BOWTECH vs MATHEWS "the showdown"

[@grappler84]

I bet you could do this test over and over and the winner would flip flop. 2 great bows. But ultimately it comes down the each shot, and the user. Loving the content Tim!!

[@waynestevenson9613]

First of all each bow shot is suspect and subjective. Me, I personally wouldn’t shoot a Mathew’s bow because of their lousy grips and overpricing. And that Mathew’s is just plain ugly! And when it comes to tune ability there is nothing on the market to compare to BowTech, bar none! Gotta say, I like it since you’ve moved on from that other guys channel, he’s painful to watch.

[@Brad901]

Thumbs up not for the Mathews part but the last sentence

[@zachlewis9451]

Elites tuning method is just as easy

[@hellcatoutdoors]

This was a blast to watch, visually fun to watch and as always the audio is flawless. Great job brother

[@TimConnor13]

thank you my dude!

[@YTrab1970]

@@TimConnor13 what Hellcat Outdoors said

[@dewaynehollingsworth6386]

Take away some point from the bow tech...its loud but you didn't mention that..on the video it's super loud.

[@tylerharty5537]

You should throw some orange cables on the mathews and leave the green string

[@calebbradbury]

I really enjoy your videos they flow well, keep your attention and don’t drag on too long! Thank you for editing like that. Two questions, what bow case was that the tan case seemed like a soft case but really durable. Secondly, which camera shoulder clip are you running. I use the Peak Designs clip and was wondering which one you run! Thanks Tim!

[@ObsessionArchery]

Visually it looks like the bowtech draw length is longer than the mathews. Have you measured the actual lengths at full draw?

[@TimConnor13]

No I haven’t. It feels like Bowtech might be a smidge shorter tho

[@andybeach3852]

Nice to see you without that guy that looks like an elf.

[@alanjackson49]

Don't be disrespecting Sasquatch! Flickin him in the nose? C'mon man.

[@pbbananas]

I’m curious on this “budget” arrow build.. Always interested in the points diminishing returns.

[@finlayc121]

Love the camera work, keep it up! 😊

[@TimConnor13]

Thank you 🙏🙏

[@WoooVegas]

Great video but I’d like to hear more about what you like and what you don’t like on each bow like comparing the two and that being said… which one do you like to shoot more like which one is more enjoyable to shoot? I know they’re probably different and good in their own way but which one do you think you gravitate to more? Also, I know that the bowtech is new so it’s not totally fair. Thanks for all your work on these videos

[@TimConnor13]

I'm considering a more detailed review down the road..

[@davidcook5314]

You have to consider how much longer you’ve been shooting the Mathews and you just got the Bowtech, the lady had it figured out from the start🤣🏹 #refusetofollow

[@omm7763]

I think you should redo the video and use the more modern lift and bowteck with the same axle, axle and compare the prices with all the gear. I know getting a good bow, sometimes requires getting some good accessories. My bow all tipped out was over 3000 USD. I tested many many many bows, including carbon fiber. The nicest all around, I found was the Matthews lift 29.

[@ashleysmith4191]

You would greatly benefit from going through Dudley’s school of nock. You’re a dang good shot, your timing is off on your weak shots, give Dudley’s little program a try.

[@leviglass871]

Dudley is a joke 🤣

[@ashleysmith4191]

@@leviglass871 if you haven’t actually witnessed Dudley’s ability to shoot, let alone his coaching ability, you’re the joke. Dude is quite literally an Olympic level coach and a seriously amazing shot. Guys like Levi Morgan, Dave cousins and Jesse Broadwater may be better shooters, but they’re not putting out free knowledge for people to bring their game up.

[@PhotoBob]

@@leviglass871 Dudley is a joke? Now that’s a first. 3x National Champion John Dudley? One of the most respected Archery Coaches on the planet John Dudley? The guy that makes a really great living from helping archers all over the country John Dudley. I mean you don’t have to like the guy but to say he’s a joke is well just stupid

[@zacharymitchell7774]

Are those the rip sport?

[@josephdipietro8367]

Tim, keep putting out awesome content. 100k will be there sooner than you know.

[@lorihamrick9349]

Love to watch videos about shooting. My husband has a Bowtech and I have a Mathews. We both love our bows so found this very interesting. Good job Tim.

[@pattowle4434]

Great video Tim. Love the tip…”hold the the camera up”! Cause nobody wants to see what’s up your nose! BTW…. I would more than gladly accept the losing bow from this shoot-off. I’ll PM my address later.

[@scottschmeling7622]

I'm enjoying the videos!!! Nice day of shooting Tim!

[@brandonrodarte3658]

That’s a cool idea! I’m gunna need another bow to compete with my Hoyt lol good content man!

[@toddbolton936]

Don't think that showed anything except that both bows shoot EXTREMELY well and it all depended on SHOOTER ERROR not bow error!!

[@worldwide1873]

Bow tech makes a lot of noise when you draw. Just noticed. Maybe it’s normal with all bows. Mathew’s doesn’t seem to make it. I’m new to the sport though so idk what I’m really seeing or looking for lol. Fun video to watch!

[@The-Jokes-on-You]

Love that custom green/orange look on your Mathews 🤘👍, brings me back to my youth in the early 90's when neon colors were everywhere splattered like that on almost everything. I come from more of a hunting bow back ground (never shot or used a target competition bow)but I recently checked out the bowtech at my local shop & got to say it felt AMAZING in hand! It has me seriously considering getting creative with my finances to swing the $1,500 for one.

[@minncrew]

I know MFJJ doesn’t carry Athens but you should definitely give it a try!

[@stick__shooter]

I love my Bowtechs. Smooth, fast, and love the Clutch style grip. That said, I actually really dig your DIY paintjob on the Mathews! If you haven't tried one yet, you really should get ahold of Tim Gillingham and order one of his grips for the Bowtech. I suggest the 6 degree narrow. They are superb!

[@jasonbrady7861]

On the Gen 2 you can adjust the grip angle to whatever you want it to be!.. 👍👍

[@stick__shooter]

@@jasonbrady7861 Gillingham makes one to replace that also. His has a bit of texture to it and feels much better in hand.

[@jons7e]

What action camera do you use? Do you like it, and would you change it to anything else if you could?

[@TimConnor13]

Dji osmo action .. I would of already changed if i didn’t like it

[@jons7e]

@@TimConnor13 I got a Akaso Brave 7 LE because it was inexpensive and it seems OK but you get what you pay for. GoPro is really expensive

[@williamhart8087]

Another great video with some really good content. Your shooting is definitely money and I'm hoping to see something from a TAC event. Watching you shoot and Work on your form has really inspired me to work on my form too. Hadn't been this interesting shooting in a long time, thanks.

[@TimConnor13]

Thank you my dude!

[@christopheracosta9823]

I know you guys love those TKO arrows but I personally just upgraded from Goldtip Hunter XTs to the Goldtip Black Label Quantum's an Man what a Difference, it's a .204 kinda like the TKOs but I think there cheaper than the TKOs, maybe an arrow u could try an like 👍

[@h-minus2212]

I second the opinion regarding the quality of your videos - very cinematic. Since 2010, I have owned two bows: a Mathews Drenalin LD and a Bowtech Revolt X. I shoot each bow nearly the same, although I have more 50 yard, 5-arrow groups that are all touching with the Bowtech than the Mathews. But the Mathews is sooo much more quiet - it may be the better hunting bow due only to that factor. Thank you for the great videos and the informal test.

[@paulwest4424]

“Sientistic” test 😂 I like it!

[@sammyhughes6769]

Tim it's been a pleasure watching your progression from beginner to what I would now call you( seasoned bow hunter). Not sure if I'm the only one that noticed but your way more accurate by yourself. So that tells me your letting your nerves get the best of you when shooting with others. Just grip it ( not to tight) and rip it young man. Have fun out there. Enjoying the new channel and the banter back and forth between you and MFJJ is hilarious. Glad to see some friendships you made while with Dan haven't diminished. Keep it up.

[@TimConnor13]

nerves are a thing when you're shooting on camera.. it's good practice

[@stephengatley8144]

​@Tim Connor Hi Tim love the videos. I have been using a Dji gimbal with my phone lately to self film just thinking it might make your life easier as you can draw a box around yourself & it will track you. I have been thinking of top down drone (B roll) clips too, push the limits mate ABT!...

[@DMD1021]

I like the Elk Shape, and I like your channel. I find myself watching your channel more

[@chrisfavorin1107]

Tim, Great video and Happy for you going out on your own. I know this channel will grow! I have found that the less time I have in the holding position the more accurate I am. I have shoulder issues and have had a mass removed from my right bicep/triceps, it has forced me to become quicker in my shot, subsequently it caused me to get on target faster and become a lot more accurate. I use both a index finger and thumb release, worked on my trigger slap and got that under control. Overall, speed on target made me a better more accurate shot. I know you like that style of release but I noticed your moving a lot while waiting on the release to release. Maybe work on the speed in which you release. ( wow said RELEASE a lot in that last sentence!)

[@the_sharp_carpenter]

Good shooting all round, you definitely look stable behind the Bowtech

[@RonFleener]

My first bow as a man is a Bowtech Reign 7 and I have 0 complaints.

[@johnnybeard5044]

Great video, since you shot both bows, which string you like the best, gas or a3.

[@TimConnor13]

More to come on that!

[@jimr7154]

I’m a Mathew’s fan even though I love all the features on the Bowtech I’ve never shot one but nice shooting anyway I feel either way you can’t go wrong 👍

[@teagonnienke8503]

With all the technology in bows the new ones will all be around the the same accuracy wise. Now it’s more about preference on how they shoot and the feeling of each bow.

[@joevandivner9704]

No way!!!! 7 year old dog is only comparable to 43 in people years.every year after the first year is like 7 people years so he is in prime time!

[@garybaldwin4711]

tim! where did you get that hip quiver?!?!?! looks like exactly what im looking for!

[@TimConnor13]

Kifaru hip quiver. It’s great

[@garybaldwin4711]

@@TimConnor13 amazing thanks tim!!

[@alviemiller4977]

Thanks Tim great video I don't know about that other bow it must have had a good shooter Bowtech all the way the gen 2 is an awesome bow it is the same one I have wish we lived closer so we could shoot so if you ever get down in southern Oregon hit me up lets go shoot

[@wcwcgarner2717]

Awesome video tim. I just ordered gas strings in flo orange wt gun metal servings for my granite V3X 29. They will be in this week.😊 happy birthday Louie

[@TimConnor13]

Nice dude !

[@christsideurbanstreetminis2183]

I did not notice it until you were shooting. The sasquatch but is the click I hear you turning the safety off on your release?

[@EBair]

Tim was holding elk shapes videos together, im starting to see it now

[@connor_bohnts]

I am starting out a youtube thanks to your channel and elk shapes channel. I am loving the content you are producing and I hope we keep getting these stellar videos. I think it would be so helpful to me and other who are starting a channel to see what editing software you are using and maybe a run down on how to use it. Thanks Tim. 100k here WE come!!

[@TimConnor13]

Davinci resolve studio and there’s some old vids on this channel that could help

[@connor_bohnts]

@@TimConnor13 Thanks i’ll give it a shot

[@danwattsmessick]

Hallway shot on the elk is my favorite out there, by far. Pretty sure I hung out there for a half hour or so before you guys caught up to me on Sunday. Another killer vid, brother!

[@TimConnor13]

Thanks my G!

[@timbow50]

Obvious the Bowtech holds better for you. Good video again Mr. The lady seems familiar. Who is she?

[@TimConnor13]

Ashbanash, she's a local here hoping to get her on the channel soon

[@royhoglund1322]

Good shooting Tim!

[@derricknalley3053]

Awesome Video As Always!!

[@jasonparks389]

I kno you said the HBC was your go to for a while I’ve seen you shoot the hinge 2 as well I’m actually wanting to try a hinge out of the 2 I mentioned which would be best for a newbie

[@TimConnor13]

It's hard to say.. both are fine products.. hbc flex is my jam though

[@bradheni2216]

Great comparison and info. I am considering setting up a personal archery shop to work on my Mathews since the nearest bow shop is an hour away. Bowtech seem very user friendly and easy to work on. Also, one question that may seem off the wall. What shoes are you wearing in the Fireside Chat series? I cannot find them for sale.

[@TimConnor13]

www.merrell.com/US/en/nova-3/56428M.html?dwvar_56428M_color=J067601#cgid=run&prefn1=isOnSale&prefv1=false&start=1

[@OpeningDayOutdoors977]

Scientistic is my new favorite word.

[@ottobond007]

It should of been the SS 34, that's more in the Phase 4 lane.

[@motocross6539]

Great video

[@djellifson214]

Awesome video timmy! I’ve been loving the chill archery content! One of my favorite channels to watch by far. Video quality and work is incredible

[@TimConnor13]

Thanks my dude !

[@lifewithabe312]

Didn’t watch the video but just knows it’s Mathew’s

[@gordyduggan403]

I notice when you shoot the bow tech seems more steady for you ,, I’m looking at bow movement of the bow ,, bow tech just looks steadier in your hands

[@alviemiller4977]

i hAve the same bow and its awesome love it

[@scottsellars6708]

What’s the stabilizer setup you have on the Bowtech. I need a set like that for my Bowtech.

[@TimConnor13]

it's the podium archer stabilizers with the AAE gripper.. 15 on the front 10 on the back

[@jeffstevens1826]

HBC flex standard click or fast click sear which you are using?

[@TimConnor13]

I am actually not sure.. Good question, I just bought it out of MFJJ’s shop and I’ve never changed the sear

[@jeffstevens1826]

@@TimConnor13 standard then.

[@keagenmosley6212]

Are the arrows to the bowtech the same size as the Matthews

[@BowMadOutdoors]

Happy Birthday Lew! Great content!

[@TimConnor13]

I’ll pass along ✊😀

[@NettieBeard]

A real stab in the heart for us Mathews fans...

[@Njjb122]

Or until the bearings on the mathews break

[@jrhunt414]

Used to shoot at a range every day that used those black compressed “carpet”? targets. The friction on carbon arrows actually will destroy them over time. Had a thin wall 23 carbon (vapor 23 speed) actually break during a shot and thankfully it made it off the bow and not into my bow hand. Ever since I refused to shoot at any of those targets. The range got rid of them because they were destroying arrows over time. Honestly haven’t seen one of those targets in like 15 years.

[@chengsterboi07]

Hi Tim, how you liking the A3 bowstrings with the bloodline fibers?

[@TimConnor13]

So far really good!

[@PPHalpert]

“¡SCieNtiStiC!” 🤙🏼🤙🏽🤙🏾🤙🏿

[@ErikMorgan-ue2ud]

Keep Shooting! Still Have A Long Way To Go Both Bows Are Actually GREAT SHOOTING Bows! Personal Preference At The End Of The Day! Keep Up The Great Work!

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

I have the bowtech reckoning gen 2 ordered. I can't wait to finally have it in my hands. My first bow :)

[@TimConnor13]

awesome my dude!

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

@@TimConnor13 is there any accessories, setup or general tips you can give me for that bow in particular? I'm not hunting, just wanna shoot for the sport and the Meditative aspect to it. That range in this video looks like a dream. Exactly what I want to do Love your videos!

[@jeffadams6866]

Bowtech is definitely louder

[@Mechanics.Life80]

Dude as always this was awesome!! hey man you think you could do a video on making videos. Nothing really deep just some tips on making scenes and just overall tips for someone that may be interested in making videos. PLEASE keep doing what you're doing!!!

[@SomeGuyFromOK]

This guy is like a freakin scientist when it comes to bows. I’m not sure what his name is but I love it when he’s in your videos. Suggestion though: I’m new to archery and am shooting a Blackout bow right now. This test would be better fitted for someone else who has never shot either bow and doesn’t have confirmation bias. I know both are great bows and I’m looking into upgrading to a Bowtech, but I plan on shooting a PSE, Elite, Mathews, Hoyt, and Bowtech to see which actually feels better to me.

[@timfinlayson2061]

You could shoot each bow back to back and score different. You can't compare the two, you just can't.

[@TimConnor13]

I can do whatever I want on my channel. You should do the same on yours. It’s pretty neat.

[@timfinlayson2061]

@@TimConnor13 I agree, just saying each shot is different so very hard to compare. Great job though, love watching your content.

[@Archer_927]

Really enjoyed your videos I kinda just binged watched all of them keep it up!! When’s the merch drop ?

[@brucescott9814]

I would say Bowtech should, but you've been shooting a Mathews for the last year plus. It's going to be really close... Ok I'm saying Mathews because you've been shooting it longer..

[@steventopper4625]

Tim here is an idea that may put a huge smile on your face. Take the side plates off the Mathews and put the Beereal Ultraview grip 2.0 on and you won’t ever say that the grip is not as repeatable. Had the side plates on for a year and switched to the 2.0 a month ago and it was a definite game changer

[@the4thamigo]

Ur doing well Tim. I'm enjoying this content. Shame abt the split from elk shape but u seem to be doing well.

[@bigfan6247]

Its not a scientistic test lol

[@bgott68]

Great job 17:19

[@Czern24]

Need to know how your finding the arrow shelf/ grip dose your hand slip over the arrow shelf? Or do you find your finder slips over after the shot?

[@mrt3206]

I think a Tie makes sense tho because it proves as long as you practice practice practice both bows can be just as accurate…proves it’s not the bow, it’s the person shooting it

[@tjdreyer]

Fun video, love the creative shots. Seemed like you held for a super song time on some of the shots, noticed that on the last couple videos, has that always been the case?

[@foamslayer]

What bow case was that?

[@l.i.archer5379]

Damn, Tim, the way you're shooting, you can definitely take down Dan!

[@obionewheelkenobi689]

Great content...I watch all your videos. Thanks for sharing.

[@CalebSmith87]

Remote would've smoked both of em lol. Great video man. Keep up the good work.

[@markst.martinii9635]

Tim what is the release strap you have? Looking to get one for my thumb button

[@mikebarriga]

Nice shootin dude. I have been fighting wrist torque on my phase 4. I need to get it figured out.

[@Psalms73.25]

Love your vibe man keep it up and keep doing the videos with Josh ✌️

[@jakerowton379]

“SCIENTISTIC”

[@MarkBrooker-f1p]

Tim, love your channel and content! 100K here we come!

[@ittybitbobo7657]

Just wondering why someone would spend so much money on a bow and paint it up so ugly.

[@jck395]

Great video. Would love to see the comparison on a Vegas round.

[@edgregor9578]

Bowtech !

[@vincenta.1677]

Fts. Hoyt.

[@joshvang8372]

Bowtech!

[@Ashbanash01]

🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@DavidBowCrazyBabyak86]

i think you should have done a 3rd final shot to be fair but good shootin bud

[@Ducatistto]

That bow bag looks interesting what kind of case is that?

[@trckn_151]

Great video, that last shot though... Would have rather seen a best 2 out of 3 or best 3 shot group for your tie breaker instead of one final shot. Specially seeing how you pulled a shot with each and shot center with each. Would have also liked to hear a general comparison while shooting side by side. Like after shooting x, y has the better draw cycle, and after shooting y, x feels more stable in the hand... That sort of thing.

[@TimConnor13]

I may do a long term review down the road

[@88northoutdoors29]

Thanks for another awesome video Tim.