Time to upgrade your GE200? | Comparing amps of the Mooer GE200 and GE250

[@TaylorDanley]

Which amp models do YOU want to see shot out? Sub if you haven't! 🙌

[@mrspoon1956]

Taylor Danley The Citrus Amps please! Preferebly mid-pronounced, you know like the band Ghost's live tone during 2013-2016. A video that demonstrates that tone well is Ghost Live at Annexet 2015 by Hans Von Bell

[@TaylorDanley]

Your tugging at my heart strings! I love that tone and band

[@mrspoon1956]

Taylor Danley I actually didn't know that. It's my favorite band and has been since the fall of 2017. What's your favorite Ghost song then?

[@TaylorDanley]

🤔 Ritual or Jigolo Har Megiddo... Maybe Circe. Too hard to pick just one!

[@mrspoon1956]

Same, it's much easier to just say that pretty much all of their songs are great. But Cirice, Ritual and Absolution are probably at the top for me. But their guitar tone is amazing, I've been trying to get that for quite some time now. I don't own a modeler, so it's been difficult to achieve it with gear that isn't what they've used. But the Orange Micro Dark clean with a Rat distortion boosted with a Tube Screamer going in to it gets in that ballpark

[@davids9192]

Maybe there is a subtle difference at bedroom/headphone levels but on stage cranked the punters won’t hear a difference. Still happy with my 200.

[@jiriborek4729]

With custom IRs or v2.0.3 you get great sounds from 200 too. For playing live I would suggest 250 of course as there are more options with the cables, volume knobs etc

[@ChiAeNima]

Very useful bro. I own the PreAmp Live but I'm thinking in buying the GE250 and now I'm more convinced. Thnx bro. Cheers from Spain. Stay safe.

[@TaylorDanley]

🤘 you too!

[@dudarino666]

I use a Mooer Ge200 practice and live. I found a capture of the pre amps for a Rev amp, it came from a Ge300 and I have no idea where I found it now. But it dramatically changed the tone on that thing. It sounded so good when paired with a proper power amp. I get compliments on my tone all the time.

[@SuperBriandamage]

One application that would be key is comparing both through a clean channel or effects return of an amplifier with the cab models off to see if there are differences there. I do that alot live.

[@bikersoncall]

For me, that cab feature on a lot of processors is something I wind up using often, not for the authenticity of the cab particularly , just because 'it' often radically changes whatever sound you have going on, changes that sound for better and worse , depending on which cab you hit, a Marshall 412, may not sound anything like a Marshal 412, but is sure will change the sound compared with some of the other cabinet 'names' . lol ./

[@rafaelnunes2195]

I would like to see a test using the same IR in both!

[@bikersoncall]

5:35 I agree, but I'm not saying that the 200 is not close, I think in this demo it sounded good, but on many of 'chord passes' by comparison with the the 250 , the 200 sounded like it had a sheet over the 'cabinet' , mildly to moderately muffled. I felt more clarity coming from each note of the chords for the most part in the 250 sound bites. Both sound good here, I would go with the 250, considering this clip, tone capture*, and exp pedal, on off switch, xlr outs, and a couple other things he mentioned. I ordered the GE 250 yesterday, looking forward to trying it out, I'll probably try both Guitar amp and PA. *Tone Capture, this feature is 'scary' , I've read that it is close, not perfect, I will be very interested in seeing if 'close' is passable, if it is, then yeah, this is a very scary feature, not in a bad way for 'users' , but perhaps for pedal builders. :) shrugs....

[@VESANG]

To me the ge200 has more clarity but IMHO the difference is the EQ . With EQ tweak you can make them sound identical. There is video here GE200 vs GE300 amp comparison... basically NO DIFFERENCE !

[@davids9192]

Price difference of $180-$200 between the two will be a decider for some. I’m sticking with my 200 till I can afford a Helix.

[@JiTiAr35]

Different league. Helix is more comparable to GE300

[@eranfalek]

They sound different, but I don't know if I would say the 250 sounds better. I liked both. It would be interesting to compare the blacknight vs the pedal version. Or any other model they have a mini preamp of. Loved the riffs!👍

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks 🙌 I did a preamp vs ge200 video... I'd definitely do that again for the 250

[@asianaxeman]

Tone deaf

[@JosePineda-jn8jk]

The 4cm was the reason I didn’t get the 200 and did get an hx stomp. I would have loved the footprint of the mooer and would have been fine with the sounds of the models but, I do use my hx with my amp most of time so it was must to have that feature. If it was today and I was deciding I would strongly lean to the 250 for the number of effects at once as well as the extra buttons and expression pedal built in. I do have the option of making a crazy pedal board with the stomp though and that will make it very adaptable for the future

[@JosePineda-jn8jk]

Also side question, is the 250 capable of send and return on the midi simultaneously? Or is it more limited in the midi functionality by only allowing for send or return depending on the patch setting?

[@TaylorDanley]

Good question, I haven't tried the midi functionality yet. I'm gonna have a TON of Mooer content coming soon, so I'll try and cover that.

[@JosePineda-jn8jk]

Taylor Danley thanks I’ll look out for it, maybe I’ll switch over if I see if the features are compelling enough.

[@alexskibicki2262]

Killer demo...they both sounded pretty cool. \m/

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks 🙌

[@pho5phoros]

With stock amps and IRs there's quite some difference, but if you know how to dial between profiles and custom IRs, the difference is quite absent, if not on general quality in dynamics and recording, but that's a substancial hardware one

[@liampaulgilbert]

I always read the description😁

[@meanwhileinespoo1265]

it does sound much better, but is it because they made their own models better by tweaking them, like adding a choptones metal pack? or is it that the hardware is better?

[@ithelesser9061]

Juicy riffing, those sound way more different than I would have thought. Wowza.

[@artojhannula]

Cool video. Subbed.

[@MauricioJaguan]

Great!!! I'd love to see a GE250 vs Ampero as well \m/

[@emmancastillo8679]

yesssss, make that happen great Taylor!

[@TaylorDanley]

Its coming!

[@MauricioJaguan]

@@TaylorDanley Nice! Thanks for doing all this stuff! I have to say that although a big chunk of my attention goes to metal tones I also gravitate towards other kind of sounds. I wish there was a channel like yours that did fusiony videos as well 😝

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌

[@slopiecki]

Hi all, for the last 2 years I used mooer ge 200, last Friday I got it new Mooer ge 300. I really disappointed because sound it’s so muddy….. not open like ge 200….. I’m decided sent new purchased back….😀

[@barrygomez5968]

Best riffs I've heard on this channel so far. 😈

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌

[@emmancastillo8679]

MOOER V.S AMPERO. You know we want it, you know you want it, you know youtube wants it. Great video as always man!

[@emmancastillo8679]

Just AMP sound quality. Because the GE250 has more stuff than the Ampero but people would love to know which one sounds better than the other!

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks 🙌 I'll get one of these videos in there soon

[@mtabet02]

Ampero doesnt do delay trails, and ge250 has designated bank up and down buttons. The patch buttons are multifunctional as well.

[@sylvainnarbonne8428]

@@mtabet02 Ampero DO delay trails ..

[@withoutairwithoutwords5382]

I kinda liked the 200 better..??? But I like brighter mid rangey guitars in general..I own a 200 and I use it for front of house live worship at my church....I've never tried recording with it. I have to many gnarly tones with third party plugins to even think about it...I do agree and like agree about the power button on the 250..

[@TaylorDanley]

Power button was a big improvement! I think the feature set makes the 250 worth the upgrade regardless of the tonal change, but that's just me.

[@williamheitl8941]

Great content overall and this video is especially timely for me. I've been considering a modeler and the question of is the ge250 worth the extra money has been hard to figure out. It's sounds considerably better.

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌 thanks! Yeah, I had the same questions, so I wanted to make sure to get this out there for others!

[@rafaconfraria]

congratulations, excellent video !!! I recently got the GE200 and I'm really enjoying it, but I miss the effects loop, as I would like to add some analog pedals (the Mooer compressors are very weak LOL), Another thing I noticed is that the GE250 has a little more definition of the drives . Anyway congratulations once again for the excellent video, a hug from guitarists in Brazil

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌

[@Sleeep1]

I sold my GE200 for GE250. It is big improvement - and with Tone Capture its a lot better.

[@Sleeep1]

And I want to hear compare between EVHIII and ENGL. This are best higain amp in Mooer GE 200 for me.

[@Metallicon13]

@@Sleeep1 +100 for engl, absolutely love it in this unit. I compared ENGL simulation in G200 to Line6 (stomp/native/floor) and some plugins, as well as the real amp, Mooer does it 99% better than others.

[@TaylorDanley]

I really like those amps as well!

[@dantearturorodriguezcamach2613]

Hey Bartosz, I'm planning on doing the same. Got a question for you regarding the GE250. When you change patches using the A B C switches does the patch change the instant you PRESS the switch DOWN to its furthest point, or does it change the instant you LIFT your foot RELEASING the switch? (If the latter happens it gives a sense of "lag" when changing patches) and I want to make sure exactly whats happens before I buy it. Thanks so much!

[@JTB--]

GE250 has the sound edge and when you add in Tone Capture and XLR Out... it's the clear choice if cost isn't a major factor

[@MikeJBlues]

I love my GE 200 but just ordered a 250. Hoping the volume levels are better on the 250. Noticed a lot of the presets were not level volume wise when switching between presets

[@danaowens30]

Thats why there is a menu to adjust it to your own taste. Every single effects pedals multi effects unit floor or rack unit's stock presents all suck and you have an option to change any type of effects to your own taste. Its a proven fact my G.

[@SuperBriandamage]

Also wondering if the newer ge150 has the same tone as the 250..It's reallly cheap to get that one.

[@danaowens30]

No different quality in options

[@michalkysel4351]

There is a slight difference. 200 is a modeler, but 250 is a profiler, it can sample and replicate sound of the amp, due it’s “Tone Capture” function. So, if you want to own something like Kemper, but in the price level up to 500$, it’s first choice for you. Instead of this, 200 is still very good modeler, and with third party IRs it can produce really killer sounds.

[@kikkoguitar]

they do!

[@Bcwilderness]

nice 1 taylor going to pull on the 250, going to sound great into my prism titan, an api or neve pre will tip it over the axe fx, awesome great vid

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks! 🙌

[@unleashthefury111]

The 200 had more fizz. Just a thought here....if you capture a tone with this pedal and then use the pedal direct to PA at a show, it wont sound nearly the same as the amp+cab in the room sound that you were trying to capture, correct? I.e, it would only be close to the same if you hooked up the 250 to an amp in 4CM....otherwise taking that captured tone and plugging it into a PA would color the tone drastically. Right?

[@TaylorDanley]

🤷‍♂️ no idea. If you had a good IR of the cab and mic you'd be using live, it probably wouldn't be dramatically different.

[@fakefake9464]

Could you load pls the same "Tone Capture" to both units and test the difference?

[@MarcAndreLevesque]

The 250 uses exactly the same code as the preamp pedals and way better IRs than the GE200, probably the Radar ones. The GE200 predates most of the preamp pedals and it shows.

[@TheQuintinoo]

Do you think the GE250 sounds exactly like the micro pre amps?

[@alwaysrockn2009]

Great video dude! Can you compare the 250 to the new Line 6 Pod Go Pro? I’m really interested in both of these units and they are priced similarly but which rocks more would be awesome to see. Rock on!

[@bikersoncall]

Since I use an amp, and might also run through my PA , I would think that turning off Cab sim for the amp and leaving it on for the lxr outs would be key, I doubt that feature is included, but would be great if it was.

[@sandwich4916]

that's included

[@tsiakkiros]

I have a problem with my Mooer GE200. I connect it to my Mac through the USB, i select the Mooer as the input source, but i don't get any sound our of the internal speakers. Please help

[@IntoSpectrum]

the GE 200 seems to have more mud than the 250, maybe to the global eq. the 250 comes with a more "polished" sound to the ears, Maybe using IR's this difference disappears a little

[@TaylorDanley]

Didnt use the global EQ in the comparison, it was just the same amps+cabs and settings. I think the 250 sounds significantly smoother and more glassy in the mids.

[@DrunkDuckXD]

I like the 200 better. It sounds like the treble is a bit high but the 250 just sounds too modern and held back. 200 has that classic 90s death growl of aggression and defiance.. Also this is just one setting. With these multi effect pedals there's bound to be some effects you'd like more than others side by side in a blind test. For me these pedals are just to bs around in and record demos until I can dial in a more precise sound on computer based software like Axe FX or Helix FX. For that I want a small unit, easy UI, and a low price point. So 200 wins!

[@DonHichot]

me too

[@guitarguts666]

I have a preamp live you should compared the 250 heads against that

[@TaylorDanley]

I have some micropres I can compare, but I dont have preamp live. 🤔

[@jamesfindice2871]

Not sure if you read this. I was wondering if i can use my raw out/preamp out on my tube amp or the line out of my attenuator to go into a mooer ge200 and use Only the cab sim to send my real amp through an ir? This way i would Only need the modeler and not another ir loader pedal like mooer radar… for live situations or headphone practice. My attenuator does not have a headphone out.

[@synastikki]

I would love to see a test with using the same IR and same amp settings just to see the difference in amp modeling

[@bosconroses]

Right!👍

[@dan_perry]

That's some difference! Hows about dailing in the quintessential Mark IIc+ tone Master/AJFA era Metallica?

[@TaylorDanley]

Good idea.

[@dan_perry]

Hit me up if you need any assistance. I've owned a mkIIIc+ for over 30 years...I know it intimately.🥰🤘

[@agostinodemarcus3617]

Hi Taylor, the GE 250 sound better to me. Do you have on plan a comparison agaist the Mooer Preamp Live? I'm very curious to know if the GE series use the same technology.

[@TaylorDanley]

No plans, but if the opportunity comes up, I'd definitely do it!

[@demoskoval]

How do you solve the issue with a sudden blast of volume when you change from a clean preset to an overdrive preset?

[@gabrielstevens41]

I don't know, I listened to the video but didn't watch it so really couldn't tell you which was which. Some tones sounded different to me but not necessarily "better" in any appreciable way.

[@NeilDjents]

Is it possible for me to use a head with the GE250? Say if my head DI goes to the input of the 250 with a cab and all effects?

[@TaylorDanley]

Best way is using the 4 cable method if your amp has an fx loop

[@JiTiAr35]

Nice. Next, tube amp and tone capture ge250 do they sound different

[@TaylorDanley]

Stay tuned Wednesday 😉

[@SERGIOALBARBIERI]

Have you tried both 200 and 250 with the same 3rd party IRs? They still sound different this way?

[@TaylorDanley]

Not yet!

[@darthshaggy9970]

@@TaylorDanley can you do a comparision between the same preamp+same IR and a tone capture vs original preamp? (for example a tone capture of the 5150 vs 5050 mooer preamp 250-200)

[@TaylorDanley]

🤔🤔🤔🤔 that's a pretty good idea

[@unleashthefury111]

@@darthshaggy9970 yes please

[@johnschober4008]

250 sound much thicker and deeper!...and better!

[@Winterhe4rt]

GE 250 VS POD GO. Lets go! =)

[@TaylorDanley]

What are you doing here? Are you reading my mind??

[@neriberto]

It's a great difference, Mooer GE250 has global eq and GE200 doesn't, in the video the global eq appear to be on,..

[@TaylorDanley]

I know, it's off. I'm not sure why the light stays on when you bypass it 🤷‍♂️

[@neriberto]

@@TaylorDanley no problem, it's a great demo, I have an mooer Ge200 and I love the machless, rec one video about this amp on ge250, if possible...

[@bikersoncall]

Tube swap simulation is in Cab section? Shouldn't that be in the amp section?

[@reeshavhati]

The GE250 has a lot more depth to its sounds... but Taylor does it now feel like a HX stomp, does it feel more like a tube amp? How is the attack when compared to Line6?

[@TaylorDanley]

I dont notice amy difference between the 3 unless I'm tweaking the power amp settings in the hx stomp

[@jonathancamp8774]

can you explain why when testing the the 2 mooers do you play a lot of rock heavy/shred style as I do not play it i would like to hear softer style such as country /rock-a-billy as the style that's played i do not know so i can't tell if one is better or not the thing is nearly all demos use the heavier style of music or is it me I'm a 69 yrs old from the u.k

[@squierjoshyt]

Can you stack multiple OD pedals with the 250? That's a major limitation of the 200. Or, using more than one modulation or FX/Comp option?

[@aqpforce]

what do u think about the USB conection and quality of the GE250 vs POD Go ? I heared that the parameters of POD Go is better, but what do u think? Cause I want to gete a new multieffect, and a few years before I recorded an entire EP with the HD500x of line 6, and it was great to use as a direct interface.

[@danaowens30]

Line 6 is good but somewhat lacking the technology of the Mooer GE series my G. Line6 POD is so old ancient as in old-school outdated. Get with the new bro. And leave the old to the Gods of Musics past.. where those Line 6 Pod belong as well kiddo

[@aqpforce]

@@danaowens30 well. Not agree. I have a GE 250 now and compare with my old and seelled POD HD500x I can say that line 6 is way better than the Chinese one, in a deep way....

[@fireheart_7]

Do these units have trails and spillover? At least trails when turning delay off/on within the preset?

[@VelhosNovos]

250 wins. Is it possible two mics in the 250?

[@TaylorDanley]

No, it has the same cab controls as the ge200, they just have way more control over the tone.

[@VelhosNovos]

@@TaylorDanley Thanks. I dont know about the 250, but using two mics in Helix makes difference.

[@bikersoncall]

I always use my amp, I guess this is crap with an amp, I have yet to hear anyone use any of the GE series with an amp.

[@tazshreds222]

Taylor, Have you ever plugged a Digitech drop tune whammy into the ge200 Because I was thinking about buying one soon and I think it would be bad ass to have that plugged in with each other I don’t really use the whammy on the GE 200. I’ve been using my chf crybaby on it

[@isaiascastro8821]

Which one you prefer so far, GE 250 or ampero?

[@TaylorDanley]

Hard to say, haven't had much time with the ge250... but it does have more features. Things I really wish the ampero had, like global EQ

[@WintermintP]

Taylor I have no clue if I'll get a response from you about this but I'll ask anyway, how were you able to send the GE200 directly to the front of house without an XLR output?

[@pedrohdsantos]

In a matter about mods, delays and reverb, did you think de ge250 worth the upgrade? (sorry for my bad english)

[@TaylorDanley]

I think it does everything better, but most noticeable are the additional options for the amp sims/cabinet emulation as well as the tone capture. Hope that helps!

[@bikersoncall]

5:53 Great , that's what most of use came here for, we wanted you're opinion, not just a question. It seemed to me that the 250 was a tighter sound on almost everything, the 200 sounded great, but the 250 seemed to just tighten everything up, sounded like a bit more quality tone.

[@jolumaco]

Excelente video!! Yo tengo la ge 200 🙂

[@bonnyaraya2049]

Buen video, pero estoy entre la g250 y la nueva zoom g6, podrias hacer una review de la Zoom

[@bluematrix5001]

and what about the GE 250 vs GE 300?

[@lauriebeeldigoh]

This video make me wanna sale my GE200 and buy a new GE250.

[@altpath]

Which firmware version are you using on the 200? 2.0.3 is out and it's supposed to be the best version so far. I don't have a PC right now so I can't update mine yet.

[@TaylorDanley]

B2.0.3.

[@petab81]

@@TaylorDanley I suggest to update to the final V2.0.3, Mooer released it couple of days ago. Some people reported the sound improved compared to the Beta version.

[@TaylorDanley]

I'm gonna wait a couple weeks. I heard it was pretty buggy? Either way, I'll get to it soon!

[@yaqubaxamee9146]

thanks for video man , i sold my line 6 pod hd 500x so which will be the upgrade ? 200 or 250? ,thank you .

[@DonHichot]

120$ - nux mg 300 150$ - ? 200$ - mooer ge 200, pod X3live, pod hd500 250$ - pod hd500x 300$ - none ? 400$ - none ? 450$ - mooer ge 300lite(bc tone capture)

[@cristianlib87]

Give us some rigs for the 250!great video!

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌

[@neoone1848]

I read it and thanks hi to your mom

[@Mega_trav]

GE250 v Ampero ?!

[@Ronny1031]

Both sound killer, but the 250 certainly has an edge. The sounds are just more defined and responsive, where the 200 sounds a bit flat in comparison. The new features and I/O are icing on the cake.

[@TaylorDanley]

The feature set really is what seals the deal I think. I still need to run it through its paces. So busy making other content I haven't had a chance to just sit down and play with it yet!

[@kuzWich]

F! Taylor WTF!!! This video is impossible to watch! I mean like literally- I only perceive THE RIFF!!! I’ve restarted the test 5(!) times and ended up writing this. First it gave me insomnia after your live stream, and now it’s here. AGAIN! No, seriously it’s absolutely flawlessly sick and as hooky as it can get. I guess I’m gonna have to learn it tomorrow, otherwise there’s no way to get it outta my head. It coooould make a great platform for some sort of subs’ collab imho. It’s not that hard to learn, seems fun to play and catchy. Imagine an edit where a bunch of people perform it in small parts (cuts) one after another. Well apparently everyone has to play it full and the Owner(haha) gets to ‘cut the cake’ of best parts. That would be Sooo cool !

[@TaylorDanley]

😂😂😂 thanks. 🤔 I'll keep that in mind. I want to see how quarantine riff goes before I do any other big collab vids. So far I have more submissions than I expected!

[@TheChugMonkey]

To my ears, the GE250 sounds more convincing. By quite a bit as well. This is now on my list.

[@danaowens30]

I opted for the G300synth my G. Its got way more bells and whistles💋💋💋💋

[@ytrezazerty1]

Hello... I read it....and I'm not the mom...

[@picksalot1]

It would be helpful to have some clean settings for comparison as well. Thanks

[@furiouzzzz]

what for ? who uses cleans?:D

[@TaylorDanley]

Even when I try and play with clean settings I feel like a fish out of water lol

[@wilhemheider]

it´s just me, or the 200 sounds better than the 250???

[@KPGuitarStudios]

Very cool. The global EQ light was on, you said you weren't going to turn it on, that could have made a big difference...? The 200 sounded like a cheap plastic knockoff compared to the 250. There was that fuzz and sizzle that is not as appealing. As other have said, Ampero vs GE250..... FIGHT! :)

[@TaylorDanley]

I know, I should have turned the light off... oversight. The Global EQ was bypassed when I reamped the guitars though. Yes, it would have a big impact, but what I hear between the 2 is the mids sound smoother and more glassy in the 250.

[@KPGuitarStudios]

@@TaylorDanley I had to point it out, I'm super anal like that :P. Agreed, it's certainly a warmer, less harsh, much more pleasing tone. Good stuff man!

[@hbomb495]

250 definitely has less fizz.

[@bonnyaraya2049]

Exactamente

[@joselunacrespo9454]

I have the GE200 and since I put the 2.0.3 update the sound has improved a lot, before that update I was not convinced, the sound was like digital, but now it sounds really good. What I would like to know is if the GE250 has better effects than the GE200. Compressor, Chorus, Flanger, are not good. Great video Taylor, although I saw it a little late.

[@michaelrock]

Wow I was not expecting that, I didn't think there was going to be so much difference

[@ugogemesio22]

I'd like to see about reverbs and delays...

[@Rithman]

250 seems to have better IR's

[@alexnwn]

they sound different but to my, don't know if better, i think i definitely don't enjoy the mooer voices

[@isaiascastro8821]

DUDE!!!

[@TaylorDanley]

BRO!

[@KK-hp5bl]

Bullshit just different Eq on presets.Just upload your own IR's on GE 200...the 300 maybe is better cause of Analog Devices Processor,but 700$ no way...👎

[@kow294]

uhmm.. i am not your mom. 😁

[@TaylorDanley]

😂🤷‍♂️

[@alanswanson7515]

They both sound comparable to my ancient Zoom 505

[@Tomario]

GE250 did sound better

[@collincassady]

Spiel mal acustic

[@iloveitall]

These full blown studio productions are good to sell stuff, but they just don't help us guitar players here. The sound is not what you get out of the box, even not with hours of tweaking. You're a faker, Taylor!

[@shirleyallen7960]

You must be really, really bored!

[@danaowens30]

💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤💯💯💯💯💯💯💯GE 300synth is the way to go get. I chose that bc its better bang for your buck