Timber troubles after Black Summer bushfires | Living with Fire #8 | ABC Australia

[@bob_frazier]

The towns, the mill, the logging, the people and the fires all look like right here in Oregon USA. We lost a million acres to fire last year and have the same struggles as you. Stay strong, support one another with that awesome Ausie compassion.

[@popey2506]

And we’ll done to the ABC for shining a bit of a spot light on these issues faced out of the “ big cities “

[@rjl110919581]

thank you share this video on the area around NSW after the fire bush last summer

[@Moonstorms]

I remember 30 odd years ago when a bushfire that came from Canberra burnt down a pine forest just outside of Huskisson it was that hot from the burning pine forest I thought Huskisson was a goner for sure. They lost pretty much the entire plantation which had been growing for 40 years.

[@darcyvermont1636]

Native timber harvesting fuels bush fires. These fires were more intense because so much of the landscape has been logged in the past, and has grown back as a more dense single spices eucalypt forest. We definitely need to stop logging out native forests if we want to avoid big bush fires in the future!

[@ashleydavidson8715]

Great story Tim.

[@paulofurtado81]

Clean the ground around the houses and structures to a good safe distance, no bush, trees or anything that can burn, we have the same problem in Portugal almost every year.

[@bennichols561]

Yes. Live in small towns instead of spread out in the forest.

[@popey2506]

This unfortunately is the harsh truth of the timber industry at the moment, I have worked in this industry for over 20 years and right now is the hardest we have ever found it to be , we currently work in the Eden and Bombala areas and have been delivered the same blow . It would be great if the government had a real hard look at how these impacts on this industry has such a negative affect on the small towns that are within these areas and possibly lent a hand ..

[@lenblacksmith8559]

I come from near Tumba, know that pine plantation, so sad they were knocked so hard. But these bush people are tough and they come back.

[@stuartwoodcock9780]

It breaks my heart to see this happening. Im a retired academic and having taught Environmental Science I wish there was something I could do to help.

[@markfryer9880]

As Victoria learned after Ash Wednesday and then a generation later after Black Saturday, people will try to “hold it together” privately for as long as possible but in many ways papering over the problems and carrying on only makes trying to deal with the mental health issues even harder. These scars when combined with difficulties with work and housing all add up and things start to fall apart at six, twelve, eighteen and twenty four months and beyond. These fire affected areas will need State and Federal support across numerous departments for years to come. Make sure that the politicians don’t forget about them.

[@dicklang2756]

This is what happens when big timber companies rely on pine trees and softwood, they got rid of all the gums which survive bushfires and planted pines. The true cause of the fires comes back to lack of proper forest management by the state government. Lack of fuel reduction burns in the natural forests allowed the fires to get that hot and just annihilate the farmed timber.

[@Namdor2012]

Australia exported logs worth $614 million overseas, but no mention of that...

[@pjetenere1]

The city people have already forgotten that there was an enormous bushfire.

[@craigperry7376]

Well I live in a City & I haven’t forgotten. Don’t generalise, as you don’t know how others felt or feel, & how the fires affected even some City dwellers.

[@deanpd3402]

I live in the Blue Mountains. I can't say I have forgotten but it doesn't bother me. The forest is recovering just nicely what with the terrific rainfall we have had since the monsoonal rains hit on Feb 2020. When those rains started there were no fires happening by the afternoon of rainy day 1. The trouble is, it's all being set up for the next time there is a drought happening. Our wonderful conservationists still oppose forest management as much as they ever do. Cos, you know, smoke is so inconvenient in the neighborhood.

[@paulsouth4794]

The 10secound news( infotainment) cycle doesnt help . Like stones skipping ove deep water

[@Ricardo_Moto]

@@deanpd3402 " it's all being set up for the next time there is a drought happening" here we come, 2023/24

[@rastlach]

But in another news item, there is a massive wood shortage in the building industry?

[@matthew35673m]

A lot of timber is imported. There is a shortage in other parts of the world which flows on to affect our supply

[@Antechynus]

Chin up fella's... Mills all through NSW are struggling right now... 👍

[@bradpigott8883]

So, So sorry for the communities affected by the fires, breaks your heart to see such devastation. I did however find it a bit ironic that they showed native bush regenerating as opposed to the damn introduced pine trees dead and gone. Seriously, why aren't we planting hardwood plantations?

[@ChrisHarris2288]

Uniplan in Armidale has already changed to steel frames because they were struggling to get full packs of timber at a reasonable rate.

[@antipropo461]

Pine has been used for structural purposes in NZ for a very long time,but if I remember correctly only relatively recently here, that's a regulatory failure. Pretending Pine not strong enough for structural use when it was in earthquake prone NZ. There would be more plantation soft wood timber otherwise.

[@bennichols561]

Pine is only used because it grows fast and takes poison like a sponge. Insects like soft wood.

[@seze5931]

Many people dont even think of this until they have to pay 3x what it used to be.

[@davidjustsimplefun8484]

All I wanted was a slightly honest logger to help thin out my property. After being ripped off by 3 consecutive loggers I have given up and will not have another logger on my property.

[@drpk6514]

If they are producing so much timber, why there is such shortage of timber in the country?

[@Ricardo_Moto]

Initial overload of poor quality timber, then the shortage 6months or so later.

[@Oscarcat2212]

TWF. Timber prices are through the roof. The demand is at its all time high. They are still Winging! To much work. To much water used. Glass half empty.

[@thebige7302]

Its also through the roof because america is paying 400x more then us for european timber, we cant compete with this

[@Bernie5172]

thats whats wrong with growing pines. gums have bounced back just fine 12 months ago

[@bennichols561]

Forest management. Where are the fire breaks?

[@boar7153]

Nothing said about how this was a natural occurrence by lightning or managed by aboriginal people.when stopped by business or do gooders,you are going to have stuffups like this.

[@accaciagame1706]

How about switching to bamboo.

[@perkar49]

The answer is Hemp, always has been..and then we have #hempcrete

[@bennichols561]

Coal and iron. Should be using rail

[@GEMINDIGO]

What about the ecosystem!!?? That timber is not just a free for all money bonanza for humans - the soil and plants and animals need all those nutrients too!

[@deanpd3402]

Forest harvesting has been going on around the world for a long time. Remarkably life on earth remains.

[@sanctuarytimbers717]

Should be planting hardwood species..

[@lukemeyers1290]

Would be good to have hardwood timber supplies, but the trees take way longer to grow, are harder on equipment to process them therefore the cost is very high. But they can withstant a fire

[@dnomyarnostaw]

7:21 Yeah, they covered those

[@deanpd3402]

@@lukemeyers1290 The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is today.

[@dustingoldsworthy7303]

Glad they made this Scomo was in Hawaii so he didn't see much.

[@deanpd3402]

On the other hand, the greenies stayed here to watch their handiwork. Jill Redwood took great joy in the destruction of the Eden mill. People like her were key players in preventing forest management. Like I always say, conservationists are some of the most dangerous people in this country with their well-meaning but naive politics of saving the ecology. All they managed to do was create a tinderbox situation. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Greens have got to pay a lot more attention to Aboriginal fire management.

[@joehmingsanga4735]

God will heal Australia

[@rhys5567]

Maybe dont change the tax policy under us.

[@emilstalzer8553]

Send as much as you can to U.S are lumber prices have doubled since sleepy Joe has become president.

[@Tangaroa775]

Well trump put tariffs on imports from Australia, why would we be so stupid and do that?...we’ll keep sending it to China😂

[@stuartharrison9944]

...and if the 'Great Orange Clown' got back in you would be totally screwed.

[@deanpd3402]

@@stuartharrison9944 Sleepy Joe has lots of sleepy followers who he depends upon to keep their eyes wide shut.

[@paulsouth4794]

Your statement defies logic .