perhaps. You must also remember that being a national team manager is quite different from being a club manager, Revie is an example of that. From my own country Norway, Drillo is another. He took a thoroughly mediocre footballing nation into the very top of football, at one point being ranked as number 2 (in -92), and was amongst the top his entire tenure. He understood statistics and their importance in football better than anyone else at the time, and was one of the first to truly understand the power of zone defence and pressing (as well as tactical oddities like a wide target man,a playmaking fullback and number 8s that could run 120 minutes, but not play football). But he was not a people person, and never had anywhere close to the same success at a club. He knew tactics and numbers, and instructed already professional players to implement his tactics withotu any fuss, and he demolished teams with much better players than he had availble to him. And that's what you need from a national team manager, a tactical genious that can bring forth the very best of what is availble, not someone that is good at building a club and a culture and inspires loyalty and cohesiveness in the long run.
@Veaseify4 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't have been able to play John McGovern with England so he would have been lost...a facetious comment yes, but he was never one for 'star' players so its hard to know how he might have done with England.
@jasonsender65684 жыл бұрын
By a mile yes
@Clem_Fandango114 жыл бұрын
Clough would have been the ideal option. Greenwood was just a yes man....The reason Clough didn't get the job was because he was too opinionated the the FA were scared of him. There's no doubt Clough could get things out of players no other manager could......BUT.....he would only have been successful if Peter Taylor had gone with him.
@lethalsnake6662 жыл бұрын
Please do more of these longer style videos, Bill Nicholson as a recommendation
@nickm46274 жыл бұрын
Sad to see Leeds like this, they belong in the premier. Hope they make it this season
@runrafarunthebestintheworld4 жыл бұрын
They are falling so far..
@MrJudda19944 жыл бұрын
Nick M no one belongs in the league. You earn it.
@oscarsilva25484 жыл бұрын
@Insert Name Here leeds arent even a big club chelsea and man city pre takeovers won more trophies than leeds have in their entire history
@mick63704 жыл бұрын
@@oscarsilva2548 Chelsea 1 title, Man City 2 titles, Leeds 3 titles before there big money takeovers Fact!
@brandonhey77973 жыл бұрын
@@mick6370 Definitely
@craigmullen90464 жыл бұрын
Don Played for City in the 1956 FA Cup final when City German goalkeeper is broke his neck carried on playing Don was upfront for us that we won 1-0 MCFC
@robertspencer2516 Жыл бұрын
I worked with a ex professional footballer who had a long career. He played in a Cup final and quite a few seasons playing in the old first division. He was just the complete opposite of many of his team mates who were very flashy. He knew I was a big fan of the club he played for and we had opportunities to speak about his career. I’m not naming him as I haven’t seen him for a good few years. We are both pensioners now. We were talking about Leeds and there reputation. I told him about how I remembered seeing Bremner being held back by team mates in the tunnel after the team had gone out to look at the pitch, a fan had abused Bremner, Billy wanted to sort him out. That Leeds team were intimidating Andy pushed the boundaries of fair play but my god they were good. My colleague laughingly told me that the team were discussing with a ex Leeds player who was a regular in their most successful years about how after playing Leeds their legs always felt sore and had tender irritable scratches on them The Leeds player told them that in the old days when nail in studs were still common. They would remove he top of the studs exposing the tips of the nails. Then glue on cardboard they muddied to make it indistinguishable from the remaking studs. Then after their studs had been checked by officials prior to the game they would scrape off the cardboard off on the metal grills designed to clean mud off the boots as they trooped out to the pitch. I told that’s awful. No he said, bloody clever. He also said the biggest cheer he ever had was wining a 50/50 with Norman Hunter. He said he saw Hunter coming in high and just went higher. Hunter had to go off injured. I got a lot of praise for that he said. Different times. I collected autographs as a kid and that Leeds team were the ones to get but usually as they got stick leaving the ground to get on the coach, they didn’t hang around. However a friendly coach driver told me he was only taking them to the local railway station to try there. We ran to the station bought a platform ticket and found the whole team in the platform cafe. They were so accommodating signing everything chatting away really made our day couldn’t thank them enough. Always begrudgingly had a soft spot for Leeds after that. Had similar experiences thanks to that driver with the Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs teams. Though for reasons l didn’t then know, Jimmy Greaves waited in the pub across the road before running out to get the train with us behind still trying to get him to sign.😅
@johnnyfifa41594 жыл бұрын
Great video, 18 minutes felt like it was only 3 minutes long. Very enjoyable
@TheHighwayDreams4 жыл бұрын
We all love Leeds.. mot
@Blue-ff2qv4 жыл бұрын
That's really well done. Wonderful narration from Devine.
@laidbackjack31664 жыл бұрын
Revie had success but was also an unpopular character. Rumours of him offering bungs throughout his managerial career, the style of play was borderline assault and then leaving the England managers job to manage in the lucrative UAE - meant his achievements are rarely spoken about.
@sudiptab574 жыл бұрын
Make a video on Brian Clough
@posner894 жыл бұрын
Imagine how long that would have to be!
@Tifo4 жыл бұрын
Brian Clough at Nottingham Forest: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIS0mqyod75oi80 & Derby County: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3Kkd3eti6afapY
@normanby1004 жыл бұрын
@@Tifo How about one on Alf Ramsey at Ipswich? Very significant in terms of the evolution of english football.
@PK-yf3hd2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a fair-minded assessment of his and the teams mentality. I think he craved self justification .he was obsessive and passionate and never happy or settled with life and it's unpredictabilities .he didn't trust himself or anybody else I hope he's found peace and am thankful for the most exciting experiences of my life
@anthonymead43592 жыл бұрын
Innovative, classy, straightforward, and brilliant - he took a side of no-hopers and built them into world beaters. If a manager did this today he'd need the backing of a wealthy oil magnate - or a financially sound business to achieve it. Revie was hated because he was so successful and light years ahead of the opposition. Who would finally catch him up in the late nineties, early 2,000s. If you win once you get a slight nod of approval - do it twice and there's a few raised eyebrows and some silence. Keep winning in a way that can only be likened to a 'Roman army Phalanx' conveyor belt - they'll bloody well hate you for it.
@dalek3086 Жыл бұрын
Leeds were a great team - but thugs, cheats, and timewasters. Plenty of excellent Scottish players in his teams.
@Stephen-kf8um4 жыл бұрын
Barry Sprake? That error prone keeper who couldn't even get his own name right. Gary Spark, who replaced him, was more reliable.
@kevinprior35492 жыл бұрын
Revie wasn't everyone's cup of tea but his success at Leeds was immense.
@karmabomb37684 жыл бұрын
What about the European Cup semi-final in 1970 when Celtic blew them away in both legs? Thought that would get a mention.
@corin4924 жыл бұрын
If you look at that season, Leeds played five semi final matches in the space of a couple of weeks. They were simply exhausted
@jameshope3984 жыл бұрын
Karma Bomb wee Jimmy Johnstone tore Terry Cooper apart in the two legs in fact Billy Bremner said to Cooper if i were you i wouldn't bother going out for the 2nd half at Elland Road wee Jimmy was roasting Cooper
@johnsaunders21093 жыл бұрын
@@corin492 Yes. I'm no fan of Leeds , they were thugs and cheats, but that fixture pile up.was ridiculous! As for Celtic, I doubt if they'd beat Forest Green these days!!!
@flamarre3 жыл бұрын
Revie Sounds like my kind of guy
@Telcontar19624 жыл бұрын
Leeds when they decided to play football were as good as any side I’ve ever seen. The cynical side of their game hurt them far more than the opposition. Chelsea cup final was a testament to that.
@chrisbradley11924 жыл бұрын
You mean the final where Chopper Harris and David Webb kicked the Leeds players all over the field?
@Telcontar19624 жыл бұрын
Chris Bradley Sort of. I was actually referring to the Wembley game. Leeds alternate between brilliant football and cynical violence. Giles shouldn’t have been sent off but arrested for GBH. It was stupid. If they stuck to football they would have won but they thought they could bully the soft southern posers from the Kings Road. Come Old Trafford the tables were turned and that cynicism got it just rewards. Best cup final ever in my view. Some great football, some great goals and a true battle in every sense of the word. Shane the Wembley game only has highlights these days.
@chrisbradley11924 жыл бұрын
@@Telcontar1962 Like it said in the video, the team was like a NATO alliance; an attack on one was an attack on all. And yes, they could be vicious when provoked. Every 1st div. team at that time had its "enforcers" and some of them were dirtier than any Leeds player.
@Telcontar19624 жыл бұрын
Chris Bradley the video may have said that but it wasn’t quite true any more than Barry Sprake or Gary Spark played for them. Leeds didn’t always hit back, all to often they hit first. Given how good a side they were it was as self destructive a streak as Revie’s darker side. Although not a Leeds fan I remember that late 60’s early 70’s side and it is probably the greatest team never to lift the European Cup and that fault as much as bent European reffing was the reason for why they didn’t.
@chrisbradley11924 жыл бұрын
@@Telcontar1962 Under Revie they were a family. Sometimes there might have been the attitude of "Let's kick them before they start kicking us."
@briangriffin29059 ай бұрын
Revie was & is a true legend .
@OMENA74993 ай бұрын
DON REVIE WAS AMAZING
@magnuslangas33604 жыл бұрын
been waiting for this😍
@dylanparker1302 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video - absolutely fascinating hearing about Leeds' history.
@markfinch67944 жыл бұрын
An excellent video and I hope more to come
@Telcontar19624 жыл бұрын
Did I hear Gary Sprake beng called both Barry Sprake and Gary Spark?
@garyr114 жыл бұрын
LEGENDARY MAN!!!!
@CoopMauKona4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Leeds and Forest back in the Prem along with Wolves, Villa, etc. It's nice to see small clubs like Bournemouth staying in the Prem, but let's face it we miss big clubs like Leeds and Forest that have so much history.
@franjopego12 жыл бұрын
Imagine Mario Balotelli during a squad trip to a bingo hall, I'd pay good money to see that
@mboss43 жыл бұрын
Que grande es el Real Madrid 3:11. Por mucho que digan del Barça, el Madrid siempre es el ejemplo a seguir por todos y esto lo demuestra
@RoofRack22 жыл бұрын
Great little film.
@ronnierhino1004 жыл бұрын
Gary Spark 😂 it’s Gary Sprake mate.
@ronburgundy84234 жыл бұрын
he cost us several times
@ronnierhino1004 жыл бұрын
Ron burgundy he saved us many times as well, was a great shot stopper.
@CB-xr1eg4 жыл бұрын
It's not, its either Squealer or Judas.
@Paperbagman5554 жыл бұрын
Wonderful and detailed story, thank you! I had heard of Dirty Leeds but now I know more. I'd love to see more of these longer video narrative-like stories
@stephend767911 ай бұрын
Revie was a great manager and should stand alongside the great managers of the game. What a midfield Eddie grey .Billy bremner Johnny Giles. Peter lorimer...
@B8kedBean4 жыл бұрын
"Don Reavies name is rarely mentioned today" you clearly arent listening to OTB on a thursday 😁
@damiengilchrist41634 жыл бұрын
John Giles phone in segment?
@philjamieson55724 жыл бұрын
I am old enough and lucky enough to have watched Leeds United live, back in the early to late 1970s. I think their passing of the ball was excellent and I was entirely unaware of their style of play being any 'dirtier' than any other team of the era.
@Skin-ve2tt4 жыл бұрын
lol. You must be f****ing joking. Bremner was more like a wrestler than a footballer!
@philjamieson55724 жыл бұрын
@@Skin-ve2tt Heh, heh. Yeah. He could certainly mix it alright.ind you, he was only playing them at their own game.
@beds1394 жыл бұрын
@@Skin-ve2tt A very skillful wresteler though😁
@Skin-ve2tt4 жыл бұрын
@@beds139 I'll give you that. R.I.P Norman Hunter, a Leeds legend.
@andreaswong88294 жыл бұрын
Everybody hates us yet at the same time we're apparently not relevant anymore 🤔🤔
@brandonhey77973 жыл бұрын
Not relevant, eh?
@dannygray-mi3xn Жыл бұрын
Bobby Collins was the heart and soul of Leeds United in the 60s. He was Bremner, before Bremner.
@jorgeher73594 жыл бұрын
Agree.. An amazing story
@Neale-c4l3 ай бұрын
When I was a kid they were a fantastic side
@Alex58399 Жыл бұрын
The drawing of Revie looks like Gene Hunt
@solomonbrown24769 ай бұрын
I feel like a big part of this video that was missed was the 1970 FA Cup Final - Chelsea, typically a glamorous team, showed Revie that he couldn't bully everyone off the pitch and (physically) destroyed Leeds over two games, forcing them to adapt their style to a new era. That was their defining moment, and it was a loss!
@user-gd1ow9kb1q4 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget, Leeds were a very good team. Between 68 - 74 they were a match for Liverpool.
@andrewpitso55384 жыл бұрын
Joe and team is always going over beyond and above I salute this team .... joe just kills me coz I am always curious how he is going to start the next video
@GabberHeadzNL4 жыл бұрын
I like Leeds since Viduka, Lee Bowyer, Rio,Robbie etc days
@keyuantejohnson62664 жыл бұрын
Chelsea before abramovich had a better team than Leeds
@philh82884 жыл бұрын
I am here after yesterday's very sad that norman hunter died due to this horribl coronavirus RIP. I got to meet him as a 12 year old boy, when he became Johnny Giles' no2 at my beloved West Bromwich Albion.