TikTok - China's Best Propaganda Machine

[@AgeingBoyPsychic]

_"Social media is like state surveillance run by gullible volunteers"_ - Stewart Lee

[@TBaguette]

This doesn't really apply to the users who give the best view possible of their life, thus falsifying the information they put online to a certain degree and not reflecting how they actually live. For example, a lot of people look happy in their pictures on Instagram, or videos on TikTok, but feel pretty miserable IRL (sadly for them).

[@AgeingBoyPsychic]

@@TBaguette Yes but a lot of these companies also see the user's private life, eg Facebook owns whatsapp and so can know what's going on in people's private lives, not just the stuff they make public. How much could someone learn about you from your entire whatsapp chat history? Would you be ok publishing it uncensored online? That chat history (or facebook mesenger, instagram, snapchat, tindr etc) exists not only on your phone but also carbon copies on countless servers around the world, that you can't delete.

[@TBaguette]

@@AgeingBoyPsychic I completely agree with you about that.

[@ionitaa]

Had to Google who Stewart Lee is...

[@AgeingBoyPsychic]

@@ionitaa Yeah I knew a lot of people wouldn't know a relatively obscure (but extremely highly regarded) English stand-up comedian, but I'd have felt like a dick passing off his joke as my own...

[@premghinde5560]

So glad I've never installed this ultimate time waster.

[@xanty_3513]

And I’m happy that I deleted it

[@Yasharvl]

exactly, so happy that I’ve never trusted them.

[@emptyplanet]

@@xanty_3513 your data they took already .. :) just saying

[@xanty_3513]

Poppa Pepperoni why? What is it about?

[@beowulfarsene3687]

Same

[@partha2806]

This app is just Toxicity highly concentrated and contained in a software.

[@xanty_3513]

Partha Clasher, I also see a lot of pornography, like girls with big asses,I think that tiktok mustn’t be in the category entertainment, actually in adult content

[@akka3109]

SAME HERE :D

[@partha2806]

@@xanty_3513 Like Tiktok literally made them relevant to the point that it is the only thing people had started using the app for.

[@LittlePenguin1-17]

TikTok is a global PANDAMAC.

[@anon_freedom_anonymous_leg42]

@@LittlePenguin1-17 just like the CCP Virus pandemic 😬

[@KingJellyfishII]

YES! EVERYTHING HAS TO BE F*CKING OPEN SOURCE. Finally, I've found someone who has found the solution.

[@iamsearchingforthefiletmignon]

Good man

[@OchiiDinUmbraa]

If every social media platform was open source, everyone could customise their own social media platform and that would mean a lot of competition for the popular ones. So they will never agree to do that.

[@KingJellyfishII]

@@OchiiDinUmbraa I think you underestimate the amount of work it takes just to run a social media platform, let alone customise and maintain the code. open source doesn't mean anyone can copy you in an instant - they would need server hosting (which is expensive), and good technical knowledge & ability to program to not only add or change features but patch security issues and keep up to date.

[@OchiiDinUmbraa]

​@@KingJellyfishII First, you only need server hosting when the platform has many users. In the beginning, a home computer is enough. Second, you can create a software that add your custom code on top of the original source code and replaces it where it needs to be done. So you can just wait for Facebook to do all the security issues, copy paste it and then add your own custom code. Im study computer science and yes, open source means you can copy paste the entire software and modify it how you like. Would any random person from the street be able to do it? No, but look at cryptocurrencies. There are thousands right now and they all are all based on the same source code.

[@KingJellyfishII]

@@OchiiDinUmbraa that is true, however as you say all of that is fine for a very small number of users, it is difficult when the numbers increase. but if the number of users is low, then it is not a threat to the popular social media companies. so whilst it would be easier than it is currently I don't see it becoming an issue. think of things like signal which are open source and popular and don't have any popular clones.

[@federicogiovine4035]

leaving a sacrificial comment to please the algorithm

[@ferociousjuggler2668]

A small sacrifice, albeit a rather necessary one

[@EssenceOfMine]

it's the best

[@ServantStatusMinistries]

Love these videos he makes

[@ajemajh]

thanks

[@dirremoire]

Methinks the algorithm is getting wise to this practice. Best not to use the word 'algorithm'.

[@samuelsofa]

The algorithm is really addictive just facts

[@newtlyme7820]

It really is, it uses all of this AI just to give you videos that scratch your interests in that right spot to keep you coming back.

[@epsil0gue246]

I always hated this app for the bullshit it caused, now I hate it even more because of the bullshit behind it. Thank you for your continued hard work, friend.

[@s-metrics6431]

I never installed the app in my entire life.

[@TonyRule]

Me either. Nor any of the other so-called 'social media' ones.

[@19trwind82]

Me neither. I never understood why people just simply trust apps from China, especially social apps. Is China all bad? No, of course not, there are many good things coming from China, but freedom of speech, any criticism (even useful ones) of the government or of society are not ones of them. And people like to forget how many Western apps / websites are banned in China since a long time ago. Why not ban some of theirs then as well?

[@dddseknfxmk7831]

Me too

[@capekraken2672]

Foo Fighter you are using social media now lmfaoooo

[@Buddies_official46]

I feel sry for u

[@Foche_T._Schitt]

@The Hated One You forgot to mention TikTok was caught twice accessing anything you copied to the clipboard even when the tiktok wasn't open.

[@dirremoire]

Nope. That's fake news.

[@HeWhoWontBeBack]

@@dirremoire pretty sure it had keylogger anyways

[@dirremoire]

@@HeWhoWontBeBack jeez, all social media apps have key loggers

[@zetorxa]

LinkedIn was also caught

[@abishekbaiju1705]

India recently banned this and we are so happy, there are many haters than the lovers for tiktok here.

[@rish4883]

Hope other countries follow up.

[@crachiolovein5556]

Abhishek Baiju didn’t they ban it due to concerns over child pornography?

[@abishekbaiju1705]

@@crachiolovein5556 No , India and China is currently having many issues in the borders these days. They banned it due to the security reasons.

[@Kikker861]

India made the right choice. China would stop at nothing to get their hands on India's data and internet.

[@gabbo13]

At least the cool kids from India are whining because of the ban.

[@microraptorguy1387]

I never installed that app and never caught my attention. Thank you for this great video, keep rocking!

[@krishna7180]

I'm Going to watch, like and comment on this video with all of my three accounts to increase his engagement.

[@andreeadobre3190]

Just dropping a line to push you in the algorythm, this channel is a goldmine of knowledge. Thanks for all your work!

[@bicyclehorsethesixth5562]

Great video as always. The world needs more people like you just as much as it needs more people to listen, the latter coming because of the former.

[@ifedolapoajetunmobi6258]

I stay in China, and one of the things I hate the most is the whole community of software development in China. Sometimes, I just login alone to a new app, and I go check so storage consumption, and the Chinese app has taken almost 500MB+ of space. How does this come from logging in alone? Sometimes, I think big softwares in China have a centralised database which they all could tap into. At last, it's all for surveillance.

[@kantraa]

TikTok was also caught looking at stuff you copied to your clipboard even when the app wasn't open.

[@bumblebee777]

tik tok wastes time happiness and lifetime UPDATE: Microsoft wants to buy tik tok

[@wintrywind]

lmao here i am 7 months later

[@master138]

Microsoft wants to buy discord

[@saulgoodman1390]

"...with headquarters in Beijing" Shows image of Shanghai

[@iamsearchingforthefiletmignon]

Well they basically look the same 😓

[@Pppp-yf4lj]

Modern viruses, instead of having to force your way in - make the user download and install it themselves.

[@heretic124]

For someone who's so against bans and deplatformation I'm surprised you're using Patreon instead of Subscribestar or other service. With Patreon's hammerbanning history I'm not willing to give them a single cent anymore and hope they'll go under soon since they may lose a very important lawsuit against Owen Benjamin and his fans which would potentially open them for lawsuits by ex-Patrons of every one who they ever banned.

[@Food4thought1234]

heretic124 always about the money. People always cherry-pick what they do.

[@livinginpatheticera3867]

CORPORATION is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. CORPORATION is not the industry of manufacturing products. CORPORATION is in THE INDUSTRY of manufacturing consent.

[@FancyLines]

I mean, Owen is a far-right antisemite, so I can certainly understand why they banned him

[@heretic124]

@@FancyLines Don't know much about him but Carl Benjamin (Sargon of Akkad) or Lauren Southern aren't far-right at all and they couldn't be more reasonable in their content. Yet they got banned for bs reasons.

[@FancyLines]

@@heretic124 Lauren Southern employs racist rhetoric (anti-immigration) & supports the “white genocide” conspiracy theory. Carl Benjamin supports the “Heather Heyer died of a heart attack” theory, the Agenda 21 conspiracy theory, thinks “Cultural Marxism” is a problem, and made misogynistic comments. How are they not far-right?

[@ohnesinn3796]

one of the few videos from you, youtube actually puts into my feed.

[@user-tm3fz7qx3s]

I have been using Matrix for months. It's so close to replacing my Discord account. Thanks for promoting an open platform!

[@elextroblaze]

I feel like discord is a bit more chill with data collection, censoring or something else. Plus my discord account is useful for signing into certain websites quickly

[@jamescampbell6728]

10:53 I 100% agree. And I'm glad to hear that people are considering the real, long term solutions. If you ask me it should be a law that all software should be open source and the US should use the power of their market to pressure companies to make the right decisions instead of cow towing to China's horrible practices (not that I trust the US Gov to do that but we need grassroots movements to focus on it)

[@nayaktuhin]

I don't think all company will agree on open source, and the mentality of the general public must change to explore beyond their comfort zone. If you watch any unboxing of an electronics, you hardly ever find a reviewer saying, well do not select these option of diagnostics, or ad personalisations and stuff, all they do is next -> next -> well setup is done, you saved your time in the cost of your data and any data that you generate. Tik Tok is a part of the CCP's influence, who knows what goes inside of these Chinese smartphones' custom OS skins.

[@chillaxer8273]

The elite doesn't benefit from it

[@NICKELGHANDI]

I don't think more laws is the answer. That puts more power in the hands of those who already benefit from near total control. What we need is for individuals to be responsible for themselves instead of looking for some kind of babysitter for their data while exhibiting no degree of self control. Open source platforms exist and are actually really good. We need them to grow by being used, not by legislation from some government. Let the big corps die because they refuse to change their model and the open source competition does things better. Anything besides that is still essentially communism.

[@space1546]

@@NICKELGHANDI Honestly, that last sentence cracked me up. The word is authoritarian. Use the word authoritarian. Communism is something that is actually much closer to what you advocate than you could ever imagine. What you are advocating for there is much closer to a form of market socialism than it is to capitalism anyway. The state and capital are one and the same. This has become fairly apparent. Socialism is basically just open-source as an economic policy. The only reason you think of communism and socialism the way you do is because of things like the USSR, DPRK, or CCP which all use it as another buzzword, like democratic, or republic, even soviet, a word that originally defined a type of council, all things that none of the authoritarian hellholes actually had. This wasn't helped by the fact that these countries all crushed the actual socialist and communist movements like the C.N.T. F.A.I. or The Free Territory of Ukraine. The way you get things like open-source software to succeed isn't through more authoritarianism. That includes the authoritarianism created via the power structures of capitalism. Capitalism and the state are in a symbiotic relationship, helping each other extract wealth and power from the workers. You want to end the violation of your privacy? Well, the way you do it is simple. Fight for a world that doesn't focus on a market before people. If you think we need a market economy so be it, but it needs to put people first. It needs to focus on cooperation. It needs to be free of these parasitic structures that make the completely unethical violation of our privacy something that is encouraged.

[@NICKELGHANDI]

@Alex Spray I think we actually do agree. I don't think they should get a pass either, but that giving more power to a governing body already in bed with the corporations isn't in consumers' best interest. Users don't have to use the services and are free to use something else. They just don't out of laziness, unawareness, ignorance, etc.

[@knowledge7381]

i delete tiktok because it's open my camera and microphone without my permission to show me ads about my face (it's become a spyware not an App ) the US Government should ban this app ASAP

[@anon_freedom_anonymous_leg42]

Wondering why they haven't already !

[@knowledge7381]

@@anon_freedom_anonymous_leg42 a lot of security experts talking about tiktok and how tiktok codes works . They find some malicious activities going inside the app and sending some private information to Chinese servers

[@anon_freedom_anonymous_leg42]

@@knowledge7381Both China and USA Gov not to be trusted with data collecting !

[@knowledge7381]

@@anon_freedom_anonymous_leg42 lol you shouldn't trust anyone with your data or give them access to your phone . Even yourself

[@andresiniesta9955]

@Nismo Exactly. It's amazing that the same people watching other videos on this channel still believe that US companies are better LOL.

[@holycow6935]

tictokers be like,"IG paid him"

[@charlubermensch2395]

I used it only two times and I've still pain thinking about it. The app is horrible. It makes one have huge brain fog and it's just painful.

[@franklinjoe52]

The youtube algorithm seems to be censoring content like this. Its kinda weird that the algorithm might be reading this and adjusting my feed accordingly

[@MCPEngu1]

I never use TikTok before and almost all ppl in my school use TikTok omg.

[@felpaprod4943]

I loved how the internet used to be when I was a kid, it was all about different forums and just surfing around, there wasn't like a monopoly of something... I miss that, so now I'm using mastodon and peertube, my family and friends aren't here, but that is the intention isn't it? Back in the day when the internet was all about nicknames, usernames, talking to random people, feeling secure because we were all kind of anonymous... Cyberspace was away from reality, you cold had your own cyber friends, scape, now your real life chase you even in the cyberspace, it sucks. I'm staying with my mastodon and stuff, if someone wants to know about me, just come here to see me folks, no more Facebook stalking.

[@Fattydeposit]

My sister's family - an entire family and more - all use Tik Tok. Two small kids, mum, dad, cousins, aunties, damn near everyone in their social circles. Unfortunately, I'm apparently a hysterical conspiracy theorist for pointing out why this isn't going to end well.

[@gabbo13]

A black sheep.

[@ldude3662]

All of china knows who they are...

[@sirrobot4489]

It's high time that schools taught best practices for protecting privacy on platforms

[@AchwaqKhalid]

Tiktok, Tinder, Snapchat.... I've never used any of these 🚫

[@blableu4519]

Yes! I'm so glad to see a new video! Hope your channel gets 1 million subs! PS: I'm not a bot

[@rhettmelton]

That's precisely what a bot would say 🤔

[@blableu4519]

@@rhettmelton true tho

[@serpentzachary1340]

Most social media are toxic and they're privacy invasive that's why I only use KZbin daily.

[@kekwnet]

Dont let any this more important stuff distract you from the fact that 'poop' when spelled upside down and inverted becomes 'boob'.

[@Sakiifyable]

Thank you for summing all the concerns up! Leaving this comment to keep the engagement high

[@onel6870]

I thought you would discuss about Twitter hack last week 🤔

[@w1xtr007]

That would be interesting as well

[@Elijah_Lopez]

You know that meme of all the people being slaves to their phones? That's happening right now...

[@OrwellHuxley10]

My teen is begging for this app. 🙄

[@OrwellHuxley10]

John Jordan have done that thank you

[@realthug1530]

BEWARE: this app reduces IQ

[@andresiniesta9955]

@@realthug1530 It actually feeds you more stuff that you like so apparently you like low IQ stuff lmao

[@masterbaits4108]

Don't let him touch it!!!

[@SimRacingVeteran]

Problem number 1: you had kid. That is all.

[@GeorgeGeorgeOnly]

Thank you so much, The Hated One. I think that I might actually love you for what you are doing. Your work is invaluable. I most probably would never have downloaded this or any app like this anyway, but it's no less important that we know about this kind of shit.

[@Nerd2Ninja]

One day, we'll build something worth using on the beaker browser lol, but hey who knows, maybe all these things can be unified into a single application stack.

[@felipejundi]

Is almost impossible to not give your information to these huge companies, however i never used tik tok i can't say i am not being watched by Instagram, Facebook, google etc

[@Bullminator]

If you are from Europe you can use a law against them to delete any information abauth you. I had my personal info leaked once by some retard employer that used facebook and used my info to represent as him. I contacted the company and treatened them with lawsuit and so on and they removed it.They also send me all paperwork of the info they had abauth me. (well fake me) After this i changed my phone number and email and told no1 abauth it.

[@goddosyourself7970]

@@Bullminator the majority of these people are from USA.We are lucky because we have different laws in Europe

[@lauriekimani]

I have notifications turned on but youtube didn't notify me..Why?

[@redlaserfox3988]

I just got a notification now

[@rish4883]

Luckily I got it on my recommendations

[@entcraft44]

I get most notifications on this channel, but nevertheless I regularly check for new videos just in case.

[@navb0tactual]

Lol I was getting notifications when I had them turned off... Now they're on and I get them sometimes... KZbin's hot garbage

[@darreideamos2309]

KZbin doesn't like this guy. He is sharing the unpleasing truth that everyone kinda knows but ignores

[@SuperMario9078]

How tf are people still using TikTok after it being exposed for all this stuff

[@test431]

I want to know how you collect information to make videos .. please tell me . Thanks for providing such great content.♥️♥️♥️

[@WolfDaniel]

research on the internet

[@pcgamingmasterrace1360]

For some odd reason this channel didn’t pop up anywhere in my recommended for almost a day after I had nothing at all left to watch... this is weird since I always watch your videos and a lot of videos like yours

[@salt6556]

Here before it gets blacklisted

[@user-xq7us9xl5r]

Thanks a lot for covering this important topic! Your videos are a regular valuable contribution to discussions in my social bubble!

Commented Go up in the algorithm my friend 😉

[@Firespite]

Great video. All the images of people with their heads down on their phones rather than interacting with each other is a disgusting reality.

[@LakeVermilionDreams]

FYI KZbin has been giving me notifications and not messing with my subscription status nor notification choice! Yay for calling them out! They might have backed away from their shitty tactics. Yes, I know I need to move to a better platform anyways...

[@alexturlais8558]

I love tiktok but I've stopped using it because of its practises and discrimination. Its a shame because it has so much potential as an app.

[@polvojack_remix]

Subtitle please...

[@Suaj9502]

Adding them right now (To Spanish)

[@advait7496]

i love how @The Hated One always slips in a Mr. Robot clip in every video

[@nauticashard6530]

it do be the very true though

[@GroovyVideo2]

I click turn notifications ON this channel - my Ipad Settings window opens - WTF never happened before - is YT letting me know they can get at my settings ?

[@royalkumar795]

I'm glad I never used and install Drug addiction app on my phone

[@natking1u1z99]

Tiktok is prejudice as fuck.

[@danilobarcelos7307]

ah, yes. Highly compacted cancer, ♪

[@BryanzHAn03]

165 dislikes are probably from the CCP 😂

[@Formhault]

TikTok skyrocketed in popularity basically over night. Weird, huh?

[@thieluar]

The issue with decentralization is on whose hard drive is your data stored? The place that has the hard drive with the data is the place that sets the rules.

[@polvojack_remix]

Hi

[@viktorspeca6159]

KZbin is nothing without you and your videos, thank you!

[@g0z3]

For the algorithm.

[@redlaserfox3988]

A comment for the same reason

[@HelgaVolya]

I did install this time wasting app only to delete it three days afterwards. It had certainly listened to our conversations bc it started to suggest tiktoks on topics similar to ones of our dialogues, even when the phone was off. This shirt is disturbing

[@grahamfinlayson-fife73]

Second!

[@brayansanma679]

Twitter does the same they censor some hashtags, also the rest of the social media smhh🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@VADemon]

2:24 Doesn't it (basically their *successful* tactic) just prove that despite all the bottom-hurting from the twitter mob for over the past 2+ years, people are still very selective and discriminatory at heart? Also commenting for algo

[@space1546]

I don't think anyone thinks that there is no innate built-in tendency for discrimination in people. This is something we've know since psychology as a field was invented. Us vs Them is one of the most important things in all of psychology. That doesn't mean we shouldn't actively fight against it and try to make ourselves better than that.

[@kukaoot6077]

because of its design it's also highly addictive

[@4n0nmann5]

The last 6 seconds were unnecessary. Probably that's why everyone just leave the video before it ends. So just as a Tip: Let the Video ends right after your (Thank You). P.s: Still waiting on my Win 10 for your Video on the Linux distros :D If you could just write here which are the one you would recommend as a daily OS, it would be nice

[@kindainteresting8653]

What KZbin client were you using at 0:39? It looks really nice and functional!

[@Befevered]

Right when it became available I installed it. I looked around the app. It seemed really boring so I closed it. Before I deleted it I left it running and saw just how much of my data was flying off of my phone to so many different servers I knew there was something evil going on. I then deleted the app and banned those server addresses in my firewall on my phone. Watching this has just doubled my list of reasons to dislike this app.

[@ArchverseWiki]

Solution: Hack Tiktok database and delete it

[@buleulek5153]

What about FB? Google?

[@amit404]

You really deserve more views.

[@La-Illaha-Illa-Allah]

If it became decentralized who will update the platform or add in new features/improvements? Just wondering!

[@mobleyMobley]

twitter going to crush tik tok

[@crazyrussianbot8012]

please make video about how to secure Windows 10 - not from outside, but from Microsoft spying on you. Which services to deactivate, which processes to block, can we block autoupdate in firewall indefinitely, so the PC doesn't even know there's updates available, etc... I currently use Comodo Firewall in "custom" mode, and this frikkin OS wants to phone home every damn thing I do. I currently block all of it.

[@JohnDoe-bx1bw]

Question is, is it actually worse than other platforms, yt and fb and others? Because if it's about the same level of bad, then our whole situation does not get any worse with one more platform. But is it is, then there's a strong point in avoiding the worse of them bads.

[@TheEbbemonster]

Let say we went open source with all video platforms, then where would the content be hosted? Who would maintain the protocols and ensure feature support? Also, what would the incentive of an existing platform be to let other platforms show "their" videos with other commercials? I think it is a very hard problem to solve, but we should of cause keep pushing forward :)

[@TheRealFobican]

From seeing how not only is this a privacy and security invasive product as it's from a country infamous for tacky quality with a lax view on plagiarism but also to be favoured by a specific generation of a young audience going along with using it just to feel relevant despite being bad, it just helps justifying my already negative view on how generally our civilization is becoming mentally diminished with time becoming more bought up by someone else with no thought for every new generation into the future since a while ago.

[@jacobbenjamin1671]

Would Byte from the creator of Vine be a suitable temporary replacement?

[@Oguzalp97]

it is really discouraging sometimes. Thank you for your video. This content is always good to remind oneself or others.

[@diceland512]

glad to see you're still kickin! thank you for what you do here

[@Makata-kun]

You have never disappointed us.

[@MikeLisanke]

Has Congress asked The Hated One to testify against American Social Media Censorship this coming week? Has the Hated One ask to testify, make a statement,, or even just be there to report back to US?

[@rashmivagal]

Glad it have banned in India!!!!

[@ywml888]

Tiktop is launched internationally after success in China for several years. I even don't think anyone including Bytedance expected it could be so popular. The real problem with Tik Top is it may affect US social media app.

[@ohnesinn3796]

Will you ever sell merch? I would buy it.

[@Bullminator]

He can use a 3th party tho. Like a friend who doesnt care abauth it.

[@Suaj9502]

@@Bullminator That would be contradictory, the point of these videos is to reach the maximum amount of people to share a big problem that nobody seems to care about.

[@arupp513]

Another great video. Thanks again for doing these.

[@yodoodler5951]

Do you have a guide on how to delete cookies?

[@nd925a]

Lbry is a distributed video platform. I think it's open source too

[@LoyalWackGamer]

*comment about something to boost publicity for this video*

[@sam_6480]

Finally youtube has a youtuber that telling the truth. I love you!

[@Traydex]

Yo The Hated One, I remember you saying in one of your videos that there was a custom firmware for a router which didn't have any government back doors and i wondering want it is🤔

[@thedudegrowsfood284]

Well done, Old Bean!

[@radekt.7843]

Finally... First video that yt actually sent me notification for

[@testhekid]

how do we know the stuff apps have access to so we go from the app to operating them on a web browser

[@ishaan7900]

Comment for the algorithm love ur videos

[@Rudra-mm1qf]

but Instagram is doing same with reels