Time to sell my Vintage Neumann U47!?

[@JamesStMichael]

Interesting bro. You should do a comparison of a C800 vs the GA800 or any audio examples you have. Id like to hear if possible the smoother top end you were talking about!

[@Christian_svedin]

My brother owns a Sony so it's going to happen at one point in time! The open top on the Sony sits very high. Like 10khz, which to me isn't really needed. Only used the real Sony a few times so maybe it's super nice heh! I also heard pretty terrible recording with the Sony 🙈😁

[@rtdrec]

Hey, great video! I think you should definitely try the Brauner VM1 or VMX. There is also the VMA, which combines both microphones and allows you to switch between the two sounds. It has the 3D effect of the great vintage microphones, but sounds much more modern. I would compare both to a more modern U47/Elam251 sound, although the VMX sounds even more vintage as the lows are more pronounced. However, it definitely still sounds clear and open. Brauner microphones are world class, and not just when it comes to voices!

[@RipperFromYT]

Great video as usual dude. I own a fair amount of vintage gear but with the way prices are skyrocketing I've been shifting directions as well. One of the big things for me with the new stuff is resale value so I'm factoring that in with my purchase decisions. A couple Redd47 pres are on my short list so good to see you interested in the REDD mic. Those are the kinds of pieces that might even appreciate over time.

[@Christian_svedin]

Nice man! Yeah and although I love Vintage there are ofc stunning modern mics as well. I'll see if I I'm able to do a big tube preamp test in the future. Thanks for watching 💪

[@luismoroni-radio7986]

I want to buy the best Clone U47 VOXORAMA U47 and I don't know whether to choose the M7 or the K49 capsule. It is used to record voiceovers, documentaries, advertising, etc. Thank you!

[@musiccreation1198]

Ty! Great timing for me to hear your thoughts. Any thoughts on the Townshend Sphere? I'm tempted by the FleA 47.

[@Christian_svedin]

Hey, I think I will be able to demo the Flea. Townshend is owned by UA now so I think it will be hard for me to get a demo ex. I'd love to try it though 😁

[@manuellujan5625]

@@Christian_svedin where are you located sir? I have a townsend and if you need one I may be able to send to you. I see that you are very trustworthy in the whole sense and would love a review on it with upur expertise.

[@domonickwilliams33]

I listened to your demo videos of the chandler mic and the gap 800 mic and I think 🤔 you should go with the gap 800 this is coming from a producer and artist who primarily record’s R&b and trapsoul music I’ll admit l’m partial to the gap because I have the Sony mic and I love how vocals are pristine and up front very easy to mix and I think that the gap sounded great on your voice up font without peeking love it paired with a 1073 and a CL1b it’s the perfect set up for a good vocal recording 👌🏾

[@Christian_svedin]

Thanks man! I'll see if I find a Sony for a good price. I really want to see how it works on my voice and in context. The GAP almost has a vintage vibe but still retaining the Sony signature. Really excellent mic!

[@reread2549]

I just decided to replace my RCA BK 5 with an AEA Ku5a, Nothing as rare or expensive as the U47, but the last time I had my RCA worked on it completely changed the sound when they had to replaced the magnets. I didn’t wanna go through that again. Thank you so much for the video with the explanation.

[@Christian_svedin]

Good move! Yeah I do like quality but it's also nice to see mics as tools and not so precious and expensive that you're afraid of using them. There are allot of great options these days!

[@Jjf109nine]

Well, I got First hand information about the new M49 Reissue. Neumann will announce it in July. Maybe you should consider this. I will.

[@Jjf109nine]

Now it’s official, I told y’all.

[@onomatopoeidia]

Agree on the ageless quality of the original mics. They continuously go up in value so much better investment that cash in the bank and you get to enjoy them. I’ve only ever regretted selling classic gear and then ended up selling the replacement mic too! Peluso 47LE was my worst fail, nothing like the original unfortunately.

[@Christian_svedin]

I had one for years, a Peluso. I actually liked it. Served me well and sounded great on pretty much all singers.

[@onomatopoeidia]

@@Christian_svedin It really annoyed me because it was an expensive thing. on drum overheads it was ok but not spectacular like my Gefell CMV563 or Neumann U77.

[@pongmaster123]

don't worry about your vf14, its underheated in a correct working circuit, and it can be regenerated.

[@oliviermpeeters]

Great topic Christian ! Have been thinking the same here selling my vintage U47 with original VF14 while it is still fully working. I have tested it again many different condensers like you did and very often for vocals I don’t end up picking it up. In my case, the Manley reference gold or the Neumann 149 are usually preferred for vocals by clients. On the other side my U47 gets a lot of love when used as mono overhead, specially with a V76. Fantastic sound. So not yet fully sure about what to do, will probably still wait a bit before making any decision. Cheers

[@Christian_svedin]

Ah nice! Yeah it does sound wonderful on certain instruments. My favourite has been in Omni on acoustic guitar. The VF76 combo works extremely well on the U47. But using a 20k mic on guitar heh, or for mono OH for that matter 😁 thanks for watching 🙏

[@dkokalanov]

Do you mean drum overhead particularly or other?

[@MariJu1ce]

Hey christian, have you troed the new tele u47, is it any good? Does it compare with the top price clones out there?

[@Christian_svedin]

I haven't tried any of the TF USA offerings. I find the prices to be amusing. It's just a clone. There are quite a few great clones in the 3-4k range

[@MariJu1ce]

@@Christian_svedin yea same, way too high prices. But i have listened to all the other clones and still not really heard anything that makes me wanna buy, but yet to hear the tf usa. And vintage prices are just crazy now. Wonder why its so hard to just make a replica that sounds just like the old ones.

[@michaelcaplin8969]

@@MariJu1ce What I've picked up on by listening to the world's foremost microphone expert Klaus Heyne, is that no one knows how to make truly great microphones anymore. Neumann is the ONLY company in the world currently that knows how to make really great capsules the way they are supposed to be made (I think only 5 individuals in the world, all employed by Neumann knows how to properly make microphone capsules), however NO ONE knows how to make truly great transformers anymore, which is why Neumann got rid of transformers and went with the much hated TLM line that sacrifices all musicality and sound quality with noise specs and SPL advantages, simply because they don't know how to make great sounding transformers. No one does. It is lost knowledge unfortunately. Making great quality microphone tubes is also a lost art, and there are currently only a small handful of companies worldwide making tubes in mostly Russia, and they are simply sub par anything that was made in Europe back in the day. Gefell used to make GREAT m7 capsules up until the early 2000's, but after they stopped making good ones, Neumann is the only ones making really great capsules, but no one makes great transformers or tubes, so that's why it is impossible to make them sound as great as they used to. We simply don't know how anymore, because new technology came along that made every factory smelt down the machinery necessary to make these things, without preserving documentation vital in order to make the components. If we gave a company the cash to power a small European country for a year to redevelop the old methods, maybe they could reverse engineer some of it and rediscover old techniques to reproduce proper clones, but that's not going to happen. So until then, NO clone will be up to par, really. Although for styles of music where sound quality isn't that important and things will be compressed and mixed loud anyways, clones will do just as fine a job as the old originals. Though you are not going to get magic sounding uncompressed jazz records with clones.

[@Daviddosi]

Hade också lagt till Lauten Eden på listan om jag var du! Det är min main mikrofor. Har testat Chandler redd lite hastigt i samma rum som Eden och dom var på en jämn nivå med varandra. Eden har också en grym top end som samtidigt lyckas vara smooth som du verkar leta efter.

[@Christian_svedin]

Ah ok! Försökt att få till ett test av Lautent utan framgång heh! Verkar väldigt intressant och priset är ok. Nu har jag en rätt gedigen databas med micktester så det är lite lättare att utvärdera. Men det mesta (om inte allt) i high-end klassen är riktigt bra men man vill ju hitta "the One" 😁✌️

[@rijankatwal534]

You said you didn't regret selling your U87 pair, what did you end up replacing them with?

[@Christian_svedin]

A u87 haha! Well I've been through m269, u87s, 47 and u67 all OGs. And I actually bought a 1969 87 earlier this year which sounds wonderful. If I have to choose the m269 is my all time favourite but it has a very expensive tube in it

[@heythere6983]

I was wondering if you had your own 47, I thought you did but I wasn’t sure when I saw you review the golden age m7 47. I was wondering why you didn’t compare the two that would have been awesome .

[@Christian_svedin]

Hmm, well no real reason really. Sometimes it's about the time, though I usually only have these mics in the studio for a small period of time. Thanks for watching ✌️

[@heythere6983]

I just watched your 800 And redd videos. It’s a tough choice . They are fairly different . The chandler sounds significantly more robust to me, but maybe a little too “hard” and sizzly. The 800 sounded nice and smooth. Tough to say since it depends on the song and feel. But maybe the chandler would take up more space than necessary . Though, I suppose you would like your voice to be the main instrument heard so that makes sense. Tough choice lol. I also listened to the Neumann m269. That one I feel may best suit your preference for body and brightness , it has a great balance . Certainly the 800 would sit your voice in the mix more and the chandler seems it would place your voice on the mix. I personally always liked songs with vocals somewhat in the midst of all the music. Always makes me want to turn up the volume and it creates a somewhat warm feeling for me. Whereas a more forward vocal is a bit less inviting and more likely to cover up the music. Very different feels! Frankly if you sell the u47, you could afford both those mics anyways lol

[@Christian_svedin]

@@heythere6983 thanks for the reply! Yeah it's hard to find a universal mic. Sometimes the arrangement needs more space and sometimes the vocals need that extra room. The Redd definitely has a warmth to it, the lowmids bloom very nicely. It is on the verge of being to bright. I suspect that it has to do with the tubepre, I'd love to see Chandler releasing a Redd without the preamp circuit. The GAP8000 is both smooth and balanced but perhaps not as vibey. Though choice! I will keep the 269 for now and see how I feel about it later. There are still mics to be discovered 😁 Thanks for watching ✌️

[@heythere6983]

Good luck on your search. Maybe you should try out some c12 clones? Or maybe the hidden ingredient is a mic pre or compressor. Who knows, thanks for all your effort in your vids

[@maximboe]

Hey it seems like you’re looking for a brighter mic these days but out of the U47 style mics you’ve tested which one left the most positive feeling?

[@Christian_svedin]

Hey! Yeah atleast for vocals. I think the Wunder Cm7S was awesome but the GA47 was also quite nice :)

[@maximboe]

@@Christian_svedin Thanks man I just ordered a Flea 47 :)

[@Christian_svedin]

@@maximboe congratulations! I hope I can try a few Flea mics in the future!

[@robinleijon]

Skulle vara kul att se om du skulle kunna göra lite tester på pencil kondensatorer i olika prisklasser! Jag är ett stort fan utav Line Audios CM3/4 \m/ Ligger på circa tusenlappen.

[@Christian_svedin]

Jag är öppen för det mesta. Det svåra är att få tag i mickar just nu eftersom kanalen är så liten 😬

[@marinmardari]

What's your thoughts about Gefell UM 92.1S? Did you try it?

[@Christian_svedin]

Hey, never tried any Gefell mics I'm afraid. I'm probably missing out!

[@kimwirzenius9955]

Please share the tests you're planning to make!

[@magik001]

Christian, the I own the GA-8000 and use the Chandler now and then at a buddy's studio. They are both excellent microphones. Both will hold their value. I got rid of almost all of my vintage microphones, every few months/year i had to send one to Germany. I kept my pair om UMT70's.

[@Christian_svedin]

Nice! I haven't had any issues with my vintage mics so far but it is kind of inevitable i guess. Great to hear you rock the GAP 👌

[@magik001]

@@Christian_svedin Wow, that's great. Most of my vintage gear was second hand cause I'm not from a later era. The GA-8000 is quite impressive and I own a few of the big boys also and used almost all except a (factory spec) M269C and Solution D.

[@Christian_svedin]

@@magik001 nice. Well it's allot easier to be more sain about mics once you owned and tried the classics. It's just to much hype around them and although I think they're superior to the clone counterparts they cost way to much these days!

[@magik001]

@@Christian_svedin I do find them to be ever so slightly superior if the vintage model was well maintained. They are definitely overhyped. Behind closed doors i have seen big name artists snd producers using many modern microphones.

[@Christian_svedin]

@@magik001 yeah Its both sad and nice that there are so many good clones on the market. I wished that there where more mics trying to do something unique or would atleast stay away from putting 47 or 251 in the name 🤣

[@dreamix2007]

I sold my vintage U47 w vf14, in the end i was too afraid to use it and thats not how uts suppose to be :/

[@Christian_svedin]

Totally understand. Did you find anything to replace it with? A new favourite?

[@dreamix2007]

Im sure there is good clones etc... I dont think I ever get that sound again tho, i have vintage U87 and 67 and with some micpreamps mixtures its good enough :)

[@Christian_svedin]

@@dreamix2007 yeah they're ok. A u67 is quite easy to maintain as well. I think I'll go for something in production though if I don't find something "cheap" 😁✌️

[@dreamix2007]

@@Christian_svedin Totally, when you find your replacement please make a review about it, Im interested in this aswell 😎

[@Christian_svedin]

@@dreamix2007 it most likely won't be a u47 style mic 🙈✌️

[@demodeiowa]

have you tried Advanced Audio's clones?

[@Christian_svedin]

I've tried contacting AA with no luck so nope! 🙈

[@demodeiowa]

Christian Svedin aaaah I see. At least you tried. They’re really good

[@richardpenrose1968]

What are your thoughts on the Sony C-80 compared to these mics?

[@Christian_svedin]

Well a tube mic will always have more vibe and saturation so it's like comparing apples to oranges.. the C-80 is great and and that price it's awesome!

[@richardpenrose1968]

@@Christian_svedin Yes fair point. One of my most used mics is the Vanguard V13 which I really like a lot

[@richardpenrose1968]

@@Christian_svedin I am looking for a FET mic compliment the V13. I'm looking for something that has a really smooth non sibilant/harsh top end and am considering the Sony C-80 alongside the JZ V11, Shure KSM32 and Roswell mini K87

[@Christian_svedin]

@@richardpenrose1968 nice haven't tried any Vanguard mics but heard good things about them. But try out the C-80 when it becomes available, super solid!

[@Christian_svedin]

@@richardpenrose1968 i also enjoyed the Chandler TG but that's 4x the price of the Sony. For such a well known brand Sony could have charged twice as much.

[@Eric_DiRisio]

Chandler REDD is pretty hard to beat so I hear lately for its high end value for dollar. Greg Wells swears by his over all his vintage stuff. I'm still really happy with my Upton 251 though

[@Christian_svedin]

Nice to hear more people digging it. I haven't felt that the 251 clones I've tried so far has been as good as I wanted them to be. Mainly to thick in the lowmids which isn't really a 251 trade. Ofc the Upton and Bock sounded great but I do prefer the Redd by far. Thanks for watching ✌️

[@Eric_DiRisio]

@@Christian_svedin very cool! one day I'll have the funds to experiment with mics on the level you do man. Gonna take some time but, eventually. Another great video as always though man!

[@Christian_svedin]

@@Eric_DiRisio sometimes it's better to just go out make music. To easy to get stuck chasing the golden goose 🤣🦆🦆

[@Eric_DiRisio]

@@Christian_svedin Amen, yeah I agree. None the less fun to chase that bird though sometimes

[@ripdocholiday9650]

U sounded like gold on the ga 8000

[@Christian_svedin]

Thanks 🙏

[@doraysmith]

A far as replicas I'd go with STAM...if you can find it

[@MaximVassilenko]

Y'all might say this mic barely a difference bla bla bla but when it comes time to submit a song to a label and they ask you to burn you songs on cd in wav and they listen in their fancy speakers. They are listening to EVERYTHING

[@rolandoo002]

Don't sell them. You will regret it your whole life! They sound phenomenal on your voice. Especially the U47.

[@Christian_svedin]

Haha, thanks for the encouragement! U47 not so much probably. The M269 has a bit more sentimental value for me. We'll see!

[@gmichaelhall]

@@Christian_svedin I completely agree with you on the U47, while I do not own one, having rented them, I have never felt I needed to own one. The rapport surrounding the U47 is really bloated by those who have never nor will ever own. Not that it's not a fantastic microphone, but pragmatism must prevail at some point. On the other hand, they will prise my vintage M269b from my dying hands, I will never choose to willingly sell it, even though my Flea 269b is absolutely undeniably very close. They work on literally everything. And for the first time in my audio life, I'm looking at the replicas and clones beyond the FleAs et al top end of food chain reps. There are some cost effective options available today that appeal to my practicality as well as appease my knowing the difference in quality between an original and a competent replica. Stay safe and well kind man ✌️ 🎶 🎶

[@Christian_svedin]

@@gmichaelhall ah a fellow m269 lover 🤣 I think it's just two completely different sounds. The realness of the m269 is unbelievable the U47 is more like an oil painting. Full vibrant and gooey 🙈 I really like the U47 in Omni on acoustic guitar though. But that is one expensive guitar mic 😁✌️

[@dkokalanov]

Please message me if you decide to sell the U47! 🙂

[@Christian_svedin]

It's sold! I might sell my m269 though! You can contact me on Instagram if you want to have a chat!

[@TheJonOsborne]

Vintage King is the biggest scam in the industry: listing U47s with little to no descriptions about the work they have done to "restore" them and not even bothering to show pictures of the internals/capsules. Steer clear of this company at ALL costs!

[@ryanshook8284]

Wait..... all talking no test?

[@Christian_svedin]

Hi, there are quite a few videos on my channel where I used the vintage U47. V76 episode, Wunder Cm7 etc 👍

[@NickAnanas]

As they say Do not sell at any price

[@kevinlentz7604]

GA 47