Shall we wipe Cuba off the Map? | The Cuban Missile Crisis I Day 01

On 16 October 1962, the Cuban Missile Crisis begins. President Kennedy assembles his advisors in EXCOMM to find an adequate response to the threat posed by Soviet nuclear missiles on Cuba.
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Hosted by: Indy Neidell
Written by: Spartacus Olsson
Director: Astrid Deinhard
Producers: Astrid Deinhard and Spartacus Olsson
Executive Producers: Astrid Deinhard, Indy Neidell, Spartacus Olsson, Bodo Rittenauer
Creative Producer: Joram Appel
Post-Production Director: Wieke Kapteijns
Research by: Spartacus Olsson
Edited by: Daniel Weiss
Sound design: Marek Kaminski
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[@TimeGhost]

This is the first of episodes following the Cuban Missile Crisis day-by-day. We'll be back tomorrow, and the day after that until the end of the crisis. All the episodes are already available to the TimeGhost Army on www.patreon.com/timeghosthistory or timeghost.tv. By joining us there you will also support the creation of these independent, realtime historical documentary series - how many more reasons do you need? Cheers, Joram . *RULES OF CONDUCT* STAY CIVIL AND POLITE we will delete any comments with personal insults, or attacks. AVOID PARTISAN POLITICS AS FAR AS YOU CAN we reserve the right to cut off vitriolic debates. HATE SPEECH IN ANY DIRECTION will lead to a ban. RACISM, XENOPHOBIA, OR SLAMMING OF MINORITIES will lead to an immediate ban. PARTISAN REVISIONISM, ESPECIALLY HOLOCAUST AND HOLODOMOR DENIAL will lead to an immediate ban. THE PROMOTION OF EXTREME, VIOLENT IDEOLOGIES IS ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN This includes the justification, or promotion of ideologies, regimes, and systems that have historically or are inherently contrary to the principles of democracy and human rights. To be clear some of these ideologies are Naziism, Fascism, Colonialism, Imperialism, Leninism, Stalinism, Revolutionary Socialism, Integral Nationalism and any other ideology that promotes authoritarianism, and a disregard for inalienable individual rights as outlined in the UDHR. Regimes that fall under this rule are for example: Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, the British Empire, Colonial France, pre-emancipation USA, Imperial Japan, Communist China, the USSR and any similar systems and regimes. While an academic discussion of these ideologies and regimes is permitted, even desired, any value statements or comparative posts to extoll their positive sides will be deleted, and may lead to a ban. . Here’s why: It is objectively true that the authoritarian regimes we cover in our series, be they far-left or far-right, were willing to use systematic oppression, violence, and murder to create or maintain their preferred system of governance. From the perspective of human rights, democracy, and plain decency, this is clearly unacceptable. Now, that is, of course, a morally absolute statement based on 21st-century morals and ethics. Therefore, in our content, we refrain from any such judgement and just tell the story as it is. We’re concerned only with the past. We don’t take sides, and we don’t decide which side deserves more blame than the other. Our comment section, however, is not taking place in the past. Our comments are made in the present-day, and political comments such as the ones we don’t allow are promoting a present-day agenda by whitewashing, diminishing, or even justifying the crimes of a past regime. We will not allow for such rhetoric in the same way most democratic European countries (where we create this content) won’t allow for such rhetoric. As historians, our very work depends on this so that we can continue interrogating the past free from political influence.

[@USSChicago-pl2fq]

Also during this time Finnish Fighter Pilots are being trained by Soviet pilots on the MiG-21 which have a vary humorous story about the Cuban Missile Crisis.

[@Oxnate]

The preview for the Pearl Harbor series did not appear for me. Link?

[@TimeGhost]

@@Oxnate here you go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGS8YmqOprR9mac

[@adilijaz8281]

you should also make this crisis video from soviet perspective.

[@El_Presidente_5337]

Drinking game without drinking: Everytime Indy says XCOM you miss a 100% shot.

[@DensApri]

Best comment!

[@AppleBiscuits]

XCOM, the only organization capable of making guided missiles miss the ground.

[@Exodon2020]

Viva el Presidente!

[@crimsonstrykr]

XCOM: Enemy unkno- wait wrong video

[@Lemonidas75]

EXCOMM Enemy known :p@@crimsonstrykr

[@unknownuser1502]

Everytime Indy mentions EXCOMM, i must think about XCOM and fighting aliens from outer space ...

[@emperorkarlfranzrulerofthe2826]

Same here haha

[@bmobmo6438]

Same here lmao

[@lilwyvern4]

It turns out the soviet threat was actually just a cover story for an alien invasion. It was a really small probing operation, though. Sectoids still die like chumps, after all.

[@Slash-XVI]

@@lilwyvern4 good thing the us forces were adviced to excercise restraint with their use of explosives.

[@unknownuser1502]

Hmm. Maybe the Sectoids and Thin Man are in reality just Gulagstarved KGB Agents and this whole Alieninvasionnarrative just an distraction

[@ScarecrowZP]

>Slowly drowsing off, cause tired. > Hears "X-COM" WOAH THERE

[@cosmicpaddlefish9748]

97% chance to avert nuclear holocaust. *misses*

[@merrbino]

WELCOME BACK, COMMANDER

[@rayx1679]

This is very interesting part of history, this crisis basically defined the 60's

[@ApplenatorIII]

U mean the world right????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[@WellBattle6]

My high school politics teacher would talk about watching TV overnight as a kid in Canada and wondering whether JFK was going to send the marines into Cuba and probably start the nuclear holocaust when the Soviet missile commanders in Cuba retaliate.

[@OptimusWombat]

Vietnam: hold my pho.

[@jamesjacocks6221]

Well, it was important but Kennedy's assassination, the Viet Nam conflict, civil rights, the Cold War in general; all were more important.

[@nicholasd7107]

Try Vietnam

[@creatoruser736]

There were also Thor missiles in the UK that could hit Russia. Those always seem to get overlooked, but they seem like they'd be more useful in a first strike since they could launch faster than the Jupiters.

[@lyndondowling2733]

Up to 60 Thor IRBM's at RAF bases under the joint control of the RAF and USAF. By means of the Joint Key Philosophy. Each able to deliver a One Megaton Warhead up to 1500 miles. Having to be Fueled before firing, this taking at least 15 mins, they could not be considered anything but a first strike Weapon.

[@gaelanmccann324]

Indy did mention the UK missiles in the first Cuba Missile Crisis series he made. There must be a reason for not mentioning them in the remake.

[@TimeGhost]

@@gaelanmccann324 he did mention them, even here in this episode.

[@francesconicoletti2547]

Gaelan McCann he’s taking verbatim quotes from the committee deliberations, it’s emphasis was Turkey. Everything else in Europe gets ‘and places like that’.

[@alfredfanshaw4786]

And the French?

[@RandomDudeOne]

A few years later the Soviets had submarines with SLBM's parked off the coasts of the U.S. making the need for land based missiles in Cuba irrelevant.

[@deankeys9719]

yeah but what if space marines came out and just dabbed on the virgin sub

[@JohnsDough1918]

@@deankeys9719 I doubt a bunch of small plastic toys would change much of anything, especially back when they didn't exist.

[@Inoffensive_name]

@@JohnsDough1918 Resin

[@kxkxkxkx]

Not if every single one of those Soviet subs had an American attack sub locked on ready to torpedo them the whole time ☝️

[@Daniel.F4514]

​@@kxkxkxkxdo you realize that subs until this day are virtually undetectable when they dive down right...The sea its just to big and detection tools are pretty limited on deep waters

[@DMS-pq8]

My dad was in the army in 62 and told me stories about sitting on the beach in Florida waiting for the go order that thank God was never given

[@richardlathrop61]

My Dad was attached to airborne units at Fort Bragg in 62. He helped pack equipment getting ready for the go order.

[@gianniverschueren870]

A pastel pink tie on an all-black suit? Yeah, this is nice. 4/5

[@hotspothawkins6453]

Reminds me of mad men

[@tompompom2299]

USA during cold war be like: Wtf why USSR is so paranoid? Also, USA: HOW DARE YOU PUT NUKE MISSILES AS CLOSE TO OUR BORDERS AS WE DID?

[@nationradical]

It’s all about perspective!

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

The USSR was paranoid because of 1919... that one time US troops (and friends) were in Russia... trying yo wipe out the USSR...

[@coolluckyme2007]

As a person who was born in USSR let me educate dumb westerners (that's what we were told and what many russian speaking people believe to this day, not me though), USSR was full of psychotic, irrational dumb people who could push the button. Got it?

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

@Chris_Wooden_Eye Depends really. Problem there is everyone including the Soviets were sick of the war...

[@deankeys9719]

dude are country is across a ocean from europe, sending troops is limited while stationing troops and weapons in advance is the only way we would ever win a hot war, the battlefield is not in America we made that clear in the 1800s, the ussr had the biggest army at that time the least we could do is destroy the ussr as much as they destroyed europe

[@HistoryHustle]

Great remake of this episode. Love the 007 kinda intro. Cheers!

[@yourstruly4817]

1962...when it looked like the World would have a very bright future ahead of it.

[@nunyobidniz]

😆 Paradoxically, that's some dark, dark humour 👍

[@doubledouble4g379]

Oh yeah, positively RADiant ;)

[@MrNicoJac]

Nuclear detonations are indeed very very bright 😆

[@MrTomkan]

MrNicoJac Nice Joke splaining

[@dylanmckenna4240]

This is criminally underviewed

[@victorbruant389]

If you are interested in alternate history, I recommend reading "When Angels Wept - A What If History of the Cuban Missile Crisis" by Eric G. Swedin. It starts with the weather being too bad for the U2 flight

[@eldaxeruskalocraw4213]

Oh, sounds interesting, I'll check it out, thanks!

[@victorbruant389]

@@eldaxeruskalocraw4213 You're welcome!

[@tadoshka5170]

What is that book about ?

[@victorbruant389]

@@tadoshka5170 About the Cuban Missile Crisis becoming a nuclear war.

[@thomasscream4179]

@@tadoshka5170 Its a lengthy treatise on the history of pineapple use in americanized international cuisine, with a few historical interludes, for example about the Cuban missile crisis' surprising influence on Hawaiian pizza quality, hence the title.

[@marks_sparks1]

5:37 "To eliminate the Cuban problem by actually eliminating the island". Or the world??

[@deankeys9719]

look at what indy been saying, we can do the first strike without the guarantee of mutual destruction

[@kamikazeabe-ru8735]

@@DuckoftheDraw Trump would´ve been like *fuck it, launch the nukes, murrica first!!!*

[@tommonk7651]

Maxwell Taylor and the joint chiefs of staff were absolute nuts.... They were tremendous warmongers. They were itching to fight the Soviets, regardless of the fault-out, literally. After his time in government, Dean Rusk became a law professor at the University of Georgia. A friend of mine was an undergraduate there at the time and went into to meet with Rusk. He told me later that Rusk was an unapologetic hawk when it came to Vietnam. He would never admit the war was a mistake.

[@Dreagostini]

USA: Let's put some nukes in the USSR's neighbourhood. USSAR: Let's put some nukes in the USA's neighbourhood. USA: Wait, that's illegal.

[@marianotorrespico2975]

Correct.

[@chaosXP3RT]

As an American, it seems fair to me that we have nukes in their neighborhood and they don't in ours

[@Dreagostini]

@@chaosXP3RT that's why you're a hypocrit.

[@kamikazeabe-ru8735]

There are no good guys, it´s about who´s got the bigger $%&k and US had the bigger one

[@Dreagostini]

@@kamikazeabe-ru8735 Doesn't mean they are allowed to be a bully.

[@yorick6035]

I think I watched this series atleast 10 times, but yet again I'm hooked and I'm excited to see how this crazy rollercoaster will play out. Thanks for this incredible remake, gunfingers!

[@yorick6035]

@L1nos They wanted to improve the quality to match their current high standards for their videos. When they first made this series they were just 3 people without the current budget, team and archives. Same reason they redid the first 14 eisodes of World War Two

[@7bombarie]

Great to have original audio recordings from these meetings! That makes it the perfect time to release this series on the Cuban Missile Crisis!

[@Dustz92]

I must admit, I miss that 50s progression guitar music

[@crazymaniac3000]

I know...KNOW you guys are talking about EXCOMM...so will my brain stop thinking XCOM and being distracted by alien invasion. Oh well...Thanks for doing this guys!

[@MrMenefrego1]

I love the Lava Lamp touch! But, I kinda doubt if too many folks owned them; other than those, "Dirty Hippies", (as they were commonly called when I was a boy in the '60's). The first lava lamp came to the mass-market in 1963. The “Astro” and “Astro Baby” were the first two lava lamps launched in 1963 and 1964 respectively. They were an instant hit and became one of the defining products of the 'Groovy', 'Hip-n-Happening', 'Psychedelic' and 'Far-out' 1960's. The Lava Lamp was initially invented in 1948 by an English accountant and sometime inventor named, Edward C. Walker. He was inspired by an egg timer in a pub bubbling on a stove top. The "Astro" lava lamp was launched in 1963 and celebrated its 50th anniversary in 2013, thankfully the fine ole English company is still in business, making the finest Lava Lamps in existence!

[@nippy3276]

Could you keep hosting these? You are really good at it and in my humble opinion the best at it.

[@Southsideindy]

I have no plans to stop.

[@TimeGhost]

@@Southsideindy I think he's saying you and only you should host all of our shows... that's a no though - we don't want to wear Indy down to a wreck.

[@richardross7219]

I remember this well. Everybody was very nervous. Souvenirs of WWII came out of storage and made ready. My father(a WWII vet) set up a fallout shelter in our basement. A neighbor, had an underground bomb shelter installed in his yard. Many families stockpiled canned food in their basements. A good story about a fallout shelter is in the original Twilight Zone Series. I think that the episode is called "The Shelter". Good Luck, Rick

[@Charlie-ii5rr]

I remember the Cuban missile crisis. This series is pure gold.

[@TotallyNotRedneckYall]

So this is why the middle school I attended had bomb shelters in the basement. (That's where we had shop class. Nothings muffles a bandsaw like two feet of concrete 🤣)

[@oneofmanyjames-es1643]

Shall we wipe Cuba off the Map? Nah, that sounds like a pain in the ass for the cartographers

[@BenjaminDeutsch-xd1yh]

This is a really cool channel because of all the vintage topics that you cover in such great detail, brought home with an aesthetic that is very fitting. Well done. This is also a great bridge between generations for all of us. We are born in the early 80s and find studying this period to be fundamental.

[@brookeshenfield7156]

Excellent work. Well researched and impeccably present by Indy. Mahalo for your work.

[@m.s.b.8929]

Time ghost is awesome!!!

[@FriedrichHerschel]

Wow. I just watched Day 0 and subscribed ... and 5 minutes later there's Day 1.

[@theophileburtz1624]

such a great anecdote about Berlin! Studying IR and having read Berlin puts everything into motion. I'm totally up for further coversation about this

[@shrihithtalapaneni9227]

My goodness, Rusk says more ums than when I don't know the answer to a question at school.

Rusk?

[@JDB1878]

As an aside gotta say, the drinks spread in the back, damn fine stuff sir.

[@markandaimeelou]

I’m very impressed with this gentleman’s communication/narration skills. Content very interesting also.

[@buick1955]

Very good program . It's make's the movie Dr. Strangelove all fall into place . Mr. President ! We must not allow a mineshaft gap ! Scary time in our history .

[@TimeGhost]

Thank you for your support!!

[@birchlawpa]

Outstanding job as usual. I wish I would've discovered this after all the episodes were poste, so I could binge watch them. Oh well. Watching them this way will give a more realistic feel of how things happened in real time. This was a couple of years before my time (but not by much).

[@davidhuber9418]

it was a mess, thank you Indy!

[@exohead1]

Really digging the la a lamps

[@driesvdc2]

Nail-biting suspense, despite knowing how this ends

[@Chilly_Billy]

Please do a series on the Bay of Pigs fiasco that played such an important part in the later Missile Crisis. You guys would do it justice.

[@TimeGhost]

Maybe one day but we're pretty swamped right now! Have you seen our new series on Suez?

[@goneham4015]

Great episode. Sure hope they manage to prevent avoid nuclear holocaust

[@jmitterii2]

No, I want them to pull the trigger and blow up the entire world. Then have Indy explain how the case is that we're all here. Get into some weird causal reality splitting into different pieces to which we can observe all possible eventualities... something that makes us think he's been dipping into the absinthe during his social distancing. He can get into it, with his gestures flipping over in his desk, really screaming about whatever, and at some point tipped over at his desk feet in the air he starts using his feet as feet puppets. Getting to a climax of whatever, screaming and quick gestures, he pauses... pops up from the desk in some insane outfit as he passes through many probabilities of himself... one as a cross dresser, another as a beach bum living in Hawaii, another as a hippy of the 60's, another as a business tycoon with a monocle gone coke addict, etc. until BOOOM BAMM... Indy Neidell here, your host on Time Gost, and you the viewer, and this how we came to be here in this year 2020! Thank you all, all of us together for taking that ride down the history of histories! But the twist... are we really back to our original reality, the one that we enjoyed before he told us about the causal refraction splits after the Cuban Missile Crisis? As any acknowledgement and demonstration of such a causal split, as Indy will have explained, alters the causal reality you are in, shifting it to a different one... in the background a cage with what looks like a parrot, but on the bird's body is Spartacus's head to which he smiles and gives a wink and with his normal human voice asks: "Polly want a cracker?"

[@theosemenenko5424]

i have alredy said this on another video but can you make a six days war day by day thing? it will be shorter than this day by day and it would be very interesting. Love from sweden!

[@ahmadtheIED]

I came here after binging the entire WW2 week-by-week (up to what's available till the time of this posting), and I was not disappointed.

[@robotslug]

I am very excited for this series, bell is ON.

[@TimeGhost]

We love to hear it!

[@chrissanchez9935]

I like the quote you said on slide 2:30. Thank You for video presentation.

[@rickkubik5484]

I love this series! I was a simple little grade-2 kid in those days. We all played war, and actively wanted to crush those dirty Commies - OMG we were stupid. That's the world we grew up in, which kind of makes me smile when people talk about the good old days of the 1960s.

[@jamesjacocks6221]

Well, folks still had a future in 1960 but a series of miscalculations by our government cost us a war and gave us the nudge over the edge. More was accomplished in 1965 alone than has been done since in regard to civil rights.

[@itinerantpatriot1196]

Interesting subject. I look forward to seeing how you cover the remaining days. That said, there are a few points that need to be addressed. Bobby Kennedy wasn't put in charge of Mongoose only a few days before the crisis began. He had been in charge of the "Get Castro" movement within the executive branch since writing the post-mortem on the Bay of Pigs with Maxwell Taylor and Allen Dulles in 61. By October 62 he was maniacal on the matter, pushing Bill Harvey, who was running the covert stuff going on in Cuba, and Richard Helm who had taken over special operations from Richard Bissel that year to the breaking point. It was his habit of going around the CIA's formal channel's and making a lot of noise on the island in support of his brother's insistence that something be done about Castro that led to the crisis in the first place. John McCone had good intel and was trying to warn them about missiles in Cuba for months but the Kennedy's thought they knew better. And there wasn't a great deal of tension between Maxwell Taylor and the Kennedy's. Bobby Kennedy named one of his kids after him and he was godfather to another. He was also one of the primary drivers of Flexible Response, and Counter-Insurgency, two of the bedrocks of Kennedy's foreign policy and Cold War strategy. he was considered more of an egghead and theorist by his military colleagues than a hawk. That's not to say he wasn't a soldier, but he wasn't cut from the same cloth as someone like Curtis LeMay.

[@CivilWarWeekByWeek]

If you wipe Cuba off the map than how are you going to know where to fire your missiles?

[@randomalien7746]

*then

[@randylucas2458]

5:50 eliminating the island... damn

[@OleGimletEye]

My artillery battery from California landed in Cuba (GTMO) by jet October 22nd 1962. After the Crisis was over we were a block distance from the ocean (windmill beach), and most of November we were swimming, skindiving and spear fishing. I had no idea at the time how bad the missile crisis was, but the Caribbean vacation at tax payer expense was one of the two best times I experienced in the Marines - Okinawa, Japan was the other (two tours). We landed in GTMO just days before the Bay of Pigs crisis was officially over and we were awarded the Marine Corps Expeditionary medal for the Bay of Pigs 👍, and the Armed Forces Expeditionary medal for the Cuban Missile Crises 🚀 USMC 1960-65 SEMPERS

[@TimeGhost]

Thanks for sharing Willie, that's a pretty momentous part of history you experienced.

[@Eienias]

oh i didn't know about those declassified meetings. that's fascinating i finally caught up on ww2 week by week (absolutely fantastic) been wanting to watch this series while i workout, its good, to be expected!

[@highfight001]

One of the best channels on KZbin!

[@TimeGhost]

Thanks!! Spread the word far and wide, we're gonna keep getting bigger baby!

[@M4ruta]

I like the brutal logic of "there can be no Cuban Missile Crisis if there is no Cuba". Then again, if you call yourself XCOM you are in serious danger of missing a 99% chance, so there are practical as well as ethical issues to be considered here.

[@meteoman7958]

Thanks, TGH.

[@TimeGhost]

Thanks, MeteoMan

[@mrclaudio8197]

Imagining the current US President and cabinet talking about a crisis of this magnitude...

[@Macieks300]

Is this series going to be from the American point of view all the time? Or was noting interesting going on in the Central Committee today? Or maybe we don't have sources that tell what was going on in the Soviet Union leadership?

[@JLaneboy5]

I believe they addressed this the first time they made this series. The biggest issue is getting the information from Russia. It helps that everything is supposed to be declassified after 50 years in the US so all the secret Kennedy recordings and all the documents around this are public now.

[@Southsideindy]

You will get other perspectives. We have plenty of time.

[@therocketboost]

That's EXCOMM baby!

[@pathegarty4757]

Good channel, great commentary. 👍

[@TimeGhost]

Thanks!

[@tomjustis7237]

On 16 October 1962, the Cuban Missile Crisis begins. On 16 October 1962, I celebrated my 11th birthday, and it is sad to say that due to the world situation at the time, even at that young age, I wondered if I would live to see another birthday. After all, this was a time when even elementary schools were teaching the (useless) 'duck and cover' technique as a survival tactic in the event of nuclear war. I may not tell this well, but please bear with me. One of my older brothers was in the Ohio National Guard at that time, and at one point during this period he was away with friends for the weekend. I remember it was a Saturday morning and mom and dad were still in bed, sleeping in as normal for the weekend, while I was up getting ready to watch the Saturday morning cartoons which were a staple at the time. The phone rang, I answered it, and a very official voice told me he was calling to advise Specialist Justis (my older brother) that his unit was on alert and he should report for duty immediately. Not knowing what to say, I told him to hold on and ran upstairs, woke up my parents and told them about the call. Mom jumped out of bed and ran downstairs to take the call while dad jumped up and grabbed his robe. I remember asking dad, "Does this mean we're at war?" and dad saying, "I hope not, son, I hope not." I cannot describe how I felt. I will just say this; several years later I enlisted in the Marine Corps and served a combat tour in Vietnam. During that combat tour there were times I freely admit I was scared shitless, but I have to say I have never been so frightened in my entire life as I was on that Saturday morning when I answered that phone. I can only hope that mankind may someday progress to the point that no child ever again has to feel that level of fear.

[@birchlawpa]

Thank you and your brother for your service, Sir.

[@mhick3333]

Still remember the duck and cover drills in elementary school

[@Willy-nu3oc]

Imagine if Mr. Indy narrated your life.

[@nunyobidniz]

Well it never occurred to me to imagine that before, and now I'm glad I have. Thanks, Willy👍

[@yourstruly4817]

That would be a pretty boring episode

[@jtmcnasty]

Awesome job

[@mynameisntpatrick1476]

I love this set

[@hollywoodjkw]

I drink a sip of my beer every time Indy says missaisles..

[@facina3390]

Glad to see that you're healthy, sir! No doubt the spirit of the khukuris that you keep, scared the holy hell out of the virus!

[@michagorka3789]

What was the point of my education if KZbin creators do it all better then school several years later?

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

Then clearly you did your education wrong...

[@rickkubik5484]

I agree - had the very same thoughts

[@nunyobidniz]

Or somebody else (teachers, parents, school boards...)

[@lyndondowling2733]

Up to 60 Thor IRBM's at RAF bases under the joint control of the RAF and USAF. By means of the Joint Key Philosophy. Each able to deliver a One Megaton Warhead up to 1500 miles. Having to be Fueled before firing, this taking at least 15 mins, they could not be considered anything but a first strike Weapon.

[@CurtisEFlush5962]

What an era...

[@deoglemnaco7025]

I once was in a very similar situation with my neighbor.

[@bobkitchin8346]

Every once in a while, reality follows fiction all to closely. Case in point, the Oct 13, 1962 edition of the Saturday Evening Post featured the first installment of "Fail Safe". Its cover of B-58's over Moscow still sends chills down my spine.

[@jamesvernonjenningsthevide9253]

This turned out to be a fiasco for Soviet leader Nikita Krushchev, who was forced into political retirement two years later.

[@lyndondowling2733]

Because Nikkita negotiated away the Missiles in Cuba... But he got the USA to remove the Missiles in Turkey (Italy? ) and the UK. This ending of the Crisis is always told as a USA Victory... but in essence, the USA was forced to make The Nuclear balance of power once more just that... a balance of power.

[@brucetucker4847]

@@lyndondowling2733 You can only paint it as a balance if you ignore the massive Soviet advantage in conventional armaments and soldiers.

[@BigBoss-sm9xj]

Good stuff

[@rickkubik5484]

One teeny comment: your red lava-lamp works great, but the green one does nothing. Fix it? Also, loved the sight of your Siamese cat in the background of one of the episodes

[@TimeGhost]

Th transformer tanked as we started shooting... it will sadly stay dormant through the 13 days...

[@pegzounet]

"Cuban problem, eliminate the island". That gave shivers

[@dawnpalmby5100]

As a Canadian who learned almost nothing about the Cuban missile crisis in school, I'm blown away!! All the propaganda hurts my head, what a mess.

[@nav_101]

The soviets responded by deploying nuclear missiles in Cuba because the US deployed nuclear missiles in Turkey and Italy and much of Western Europe.

[@brucetucker4847]

Completely ignoring the larger strategic context of those deployments, which was to deter the Soviets from launching an invasion with their massively greater conventional forces in Europe. The US did not have a corresponding conventional threat to the Soviets or their empire. The US had thoroughly disarmed following WW2 and the USSR had not; after the pattern of Soviet aggression culminating in the Korean War the US response was to look to its nuclear arsenal to deter the Soviets from launching any further conventional wars.

[@mariolopera1546]

Neil, where the audios of the excomm meetings declassified in 2020 could be found, thanks a lot.

[@adaw2d3222]

1:44 AYYLMAO

[@SuperLusername]

I have the power of making you search for a specific video if you have seen a certain meme. Which meme? This one: USSR: *puts nuclear missiles in Cuba* USA: "OMG take it out!!!"

[@bellybutton3623]

What's wrong with the green lamp? :c

[@cartman1363]

Like I don’t get it, isn’t it in the two superpowers self interest not to blow the world up. Couldn’t they both mutually agree not to end humanity, like that seems like the logical, rational and enlightened thing to do, do these people really want to end themselves? I might seem naive, but i seriously don’t get it.

[@brucetucker4847]

Have you considered the possibility that the situation might possibly, maybe be slightly more complex than that analysis allows for?

[@Aubury]

The gall of the USA, in so far as its missiles, directed at the USSR from other countries, somehow were not applicable. Living through this crisis, as a school boy, much of it went over my head. Now looking back, this period was a close run thing.

[@doubledouble4g379]

I REALLY want that intro music for a ringtone :)

[@TimeGhost]

Cold Eyes - Elliot Holmes ;)

[@doubledouble4g379]

@@TimeGhost Thanks so much! Excellent content, btw :)

[@caelroighblunt1956]

Now this is history.

[@andrewdurand339]

Anastas Mikoyan was the last Soviet from the Bolshevik era still in government then.

[@tymgamerz]

During he Cuban Missile Crisis, President Kennedy ordered two scout pilots to scout the Soviet army, and ordered them to not get shot at, or he would fire nuclear weapons. When the scouts returned, the president asked if they got shot, to which they replied yes. The news dropped like a bombshell.

[@tymgamerz]

i got this from reddit dont report me for plagarism

[@anuvisraa5786]

vilating the air space of another nation and be angri because they shot you

[@tymgamerz]

@@anuvisraa5786 the japanese have experience in that :/

[@mattweihl]

See also: Sparrows scene from Thirteen Days "Son, I wanna know just one thing. Those bastards shoot so much as a BB gun at you?"

[@nicotheprotogen3832]

HOT DAMN FINALLY THE EPISODE IM WAITING FOR IS HERE AND GOD DAMN THAT'S A REALLY GOOD INTRO I like the music on the intro what's the name?

[@TimeGhost]

Cold Eyes - Elliot Holmes

[@ALPHONSE2501]

How ready the Soviet missiles in Cuba when Kennedy find out they are there?

[@philp8872]

I think the options the XCOM considers lack a lot of aggressiveness. I have a feeeling the US will loose on this in the next few days unless they find a man like Hötzendorf to get the job done!

[@SRJax]

Weren't Dean Acheson and Adalai Stevenson also members of the group?

[@thebrazilianhistorian6530]

Maxwell D. Taylor *looks at Netherlands* Where did i hear this time name before...

[@johnrettig1880]

Yea I'm pretty sure that this is about the time that my Dad dissapiers for a while .

[@MH-fb5kr]

18 years old, in Army basic training, see orders posted for my next duty… jungle ware fare school in Florida, shit my pants… about half the company went AWOL.

[@aidangrice9380]

Very interesting stuff. Quick question, are your videos getting monitised? Keep seeing ads so I assume so

[@TimeGhost]

A few videos yes, but it's basically a roll of the dice. Without our support from the TimeGhost Army on Patreon none of this would be possible. www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory

[@chancebelcher7163]

i was a young lad back then. i still went to school, my dad still went to work, my mom still kept the household. life went on, distinctly not gripped in fear.

[@mediocre-wettowel2007]

USA: *sends missiles to turkey* Soviet Union:*sends missiles to cuba* USA: (;´༎ຶٹ༎ຶ`)

[@TodayLifeIsGoood]

*Sweat of deathly terror intensifies*

[@gedeon2696]

What or who gave the US the right top place missiles next to another country's border but deny the identical right to that country ??

[@brucetucker4847]

It's not a matter of "right," it's a matter of strategic balance. And Stephen Jenkins' post above has it right: the US nuclear deterrent was a response to continued Soviet aggression backed a massive conventional military far beyond anything the west possessed, while the effect (both intended and practical) of the Soviet deployment of missiles in Cuba was to upset that balance and give the USSR the ability to use its massive conventional forces to bully the west without fear of retaliation.

[@indianajones4321]

People who were in Berlin during the Berlin Airlift: Here we go again