My ZD30 Engine Shuts Down While Driving - [ NO WARNING ]

[@maxv8442]

G'day Tim. I carry with me a Autophix Universal OBDII scanner (OM126 OBDII+EOBD/CAN Universal Code Reader). Cost me $150. Was up the highcountry a couple months ago and my hilux went into limpmode. Plugged the scanner in and was able to see the fault code and erase the code which enabled me to drive out and not end up on the back of a tow truck. Great live as always mate.

[@timbates4wdadventures]

G'day Max, I should really start carrying a scanner going forward. I must have a chat with Trevor from Autophix about them I can see where they would be very handy, like what happened to you in the high country. Thanks mate for your reply. Cheers Tim

[@davesparkz]

Good it was a simple little fix like that. I was worried that the grenade might have grenaded!

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Hahah Lol Nah mate, it's still going as strong as ever. Cheers Tim

[@christophersaul]

Glad the issue was solved. Nothing worse than not trusting your car will get you there each time you turn the key. As an ex Range Rover owner I know that feeling well!

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Thanks mate. It’s been great since changing the value. Cheers Tim.

[@glennhudson3420]

The "Headline" gave me a fright mate. Glad to hear it was something relatively simple. will give my mechanic a "heads up".

[@timbates4wdadventures]

G'day Glenn, Headline was exactly what had happened. Worth having a chat with your mechanic. Cheers Tim

[@stephenlane3078]

Happy you are back on the road mate

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Thanks mate. I’m happy it was an easy fix. Cheers Tim

[@joskonings1715]

G'day Tim. Had exactly the same issue my 2016 model while in the middle of nowhere. Scary shit when it first happened.

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Yeah, you're not wrong mate. Freaked me out when it happened the first time. All sorted now. Cheers Tim

[@chrismason4512]

Had a similar fueling issue with a CRD patrol which was the pressure relief valve on the fuel rail. Glad its all sorted and back on the road.

[@timbates4wdadventures]

G'day mate, Yeah, it sounds like its more common that i thought. Im glad its sorted out. Cheers Tim

[@rubyvictoria7055]

I had two fuel relief valves fail within 120,000 kms. Since replacing with aftermarket unit no problems. 2nd time I was overtaking as rail pressure increased. Ended up finding by checking bypass with clear tube. Very scary. Glad you're ok

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Gday mate Yeah righto, you’ve replaced two of those relief values and not that far apart. Hope your getting a good run now. So far so good with mine. Thanks for your feedback Cheers Tim

[@80ZX]

Glad all was sorted in the end.

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Thanks mate. Cheers Tim

[@PajEvo_Aus]

Always good when a scary issue like engine shutdown ends up being a simple fix!

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Thats for sure mate. I got lucky that it turned out to be a very easy fix. Cheers Tim

[@Jokkles]

Looked good driving through Yarragon this arvo - Great that it's going well for you!

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Haha lol Thanks mate. It’s back running like a gem mate. Cheers Tim

[@pcskip]

Hi Tim I recently had a similar problem with my 2004 GU Patrol. It just cut out while I was driving along and was difficult for the workshop to diagnose as they were unable to repeat the problem. It had also had recent issues of just cranking and not starting. But it would start up again with no issue when the ignition key was turned off and then on again. Anyway after leaving it with them for several days they were finally able to discover it was an ECU relay which was replaced and since then it has not missed a beat.

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Actually a mate of mine said it could be the relay to the ECU. Like you experienced. Thanks mate, I’m glad you got it sorted out. Cheers Tim

[@jimfifield1674]

Hello Tim. My name is Jim and I live in Newfoundland Canada. Great information you've shared. I guess that would possibly happen in any diesel. I enjoy your simplicity in your setup and the things you share. Keep it up. Thanks

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Gday Jim Thanks mate for dropping in from Canada. It could happen mate yo any diesel. It’s something that’s worth looking into. Thanks a lot for your feedback mate. Cheers Tim

[@stevesorensen4x4]

Fantastic info Tim. Glad it was a simple fix. Suction control valves play up to. Good fun when you are thousands of kilometres from home. 🤣🤣

[@timbates4wdadventures]

G'day Steve, I hope i never have that problem when im miles from anywhere. Thanks mate for your reply. Cheers Tim

[@hodzy4x4]

My 2009 CRD done the same thing to me Tim. This happened back in 2013. Back then the Bosch relief valve cost bugger all on eBay . I had a scangauge and it I was lucky be able to work out the issue within a day or 2.

[@timbates4wdadventures]

I’m seeing after so many replies that this problem is more common than I had thought. Good thing you got yours sorted out mate. Cheers Tim

[@robertjanevski6194]

Same thing here. Driving fine, turned off. Haven’t been able to start it since. Cranks perfectly and sounds like it wants to start but just keeps cranking. Spraying aero start into the intake seemed to help a bit but still no start

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Gday Robert No good mate. Hope you’ve the issue sorted out. Mine is sorted out and running well. Thanks for your feedback Cheers Tim

[@patroln48]

Thanks for sharing Tim, really good to know. When did you notice your psi boost suffering before this happened? Cheers Brendan

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Gday Brendan No worries at all mate. Glad you found this video helpful. The boost issue had been going on for months. Just didn’t think about the pressure relief value to be the issue. I’m just glad it’s all fixed. Cheers Tim

[@johncunningham4820]

On ANY Diesel at all , whether Common Rail or Fuel Rail , your Fuel Filter is one of the Most important Service items there is . Some Punters even fit a Centrifugal Pre-Filter as well .

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Absolutely mate. I’ll change mine a lot more regularly, that’s for sure. Cheers Tim.

[@louiskudlak2241]

Glad you got it sorted buddy, better late than never, could of been worse mate

[@chadsmall9447]

The contamination at the filter seems to be at fault not the valve it self , I would suggest a high quality diesel additive like from Cost effective maintenance or fuel doctor that would break down the gunk and prevent this and clean the injectors plus more regular filter changes

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Thanks mate. A few mates have also recommended using Fuel Doctor. Cheers Tim

[@abuoliver5750]

Thanks heaps for sharing mate, super helpful as always. Will keep in mind (and a spare on hand) for when my patrol decides to do the same , she's a year older than yours. Glad it was such a simple fix 👍👍

[@timbates4wdadventures]

No worries mate. Im glad as well it was a simple fix in the end. Carrying a spare might be a good idea going forward. Cheers Tim

[@ericayers6633]

Hi Tim The PRV went in my GU as well at 120,000kms. It was staving for fuel and hard to start. Luckily it was while it was parked in my garage. I had a new one installed, no problem since.

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Yeah it seems it’s a bit of a common problem mate after the live chat last night. Thanks mate for your reply Cheers Tim

[@JoeSweeneybigjoe]

I had the same issue on dec 31 with family in the car towing the van home. I was lucky enough to be in RACQ and got the car and van towed home. Couldn't find a mechanic who had seen the issue. I took to a diesel injection specialist and the sorted it out straight away.

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Gday Joe That’s lucky you were able to have your rig and van towed back home. Good thing you got the issue sorted out mate. Thanks for that. Cheers Tim

[@parabelllum8733]

I had exactly the same issue on my Mercedes Sprinter V6 van . Did exactly the same thing - would stop at speed on the freeway and then restart like nothing happened. It turned out to be a bad wiring loom shorting found by an auto elec . New loom problem fixed

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Ahh righto. Your vehicle had the same issue but a different problem causing it. Thanks for your reply Cheers Tim

[@darrinconnors8425]

FYI Got mine back today was the ecm relay after market 15 dollar part. 👍

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Thats great mate you got yours fixed. Mine has also been sorted out, it's running well. Thanks mate for your reply. Cheers Tim

[@garrygraham7901]

Onya, Tim! Glad the fix was an easy snd cheap one. The old Patrol is proving to be bullet-proof. May it keep on chooglin' for many more years. I recently sold my Fortuner for a good price and went back to the past with a 2003 105 Land cruiser, 1HZ with Berrima turbo, only 270k, straight and rust-free. No more common rails or DPFs to worry about, so I am hoping to make a long term tourer/tower/camper of it. If it keeps up with your Patrol in longevity, I will be a happy camper!

[@timbates4wdadventures]

G'day Garry, Yeah mate, im very happy how it turned out. Very easy fix thats for sure. 105 mate, you cant go wrong at all. Pretty simple to work on. Keep up the services mate it should serve you well on your adventures. Thanks mate for your reply. Cheers Tim

[@Justin.87]

I reakon i had the same issue with my 05 hilux. Seemed to happen after driving for a while then pulling up at lights. Happened exiting the Domain tunnel, but lucky it was early and very little traffic, yet it restarted fine straight away luckily. Took a while for the mechanic to diagnose

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Gday Justin Sounds very much like the same issue you had that I experienced. Luck mate you got out of the tunnel before it turned off. Thanks mate for that reply. Cheers Tim

[@islasdad5775]

Sorry I missed the stream, Fuel of thumb 😏 every 4th service do the fuel filter and run a good system flush in a full tank to just under 1/4. Petrol or Diesel good practice.

[@timbates4wdadventures]

That’s cool mate. I’ll be looking closely with keeping my fuel filter changes a lot more regular. Thanks for your feedback mate. Cheers Tim

[@Swwa89]

Always got my scan guage on me!!! Also running 21psi on my tune on crd, have just replaced all the vacuum lines and suprise suprise quite a few were perished. Might order one of those valves for if/when the time comes mate quite interesting!!!

[@allieb1621]

Glad you got it sorted out Tim - it is so frustrating when it is hard to work out the problem. I thought as I was listening to you talk that you might have had the same issue as me. My old pathfinder had the exact same issues as in your description about this time last year .... but would come good a number of times often as soon as the RACV came to check it out on the side of the road and nothing was found even after driving to the mechanic where the RACV unit was based. Some thoughts were maybe fuel pump and possibly the distributor but as it kept starting a lot of head shaking was pretty much the only result. After a lot of diagnostics (only 2 faults found and neither related to this issue) and some scary incidences (like once cutting out, but luckily reviving in time, in the middle of a busy roundabout) I stopped driving it and got it towed to my normal mechanic where I used to work over 40km away. A number of things were checked out and finally the dizzy was replaced and has not missed a beat since - I hope that statement doesn't jinx me! 😁

[@Fli_boi_1995]

My 2010 Nissan patrol Ute had issues like this shut down randomly as I was driving found out 2 months later it was an ecu issue replaced the ecu mechanic had the car for abit because it was an intermediate problem didn’t always happen was hard to explain to the mechanic so I told him keep the car for a month or to drive it around. Thank god it got fixed though utes have the non nats security system also had an issue with my fuel pressure relief value

[@JaidynLC]

Some portable scan tools can read the rail pressure on the fly. I used a Bluetooth one with the torque pro app on phone, little bit of a pain to use but can display alot of data. Again it's a safety the rail has, won't fire injectors. Same thing happens when it looses fuel prime. Carry a spare primer bulb, same symptoms when it drains back from air getting in.

[@jonleeson1030]

Mine is doing the same thing, and I thought it was this. Thanks for the info. Was yours also getting hard to start, and losing power?

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Gday mate. If yours is doing something similar, might be worth checking the fuel rail pressure valve. No, mine always started , without issues at all. Cheers Tim

[@darrinconnors8425]

I have a 2010 zd30 doing the same thing right now been down at auto electrician for a week and a half and it won’t do it for them either. Frustrating AF Will tell them to try ecu relay

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Gday mate Get that fuel rail sensor looked at. Mine hasn’t done it since replacing that fuel rail sensor. Heaps more power. Good luck mate. Hope you get it sorted out soon. Cheers Tim

[@ianweal3081]

Curious, did you replace with genuine and if so, can you post part no, thankyou. Plan on getting one and carrying in spares bag. I had an issue with a diesel Jackaroo, just began missing out of the blue after refueling, assumed crook fuel, no not the case. Never was resolved, spent a shit load of money replacing sensors etc, Holden run me round with diagnostics attached, oil pressure dropped each time it missed, but hah, the Jackaroo had oil pressure injection, caterpillar concept . Nothing replaced fixed it, new oil pressure pump etc, but it miss was more relevant as oil life deteriorated hence very common oil changes. Change oil, run fine then begin missing , weirdest thing. Eventually it suffered a cracked head between glow plug and injector, so I pulled the head off. The fuel rail ran from the front of the head to the rear at which point there was a bolt with a hollow in it, that was meant to have an extremely fine mesh in it. Wasn't there. Apparently this formed part of fuel rail pressure, anything over pressure returned thru this mechanism to fuel tank. I reassembled the motor without it as I couldn't see it being an issue. Once all reassembled I come across this chap whom says that would be my issue, apparently that tiny gauze filter played a big part in fuel rail pressure, well it never got fixed and to my knowledge the Jackaroo may still miss even today. I sold it once I purchased my GU ZD30 new in 2017. Sold Jackaroo 2018 as I kept using it whilst setting Patrol up. Infernal miss, lose power, cut in and continue to run for ages, then repeat. Weird problem, diesel with intermittent miss. Confused everyone. There's a yarn for yah.

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Pretty sure it was mate. I don't have the part number for it. My mechanic would have the part number mate. Cheers Tim

[@ianweal3081]

It's okay, I'm sure someone will post it now I've asked the question.

[@timbates4wdadventures]

@@ianweal3081 I hope so mate. Sorry i didnt have that number.

[@damienwilkie41]

Hi Tim Had a similar problem with my s3 zd . Took weeks to find the problem. Ended up being a $40 ecu relay

[@SteveBurns80]

Same issue I used to have with my MN Triton, when running a performance tune with increased rail pressure, this little pressure limiter used to give up regularly... Like many of us at the time, I simply removed it and bricked it so never happened again. 😂

[@joblogs1072]

Those fuel filters are a bit fiddley to change but probably is necessary around 20-25k intervals. Thanks for the heads up on the pressure relief valve another thing to consider on remote trips. Was it possible to just clean the valve out?

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Gday mate, Yeah they can be a pain to change on some engines. Worth changing on regular intervals. No worries mate, it’s something to think about. Not sure about cleaning mate. Thanks heaps for your reply. Cheers Tim

[@brentmoran3646]

Cant kill the Big Datsun Patrol.

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Keeps on keeping on mate. Lol. Cheers Tim

[@NoMatureContent]

Well... Guess I am getting a relief valve as a spare to carry...

[@timbates4wdadventures]

It probably wouldn’t hurt mate. Mine has been great since having that value changed. Cheers Tim

[@frankhoch5797]

How much did the new fuel pressure valve cost?

[@timbates4wdadventures]

$273.00 mate. Cheers Tim

[@drew5763]

Lots of DMax owners carry a spare diff pressure sensor for the same reason

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Yeah right mate. So, that’s a common issue with the DMax Thanks mate for your feedback Cheers Tim

[@GervsAdventures]

Just wondering, do you also use Flash Lube Diesel conditioner. I use this in my old Hilux every time I fill up, even tho it's a 2003 Hilux with an EGR noncommon rail. My pa always used it in his old Datsun 2.4L diesel with 600,000ks on it and never broke down besides the rubber in the fuel pump that was worn out, he told me to use it if I ever get a diesel vehicle.

[@nathan-wise]

Hey Tim, just wondering if you have ever thought of getting a scan gauge? I have one for mine and it great. Has a some worthwhile gagues, like rail pressure, engine load, boost, water temp, fuel flow etc. Also im curious on what you think about egr deletes with zd30?

[@timbates4wdadventures]

G'day Nathan, I haven't in the past thought about catting a san gauge mate. But, after this little drama, it's certainly on my mind to get one now. They do read out some very handy information, whether there's a problem or not. I haven't done an egr bloke in my ZD30. Plenty of people have done it. I wont get it done until it's maybe needed. Cheers Tim

[@shaunwhite4338]

There are actually multiple you tube videos on this problem with the grenade. Usually happens within 10000 to 50000 before the entire engine grenades. By history

[@adamhendricken8213]

My Colorado just started a similar thing but my car didn’t shut off. Had a all the dash lights come on and went into limp mode, turned the car off and back on back to normal

[@timbates4wdadventures]

G'day Adam, Have you had your problem sorted out yet? Cheers Tim

[@raymondhayne1250]

I have a 2000 Nissan patrol with the zd30 direct injection and I have the same boost problem you had but I can’t hold boost over 10psi so unfortunately this isn’t going to fix my problem. Any ideas on my issue might be caused by??

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Gday mate That’s no good mate the issue you’re having with turbo boost pressure loss. I’d start with all the turbo hoses and clamps. Make sure there’s no splits in hoses and lines. Make sure the hose clamps are tight. Checks there’s no leaks mate. Hope you can get it sorted out. Thanks for your feedback Cheers Tim

[@raymondhayne1250]

@@timbates4wdadventures just turned over 410,000klm and starting to get a few gremlins. Having head issues at the moment but hoping it’s just a gasket

[@timbates4wdadventures]

@@raymondhayne1250 around the same Ks mine has done. Hope the problems don’t continue for you mate.

[@raymondhayne1250]

@@timbates4wdadventures it’s mainly been the usual bolt ons that give out. Pulleys, alternator was the last thing but just replaced bearings in it

[@timbates4wdadventures]

@@raymondhayne1250 yeah righto. I’ve not had those issues at this stage.

[@christurner68]

Almost had to sell it and get a toyota👍

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Haha lol Not likely mate. Cheers Tim

[@nathanreid2974]

if the problem returns, you might not have an electrical problem, it might be the common rail again, as third party valves, IE the ones you scrue on might not always work for ever. you might have to order another common rail completely, not just the valve

[@Tisch85-ish]

You should really replace the whole rail. The rail seat has likely worn too and you might end up with the same thing happening again soon which would be a pain, just something to keep in mind

[@timbates4wdadventures]

G'day mate, That was talked about for sure. So i might need to look back at that being done at some stage. Thanks mate for your eply. Cheers Tim

[@rockbiterhd]

See what happens when you make a video of 400,000ks no worries

[@timbates4wdadventures]

Its not internal or a blown engine. Simple outside engine fix. Cheers Tim

[@ausguy4385]

Bit like chuggers broom 😉