Time Team S08-E12 Winchester, Hampshire

[@laurachapple6795]

This is one of my favourite episodes. The opera music during the storm. The trench closed on account of open doorway to hell. Phil contemplating a skull like he's about to go full Alas Poor Yorick. A classic.

[@janielaurel]

It never ceases to impress me how moved Phil is when he's considering the history of whose bones he's holding in his hands. It takes him beyond is archeology mind into his spiritual mind and I feel every emotion he's expessing. Wow.

[@jimstrong9976]

Carmina Burana, Cantiones Profones by Carl Orff

[@roswithaprochazka912]

Actually, the storm music is the "Dies Irae", the third movement from Mozart's "Requiem". Dies Irae means Day of Wrath, quite fitting for this scene.

[@janielaurel]

The Requiem while they're lifting bones in the middle of a huge storm is such a wonderful touch. A reverential dig, with Nature lending a hand. Great editing here. :)

[@kathycarlson7947]

I've been avoiding watching this episode--leprosy, etc. I was wrong. This was so good--both Phil and Tony show us how to reverence the dead---and I'm in awe. Thank you

[@benediktmorak4409]

that is the difference between professionals and -black diggers -. Black in this case has nothing to do with skin color. But these are scumbags who dog everywhere were they think something worthwhile, valuable and sellable could be found .what they don't need or want, they just discard.or don't even bother to close their dig. they are looking for anything but special WW2 memorabilia which one can find than on ebay or Avito...or even cheaper, at the local flea market... though it will be i na town where no one knows them...

[@janetsanders5356]

Very clever in finding ways to do difficult things or having back-up plans like when they have some token object, pertinent to the site, made as closely as possible to how it would have been made in the period, in case they don't find as much as they hope.

[@victoriaeads6126]

In case you didn't already love Phil, his reverence towards the human remains near the end might clinch it.

[@HannibalFan52]

Especially when he lifts the skull at 38:23

[@greghelms4458]

The pure reverence for all archaeology. Jumping on people who got in his trench was a scream.

[@knicklas48]

Thanks very much for uploading these. Would never have known about this series without youtube

[@GrahamCLester]

Victor was such a versatile artist!

[@real_melody_barnes]

May he now Rest In Peace....having lived a long life....August 19, 1935 to February 10, 2021...we have lost a great artist.

[@Caeser194]

Great channel.I never would have found this series.I binge watch this when i have time.Thanks for the downloads

[@patwithers1448]

Love from the old lady in Texas God bless you always and forever

[@christinecole330]

Great episode, was Phil going to cry ? Tony you're an amazing host. Everyone on the team is outstanding.

[@dancingwiththedarkness3352]

The depth of the well fascinated me, a nearby open pit quarry has a similar feature. It's now part of a state park, with a depth of about 30 meters and cliffs rising 3 to 27 meters most of the way around. At one point 15 meters above the surface of the water, theres a hole with cold air coming from it. I dropped several stones into the hole, timed nearly 6 seconds on the stopwatch before they hit water. Apparently the quarry just missed opening into a very deep and water filled natural cavern right beside it. The interesting thing is none of the rocks hit anything on the way down to the underground surface of the pool or river far below. Not uncommon, this part of the state is mostly limestone and full of cave systems and underground lakes and rivers. Fortunately, its far enough from the trail to be hard to find if you don't know where it is and it now has a small bolder of about 9 kilos firmly wedged in the opening. Mainly to keep children and the foolish from trying to get into it. Possibly, sometime in the future, I'll have a opportunity to lower a night vision camera into the void and see whats down there. It would be just as interesting if they could have put a camera down that extraordinary deep well!

[@slhughes1267]

Leprosy is a particular form of tb that came back with the early crusaders. Lepers were completely,legally and involuntarily ostracized by others. Yes, all family members went with the afflicted person to live in a leper "village" because it was thought to be contagious--which is correct. Young children were exposed but didn't show any affects because this form of tb has to have the physiological pH change of puberty to erupt. Btw, being sentenced to live in a leper village was also a known criminal punishment. Also, graveyards were routinely redug, with the removal and disturbance of prior burials for centuries. Particularly when there was a major increase in deaths. In the case of lepers, they weren't allowed into regular churchyards, so re-use of the same grounds in a leper village was also common. (Remember that Hamlet scene where the gravedigger is commenting about Yorik? He was re-using a burial site).

[@keybladewizard49]

Leprosy/Hansen's disease is related to TB, but it's a different bacteria (M. Leprae instead of M. Tuburculosis)

[@lisakilmer2667]

This is another wonderful episode, full of brilliant people doing remarkable work.

[@32dras]

I really like episodes with dr.Margareth Cox, such a fine lady and great expert.

[@patrickwentz8413]

Holy Cow! That is a deep well for today and an incredibly deep well for the when it was hand dug.

[@markuspalmqvist3692]

Why didn't they get some rope to get down and then meassure it ontop? Why use every tape they got😅

[@Thirdbase9]

6 seconds is around 575 feet. Might have been mostly natural.

[@georgecoates2079]

That well is the most interesting on this particular show. How would anyone dug that deep, even if it was first war?

[@ObeyCamp]

Leprosy (commonly referred to as 'Hansen's disease' these days,) is chronic but also curable. Most people don't know that it's actually an infectious disease caused by a bacterium, specifically _Mycobacterium leprae_ . People are usually most familiar with leprosy as a "plague" or disease spoken of in the bible, and they may or may not be familiar with the bumps it causes on the skin, called granulomas (caused by immune cells called 'macrophages' gathering to try and "quarantine" substances it perceives as foreign but can't manage to actually eliminate. Leprosy affects the eyes nose, teeth, and peripheral nerves, foremost, causing loss of sensation from nerve damage, and eventual bone infection (as explained by Prof. Margaret Cox.) The developed world doesn't have very many cases of Hansen's disease, about 20,000 cases are diagnosed per year in the US, however, worldwide, two to three million people are estimated to be permanently disabled because of leprosy. India has the greatest number of cases, with Brazil second and Indonesia third. In 1999, the world incidence of Hansen's disease was estimated to be 640,000. In 2000, 738,284 cases were identified, worldwide.

[@angelitabecerra]

Man that weather was horrendous. Though the Requiem was perfection

[@scooby6742]

Victor Ambrus was such a versatile and wonderful artist! ❤

[@wwaxwork]

I love this storm raging on and all the archaeologists so lost in concentration as chaos reigns around them.

[@lisaashby1547]

I couldn't help think that Mary Magdelene was mad at them for disturbing the people buried there :D

[@MaximvsDread]

Tonys' annuciation is flawless.

[@angelapiccolella1491]

7:48, even Mick's umbrella is striped. ❤

[@scottpool4777]

Same here your exploration is excellent didn’t know no that keep on keeping on very good thank you.

[@marcelguldemond2523]

Great episode. Like many others, I'm amazed by the depth of the well. How on earth could they have dug some like that by hand? but I agree with other commenters that it must be a natural cave. Could you imagine someone in the 12th century digging a well and having the bottom fall out on them, and then falling another 500+ feet? Then again, the height limit for suction pump being able to lift water is 10m, so the WWI army's wind pump must have been pulling water from a much shallower well, so maybe the bottom fell out on the WWI people.

[@PaulMahon-w2b]

I was wondering if the depth was dug in the later times 😊

[@cindydintn]

Thank you for posting Time Team.

[@christianoconnor842]

I just love that show

[@MontyCantsin5]

2:17: '...a collection of finds, some of which seem to be quite important.' 2:30: Tony chucks one of said finds on the ground. Ha!

[@sliewood]

Monty Cantsin Had me in hysterics! His regard for archaeology shines through all weathers eh? A presenter through and through - no wonder the team had such utter contempt for the poor chap!!

[@mikeradford5630]

Mich Aston forever the gentleman probably chastised Tony off camera!!

[@melaniecarver5719]

@@sliewood Did the team have "utter contempt" for Tony?

[@mikeradford5630]

Tony should have got an Oscar not a knigthood.. that should have gone to Phil !!

[@johncarmon9528]

Love this show and right off the rip tony made me laugh when he has the floor tile in one hand and the piece of something in the other hand and he just drops it like it was hot lmbo

[@jonathaneffemey944]

Thanks for posting

[@icarusairways6139]

The Mozart is a nice touch.

[@GaryWNorman]

is there anything Victor can't do? lol

[@katajha831]

I do not think so, no. He is brilliant

[@Wally-H]

Due to the way TV production works it's not easy to know how much of that reconstruction he really did. I strongly suspect that project was led by a facial recognition expert, with Victor's help, rather than the other way round - making it appear that he did it was probably for effect.

[@alanatolstad4824]

He did study human anatomy at college, so he very possibly could have done the bust on his own.---Remarkable work, yep!

[@0623kaboom]

so far all I can figure is he cant give birth to a child ... other than that .... havent seen anything I dont think he could do well at the least

[@GaryWNorman]

@@0623kaboom haha 👍🏼

[@0623kaboom]

get the doc a saint hood if he did father a daughter in his 90's .... be a bloody miracle to keep it in shape long enough in it's own right at that age ;)

[@lisaashby1547]

The two bodies that were buried together would suggest that when the lady died her dad was disinterred and his remains placed in the grave with her. I'm surprised the team never discussed this possibility, especially as they were scratching their heads trying to work out what went on in that grave.

[@PalHBakka]

Continuity is a hallmark of all leper hospitals with the trajectory was leprosy - syphilis - tubercolosis

[@scottpool4777]

Fascinating very very interesting..

[@JereForsyth]

I even dig the theme music

[@benediktmorak4409]

don't know how many episodes i have seen. but definitely not many with nice weather or sunshine for a 3 days...

[@cmdrtianyilin8107]

The ending is... It's pretty emotional.

[@Chubachus]

Fortunately that awful storm didn't last all three days

[@blaggercoyote]

I made the depth about 570 feet but that depends very much on the accuracy of the timing.

[@scottpowers4728]

Is it ever not raining on English Archaeology digs?

[@notsure5698]

Is it just me or does Tony look like the sculpture at the end?

[@patsyross1750]

So interesting!

[@Wattablast50]

The music reminds me of the movie "The Omen".

[@uw1955]

And of course St.Baldrick!

[@DavidSmith-yx7kn]

Victors' artistic talents amaze me. Were his works archived or donated to any certain museum? I do know some of his works were given to some of the people that ask for help.

[@DanKetchum007]

550ft? Wow. How deep is the water table there?

[@lteht6919]

I thought he was gonna drop the microphone thing down the pipe at first

[@chriswarren1618]

Well, Well, OOps wrong math. its (1x32)+(2X32)+(3x32)(4X32)+(5X32)+(6X32) feet drop off =aprox 650 feet/210m

[@oliverwilliams5005]

s = 1/2at2 s = 0.5 x 10 x 6^2 = 5 x 36 = ? So the tape measure might have had a little friction to add to the equation.

[@edsimnett]

Don't want to age anyone, but by the early 80s we were using 9.81 :-)

[@edsimnett]

@@oliverwilliams5005 exactly!

[@maeve4686]

What's math? Oh...that language I don't know...lol. Good job! Thanks

[@ruskinyruskiny1611]

Winchester is no longer sleepy, alas. See John Keats letters on what sleepy really is.

[@Mr100741]

Seriously, does it rain every other day in England?

[@uw1955]

Good job there on the cemetry!

[@lsmftwitchell1939]

It actually requires calculus to calculate fall based on seconds. However, at sea level things accelerate at 32 ft per second per second which allows a rough calculation. Average speed at the end of 1 sec equals about 16 ft per second. Half way through the second second equals about 42 ft per second. So the minimum distance after 6 seconds should be 16+42+74+106+148+180 or 600 ft or 182 meters. Guess archeologists have a problem with math. LOL This is a rough calculation but far better than the archeologists numbers.

[@deaniej2766]

I got curious, so I did the math. That well was 352.8 meters deep, so their 180 meters of tape measure got a little over half way. That is a serious distance to the aquafer.

[@peggyjenkinson4514]

Does the area remain empty because of the fear of leprosy bacteria? Does the leprosy bacteria remain in the bones, soil? Maybe not for 900 years...

[@bluezauza]

I believe that in another episode also at a leper hospital the expert said that there was no danger of that happening and that they were in no danger excavating and handling the bones.

[@1011jjs]

The Leper bones at the start from Chichester, I can remember the cemetry being excavated. The site is now a housing estate. The hospital is still there and now a house.

[@neildyer4433]

Love it

[@acm4bass]

was the 12th century well dug that deep or is that a WWI addition?

[@Wppk765]

Come for the archeology and stay for the Dies Irae 37:16

[@digginz8603]

Old hampshire looks just like New Hampshire!

[@gregb6469]

Why was the chapel building torn down? It survived into the 1700s whole.

[@1011jjs]

There would have been a duty of maintenance on the landowner. So when it became of no use it was easier to tear it down.

[@David-fm6go]

It's almost more disappointing when something survived so long only to be demolished in the 1700 or 1800s. It's almost feels like it made it to yesterday only to just slip through your fingers. Brings the time scale back into focus and remains us actions of great consequence can happen in a short period of time.

[@dann5268]

Tax on buildings may also be motivation.

[@0623kaboom]

of course 3 takes wont reach ... 6 second drop is about 348m deep ... 10m/s2 .... took 6 seconds ... 36 x 10 .. is 360 ... but gravity is 9.8m/s2 ... so about 12m less ... seems Mik the dig .... didnt stop to think what he was doing

[@annodomini7887]

What’s the best way to make ‘deviled eggs’??

[@annpartoon5300]

If tobacco came QE1 time what were they smoking in those pipes ?

[@susanking9033]

The pipes are 17th century which is 1600's

[@dimebagtribute]

You have a lovely weather in England😊 Seriously, it's really a part of why we love England! Without the rain England is not England...

[@DavidSmith-yx7kn]

Alas, poor Yorick! I know him, Horatio. A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.

[@tessat338]

The book was "Ivanhoe".

[@Evelyn-ru4bl]

How could the skeletons be father and daughter if they are 90 and 98? Maybe I misunderstood.

[@PaulMahon-w2b]

So did the records but they never got black to it😊

[@rick5793]

Is there PROOF that leprosy doesn't survive in the ground?? And again I posse the question that hasn't been answered yet " Why only 3 days?"

[@PaulMahon-w2b]

It must be down to leprosy longer than 3 days you disturb the bacteria 😊

[@boffeycn]

Phil is uncanny!

[@markuspalmqvist3692]

Why?

[@StephiSensei26]

I have a cunning plan! Go Home! Have a few pints or warm up with a nice cuppa!

[@StephiSensei26]

@@destinationmobileone5476 Cheers mate!

[@piccalillipit9211]

6 SECONDS = 180m

[@dawngriffin3550]

❤️

[@patriciaheil6811]

Love the Dies Irae. Is that Mozart"s one?

[@nicolasrossi5978]

I don't understand at all the point of trying to cram a whole archeological dig into a 72 hour period. Just seems to cause rushed work and a lot of opportunity for things to be missed or misinterpreted, or even, possibly damaged! Why? what's the point of so much hurry? I did/do very much enjoy the program, but this does not seem the proper way to approach the work. Can someone explain?

[@meemurthelemur4811]

They don't hurry. Everyone is very careful about what they find. TT does exploratory archaeology. They get a picture of what's there and then other groups follow up. Sometimes sites are reburied to protect finds until another team can come in. It's only 72hrs for several reasons. Mostly because everyone has full time jobs elsewhere as professors or whatnot. They all have jobs to get back to on Monday. The other main reason is that's what the tv station allows. Pressure makes for good tv, but also because excavations are expensive and theh don't have the resources to invest in sites that may take weeks. There's a lot that goes into it, but those are the main reasons.

[@blaggercoyote]

And they never explained what the kink on the map was!

[@lesjohnson9740]

Real Archaeology 'Omen in progress', as Ss Buman, says with English shitty weather.

[@carlabraenne3469]

So my 28th great Grandfather. William the conquer grand son. Cool !!

[@chriswarren1618]

That was an unintentional pun......feet drop off!

[@evilborg]

36:00 this chap got fired for being a nob with Tony

[@ian_b]

...not all of its citizens were enjoying the boom boom boom boom BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

[@Libbathegreat]

A criminally underappreciated comment XD

[@ian_b]

@@Libbathegreat Thanks XD

[@christophersmith8316]

if it is really 6 seconds to fall, d=1/2 *a * t * t....or 576 feet! (a=32)

[@BryonLape]

The sound has to travel back up as well. That takes a bit of time.

[@christophersmith8316]

About half a second...which would make it about 485 feet. Sound travels 1116 feet per second.

[@BryonLape]

True. I did find their measuring method to be a bit comical. The weight isn't going to float.

[@CompetitiveAudio]

Bryon Lape In this case Time Team determined the well was ..."deep"... Archeologists are not Mathematicians...HAHA

[@ronaldderooij1774]

Christopher Smith The time was (if I remember correctly) 6.6 seconds as shown on the stopwatch. This means the well a bit more than 200 metres deep until the water table. We of course do not know how deep the water is. By the way I have no idea how many feet 200 metres is. I am from the continent using units people in the rest of the world use.

[@jihnsilcox3078]

I miss toney and the gang commission it bbc

[@thomasevans5467]

Is it just me or does anyone else notice that sometimes it seems like Katie and Phil get quite giggly and ALMOST flirty around each other. There was another episode where it was a hot (for England) summers day and they were wetting the trench to cut the dust and for visibility I think and Katie sprayed Phil with the hose and the both started giggling like school kids and play fighting over the hose.....idk probably just good friends but that did surprise me when I saw that.

[@DeborahParham-ve1vp]

Why would it surprise you? Phil at that point was still a very attractive man and Katie was cute as a button. Let them have a little fun if they want to.

[@DeborahParham-ve1vp]

Actually the bit with the water hose ended with Phil saying they need to stop that because it was inappropriate. Still I see no reason why they couldn't or shouldn't enjoy each other's company. They are both adults after all.

[@ReelSpider]

This was before Mick "The Dig" got himself fired...

[@markuspalmqvist3692]

How did he do that? Never liked him anyway...

[@ReelSpider]

@@markuspalmqvist3692 he refused to hand over test results that the producers had paid for after claiming a specimen could not be dated

[@markuspalmqvist3692]

@@ReelSpider Sorry, from Sweden. Dont undetstand so clarify.

[@ReelSpider]

@@markuspalmqvist3692 I don't remember the episode, but they were dating a bridge, with tree ring dating, that's Mick department, so after not being able to arrive at a date he sent samples off to be tested, the samples came back, and Mick admitted they did have a date, but refused to hand over the results. His services where no longer required after that.

[@ReelSpider]

It was season 17, epp 3. link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6jJlKykdqiUe7M

[@ameilabrewster9532]

Shpuld rebuild the chapel

[@surreygeorge11]

I had a friend who was a leper. He was always willing to give you a hand.

[@paulbriody297]

still ugly though, hehe. Great episode.

[@chriswarren1618]

(gravity)g=32 ft/s/s =9.81m/s/.s In 6 seconds, 32+64+128+256+512+1024=aprpx 2000ft/660m well depth

[@meemurthelemur4811]

Not possible. The deepest hand dug water well is the Woodingdean well dug in 1858. It is 1285 ft deep. The average well is 200-500 ft. The deepest castle well was at Regenstein castle at 197 meters, or 591ft.

[@karmicpopcorn6440]

@@meemurthelemur4811 tell that to the well

[@meemurthelemur4811]

@@karmicpopcorn6440 Hey Well, you're not as deep as they think you are. I don't think it heard me.

[@karmicpopcorn6440]

@@meemurthelemur4811 😂

[@tudorpottudorpot8423]

176.4 m per inline calculator

[@jmmt1968]

I dearly love Phil but I'd love to see him with a hair and nail cut!

[@mikeradford5630]

Why change what he is... into something he isn't !! Like archaeology best left original !

[@jmmt1968]

@@mikeradford5630 he's a treasure for sure. But I cringe when I get a close up on those long dirty nails! I don't think a trim would change who he is!

[@BeetjeObsessief]

@@jmmt1968 he uses them to play guitar

[@deetsy4jesus]

@@jmmt1968 Since he uses those remarkably well kept long nails as tools for his other great passion, playing guitar, it actually would change him. Stop being so elitist.

[@maeve4686]

Plus they're dirty because he's digging in the dirt... Ck out short vids of he & Paul Blinkhorn jamming. Just enter their names. Phil's last name is Harding & his hair is a glorious strawberry blonde . It's what he's worn all his life. Plus, his sideburns are only his. Never have I seen anyone else with that long style tho currently, I've not seen them.

[@chriswarren1618]

Leper Archeologists would have thrown their hands in, at the end of day 1! Laugh your heads off, team. Im not happy with you digging up old bone orchards.

[@basstrammel1322]

I can't decide if Katie or Jenni is hotter

[@claudeusgothicus6453]

I'd pick Jenni.. she has a much nicer personality..

[@ebybeehoney]

Do you know how creepy you sound?

[@animegamingilluminati7583]

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[@0351nick-ch8ee]

Is it just me or do those fingernails creep out anyone else ???

[@deborahparham3783]

Phil's fingernails are long because he is a guitarist. He uses his nails instead of a pick. He is a serious Blues stringer and if you don't like that you can just get over it.

[@thomasc5605]

" With any luck tomorrow we shall be excavating bodies " Is Ghoulism obligatory for this show then ?

[@rocketamadeus3730]

Time team is kind of fucked up with the grave desecration.

[@dann5268]

Information comes at a price. God will find them wherever they end up.

[@barbmcconnaughey3070]

#12cHospital/colony