Tight & low-speed U-turns on a motorcycle | Learn with MotoGymkhana

[@MIkeAldea]

I would have liked to hear more about the technique for slow tight turns without using the clutch. Everything else I see emphasizes holding the clutch at the friction point for u-turns.

[@syedsyafiq14]

Correct me if I’m wrong but for me what I usually do is while executing the turn is to use your rear brakes. Have a bit of pressure while you gas the bike else the next option I do most often is second gear have sufficient rolling speed then execute the turn, halfway through the turn give it a little gas and use rear brakes if it’s pulling away too fast.

[@samuelmathews6120]

I’ve been riding for about 5 years now. I’m 29. Tonight I just figured out how to trust my bike and do the tightest figure 8 the bike can possibly do. It was so much fun. I was doing it in a Walmart parking lot for like 10 minutes. People were staring at me but I was cheesin.

[@darlingimscared]

It's funny I don't get anything out of speed but the most fun I ever had was practising 8 figures and U turns for my UK mod 1 test. To three years on and my mates never get it but the most fun I have on my bike is messing around in empty car parks! When ever there's a road closure I'm delighted because I get to show off my tight as f*** U turn skills on my 900 hehe

[@steadycruising3251]

First time I heard of a biker who doesn't enjoy speed

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

@@steadycruising3251 The problem with speed is that your brain adjusts to it. I do like speed, but I have a definite preference for more technical riding.

[@johnborron1059]

I'm there with you on that one.

[@stewartnorton6386]

Lol same here. I'm currently doing my das but a couple of weeks ago hired a 125 for the day to get my bike head back on. I ride for about an hour and a half on roads but it was busy and I didn't enjoy bit much, but then I spent four hours by myself in a large empty factory carpark. Set up a course using bits of rubbish and had the best time pushing myself to get my turns and figure 8 smaller and getting my stopping distance down....best fun I had I only had to stop as my legs were getting fatigued from being in a cramped position on a small bike.

[@Cheezmonka]

I think it's time for y'all to try out some supermoto shenanigans if you have access to one.

[@agisler87]

I love this. I am so interested in this sport. Going fast is fun but having complete control in slow maneuver. The US is pretty scarce on these types of classes.

[@justinleary9643]

Hi Andrew, I don't know how close you are to California, but James is a great guy so get in touch for info m-gymkhana.com/

[@thomaschadwick8379]

RideLikeAPro.com has several training sessions in almost every state. Search KZbin.

[@ShellShock794]

Andrew Gisler Motorcycle culture in America is extremely disappointing. It's very niche and is either old guys on Harley's that don't know what a lean angle is or college kids on super sports that don't know what thinking ahead is

[@SteroidsR4Championss]

this course is required in my state to get a license :/

[@johnjacob688]

SteroidsR4Championss, what state is that?

[@milovanpuric318]

Buy one old bike and just do it for hours, with no regrets if it goes down. Technically it will be the same after , with little bit of adjusting , depending on next bike, but once when you got general techniques , entering /braking/ exiting , it will be huge improvement.

[@Paiadakine]

That’s what I need to do.

[@johnborron1059]

That was a great video man. I have to do a very simple version of this every 2 years as a refresher course for my job. We do this on small bikes but I spend a lot of time negotiating the streets on a road bike and always work on my skills, and it never occurred to me that there was a thing like this. I enjoy the little courses in the car park and wish we did more of it in the day on these training courses. It was clear you enjoyed the day and I really enjoyed what you said about being more one with the machine. I know a shitload of motorcyclists and I've never heard one describing their relationship to their bike like that. Yet that's how I feel; my bike is a mid range japanese road bike, I've only had it for a year, and seeing it was 15 years old needed a lot of work, which is 99% completed. For the purposes I need it for it is perfect, but one thing I've really enjoyed this last year is about how much I have become 'one' with this bike. Well put.

[@patriciabramble6704]

My husband enjoyed this video. He is now learning to ride, actually we are, so we are gaining confidence in turning at slow speeds.

[@RobertMacCready]

Have autocrossed my sports car for over 20 years. I think doing something similar on my 2 wheels would be great fun. Thanks for the video.

[@limitless1692]

Where is the Learning part ??

[@barry7608]

I ride big bikes like hyper sports Hyabusa and V max, yet I do not consider myself a great rider I just enjoy the ride. I reckon this is a hit and would be keen to take up the challenge. I feel it could also be a good spectator sport as I've seen some incredible power rides by the aliens who would most likely be able to smoke it and mono the course. Its a sport for all ages, abilities and bikes. Love it and thanks for the intro

[@jasonshortphd]

Thanks for sharing that, it looked a LOT of fun. Your cheer when you did that second run made my day!

[@bluegtturbo]

I can see how this would improve road safety. I've just started out on a Supercub 125 at a late stage in life and managing u turns and figure of 8s is proving challenging!

[@altioraspero]

I’m an ole boy looking at a SuperCub at the moment. Fell of the training bike doing a figure of 8 on a CBT day. I really struggle on turns and very tense. How are you getting on since your post. Any tips?

[@motoryzen]

4:25. Eddie of Motojitsu says when doing very slow speed turns ( like such as 7 mph or slower) you may need to COUNTER balance the bike. ..Meaning if you're trying to lock the handlebars turning LEFT as much as possible, you'll need to lean your body and put most or all of your body weight to the RIGHT to keep the bike upright enough to safely finish that turn without the bike successfully falling all the way over to the left. This is because at certain amounts of slowest speeds, there is not enough centrifugal force of going forward fast enough otherwise. I tested this info today and YES it IS true and works. It's just tricky as to how much leaning the opposite direction you're trying to turn..vs the speed versus the split second you lock them handlebars and keep them locked the entirety of the turn that matters. All the combinations of those will have to be figured out on your own with consistent practice. Cheers.

[@gregorylagrange]

That is one way of doing it. But most people who are afraid of doing u turns are afraid of leaning the bike. And they don't realize how far they can lean the bike over and have it not fall over. And what they also do when they try it that makes things worse is because they're apprehensive is try to coast through a slow speed U turn. With throttle control and maybe using the brakes or slipping the clutch if needed, if they would drive through the turn (not accelerate) they will find they can lean the bike over a lot farther than they thought. If you look at some moto gymkhana videos and look at the sections where they make very tight circles around cones. Not the part where they are going relatively quickly. Just the parts where they slow down and make circles around cones. You'll see how far they can lean the bike over. It still requires some counter balance with the body, just not as exaggerated as in the way he was showing it done. His way kept the bike more upright. Or look at the beginning of this video and you'll see the rider make a tight U turn within two parking spaces. And you'll see that he leans the bike over instead of moving his body way to the outside to keep the bike closer to upright. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5vcnad3dquGaqc

[@Christian-ve1wi]

Fast Eddie he the man.

[@zhukie]

Yep hanging your arse off the opposite side of the seat helps definitely lol

[@stuffypoo]

@@gregorylagrange This is correct. A lot of people think you need to counter weight during slow speed tight turns or U-turns, but as demonstrated here, you can still counter steer without doing any counter weighting during a U-turn. Fast Eddie's way of doing it is more impractical as you have to slip the clutch, drag rear brake, throw your body on the opposite side. That's a lot, especially for a new rider. The Japanese style U turn is way more practical once you get it down.

[@seniorrider9337]

​@@stuffypoo If you watch a lot of moto gymkhana, the top riders hardly move their body at all. To get the turns as tight as possible, and the top riders make so very tight turns, you want the max lean. Moving around on the bike probably upsets the rhythm of throttle, turn, brake. Being good at this sport will take a lot of practice and learning to trust the lean of the bike.

[@TheEnergyball]

Great to learn about this method to develop riding and handling. I'm interested to find this here in the Washington, DC area. Thank you for sharing.

[@Turnbull62]

Ali S Check out ‘motor man Jerry Paladino’. Police bike instructor in Florida. Does classes in eastern US. Also training videos and of course Utube.

[@patrickcoleman3]

Fast Eddie can show you how to U Turn like a champ.

[@heremansmarc]

False, this (gymkhana) technique is far far better than the outside position presented by Fast Eddie. Same with the technique presented by antipilotedelignedroite, u-turn on less than 5 meters (16.5 feet). kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5vcnad3dquGaqc kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGTRn3yBgr9-ias kzbin.info/www/bejne/omKcqIdvobSDqMU Another example of the inutility of counterbalancing with a video of the Japaneese police, see at 1'02'' and, another example 33'09''. Of course, they go a 'little' faster lol. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHunoZecopqdbcU

[@echevarriawilson]

You're absolutely right brother. Fast Eddie is the Mr.Miyagi of u turns. Check him out doing a 16 ft u turn. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJXEpJJsaZZ7jrs

[@keaponlaffin6737]

Fast eddie is a nasty egocentric guy. Has good videos, but feathering the clutch is a pretty stupid thing to do. In case of panic you might pull it all the way in, and your bike loses all its drive instantly. Crash. Or, your revs might really pow wow up, you panic for a second time, let the clutch go and boom, bike shoots out from under you. Good luck though!

[@greyanaroth]

The only reason I feather the clutch is because I'm terrified the bike might stall at super slow speeds on the road since we have hazards here coming from every possible direction. Also, fast Eddie has great videos, even though he tends to come across as a bit brusque. But what he's done for motorcycling is very commendable

[@paulsmyth497]

John. I always love your vids mate. Moto gymkhana or hacking through security chains / disk locks in your back yard, or tests for chain lube rust "Scientific" experiments, or security in your shed. Brilliant. Top Notch mate. As a re-invented 59 year old biker, with a 30 odd year hiatus until 2 years ago - I utterly love your stuff mate. Cheers

[@noeljohnson690]

That looks like a lot of fun, and not a million miles from me either. Thanks.

[@hjnhynjnhslyjnkhjngnjnslyr7330]

Im always made u turn decision on important things in my daily life..im a master

[@williamtrotsenburg9821]

I'm practicing u-turns and figure 8s at a motorcycle driving school. And what I have learned is keep the throttle a bit up and use the back break. No clutch..

[@davidmwakisole2545]

You all have great bikes,One day I wish I will own one

[@n228sk]

Seems like a worthwhile course to take, but I don’t understand the often repeated commentary about not using the clutch. I’ve always been taught that using the “friction zone” while keeping constant power was the key to tight low speed turns. Would someone please explain what I’m not getting about this?

[@Cheezmonka]

I've seen it taught both ways, and at this point I think it's down to personal preference and what bike you happen to be on. On my current V-Strom 650 I definitely need to use a little bit of both depending on how sharp I need to turn, but on my previous bike, an SV650, it was all rear brake and no issues whatsoever. Same engine platform actually, but the different set up of the bikes themselves along with my personal experiences means I require different approaches. I think the most important thing anyone can do is to go out and just practice somehwere safe and decide for yourself what seems to be working for you the most consistently, and if nothing feels right then it's time to get online and start asking around on clubs and forums to see if any experienced and knowledgeable riders that live nearby would like to help out some time.

[@luislaurencio]

I changed from using the clutch to just carring more speed and using the back brake and i improved in 1 day, in just 1 day i could do the uturns inside two parking spots

[@Zodliness]

Very useful information for new and experienced riders, thanks for sharing.

[@Dutchguy74]

can you do a tighter you u- turn with motoGymkhana then with traditional technique, like in holland you have to be able to do a u-turn within 6 meters, i dont need that much actually, how many meters you need with motogymkhana technique ?

[@ApaiLuka]

It is nice being able to make it move when you want an were.

[@NhoyBarangay]

I could do a U Turn on a very narrow road with my G310R, but I have no confidence on doing it on my R nine T or R1200R. ü

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Motogymkhana is a totally different beast. Try that without clutch on a public road with average and gravelly surface.... Impressive though.... Add to that, get your throttle slightly wrong over a bump and bye bye bike. ☺

[@hiflyer358]

That's the first time I've ever heard of someone referring to anything as a "non-lethal motorsport"

[@Jafmanz]

I bet he played road rash like me! ever since then all i see are oppertunities for chains and heads!

[@bulasturubula3660]

i'm a simple man ! I see Gymkhana, i press Subscribe

[@FBK-811]

I wish there’s a drone view , which can help me to draw a line of my weekness in any empty area near home .

[@paulgraham6353]

This is a great thing. I take any bike to an open paved lot and do 8's until I enjoy how it glides. Just like they're saying

[@paulgraham6353]

Thanks for all the links !

[@danocreations]

@@paulgraham6353 you haven't got likes lol

[@motonoob-i2d]

I'm really digging motogymkhana - are there any books on the techniques and how to practice it?

[@cpuuk]

OK, where can we start learning these skills again?

[@phillippayne8170]

I’m doing my big bike license at the moment and u turns are in the test I generally use the clutch but I’ve been told to only use the back brakes and throttle feels odd but they want to see you controlling the bike not the bike controlling you more practice needed but I’m getting their

[@jezzamarkham5285]

Phillip Payne Keep the throttle at a set pulling point for manoeuvring and use the rear brake for speed adjustments on the turns or course. Only change the throttle to go faster on the straight or close it when you stop. Practise it and you'll be fine. Good luck with the test 👍

[@ronmessico8012]

You can use the clutch and the back brake. Just let off on the clutch slowly while dragging the rear brake and turn the handlebars. Pretty simple stuff. Looks difficult but it really isn't.

[@verigone2677]

Dear me, seeing a proper granddad running a MotoGymkhana... I can only hope to be 5% that badass at his age

[@mariohanzek712]

What would be the recommended tire pressure for moto gymkhana training?

[@joenice242]

I like the approach of this channel.

[@harleydavidsontherapy1376]

Great video! I'm still horrible at u turns

[@keithappel5021]

I love this episode is there a national list for this type of activity something in the US possibly.I really think this would sharpen my skills all the way around any info would be greatly appreciated

[@RTD553]

In shipping, port (left) is always red. Here it is a right hand cone. I would find that really confusing at first.

[@LickyDischarge]

I’d only be able to do this on a Grom 😅

[@roydaroyni]

I got jealous with you, guys... I cannot find moto gymkhana clubs/communities nor competitions in my country, Indonesia. Could anyone please advise me how to start one?

[@hugorosillo4605]

Great, now you have my interest and i gotta find a course in spain

[@Juan2Wheels]

Did you find it? I want that too

[@cliffdiamond7984]

I enjoyed that. Good job! But I did get a chuckle out of that final stop. All front brake! LOL.

[@avulonanderson2372]

No point using the back if the rear wheel is off the floor.

[@oakstrong1]

This looks fun. I wish there was something like this where I live.

[@kislyjdozhdik]

hey, just get some pylons and a free parking place and go on! :)

[@iainsuggett7673]

there can be all you need to do is start soing is nad ask your local countries or regional organisation for help and guidance

[@disekjoumoer]

I have a KTM 990 SMT, with possibly the world's snatchiest throttle. I wouldn't try a low speed turn without feathering the clutch a bit.

[@justinleary9643]

disekjoumoer that's a true point. I have a Superduke 990 and for that I do need clutch, a lot. The SD is fairly on/off. Most bikes clutch out works fine

[@kueppi96]

Own the same bike. Wouldn't do with my current skill level, I believe with more training it can be done without clutch

[@mose717]

The first generation Suzuki V-Strom 1000's are also famous for having a snatchie throttle and they're really top heavy because they're so tall.

[@azza9423]

Mt07 here- can't speak for other bikes, but theres just no soft spot on the throttle, it either bites and goes or you are accelerating, feathering of the clutch is a must for me, which doesn't bother me, wet clutches are designed for that, just gotta remember to keep that practice seperate from my car hahah.

[@Ducati_Dude]

What is the point of posting a commercial that can be 'Skipped'... ❔❔❔

[@arrowstheorem1881]

KZbin right now has zero video on how to do U-turn with cargo in the top box of say 100litres capacity or larger weighing 30-50kg. The box also creates the effect of the bike being pushed by the wind due to the box eg. Fibreglass box

[@seabiscuit726142]

usually top boxes are limited to 10-15 kg payload. I have a 30L top case and the manufacturer doesn't recommend to carry more than 7kg payload. I've yet to see a 100kg top case.

[@johnd4788]

This is what I would like to do on bike

[@irvan36mm]

I’d like to try it, but on a Honda Grom instead of my Harley Iron 883. lol

[@2JZDestroyer]

I plan on buying a motorcycle, would it be foolish to practice figure eights with my road-bike before the purchase?

[@dancingkids5158]

So all rear brakes and no clutch. Which gear did you use the most?

[@awrebyawe]

Yeah I'm really curious about this technique but it isn't explained.

[@spannersnapper]

its all in first gear so you use the back brake to reduce the snatch and jerk most people get when in 1st. after a while you get more subtle with the throttle ad it all smooths out

[@BrunonGL]

when someone tells me I need to use facebook to enter any "hobby" I immediately know it is "thanks, but no thanks".

[@tibbsazoid]

It's basically impossible to learn this stuff in the UK, there is nowhere at all you can practice. Every square inch of tarmac is either behind a locked gate, covered in CCTV cameras or guarded by security staff. We can't ride several hours down a motorway to get to a club just to practice U turns. We pay an insane amount of tax, I don't think having some purpose built areas in each city is asking too much. How do you learn to reverse a car towing a trailer? Same issue.

[@TimelessGamingUK]

I’d love to try this. Really want to be able to turn sharply at slow speeds as it’d be mega useful on the road. I can see myself getting really addicted to chasing faster times on the course too.

[@justinleary9643]

the next experience day is 28 July at Donington Park moto-gymkhana.co.uk/experience-day/

[@stags-gr8to]

Hello, video has been out there a while, but I’ve only just seen it. Can I ask was it only the BACK brake you used, or did you use the front also? It was a great video, really enjoyed it!

[@justinleary9643]

from speed to decelerate, mainly front , then transition from front to back in the turn. Would recommend a beginner starts slow and back brake only. Practice, practice. Are you UK? Come along to an event

[@stags-gr8to]

justin leary Thanks for the information and advice Justin, I’ll take a look and see if I can see if I can find an event somewhere near Somerset, thanks again 😊

[@WillPower46]

Even the instructor has some pretty decent crash bars on his bike...

[@RhinoDan]

Very cool and this looks so much fun !

[@Motovibes91]

With the bigger dicplacement bikes you can't use the rear brake technique due to the engine braking force. So you must use the clutch. Same goed with combined abs systems

[@bsz9962]

Whenever i see those videos of the Japanese Gymkhana guys, they almost never touch the clutch. So i believe the trick is to just focus on throttle in first gear and the rear brake while full locking the handle bars am i right?

[@motoryzen]

You're correct, depending on the bike, except for super slow speed tightest turning...Ask Motojitsu's Fast Eddie for more details. Cheers.

[@gregorylagrange]

It's more than that. The competitions they do go thru the gears a little. But I would say the "trick" is learning to use a combination of body position, momentum, and learning how far you can actually lean the bike over to make tight turns. Even with the handle bars locked. The biggest apprehension people probably have is they feel their speed isn't enough to hold up a bike at a deep lean angle and that they think they are going beyond the tread on their tires. When in fact they can make the turn without falling over and they are pretty far away from the tread edges. A good thing to do is to get some chalk and made a bunch of lines on your tires across the tread. Sidewall to sidewall. Make some low speed turns, then stop and see how much chalk you have left on the tire. You'll probably surprise yourself as to the amount of lean angle you had left.

[@mose717]

Chalk lines on the tires is a great idea. I always feel like the bike is going to slip out from under me, the key is practice. I use an empty parking lot late at night and I'm still learning to trust the bike.

[@pareshprajapati7916]

Superb excellent 👍 Thank you sir 🇮🇳🕉️🙏

[@angrydinosaur8plus9]

5:06 no clutch at all? Is this a common technique or only for smaller bikes?

[@Tobeon2]

I am confused with "NOT using the clutch at all" at the tight (270 degree?!?) turn. Is it because you want to go fast ? As a novice rider, I am learning repeatedly these days by motorcycle instructors in the US to use the 'friction zone' which means "NOT using the breaks (especially the front break, but maybe a light(?) rear break) at all, but using the clutch (& maybe a little of throttle) only" during the tight U turns.. What am I missing here ?

[@bennettsbikesocial]

We're generally taught to feather the clutch when learning, but MotoGymkhana helps teach you to carry more speed and not use the clutch (except with very lumpy twins for instance). Yes - back brake is the one to use. I do still feather the clutch a little at low speed, but it's when I'm doing a U-turn from a standstill. Having said that, I need to improve my confidence still and get better at leaning more, carrying more speed and getting the bike turned better. Having the clutch out helps that.

[@Tobeon2]

Bennetts Bike Thank you for your response. I am such a beginner at this point that doing a fast U turn is out of question now. I am just happy to make it tight turn !! But, at least I know now that I can/should practice fast turn when I get better...(^~^)

[@bennettsbikesocial]

There's no rush - biking's all about having fun! If you do get time, I'd really recommend you give MotoGymkhana a go.

[@Tobeon2]

I am seriously looking for a driving school like that other than MSF course here in Chicago or even within the U.S. Other than tracks or racing schools, I am not sure if there is any here. I have a friend living in Barcelona, Spain whom I am planning to visit in the near future. I might look for one there ! .. Thank you again ^^

[@Motogymkhana]

If you are going to Spain - have a look here: facebook.com/groups/1725780954354761/ otherwise check out www.motogymkhana.org

[@Johny40Se7en]

Greta video, it looks really good fun and it looks like you properly enjoyed. I'd love to try this but I'd be a bit nervous to drop my bike =P

[@TarunBathija]

I'm nervous just watching this - how does it not scare people to try this omg

[@adaptiveagile]

Johny40Se7en - Same here. Some of the Japanese riders use a special crash bar (not the type used by stunters) that doesn’t compromise lean angle when riding at pace on the streets. Still looking for GSXR moto Ghymkhana bars. There’s also the added complication of having a low triple clamp and clipon handle bars. All the Japanese guys modify sportbikes with upright bars.

[@GDLOTKIDOG]

This is dope!

[@halrichard1969]

Thx for the tips.

[@bennettsbikesocial]

Thanks for watching! Cheers, John

[@gideonsikk8733]

Is that a honda cbr 600 hes riding wiv rental type handlebars

[@DDHDTV]

So no clutch but rear brake and throttle. Do I do this in 1st or 2nd gear?

[@charlievelez3510]

The u turns, I've practiced them in 1st gear

[@ballaslibra]

Could anyone make u turn on 2nd gear during gymkhana? Or only 1st. I have seen many gymkhana riders can ride when they make u turn and get close with the pylon. So impressed..anyone can tell me how!!

[@denisrailey777]

Awesome vid.Thanks.

[@ricardo6861]

Trying it tmw😊

[@Ducati_Dude]

Buy a few pylons, a stopwatch and bring a friend to time you... 😉👍

[@RanGer-498]

I can do this with ease on my Honda 954rr with ease but on my vtx this is so hard for me.

[@lizdg3892]

This was great. 🎉

[@EvendimataE]

would be nice if there are all the difficult turns, without the remembering the circuit part LOL

[@loomspace]

Are your tires mounted proper direction, looks reverse of what they should be?

[@bennettsbikesocial]

Yes, they are. Ta though.

[@loomspace]

@@bennettsbikesocial Cheers, very much enjoyed the vid.

[@davehysom2636]

Some beautiful bike handling! I'm wondering how best to set up the regen on a Zero for this sort of skill. I usually ride with no regen on throttle let up, max regen on brake. I'm pretty sure that's not what would be best here.

[@thorstambaugh1520]

Go to your custom mode and set throttle regen at 60%, max on brake. You will feel the same type of engine braking as a 600 for instance, Be extremely gentle and light with the throttle due to the instant torque. The rear brake is beautifully set up with regen to help you around the corner. You should only need to barely touch the throttle.

[@RCClubSafetyRidingChannel]

we very love this

[@critstixdarkspear5375]

“Non Lethal”.... hold my fucking beer

[@usernamemykel]

It would help if you DIDN'T have (totally unnecessary) music playing while you are speaking.

[@ianm432]

I thought it was well mixed and a good choice for the video.

[@gitoberg1]

Is this always available to do at donnington

[@bennettsbikesocial]

You'll need to check with MotoGymkhana for dates. Cheers, John

[@luislaurencio]

It sucks that down here in south florida things like this dont happen, all the motorcycle groups are either squids doing illegal shit and ripping it, the wheely/illegal dirtbike/quads group or the like cruiser groups in ftlauderdale. It sucks

[@Chopbreaka]

This is for only slow speeds ? If going into a turn or corner fast and apply rear brake your going down. Do they trail brake ( gentle front brake) in these gymnastics ? Thanks

[@bennettsbikesocial]

Yes, at higher levels the front brake is used in MotoGymkhana. As for using the rear brake at higher speeds, it's a very, very useful technique for scrubbing off some speed while in the bend as it doesn't upset the geometry of the bike like the front brake can (as the suspension compresses). Were not talking about stamping on the back, but I (and others of course) use it to temper speed when necessary. Grab the front at speed in a bend and that can end badly, but use the back to keep the bike settled. Of course, ideally you'll be at the correct speed on the entry to the corner, but the back brake is a very useful tool. John

[@reljoy]

That was fantastic!

[@robthursfield2392]

Can you do this on a v twin sports bike with not much lock

[@bennettsbikesocial]

Yep - any bike can do it... it's the technique that matters

[@67daltonknox]

If you ride in the dirt, it will take a lot to not touch the clutch. Dirt riders are addicted to controlling everything with it.

[@strigon46]

In what gear should you perform u turns?

[@Alphapunk2]

1 if super tight, 2 if you've got space

[@preylist6419]

when applyin rear brake, is throttle kept consistent or off?

[@hybridracers]

Throttle is constant. Just barely on the rear brake is setting up the turn and the throttle is there for instance forward

[@earlwilliams5473]

Practice practice practice

[@1998lemuel]

Anyone know what the bike guy 49 with green vest is using? it like a sports bike but with bars...

[@spannersnapper]

cbr600rr modified wo take the renthal bars

[@stevegordon2644]

So no clutch just throttle and rear brake!??? How much rear brake are we talking

[@jowindavid7560]

What's your jacket?

[@bennettsbikesocial]

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[@leebatt7964]

No such thing as a nonlethal motor sport. Less lethal, absolutely.

[@Dave-ix7xz]

Nothing like this in North east of England

[@liamhudd6735]

Dave donnington do!!

[@glossamano1899]

Nothing like this anywhere in Australia! Somebody prove me wrong......please!!

[@spannersnapper]

@@glossamano1899 yes there is a group in queensland

[@spannersnapper]

there is now based in Darlington

[@robertoh.20]

every video they say you can do motogymkhana with ANY motorcycle, but i never see sports bike being used that haven't been modified (handles).......it's bullshit, you do it on a stock R1, lets see it and post it on youtube

[@jaywhoisit4863]

They should be using navigation colors. Red and green. Blue will confuse anyone from an airline, military, or yacht background.

[@CosmicButPlugg]

I'm sure anyone from an airline, military, or yacht background will realize they are on a motorcycle course and the color blue has no significance in that environment.

[@jaywhoisit4863]

CosmicButPlugg but why confuse people? Red and green been nav colors for over 200 years. What the fuck is blue with little bands? Seriously.?

[@MrRichardH1]

@@jaywhoisit4863 Why swear? Seriously??

[@klauskarlkraus]

I don't want to remember colors just ride

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

If they don't color code it, then how do they do anything complicated? Going nuts like this in a parking lot is an amazing amount of fun, but without color coding, you're really limited in what you can do. Even the MSF's decreasing radius turn exercise would be a lot harder if you didn't have to remember the color of the cones.

[@olivo-viejo]

First or second gear?

[@SoulGuitarMetal]

Second gear. You use first gear to go from a stop to moving only. The only case you would need to keep first gear is during a really steep uphill climb.

[@Summerbe550]

Rene Van Eynde it depends on the bike. I drive a MT 07 and I use the first gear no gas no clutch

[@Raykennaj]

Im not quite sure what to think of this.. This is basic dutch motorcycle skill.. We actually NEED to take a test like this before we are even allowed onto the highways..

[@steve17]

Yeah, right! If it's like anywhere in Europe (not the UK), then, no :) Gymkhana is quite different than the weaves and slaloms you do at the motorcycle school. It's much faster, you have to lean with the bike, instead of the other way, and generally it's much more precise and difficult. Look at how some of the pros do it and you'll see what I mean. They lean the bike down at insane lean angles at such low speeds. It's ludicrous. Also, looking at it from the cameraman's view, it doesn't look that hard. But trust me, if you shorten the radius of the figure 8 from the standard you to for the moto test by even 1 meter, it becomes nearly impossible to do with standard technique.

[@holmiumh]

Looking at a swimming competition and go "I'm not quite sure what to think of this.. This is basis swimming skill.. We actually NEEEEEEED to take a test like this before we are even allowed into the high school..."

[@14nst3w4rt]

same in Singapore, each test (and there are 3; 200cc, 400cc and 600cc) includes a figure8 and other tight turns.

[@spankeyfish]

You have to ride a figure of 8 in your CBT in the UK but with a much bigger turn radius, unless it's changed in the last decade.

[@iainsuggett7673]

this is an introduction course if we rode at competition speed our trainees would not learn anything . go and see richard van shouenberg bert hoste and krisitan eekhof in the netherlands and show them how well you ride mick

[@EinkOLED]

When he says, don't use the clutch, does he mean clutch in for coasting or clutch out for engine braking? I'm guessing he meant clutch in.

[@bennettsbikesocial]

Hi there... not sure which bit you mean, but unless stopped of course, keep your hand off the clutch altogether for this (except on really lumpy twins)

[@fergiy89]

No, he means don't touch it at all, which means leave the clutch out the whole time

[@Thecougar66]

EinkOLED if you want to add a bit more excitement, dip the clutch mid turn, and release it quickly at 6,000 rpm😂 Only joking, DO NOT do that. It won’t end well! Seriously I find on big bikes, I sometimes need to slip the clutch on very tight manoeuvres because the bikes tend to be higher geared. With smaller cc bikes I leave the clutch out for all manoeuvres, and use the back brake to slow the bike down.

[@samsound8510]

He means rather than slipping the clutch in the friction zone to modulate your wheel speed, keep the clutch engaged, throttle open (a bit), and use rear brakes to modulate wheel speed.

[@motormuis818]

@@samsound8510 Maybe I haven't been paying attention and missed the explanation - if so, my apologies - but what's the reason for not bothering with the clutch?

[@kshred3043]

A motorbike turning video with not one mention of 'counter-steering', or 'counter-leaning' for that matter. What's up with that ?

[@tommyapples8490]

Very slow speeds you turn the bars in the direction you want to go and not counter steering

[@rainydayspecial6063]

Gibt es einen Club in Deutschland?

[@Motogymkhana]

Not yet, but we are working on it.

[@rainydayspecial6063]

Moto Gymkhana I look forward to it! Please keep me informed.

[@t.sievers1024]

Hallo. Es gibt vereinzelt Leute die das machen. Offizielle Clubs habe ich nicht gefunden, aber geh mal bei Facebook hierhin: facebook.com/groups/482413755103702/

[@spannersnapper]

motgymkhana Deutschalnsd had been in existence for 2 years now

[@Sowwal]

nice :)