How real is Chelsea’s title challenge?

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@mehulraj745
@mehulraj745 2 сағат бұрын
I agree with jj, as a Chelsea fan we are not ready. We just want finish in top 4.
@JamesHussain82
@JamesHussain82 2 сағат бұрын
So you'd take 4th, finishing behind Liverpool, Arsenal and City? They're capable of winning it or coming 2nd. Next year they will have CL football, will make a huge difference. They have a great chance this year, and should be going for the title.
@roohdarX
@roohdarX Сағат бұрын
​@@JamesHussain82 It's premature. We don't have a leader at CB or a world class GK, both essentials to win a title. Top 4 is good enough. We didn't expect that at the start of the season and we're far exceeding expectations
@ariefbudiharjo6193
@ariefbudiharjo6193 Сағат бұрын
We only try to get 3 points every game.
@ssyfelix
@ssyfelix Сағат бұрын
as long as jj doesnt praise chelsea, I am optimistic
@kth6736
@kth6736 Сағат бұрын
Top3 sjould be thw target. Ig will be hilarious to finish ahead of arsenal who are challenging for title. 😂
@ogwuemmanuel6705
@ogwuemmanuel6705 3 сағат бұрын
Love this group man
@cuhzlightyear8151
@cuhzlightyear8151 2 сағат бұрын
I think us outperforming our xG has a lot to do with the quality of the chances we create in the box. Under Poch, a lot of our chance creation came from crazy fast paced counters which are easier to miss, where as now we seem a lot more composed and even drilled in the box. This has helped Jackson tremendously imo as you'll notice a lot of his chances come from waiting in the box as opposed to him bombing full speed into the box.
@harryb1429
@harryb1429 Сағат бұрын
Good analysis - agree
@gregrielson
@gregrielson 57 минут бұрын
Outperforming our xG doesn't have to do with higher quality chances created because xG already accounts for high quality chances and gives them more value. The best way to "outperform xG" is to only take the worst shots and they all go in.
@barrybarrybannan
@barrybarrybannan 25 минут бұрын
Outperforming xg is about better finishing, last season we underperformed because our finishing was poor. Now we are converting more and that may be player development or coaching, particularly as person above said regarding players having more composure because they aren’t sprinting all over the place
@nefejefia7475
@nefejefia7475 2 сағат бұрын
Chelsea's title challenge becomes real when we sign an actual goal keeper and at least 1 solid CB
@harryb1429
@harryb1429 Сағат бұрын
Smh man we should have bought Mamardashvili we would be pushing for that title
@nefejefia7475
@nefejefia7475 33 минут бұрын
@harryb1429 we can still go for Diogo Costa or a cheaper alternative like Kelleher
@seanfurniss5283
@seanfurniss5283 2 сағат бұрын
The dynamic of Joe making a silly comment and Jon and JJ dismissively shrugging it off is such a classic
@dlo11794
@dlo11794 2 сағат бұрын
I think this year is a better chance for Chelsea to win the EPL than next season will be. With Chelsea able to play a fully fresh squad every EPL game is a huge benefit, compare to some teams who are having to play players 2-3 times a week. Next year won’t be like that for Chelsea with CL/Europa league next year, City you have to think will bounce back, so honestly this year would be the best chance for them to win it
@mjd_double-ya3904
@mjd_double-ya3904 Сағат бұрын
With their defence, gk, highly experienced manager, average age of 15 and having played together for so many years I think you’re spot on 👍 Upcoming seasons they’ll be lucky to finish in the top half of the table! Especially as next season the rivals will have it much easier with their schedule and aging squads. All makes sense 👍
@scientiaestpotentia2007
@scientiaestpotentia2007 Сағат бұрын
Yeah they won’t play the B squad in the UCL games.
@TurnitMo
@TurnitMo Сағат бұрын
@@mjd_double-ya3904average age is not 15, this squad hasn’t played together for years, it’s probably the newest squad in the PL. Did you use chatGPT? 🤣
@hiramatuhairwe1945
@hiramatuhairwe1945 2 сағат бұрын
I haven't watched the video yet but I can already hear the words, the underlying numbers😂😂😂
@rizaldyrevilleza3662
@rizaldyrevilleza3662 2 сағат бұрын
We aren’t in a title race we just want 3 pts from each match !! 😂
@KuumahBE
@KuumahBE 2 сағат бұрын
I mean, I'll consider the idea once we start beating the teams near us like a Liverpool, like a City. We were good against them but we can't finish them off. Even Slot said we were the best team they've faced this season, which is a great compliment for the blues. I would love nothing more than for us to compete against Liverpool and actually take them off the leader position but their pace is blistering and their consistency started early and is going strong. We'll see in the coming months if they and WE can keep it up.
@Alx-h9g
@Alx-h9g 47 минут бұрын
That stat is wrong. I saw it as well, when you google it, that only Man United have won the league with less than 80 points. But Arsenal also won the league win 78 points in 97/98. So there are in fact 3 teams to win the league with less than 80.
@timmills8521
@timmills8521 2 сағат бұрын
We need a world class CB and exceptional goalie other than that, we're set up superbly for the future .. a very very talented squad with a great camaraderie and attitude, tactically proactive manager who says and does the right things .. we really are good again .
@Withoutbesi
@Withoutbesi 2 сағат бұрын
Maresca has stabilised the team. They’ll be challenging for the next few years. You can see that everyone has bought in into the manager.
@bannnnner
@bannnnner Сағат бұрын
Nothing like a billion spent and "challenging". They've cheated under abramovic and continue to stretch rules to breaking point. No better than City imho
@preethamhazard
@preethamhazard Сағат бұрын
​@bannnnner Nothing like literally selling their whole squad and getting back money from it as well. And they've spent 1.2 billion on 40 players so 30 million per player on average. And cheating 😂? Show me one instance of that with any evidence instead of making baseless accusations, City actuallyhave been accused unlike Chelsea. They found loopholes to get around it and haven't broken any rules. Other clubs were free to do so. Keep crying 😂😂
@bannnnner
@bannnnner 53 минут бұрын
@preethamhazard mate do a tiny bit of googling before chatting. Chelsea have openly admitted to falsifying financial reporting and paid millions as a fine. Cheating. And billion is still a billion mate no matter how many players you buy
@cosminm5270
@cosminm5270 52 минут бұрын
@@bannnnnercry
@bannnnner
@bannnnner 45 минут бұрын
@preethamhazard mate do a tiny bit of googling before chatting. Chelsea have openly admitted to falsifying financial reporting and paid millions as a fine. Cheating. And a billion is a billion mate, doesn't matter how many players you buy
@ScreenAI
@ScreenAI Сағат бұрын
Not long ago, there were people who swore Chelsea would be relegated from the Premier League.
@johnhopkinson7573
@johnhopkinson7573 Сағат бұрын
Disagree with Opta's model 73.64 pt's is a little low i believe we will be around the low 80 point mark (not enough to get above Liverpool), the Opta model would have us declining in the 2nd half of the season and i only see us improving over the course of the season not declining.
@andytc4840
@andytc4840 26 минут бұрын
Opta uses Bayesian statistics (I think), so it's influenced not only by this season's results but also recent years. The reason it has us at 73.6 is that at the start of the year it had us in the 60s... so 73.6 is a significant upgrade. As we continue to perform well it'll continue to upgrade its forecast and if we drop off it'll downgrade it.
@hanifuimuran1123
@hanifuimuran1123 Сағат бұрын
we just want to win each game for 3 points, cheers.
@OurFootball365-x6e
@OurFootball365-x6e 3 сағат бұрын
10:51: so detailed analysis👍 love this channel
@callynbarath4005
@callynbarath4005 Сағат бұрын
WE ARE NOT IN A TITLE CHALLENGE
@CyberpunkXIX
@CyberpunkXIX 55 минут бұрын
As Chelsea fan since 1999, this year we just want top 4, if getting all 3 points every game is possible it's huge bonus but in the end Champions league spot is absolute! But I believe there is lot to come from Maresca and these current team with little bit adjustment here and there, Maresca definetly get our support!!! 💙💙💙💙
@TheLitoshi
@TheLitoshi 51 минут бұрын
We're not in any title race. The title race normally begins in March, that's when you'll see the teams who can go the distance. Christmas period convolutes the table and disorients perception. We are scoring more goals, with our players, especially Jackson, performing better than their xG, something they didn't do last season. Also, I think the squad has benefitted from Maresca's less physically intense approach. Whatever happens, the aim this season is to win the ECL and get back into the UCL, any other thing is noise and should be avoided.
@mysubramanya
@mysubramanya 2 сағат бұрын
Best in the business analysis from you guys.. never disappoints
@boluwatifebabatola8320
@boluwatifebabatola8320 3 сағат бұрын
Cant wait to watch this
@sohamdas3488
@sohamdas3488 3 сағат бұрын
Very real... More than u believe... More than u believe.
@mjd_double-ya3904
@mjd_double-ya3904 Сағат бұрын
Jo is an absolute treasure 👏
@erica2980
@erica2980 49 минут бұрын
Just to be clear, while Lavia did get hit in the head Maresca said the sub was for tactical reasons and not because he was injured. Apparently Lavia is fine.
@blessingjolly5983
@blessingjolly5983 3 сағат бұрын
We're not In the title charge. We're just trying to get 3 points
@abhishekjain6452
@abhishekjain6452 Сағат бұрын
No mention of the fixture difficulty. Think Chelsea have had atleast till 4 games ago one of the most difficult fixtures. With the next seven games maximum points and we get to see a proper title challenge.
@nigelyrn
@nigelyrn 3 сағат бұрын
come on you blues💙
@KiNASuki
@KiNASuki 2 сағат бұрын
8:31 I like to know the position of the overhead camera that able to not be blocked by his head lol
@mTLpHfumfaomd
@mTLpHfumfaomd 2 сағат бұрын
Basically they've bought talented individuals and lucking out on Palmer, put them in a simple structure to allow them to shine
@jackparrish5380
@jackparrish5380 Сағат бұрын
If it’s so simple how come no other team is able to do it like Chelsea
@preethamhazard
@preethamhazard Сағат бұрын
😂😂 Where was this reasoning last few years, when they were in 10th?
@cantripleplays
@cantripleplays 42 минут бұрын
@@jackparrish5380simple doesn’t mean easy. And I mean there are plenty historical examples of teams in simple base tactical structures who succeeded. I mean there’s a reason that people say genius’s love simplicity
@milanbora1780
@milanbora1780 Сағат бұрын
But now I think a lot of the 2nd team players are making inroads in the 1st team as well . As we saw against Southampton where we dominated with most of the 2nd team. And players like Felix, mudryk are more than ready now to contribute equally for the first team as well, thus I do believe we will still be able to rotate quite well next season as well even if we play in the champions league.
@coolandintelligent
@coolandintelligent Сағат бұрын
There is nothing we chelsea fans enjoy more than getting written off. Have u guys ever asked urselves, why real madrid always win the championsleague whenever they have a decent team in europe? That's because there is a spirit following them! If chelsea was in arsenals position they would either have already won the league or championsleague. Keep on underrating chelsea, as far as i am concerned, we chelsea are in a relegation fight!
@brandonmccolley1064
@brandonmccolley1064 56 минут бұрын
We chelsea supporters have gone through enough disappointment the past couple years. If people wanna put us in the title conversation, great, but after 2 years of being excluded from the Champions League, top 4 is genuinely the only goal we NEED to achieve. Anything less than that is absolutely a failure, but i dont want to hear people trying to convince us that not winning the premier league in our first season under our coach with a bunch of kids is somehow some colossal failure.
@stevebousfield1002
@stevebousfield1002 Сағат бұрын
As a Chelsea fan, love this
@DanielS10291
@DanielS10291 Сағат бұрын
Some Pokemon in their second phase are fully evolved
@henokgebre7896
@henokgebre7896 38 минут бұрын
I hope i am not jumping the gun here but this season chelsea have a great chance for the title if (something tells me that they secretly are going to) push and test liverpool. It depends on liverpool's mentality and fitness toward second half of season. Mark my words next season and the seasons to come, i have no doubt chelsea will dominate domestically and in europe if they get rid of dead wood. Imagine Estevao, Paez, Santos. Jorgensen is good enough to be starting, pending sanchez getting suspended for a match. Add one confortable rcb (van hecke from brighton) and we are set. Mareska is also turning from a mere coach to a manager.
@parmaman8551
@parmaman8551 2 сағат бұрын
We’re not in a title race but I’ll be delighted if we came 1st
@alistairstewart9975
@alistairstewart9975 Сағат бұрын
Real Chelsea fans know we are not contenders. We will still have a bad spell at some point in the season. Top 4 and win the Conference League will be a great season given where we have been the last couple of years. Great video BTW.
@kingshark9057
@kingshark9057 Сағат бұрын
Not this year we aren't balanced and we need 1 year with champions league football before we can genuinely win it so a minimum of 2 seasons
@liam1666
@liam1666 47 минут бұрын
I think top 4 was our goal beginning of the season and I'd be happy with that but I can see us going above arsenal the squad depth could play a massive difference, a few injuries to arsenal and they struggle
@kavabungaman5983
@kavabungaman5983 2 сағат бұрын
That gk spot is what is gonna cost us the league , we send our best gk on loan and put Sanchez as n1.
@wobbly_doo
@wobbly_doo 40 минут бұрын
We're not in the title race. We're just chill guys enjoying our football. At this point we're just looking forward to securing 40 points to not get relegated
@hellbestie
@hellbestie 2 сағат бұрын
I mean I think Liverpool is better and will win, so in terms of pure will they win I don't know how real it is- but as for how good they are, it's pretty damn good. Good enough where it's disappointing cause I can't mock and laugh at them anymore
@PatrickTCAPIreland
@PatrickTCAPIreland Сағат бұрын
Doing well but yeah not ready to win anything but getting CL would be a great improvement.
@24xv555
@24xv555 3 сағат бұрын
Fer realllll of course
@Samuel_mm7
@Samuel_mm7 Сағат бұрын
Manager says we're not in title race, players say we're not in title race, fans say we're not in title race. Athletic: "How real is Chelsea's title challenge". Hmm
@thetenorplayer
@thetenorplayer Сағат бұрын
calma, we just want our 3 points and to keep it moving to the next game
@deploy_leroy
@deploy_leroy 2 сағат бұрын
Maresca, in his debut season, is delivering a more compelling title challenge than someone still "trusting the process" in their fifth year?
@Flash4ML
@Flash4ML Сағат бұрын
Rent free
@Photodrive-h8u
@Photodrive-h8u 41 минут бұрын
​@@Flash4ML saying "rEnT fRee" to a comment from your rival team while your own fanbase took every opportunity to mention the name of Chelsea in the past 2 years while chanting the London is red is a pretty good comeback. Keep it up lad good team you've got, trust the process Surely
@fillipe4700
@fillipe4700 2 сағат бұрын
The trinity always cooking
@ajakaiyeezraojo8046
@ajakaiyeezraojo8046 Сағат бұрын
For Chelsea to even be in this conversation says it all.
@spiderneil
@spiderneil 42 минут бұрын
It’s too early to predict the title race. Injuries and fatigue play a massive part.
@helplessiguess
@helplessiguess Сағат бұрын
love them changing cameras just to show them nodding, so funny
@vitalijsmatulkovs5220
@vitalijsmatulkovs5220 2 сағат бұрын
9:20, 443 in possesesion😆
@abdirisaqosmaan
@abdirisaqosmaan Сағат бұрын
What happened to the Ange episode?
@isakibrahim8316
@isakibrahim8316 2 сағат бұрын
We’re not title challengers, we just wanna collect three points every week👍🏽
@fugaziishime
@fugaziishime 3 сағат бұрын
Its not real but very impressive. I was convinced chelsea were done as an institution.
@hugbobble
@hugbobble 2 сағат бұрын
remember last year, when these exact three said Chelsea wouldn't be any good for another 3 years? lol
@solfeggietto8306
@solfeggietto8306 30 минут бұрын
Who is the Hugo Boss '90s guy in the photo on the wall?
@DanielS10291
@DanielS10291 Сағат бұрын
The answer is cole palmer is unreal
@JoClinton
@JoClinton Сағат бұрын
We are not in the title race is it by force ?
@SanFranFan30
@SanFranFan30 Сағат бұрын
Jon McBull and JJ Kenzie
@officialrozay4515
@officialrozay4515 Сағат бұрын
Allow it man We are not in the Title race so take it or leave it lol
@iqbalalibasyah1612
@iqbalalibasyah1612 Сағат бұрын
no. we have 75 players. our owner doesn't understand football and crazy our players are too young our coach is inexperienced our transfer strategy is a fiasco we just want to get 3 point at a time
@Wickedwizard1998
@Wickedwizard1998 Сағат бұрын
Chelsea are back to being the media darling.
@fault.
@fault. Сағат бұрын
As real as Santa Claus
@drex5160
@drex5160 3 сағат бұрын
Chill...Enzo can't smell it yet 👃🏻
@stevec5034
@stevec5034 10 минут бұрын
The media (not The Athletic) are so desperate to turn this into a title fight. I'm afraid Liverpool have already won the league.
@nazmulahsan4057
@nazmulahsan4057 3 сағат бұрын
EPL is more drama than football
@dave4728
@dave4728 22 минут бұрын
so praising chelsea for more goals than xg goals scored but we have a bad defence because xg goals conceeded has us at 11th even though at the moment chelsea have the 3rd best defence? nothing like picking and choosing stats
@timothytumusiime2903
@timothytumusiime2903 4 минут бұрын
"Chelsea we're actually quite good last season" ... excuse me sir 🧐🤨
@superflyjimmysnucka9068
@superflyjimmysnucka9068 2 сағат бұрын
Only 2 teams have conceded fewer goals than Chelsea!
@Mogojoegotube
@Mogojoegotube Сағат бұрын
About as real as spurs trophy hopes 😂
@om4482
@om4482 Сағат бұрын
Everyone seem to have forgotten Spuds were one of the favorites for the Title around this time last season. Chelsea's wins this season are mostly down to the subs from the bench which would be countered by teams going forward.
@jackparrish5380
@jackparrish5380 Сағат бұрын
You couldn’t be any more wrong
@preethamhazard
@preethamhazard Сағат бұрын
😂 😂 Tell me you don't watch football, without telling me you don't watch football. Spuds played only 10 games and were top in November last year and lost badly to a dysfunctional Chelsea, while Chelsea have played 15 games and faced all the big teams and are still 2nd. Their manager is naive and is not good defensively, while Chelsea are better defensively. Zero ball knowledge
@om4482
@om4482 41 минут бұрын
@@preethamhazard If you believe that ,you don't watch football...dont tell tell you dont.
@Tuan-FistofFury
@Tuan-FistofFury 28 минут бұрын
They just need to buy another 20 players then the title are theirs next season.
@Photodrive-h8u
@Photodrive-h8u 57 минут бұрын
Defence wins titles. We dont have a good defence. Sanchez is not the one. Colwill and fofafa need experience. Looking at defence of Liverpool, chelsea looks like highschool team. One injury from caicedo and with no midfield support, it wont be easy. Unlike claims from arsenal, title race needs us to commit on not conceding unnecessary goals.
@joev4643
@joev4643 2 сағат бұрын
top 4 sure,. we cant compete with a goal keeper like sanchez and the defense we have right now
@Okafor1000
@Okafor1000 45 минут бұрын
We are not in the title race, leave us alone
@jamesscott5603
@jamesscott5603 Сағат бұрын
Your stats dont take into account chelseas clear improvement game by game and also their decent run of games. Chelsea have the 3rd best goals conceded and have scored the most and have played all of the top 6. Sometimes your stats get to complex. Like maresca keep it simple😂
@Neomdk
@Neomdk Сағат бұрын
We're not in a title race
@tomatokosir
@tomatokosir Сағат бұрын
Please don't use Arial, it's a cheap and poor knockoff of Helvetica, because Microsoft didn't want to pay licence.
@ziphovena3604
@ziphovena3604 2 сағат бұрын
It’s not real we are just trying to make top 4
@ruderakshakarwa6333
@ruderakshakarwa6333 2 сағат бұрын
We know liverpool will face injuries in the later half like they always do 😂
@iammohaumodiko
@iammohaumodiko 2 сағат бұрын
We aren't in any title race.
@rbhsuperman
@rbhsuperman Сағат бұрын
we just want to avoid relegation by winning every next game. just dont mind us
@avillageofbigheads
@avillageofbigheads 26 минут бұрын
once Chelsea lose to Brentford this weekend, this title challenging Chelsea narrative will stop . and I hope it does.
@michaelnkansah
@michaelnkansah 2 минут бұрын
Please stop this constant notion of Chelsea been in the title challenge. Chelsea is NOT in a title race end of. 😒
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 42 минут бұрын
If Chelsea win anything it will be,just prove that football is broken.
@uzer4935
@uzer4935 3 сағат бұрын
I think they have only 1 world class player and this is Palmer. It's not enough to win prem
@mikefun7482
@mikefun7482 3 сағат бұрын
Caicedo is not world class?
@tshegosebolai7785
@tshegosebolai7785 36 минут бұрын
Sancho,Caicedo,Cucurella,James,Felix,what to you mean bro,watch a chelsea game before talking
@aakarmamtora3470
@aakarmamtora3470 3 сағат бұрын
Not really. Just benefiting from other top teams not being at their best. When they catch up chelsea will be behind them end of season. Still a good season for them though
@hussainjay2387
@hussainjay2387 Сағат бұрын
Chelsea are not in a title race and would be lucky to finish 4th!
@stephengillett9771
@stephengillett9771 Сағат бұрын
who cares i just enjoy watching them win
@DamienUjomu
@DamienUjomu 2 сағат бұрын
Pls leave Chelsea with your challenge we don't do challenge we just acquire 3 points
@davidcobb77
@davidcobb77 46 минут бұрын
Let’s be honest, football nerds, you’ve got everything wrong for the last 3 years, basically. Liverpool have won 28 of their 35 points from the bottom half of the league. Admittedly, they’ve played themselves into form and have beaten some good teams, but don’t be surprised when they start having a bad run, although you will, because you’re clueless student content monkeys.
@TheRealMemeCollector
@TheRealMemeCollector 3 сағат бұрын
first
@timmills8521
@timmills8521 2 сағат бұрын
We need a world class CB and exceptional goalie other than that, we're set up superbly for the future .. a very very talented squad with a great camaraderie and attitude, tactically proactive manager who says and does the right things .. we really are good again .
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