Tim Krul and the Greatest Substitute Ever Made | The Long Walk On FIFA+

[@mohdfardan1370]

"ITS KRUL FOR NETHERLANDS,ITS CRUEL FOR COSTA RICA" One of the best commentaries in the World Cup

[@uncleruckus2487]

Yeah took him 7 years to come up with that comment

[@Victor-07-04]

@@uncleruckus2487 Wdym

[@donistreece]

@@Victor-07-04 I think he meant that it took 7 years for him to catch what he said

[@fiqofficial]

Who is the commentator bro?

[@andrewmccluskie2682]

@@fiqofficial I think it's Dave Woods who mainly commentates rugby league

[@babangidanzegwu1476]

An unforgettable night for real. One of the most intense games of WC 2014 for sure!!

[@Tikolico]

For real, I couldn't take my eyes off of the TV, truth be told, I couldn't believe we beat Italy and Uruguay, tied with England, beat Greece in penalties and then took the Netherlands to penalties, we were dreaming pretty big in that world cup, at least our team left with their heads held high knowing they truly gave it their all.

[@mi3_4kor]

I think Zaza substituted Italy vs Germany euro 2016 more unforgettable ..🤳

[@Victor-07-04]

@@Tikolico I think CR is kinda a badass country when it comes to football in the last years.

[@shawnzorf]

Louis van Gaal had plenty of moments of brilliance during that World Cup. That flexible 5-3-2 formation put Spain into a lot of trouble, and then he made a few switches to use Dirk Kuyt and Daryl Janmaat to mark Alexis Sánchez individually against Chile. Then in the Round of 16 against Mexico, he put Huntelaar especially for the penalties, and it came in handy for that infamous Robben dive. And then this happened.

[@dressedtokill192]

They should of been in that final. And they trashed brazil in the 3rd place game!

[@Afif.anNayem.asSalafi]

No team had even half of the depth in the squad as the dutch had in that WC

[@robertovalero6186]

Using Kuyt as a defender!!!!

[@gimmick2509]

@@dressedtokill192 anyone would have trashed Brazil after the game with Germany, to be fair

[@stefanklijnsmit9518]

@@Afif.anNayem.asSalafi The Dutch squad in 2014 was really average with 3 massive players

[@patricija4179]

"It's Krul for the Dutch it's cruel for Costa Rica" is one of the coldest on the spot improvisation lines ever!

[@TPH250290]

Not much improvising involved at all, British journalists had had that pun going for as long as Krul played in England. It wasn't like he was the first to realise that Krul sounds like cruel.

[@chris-y7d1i]

Crueler*

[@thedonsz9186]

I remember watching this in a local pub. What a great penalty shootout it was

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

Krul put on a show. I thought they were going to show more of it

[@Tikolico]

Even though Costa Rica lost and I am Costa Rican, this game is legendary, it was such a tight game, both teams fought to the end to get the win, I could not take my eyes off of the TV, this is the kind of game fans dream of. Hopefully we will see more of that in this 2022 world cup. Best of luck to the Netherlands team, or as we call them in Latin America "La Naranja Mecanica" which loosely translates to "The Orange Machine", they are one of the teams I always like to watch in the world cups.

[@de-smikkelbeer]

All the best from Holland, my friend. Hope you can celebrate with us!

[@JNitroxx]

The more accurate translation would be "The mechanical orange"

[@Avinashsinghgooner]

Narangi means orange in Hindi language

[@Cojoal]

@@JNitroxx no that would be a direct and nonsensical translation.

[@I_hu85ghjo]

7-0 🗿

as a Costa Rican we will remember Tim Krul forever negatively :(

[@Pete2244.]

As a Greek, i can ensure you that here it is the same with Navas

[@calvinmassanga2619]

@@Pete2244. as a dutchman i can ensure you that we think the same about sergio romero

[@GG-dp5ie]

@@calvinmassanga2619 as an argentinean, I can ensure you we feel the same about gotze I mean he isn't a keeper, but he still ruined everything for us

[@samilaliyev590]

@@CarliVala as a azerbaijanian i can't ensure you anything

[@spencergrout6320]

@@samilaliyev590 goated comment lol

[@Shendersonsports3003]

Louis Van Gaal didn’t deserve the criticism he got at Man U. The guy’s an ingenious manager and deserves success with the Netherlands

[@отпирайте]

that free kick call....... THE BALLS

[@Shendersonsports3003]

@@отпирайте honestly yeah! Absolutely no one saw that coming!

[@sk8shred]

It's so sad he has to go. Despite not having the best team during this world cup, he did what he could, we could've won from Argentina, definitely. I want to see him again during the EC 2024. He is the one who can pull it off with the netherlands. There's no other Dutch trainer.

[@mmartijn78]

My opinion he top 3 with Michels and Happel.

[@TomBalor]

Van Gaal vende que juega al fútbol y tira pelotazos

[@andrewserieys9890]

Love Tim Krul he served us geordies well

[@timothybruns2775]

That them let him go I didn't understand, he had the best save percentage that season you guys relegated.

[@timothybruns2775]

I think he was even in the team of the year that year, I know he was there one time when he was at Newcastle.

[@JL-gk4ct]

And Norwich as well. He’s been exceptional for us. Getting us through to the quarter finals in the fa cup against Spurs, on penalty’s as well.

[@SS-st5vf]

This moment is legendary. My family and I still talk about it sometimes. I'll remember it for the rest of my life.

[@misterpayah7723]

Really appreciated the explanation of the distraction tactics and the empiric data on it. Just 10 minutes in the limelight but that's all he needed to be immortalised.

[@pnclife4084]

Krul introduced himself to the world

[@ALEXLAD94]

Was already an EPL keeper

[@TheHesK9]

Not really lol he was already one of the best goalkeepers in the Premier league by then

[@pnclife4084]

But Doing Something for National team is more respected than doing in Club, and also for own country not any other nation

[@seanmatthewking]

@@TheHesK9 more people follow the world cup

[@jamieleepurdy1280]

As a Norwich fan love krul phenomenon phenomenal keeper one of the best to play for us

[@diablejambe3460]

Went back to college after the summer, played fifa with a friend and chose the netherlands. Put krul in goal cuz i was like "ah, just in case it goes to penalties". And it did and i pulled a krul myself by beasting that shootout lol.

[@Inzpyred]

You guys play out the pens in fifa? We just restart after extra-time and go golden goal in a new match

[@baka6249]

@@Inzpyred first time ive ever had a opinion like that where draws dont lead out to pens.

[@Inzpyred]

​@@baka6249 Really? Pens are so trash and a bad way to decide a winner, my group never plays them

[@baka6249]

@@Inzpyred ur wish, but pens this year are just better for 1v1s cuz u score accurate pens without the other person knowing where u hitting them, its very fun

[@Inzpyred]

@@baka6249 I've been playing since FIFA 2002, not gunna start doing pens 20+ years later 😂

[@mewtationnation3554]

This Dutch team was really something else. So much talent and an incredible run. Very much team to watch.

[@jonsnow3300]

Too bad our team plays lackluster football now

[@ishrendon6435]

@Jon Snow de jong overrated on fifa rating hes a 94!!! Lol higher than many past netherland legends !! Guy is overrated like most modern netherland olayers are rated higher then 2010 and 2014 . Its crazy and ridiculous. Overrated and declining

[@cymen1]

Talent? I'm Dutch but this was a great team but mediocre players, but right coach and chemistry for that time.

[@nymusnymusnymus85]

That last bit where Louis van Gaal had this fantastic smile after being remembered with his own quote of "calling penalties a lotery" cracks me up 🤣🤣

[@paradigm_sh1ft532]

The Netherlands v Argentian shootout was bizarre for the Dutch. Why Ron Vlaar was the first to kick was beyond me.

[@gfdx3214]

I was surprised that the last switch (mere minutes until the penalty shootouts) wasn't to get Cillessen out of there again for Krul. Cillissen ISNT a penalty stopper, already proved by the penalty against Spain, whilst Krul proved himself days before. Instead an attacker got switched out, which wasn't great at all

[@Mr_RiverDwarf]

It was apparently because some players who would usually take the penalties had a lot of stress to take the penalties in the semi final, so Louis van Gaal thought it wise to skip those players for other players who were less stressed out by it.

[@idrissb9742]

@@Mr_RiverDwarf almost correct. In reality there were multiple players who were supposed to take penalties that literally refused to take them (because of stress) so he had to pick others

[@Markox101]

Most likely because a lot of players wouldn't dare to take one + Vlaar played probably his best game ever.

[@shafqatishan437]

@@gfdx3214 yup, they also should've kept RVP for the shootout.

[@PurpleStreak]

One of my all time favourite world cup moments

[@EduardAndresk]

In Tim Krul we trust!

[@jdmholland2855]

Van Gaal wanted to win in the extra time to avoid penalties. That's why he brought in Huntelaar. He used up all his substitutions and couldn't bring in Krul for the penalties.

[@hamoudalnasser]

@@markusnashorn1145 I'm not sure why more teams do not do this. Honestly, some teams just don't seem to prepare for penalties at all.

[@superpantman]

For my old 11 a side team I was part of a penalty shootout. To be honest I wasn't one of the chosen 5 to take a penalty but it ended up going to sudden death. Their keeper was a lot better than ours, he was like early 40's but a real veteran, Allan McGregor type guy so I knew I needed to place the ball with power to beat him. He seemed to know exactly where everyone was going to put their shots so I decided to shoot with my weaker foot since I didn't exactly know which way I would go I figured he probably wouldn't either. It worked, sent him completely the wrong way but I hit the post. I hate taking penalties.

[@heartmint7364]

"it's Krul for Netherland, and Crueler for Costa Rica" Absolutely beautiful

[@ar_raf]

Best world cup I've seen so far (from 2002) each & every match was delightful

[@autury-5703]

this years world cup is far better

[@zzz2794]

@@autury-5703 by far not

[@djsejwal2]

@@autury-5703 no its not. Its just recency bias.

[@mcj2219]

@@autury-5703 Its corrupted as fock

[@lichtdoos]

To bad you missed 1998

[@manthenvashishth3769]

These techniques like trash talk and visual distraction really do work. As GK i once read about it and did same in my school team zonals. I remember i saved 3 penalties. You need to once get in the shooter's head and then watch knees and non striking foot position. Obviously it doesn't always work it's just an approach and not a cheat code cuz at higher levels where there are pros like Ronaldo, Kane they will most likely score.

[@nabilinho]

I was so happy for him when he saved the penalty I cried. What a moment!

[@fgulensaray]

no you didn't

[@gamewithgreg]

Best thing about this was that Vorm actually had a better penalty record than Krul, van Gaal was playing mind games with Costa Rica and it worked. Edit: I wrote this comment before watching the video fully, and this fact was mentioned at 2:58

[@uncleruckus2487]

Yet vorm lost against Argentina penaltis

[@MULM]

No against argentina it was Cillessen

[@shawnzorf]

As a Swansea fan I can tell that Vorm was excellent for us saving penalties, especially in his first season back in 2011-12. Fair credit to van Gaal by fielding him albeit in injury time against Brazil. Michel was a very underrated goalkeeper.

[@szewei85]

I say vorm and krul still not better than Cilissen hahahaha

[@LimburgGaming]

@@szewei85 Cillessen is miles ahead in normal time, but he can't save penalties for his life

[@ne1711]

I watch both of these matches in 2014. I was surprised at the decision of sub-ing a gk. Then as an argentinian fan in the semi I was not hopeful about Romero but I was hopeful because Tom wasn't there.

[@theotang681]

what a great interview. love the ending. well done fifa.

[@elliotsloan3983]

Krul is the most under appreciated goalkeeper ever. We didn't deserve him.

[@chrisgoblin4857]

As a Toon fan I was going mental watching this shootout. I was so happy for Krul.

[@ahha6304]

What can we say? Ameobi probably taught him a lot about penalties.

[@hectort6370]

I remember watching this game as a Mexico fan rooting for Costa Rica and when the change was made I immediately knew something was up

[@Juimimi]

As a Costa Rican, I still haven't forgave him

[@svenjansen2134]

As a dutchy it's understanding 😉. Holland has penalty traumas, too.

[@leonelzamora3908]

Agreed, I remember the next match when they used up all there subs and they were forced to use there original goalie for penalties against Argentina 🇦🇷.

[@realmrpoopybutthole7587]

You can't forgive a man for doing his job?

[@Juimimi]

@@realmrpoopybutthole7587 Fútbol-wise don't take it too seriously 😒

[@tiniturbo]

@@haashemmalik216 next match was the one against argentina. Once again ended up in penalties but during the match van Gaal used all his subs so he wasn't allowed to sub in krul again. Because of that we were forced to keep cillessen in goal who has actually never stopped a penalty in his career...

[@Stichting_NoFa-p]

If he only didn't refuse to participate in the WC... Imagine how it might have turned out with the penalties... (He refused because he didn't want to do a goalkeeper test/training with van Gaal)

[@AgusAgus-rl5qu]

Si hubiera estado en qatar 2022 no tengo dudas que hubieran ganado en los penales. Lamentablemente van gaal cometio el peor error en dejarlo afuera

[@kikeruiz539]

That Costa Rica team was stuff of dreams

[@MSeaNP]

Too bad these confrontation techniques won't fly today😂 Emi Martinez just changed the rules of the game, quite literally.

[@Idkwatimdoingimcooked]

😂

[@justagreekdude]

Well, as a Greek dude, watching Tim Krul save those penalties made me extremely happy. Costa Rica broke my heart when they beat Greece on penalties so it felt like justice to me when they went out on penalties too.

[@saariftravel5492]

Love from faridpur Bangladesh 👉🔔❤️🇧🇩🇧🇩

[@joaorocha3138]

At this time there was only 3 subs, and Van gaal just used 2 during to save Krull for last minute. 10 years have gone and still remember this game, this was the best world cup ever. For me this was the second most dramatic match of the tournament, Uruguay vs Gana still 1st

[@haajiryabre335]

one of the biggest mistakes in sport is not choosing Krul on the shootouts vs Argentina.

[@laia4862]

He said he already use all the subs

[@carloscoto8337]

@@laia4862 because in the extra time the coach wasted his last sub in another player instead of krul I was so mad for that because I wanted a Germany vs Netherlands in the final and Argentina vs Brazil for 3rd spot

[@Victor-07-04]

@@carloscoto8337 Wouldn’t that been nice

[@carloscoto8337]

@@Victor-07-04 We can only dream and imagine

[@KalunJiaLin]

@@carloscoto8337 the plan was always to sub in Krul, but RvP got injured, so he had to be subbed off. LvG had to use his last sub on an injured player instead of Krul

[@googly311]

This moment is definitely up there with Italy/France in 2006

[@Eric-mt2mk]

I think it's quite remarkable to note the double standard between how a lot of people approach what Krul did on that game compared to what they said about Dibu on the games vs the Netherlands and France. If a European guy does it, then that's perceived as being part of his preparation and his genius. If a South American guy does it, it's viewed in a totally different way.

[@francocavecchia8246]

That's football for you. If its done by any top european national team, it will be called "mind tactics", "psychological warfare" and what not. Any asian, south american, african guy does it? "Cheating", "unsportsmanlike", "despicable" and so on.

[@Prometheus4096]

It has to do with the bad attitude and character of many South American players. It is not only because they are South American. But also because they are poor kids from the slums with a bad youth, terrible upbringing, no education, and no world view or self-awareness.

[@footystar1GamingOfficial]

Tim Krul is Premier League royalty, no doubt about it. 36 years of age and still kicking like a boss.

[@TheLoneKage]

Ever since I was a kid I would always think of the same thing. You’re allowed 3 goalkeepers and most only ever use 1. Why not have specialist or options

[@brandono4248]

back then only 3 subs were allowed and teams wouldn’t wanna waste one on a gk

[@TheLoneKage]

@@brandono4248 and I get that. But it’s a shame more coaches didn’t and still don’t do this.

[@premplus4805]

As a former goalkeeper, hearing both Tim Krul and Van Gaal talking about not gambling and following your instinct is just perfection!

[@loyal7271]

With him they had won the penalty shootout vs argentinia

[@robin_gamr6479]

Twice 😭

[@ReyAriel]

No, but nice try tho.

[@andresquiros3996]

Cost Rica was one step away from reaching the semi-finals of a World Cup, think about that for a moment.

[@lexkanyima2195]

History making

[@izzuddinfaruqi1493]

Legendary moment!

[@MrMamooshka]

I love that moment in the Van Gaal documentary, where's he's on the golf course congratulating himself on his shot execution without any sense of self-awareness or irony. A one-of-a-kind oddball maverick.

[@kk0071990]

Great clip. Just watching it and listening to what they say get me really nervous like being in their positions.

[@frankejk]

I remember that match so well. That performance was on another level

[@pessational]

Bryan Ruiz was phenomenal during the wc2014

[@hermannus3894]

We still love him, FC Twente.

[@Victor-07-04]

I felt bad for him. Being trash talked before missing a penalty against th county where you played your football isn’t very nice.

[@bakuretsu9187]

I didn't watch much football growing up. So glad I watched this match live.

[@ridhowiranatakusumah6531]

tim krul was on fire that season

[@tutin4090]

I remember this moment and the whole build to him arriving at United. Knew as soon as I saw this, he had a master plan here

[@johnsmith-md2gt]

When it works he's a genius and when it doesn't he's a madman

[@dutchuncle2716]

Van Gaal has proven to be both.

[@Blugater]

Such an iconic moment. Still doesn't beat Ricardo taking his gloves off and defending a penalty that put Portugal trough England in 2004.

[@Shortfirstslip]

"I don't think I've ever seen a goalkeeper take up so much space" Gigi Donarumma: "Greetings."

[@danielkost8408]

This was the moment I trust that Louis van Gaal can win the WC. He knows players

[@ccramit]

Van Gaal looks like a Beavis and Butthead character when he smiles lol.

[@lotuseater7247]

3:51 why is this guy getting interviewed in his garage?😂

[@Jellybeantiger]

Wow,I remember this game and I was shouting why Krul wasn't used again and I'm Aussie.

[@arthurlecomte8950]

Still mad about it

[@shudafa]

Why's this legendary commentator not at the current 2022 world cup

[@ogustavomoura]

It's crazy that it's been 10 years since this game. I remember watching it live, and I'm only 20!

[@tiesjaja2938]

Lvg has just taken some 6.6 ft gk from sc Heerenveen. His name is Andries noppert. Its very likely that guy is to become the next penaltykiller for Netherlands, kind off a joker card like Krul was.

[@teacheraaron26]

And he has them in the quarters

[@marhherz]

The 1977 U20 Soviets did the same thing in the final game against Mexico, their second choice GK came off the bench before the end of regulation and stopped a couple of PKs to give the USSR the title.

[@rochesterjohnny7555]

the keeper with longer arms will be the best choice on penalties, seems like a scientific choice. I don't know why we don't see more of this

[@itsfungus]

Tf no subtitles for coach lol

[@XiaoYElllooUnicorn]

I've watched this so many times but everytime I watch this, I still get chills

[@disitufaruqhi6195]

Whats a night for Krul, Memorable save for Netherland

[@Ismailplayz52]

HEROICS tim Krul.

[@samuelking7492]

As someone who drew Costa Rica in the World Cup sweepstake, this broke me.

[@lamix34]

That Costa Rican was something special, and it took a special tactic to beat them. Well played, The Netherlands

[@ASDLR]

Van Gaal jonge. Wat een wissel was dit🙌

[@ChesterRGC]

This, the 2006 WC final and the Colombia Vs Argentina that made Emi Martínez famous. Are probably the most famous penalty shootouts ever

[@droozyyy]

Imagine if van Gaal had put Krul in for the penalty shootout against Argentina. That might’ve made the difference for them and we might’ve seen a Germany-Netherlands World Cup finals. While Germany would’ve probably still won, it’s crazy to think that the Dutch came so close in 2 world cups back to back

[@tirullow6313]

Honestly Van Persie would've probably would've scored those chances that Higuain missed.

[@wasneeplus]

Of course that already happened once before, in the '74 and '78 world cup finals. Incidentally, we lost those finals to Germany and Argentina respectively. History is a funny thing.

[@Prometheus4096]

Van Gaal cost us at least 1 world cup, maybe 2.

[@Soccerinnit]

And it came full circle in 2022 wc where emi Martinez did the exact same thing against Netherlands

[@RvdW22]

It was awesome. I have a fantastic cat named Jasper Cillessen - He’s oranje and he can’t stop a penalty, either.

[@JoeDiego]

Tim Krul is 34 and Cillesen is 33. What a bad path their careers have taken that they've lost their squad places in 2022 to Noppert, Bijlow and Pasveer (39!), who all play in the Eredivisie.

[@mtsg3761]

Krul was rejected from the team this year for not wanting to practice penalties in team training, which I find baffling

[@vietkong1]

Don’t think Cillesen was ever the same after that injury at Valencia

[@MrKAKARONALDOMESSI]

How I wish I could go back to 2014

[@coopaloopmex]

Great short video, thanks FIFA

[@timothybruns2775]

If you don't like Louis van Gaal as a person because he's opinionated, but he's one of the best managers of all time.

[@Subha95]

I saw this live and we were so baffled at this Sub But we were more baffled how well this Sub was. Experience do beat fitness under huge pressure

[@A-Better-Tomorrow]

Casper Cillessen debut was against Indonesia in FIFA matchday 2013 .

[@Victor-07-04]

It’s Jasper mister Gor

[@se78836]

Krul for the Dutch, cruel for Costa Rica! What a brilliant piece of writing

[@Bukasine]

“It was unheard of”, according to one of the commentators in the video. Well, in the 2004 CAF champions league, Enyimba FC of Aba, Nigeria, the coach (Okey Emordi) substituted his goalkeeper during a shoot out decider in both the semi final and final of the competition and he won the champions league that season.

[@DariusGheghesan]

african champions league vs a world cup quater-final is a bit of a difference

[@Bukasine]

@@DariusGheghesan they make it sound as if it was genius move and it’s a first time such a move has been made meanwhile I was about 9 years old when I saw that same tactical change in an African championship match.

[@JohnEpresent]

Nobody cares dude we're talking about the World Cup. Soccer is boring outside of that

[@QuickTuts]

@@JohnEpresent What is soccer?

[@lolookphor]

@@Bukasine noone knows about that

[@modest123]

Polish coach during euro 2016 had a chance to do the same sub in penalty shootout with portugal, he had a keeper who was much more confident in penalties on the bench and still had a sub to make, but didn't.

[@nitinkataria4576]

Awesome video, keep them coming, they bring back all the nostalgic moments from the 1990s

[@andredeketeleastutecomplex]

Not the 90's, not even close 😁

[@charlesapana9935]

Yeah that was brilliant sub

[@thomasfrost3877]

Deserves to be playing for them rn

[@NCDailyJapan]

Physiological trick The Netherlands prepared well for the Costa Rican Shooters 👍👍👍 So happy Netherlands won🇳🇱♥️♥️♥️

[@CHlEFFIN]

Forever etched his name in football folklore… legendary…

[@Tayyab.R]

I'm gunna be that guy; this dude comes off his line early for every pen he ever faces.

[@lawais1977]

The irony is watching the Dutchs complaining about Dibu Martinez doing trash talking at Qatar 2022 while elevating their own goalkeeper for doing just the same...

[@Stevenwachteven]

Nah bro the dutch dont talk about that, rather the ref and ghost red card and the lack of yellows. I love how Martines is an imposing goaly with fury

[@PhyrexJ]

The irony is nowhere to be found because that's not the thing they complain about you donut

[@lawais1977]

@@PhyrexJ let me correct you... World Champion Donut...

[@armanvranka7520]

Iconic World Cup moment

[@hayatiaziz9134]

Great journey

[@thebonanza2018]

Same guy who conceded 6 in an FA cup match

[@amitshukla8379]

Martin O'Neil did this at Leicester in the 1996 Div 1 play off final vs Crystal Palace. Except Leicester scored a winning goal at the end of extra time just after we subbed our keeper! The Crystal Palace manager at the time admitted years later that the substitution unnerved them.

[@TheHesK9]

Did the same thing for Norwich against spurs in the FA Cup too

[@geitmentaliteit]

One of the best days in my life

[@Legend-zo9bc]

I remember thinking this was so bad to Jasper, but Krul pulled it off, you just had to give to Van Gaal, it was brilliance and ballsy to make that decision.

[@alcoholic.student]

Netherlands finally got the taste of their own medicine against Dibu Martinez's Argentina 2022

[@Patricio007x]

True but all of a sudden they called it dirty tactics & cheating. How ironic.

[@ploppyjr2373]

@@Patricio007xwhat?

[@thewhambam]

Didn’t have to wait that long. The Dutch lost to Argentina on penalties in semi final of 2014 wc

[@Patricio007x]

@@ploppyjr2373 it’s a double razor. When Netherlands did it to Costa Rica, or when Australia did it to Peru they called it “mind games” & “creative tactics”. When Dibu Martínez did something similar, euro press call it cheating.