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@RubyRuthM4 жыл бұрын
Wow this is awesome!
@EdenHussain174 жыл бұрын
What new things has your holy spirit thought you in the last 2000y? Precisely nothing!!!!!. (Jon 3 16 is a fabrication) not found in modern RSV Bible.
@EdenHussain174 жыл бұрын
@@Nunquam Non Paratus .poiness talking to mindless idiots!
@EdenHussain174 жыл бұрын
@Nunquam Non Paratus ❤️ sorry.
@jesussaves18754 жыл бұрын
You really should fact check before you try to make "historical" references (or upload this junk)
@SamonMarquis4 жыл бұрын
I'm astounded by the amount of information that is available about a person who lived 2000 years ago, but yet, I have barely idea what my grandpa had been up to, a mere 60 years ago.
@EwaldDieser4 жыл бұрын
I suppose your grandpa was not a king.
@jassiahjazzhova98473 жыл бұрын
@@EwaldDieser 😆
@briza20223 жыл бұрын
Cause it must have been horrendous to be so remarked in history.
@PhillipOnWater3 жыл бұрын
That may just be because your grandpa wasn't famous. Herod was a king, he knew Mark Antony...
@imyourcuzn19973 жыл бұрын
You can change all of that.. From now onwards record your own history so your descendants would know what you got up to
@MaryRosebud3 жыл бұрын
I’ve looked up Herod’s life in my own copy of Josephus. Herod was a man with no respect for the Jewish God. When Herod set out to kill the baby Jesus, he was worried about losing his throne and authority. So much so that he took the lives of a couple of his sons to prevent them from taking the throne from him. Herod was fearful to the point of paranoia. Cruel to the point of heartlessness. Herod meant everything to himself. He loved no other.
@pamelaadam92073 жыл бұрын
He was a puppet king of his time
@mohawksteel22153 жыл бұрын
Herod was filled with Satan I believe and of course Satan made every attempt to kill of Jesus. Killing 100's of babies to reach Jesus would be of no concern to achieve the desired act. Thank God it failed as Jesus lived to accomplish His mission.
@julianciahaconsulting86633 жыл бұрын
Herod never sent people to kill jesus - that is nothing but christian fiction. Odd that for having no respect for the "jewish god" that Herod built the 2nd Temple for that god...and Josephus never mentioned Jesus either - that has been proven to be a 4th century fraudulent addition to Josephus' original writings
@katherinebruce5003 жыл бұрын
You're right and Josephus was/is the go to historian for this era. Herod was also Idumean (descendant of Esau) and not of the tribe of Judah or Benjamin. A evil man indeed.
@katherinebruce5003 жыл бұрын
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 Satan? Is that you?
@frankG3353 жыл бұрын
"Herod acted decisively. He fled." Hahaha!
@archravenineteenseventeen3 жыл бұрын
The first Philippines president did that too haha
@aaroncrutcher59574 ай бұрын
Thank you Jesus 💖🙏
@lelandkinsella73803 жыл бұрын
The Disciple Mathew had no reason to lie about Herod murdering babies......nor did Mathew have anything to gain from a lie like that. Plus Herod was exactly the kind of guy to carry out a horrific act like that!
@julianciahaconsulting86633 жыл бұрын
sure he did ...to make Jesus fulfill Old Testament prophecy of things the Messiah would have happen
@thomaspick41233 жыл бұрын
This documentary is made by Jesus haters. They hate Jesus and say bad things about Him. They demanded Jesus, an innocent man, to be murdered. The Jews repeatedly cried out to Pontius Pilate, “Crucify Him, Crucify Him!” Pilate wanted to let Jesus go free, but the Jews kept saying, “Crucify Him, Crucify Him!” To prevent a Jewish riot, Pilate allowed the Jews to take Jesus away and had the Roman soldiers commit the act of murdering the Son of God. The Jews passed by Jesus and mocked Him, as He was dying on the cross.
@KeepingWatch953 жыл бұрын
@@thomaspick4123 _Jesus was a Jew. Jesus was crucified under the authority of Pontius Pilate, whose authority was under Casear the Pontifus Maximus._ *_Ultimately Jesus was crucified under the authority of the Pontifus Maximus._* Matthew 7:16 KJV ... Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
@lelandkinsella73803 жыл бұрын
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 Two questions: Do you believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah? Which prophecy do you believe was fulfilled when Herod was said to have murdered babies?
@LebanonSam19693 жыл бұрын
The Disciple Mathew is not the author of Mathew's bible. The Author of Mathew's Bible is Unknown so therefor lies and contradictions can be found there.
@starfighter10433 жыл бұрын
I bet you 2k years ago herod didn't think people would know him and his actions and were listening and watching it on a device they had no idea about...its crazy to hear stories from so long ago in the modern era like these people did not realize theyvwould go down in history
@clearvisionsecret89523 жыл бұрын
Imagine back than and how it plays into history moving forward
@straya48373 жыл бұрын
@SAMMY JONES and as the only FELLOW black people where the only person another black person has to fear is another black person, or per head of capita......most unborn babies have to fear is being aborted by their own mothers & if born unfortunately abandoned by their fathers ( baby daddies ). But, yeah......Abrahamic faiths were / are especially in all era's ( concerning Mohammedians ) so bloodthirsty, but so were the the kin/ fellow blacks of the trans atlantic slave trade,.bloodthirsty & their love of money notorious. Dont be a hypocritical, race card carrying, victimhood slay to yourself. ALL people of all nations have been enslaved ( the word comes from the enslaved Slavics ) but it has been going on since year dot. Only blacks love calling themselves out as the most oppressed people & it is just absurd that more blacks die at the hands/ knives/ guns than all the American slaves put togeether Im Irish & under the english have endured much, but we are silent( mostly)& we dont murder eachother at astonishing rates & we don't have any disingenuous race baiter making millions & pumping it ALL into properly right next door to those savage white people & as of yet refuse to show how much bang you got for all those bucks they made. Good luck with the ignorant plight & stop being a racist that lectures on racism. We cant change the past, but we have good odds on changing all our futures if we drop the ' woe is me & EVERYONE owes me attitudes'then you can take some responsibility for yourself.
@TzarTsar3 жыл бұрын
Like Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
@siriusfox1952 жыл бұрын
I wanna see this Sammy Jones comment.. lol
@davidfrisken1617 Жыл бұрын
Some have been lost to history. It is luck. Josephus was working from hearsay from this period.
@blacknative28553 жыл бұрын
I love this documentary on king Herod. I've read that it was safer to be one of his dogs than one of his sons in line for the throne.
@Chungus5812 жыл бұрын
Octavian said that it was safer to be one of his pigs than one of his sons because Herod, being a Jew, wouldn’t kill a pig but showed he was fine murdering his sons
@slavoisheir41292 жыл бұрын
Ok ok I must now believe that in one way or the Other Krishna is Jesus Because in both cases there was a tyrant king who wanted to kill all male babues
@blacknative28552 жыл бұрын
This happens so often when a great child is to be born going back to mose and the Pharaoh in Egypt.
@dinawink68182 жыл бұрын
@@Chungus581 Herod was not of Jewish decent.
@lilTULER2 жыл бұрын
@@Chungus581 herod wasn't a jew though... he was Arab
@davidburns34803 жыл бұрын
what a shame that the actually engineers - architects - builders names are forgotten - the men who actually had to bring herod's dreams to life
@maxgrind4383 жыл бұрын
Yes and what is worst their masterfull skilled technique is also lost.
@gothboschincarnate39313 жыл бұрын
its not lost...you just dont know how to access it...still wouldn't be easy...but it could be done...
@paulneilson61173 жыл бұрын
@@gothboschincarnate3931 good point bro. Kashicrecords
@gothboschincarnate39313 жыл бұрын
@@paulneilson6117 My idea of finding the names would be rather unconventional. If the names are lost to history. You could have a channeler try to locate the names of those individuals, find out who they are in this lifetime and some do regressive hypnotherapy. lol ...wouldn't be the easiest thing. but i might just work.
@gothboschincarnate39313 жыл бұрын
@@paulneilson6117 if someone could access the akashic records...that would work too...now your thinking!
@margomoore45278 ай бұрын
I’m impressed by the actor portraying Herod. No spoken lines that were aired, just the visuals. He certainly had the right look, and carried out the portrayal very believably.
@jaybee12485 жыл бұрын
I find it odd that a king who killed his own wife and three children because of his paranoia and perceived threats to his power and authority would not kill all the children 2 years of age and under after being told the next king of Israel had been born in Jerusalem.
@_TLC3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@lovelydianna59303 жыл бұрын
What about Joe who was NOT elected but installed by the CCP who pretends to be Christian but has no problem killing Americans adults & children to bring about NWO. Its biblical
@pjstatenisland15753 жыл бұрын
There may not have been 100s of babies killed, perhaps only 20 or so under the age of 2 in Berhlehem at that time. Perhaps that is why Josephus did not think it significant, or didn't know about it?
@_TLC3 жыл бұрын
@@lovelydianna5930 are you a none player character or something
@sidmeyer20113 жыл бұрын
Bethlehem was not a large city. It is certainly likely that there were not large numbers of boys age two and under in the town. When documenting a king who went on major killing sprees, to Josephus the killing of a relatively small number of children may have seemed not worth mentioning. It was just another thing, and his murderous acts were better illustrated by other instances.
@tired19233 жыл бұрын
Masada is even more impressive than it is described as, it is not merely on the edge of a cliff but on top of a deserted high plateau. To build the fortress, equipment, materials, food, and water had to be carried up, and they also dug deep into the mountain to create water cisterns. I’m not sure how true it is, but I remember the guide saying that when Erod visited Masada it would day 3 days for his party just to climb up the narrow ramp carved along the cliff side.
@delphinidin6 жыл бұрын
The casting... Young Herod: GORGEOUS Old Herod: HORRIFYING
@ALSILVERU26 жыл бұрын
Young gorgeous men do age hideously. Throughout time
@djwalruss48975 жыл бұрын
@@ALSILVERU2 same goes for women
@DavidCrossman13 жыл бұрын
Herod was, indeed, a visionary builder. That much of his work remains to this day attests to that. He was also an intriguer, a conniver, a tyrant, a manipulator and a man who did not hesitate to wield absolute power ruthlessly and precipitately. These traits, combined with the obsessive paranoia of a king who imagined his crown constantly in peril, prompted the horrific acts Josephus presents in such graphic detail and which form a chronicle of madness. Josephus relates that, after he took the throne, Herod killed over 13,000 individuals in retribution for their opposition. He then murdered all but one of the Sanhedrin. He had no regard for the thousands of slaves whose lives were lost in his grand building schemes. He killed wives, sons, relatives, and anyone he perceived as a threat. Why, then, I wonder, does this documentary, serve as apologist for him relative to the slaughter of the innocents, which seems perfectly consistent with his character? Several facts attest to its likelihood, not least of which is that Herod, who was always sensitive to threats to his power would have been doubly so regarding the King that Scripture prophesied. His murder of those under two years old wasn't arbitrary, it was carefully considered: if alive, and living in or near Bethlehem, the child would be under two years old; therefore the politically expedient thing to do is eliminate all male children under that age. Bloody, yes, but politically expedient. (By the way, your documentary mentions 'thousands' of children were killed in this pogrom. Very unlikely, given that the population of Bethlehem was about 300 at the time. Also, the narration says there were 'three wise men'. There is no such mention in the Bible.) As for neither Josephus or Luke mentioning the event, Josephus may have been prolific, but I doubt he'd have had the time to provide a comprehensive catalog of Herod's atrocities. As for Luke, given that the story had been related in Matthew just a year or two before he wrote his account, why would he feel compelled to reiterate it? He spent much of his time researching Mark and providing greater detail to that particular account. In all, while the documentary is entertaining, it doesn't reflect sound scholarship, or even sound logic, but it does suggest an animus toward the Biblical account and, again, I wonder why?
@carlbodene81503 жыл бұрын
Matthew 2:16 slew all the children, that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof. From the Mediterranean to the Dead Sea. That would comprise slot of children and much mourning.
@alexanderespada88713 жыл бұрын
Very well said, Mr. Crossman!
@alexanderespada88713 жыл бұрын
@@carlbodene8150 The "coasts thereof" in that verse just means the "borders" of Bethlehem, the adjacent villages around that small town.
@timur-i-lenk55263 жыл бұрын
@David Crossman Quite simple: those "woke" rewriters of history nourish the inner desire that Herod had succeeded in eliminating Jesus of Nazareth. With the same respect for logic and scholarship, Arafat and his heirs claim(ed) that a Jewish Temple in Jerusalem never existed.
@terracottaneemtree66973 жыл бұрын
I wish I could share what you said on my blog. I will direct the ones who may read it to your comment. Thank you.
@kenantahir5 жыл бұрын
we read about these kings and things they did but we forget they were actual people with everyday lives ... the adventures they lived and the deadly game of power they played
@bernadettevanderploeg95513 жыл бұрын
yes, nothing changed!!
@petermihacerar11373 жыл бұрын
@@bernadettevanderploeg9551 individual does not exidt
@aswad13713 жыл бұрын
Just another guy.
@williamyoung94012 жыл бұрын
...and the monuments they ordered in their name while thousands of slaves built it and dozens of engineers made their mad dreams reality, while they sat and ate grapes and drank wine...
@schillaci50505 жыл бұрын
If Herod can kill his own children.......... why would Matthew lie?
@albehoe23273 жыл бұрын
In the same way people exaggerate the things they hear. Herod was a capable administrator, but the Jews hate him because of their racial prejudices mandated by their holy book.
@tp12013 жыл бұрын
Yup! He's more than likely guilty! Evil to the core.
@rayramos84353 жыл бұрын
You do understand that the disciple named Matthew was not the writer of the Gospel named Matthew? Later writers would often attribute writings to historical characters to give them more weight. Seriously,read a book.
@velvetunderpants443 жыл бұрын
Maybe it wasn't a conscious lie. He wrote it almost 100 years after the alleged death of Jesus, so everything he wrote was anecdotal
@sojrnrr83683 жыл бұрын
Matithyahu is not the one who lied. Justinian 2 hated his witness because it was written in "Hebrew". They need to discredit our witnesses. They do so by relabeling us by their 200 year old self-identification; but we are and have always been Yahudah/Ysrael.
@jet6874 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought this was going to help me sleep. I was wrong.
@SecondTake1233 жыл бұрын
😂
@mangot5893 жыл бұрын
That’s the problem with listening to docs to sleep lol. At least it helps with ruminating!😉
@kathrynmckelvy253 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dgetzin5 жыл бұрын
11:15 Aaaand that’s a painting of Constantine at the battle of the Milvian bridge.
@Anna-qv9ne4 жыл бұрын
Thanks🍊
@verticallogic59095 жыл бұрын
interesting documentary that portrays Herod as capable of any outrage but the murder of the children. Odd conclusion to say the least.......i think i'll accept Matthew's account......
@terry41375 жыл бұрын
vertical logic, they are still killing babies in 2019!
@verticallogic59095 жыл бұрын
@@terry4137 ...who are ??
@jesusislord70215 жыл бұрын
I was JUST about to state the same...he was a senile paranoid lunatic toward his throne....but we doubt if he killed the children....but he kills his own children
@veseyvonveitinghof70885 жыл бұрын
@Zz Z .....it's true about abortion but has nothing to do with this documentary........ Your second thought is'nt logical. If the Almighty can create all things then He certainly has the ability to ensure that His word reaches us today accurately. His message is for us too and for it to be understood by us, it must be accurate. Have faith in Him to provide us with accurate knowledge......
@veseyvonveitinghof70885 жыл бұрын
@Zz Z .....there are no contradictions in God's word, just reader's misunderstanding.....
@ScriptureUnbroken5 жыл бұрын
Herod killed ALL the children under two years of age not just the males; *Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.* Matt 2:16
@nikkid48905 жыл бұрын
I never realised it was all children! Thanks
@ScriptureUnbroken5 жыл бұрын
@Ferdinand Vardas Yes, there would have been a lot of angry parents. There's much to unravel here...I'll give you the little help I can; First, is knowing where to put your trust. *Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.* (John 17:17) *He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.* (John 3:33) *God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.* (Romans 3:4) The simplicity in being; believe the word of God or not. Secondly, Judaea and Galilee were under military occupation. Any that rose up in dissent were killed and dispersed. Here's evidence from the words of Gamaliel, a pharisee; *For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.* *After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.* (Acts 5:36-37) Do we disbelieve Gamaliel simply because these accounts aren't mentioned in other books of the bible? No, of course not; it's simply about where we choose to put our faith, in the words of God (bible) or the words of men. And if dissenters were slain, then the fear of writing against the powers that be would be great. God makes sure that believers have his truth - one verse on this matter is sufficient. Thirdly, the true Levitical priesthood have been usurped and destroyed by the time of the coming of Christ. It's more difficult to explain this in comment form but I've covered it in videos in my John the Baptist playlist; look for a video called 'The Shadow Order' it's the long version you'd want to watch, also a video 'Usurping the Levitical Order'. Basically, there was no realistic organized opposition to Herod. Zacharias, John's father, was the last Levite with genealogy to the 24 families of the sons of Aaron to serve in the temple...and his son John the Baptist, technically and legally was the last High Priest of Levi. (The book of Malachi and Luke 1 are good scriptures to study for help with the understanding of these matters) Also there's a great number of indicators in the gospel accounts that the priesthood had been interfered with and corrupted; *There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.* (Luke 13:1) *Then assembled together the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, unto the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,* (Matt 26:3) *But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.* (John 19:15) There's a few quick examples of what's going on. Romans interfering with the temple sacrifices, high priests living in palaces and the chief priests worshiping Caesar...if you look at the gospel accounts with clarity, you'll see what's really happening and why angry parents weren't rising up or writing about such things. Maybe there were other accounts and the Romans or priests simply destroyed them. Hope that helps, God bless.
@glowinggold94885 жыл бұрын
@Ferdinand VardasIf only one Gospel spoke of it.. That's enough for me.
@glowinggold94885 жыл бұрын
@@patm6704I believe the bible..
@Deanzphx5 жыл бұрын
@Károly Papp contrary, women could turn the tides of the future, and in this case, it was huge folly
@paulus.tarsensus3 жыл бұрын
Herod rebuilt Jerusalem and built Caesarea ( his 'gift' to Rome ). His new architecture was surpassingly beautiful. The 'Temple Mount' is the foundations of the Roman Fort, the largest structure in Jerusalem. with the temple linked nearby. When the Roman army destroyed Jerusalem and its small temple, only the fort was left standing.
@samyeezy30683 жыл бұрын
His staff did not him.
@julianciahaconsulting86633 жыл бұрын
which leads to the awkward situation of Jews praying not to a surviving wall of the 2nd Temple but a wall of the fort where the roman legions lived who destroyed the 2nd Temple - I wonder if the Jews will ever admit it?
@sidmeyer20113 жыл бұрын
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 actually the wall is part of the base of the Temple Mount structure and is therefore part of the Temple complex.
@paulus.tarsensus3 жыл бұрын
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 Many have already. The Hasidic Jews and some other extremely conservative sects won't be able to do this on ideological grounds, as it invalidates a strong tradition, which they use as a foundation of their religious belief. Most Muslims will never be able to accept this fact, either. The Truth is often harsh and inconvenient and most folks reject it automatically instead of re-examining their beliefs. This is simply human nature. Here's another zinger: Mecca is not the city of Mohammed. The City of Mohammed is almost certainly Petra in Northern Arabia. Dan Gibson conclusively demonstrated this during the past few years, but this is something that the authorities in Saudi Arabia will never be able to acknowledge.
@paulus.tarsensus3 жыл бұрын
@@sidmeyer2011 No it isn't. The Temple was completely destroyed and Israeli Archaeologists have discovered the remains of the altar of Solomon's ( destroyed ) Temple and some debris from the Second Temple. It was linked by causeway to the Roman Fort, but it was obliterated by Roman troops. Only the Roman Fort was left untouched in the City of Jerusalem. The Temple Mount is the foundations and the magazines of the Roman Fort. It was carefully built up to level to create a large platform for the Roman garrison. Jerusalem was a garrison city and the capital of the province of Judea, arguably the most valuable overseas possession of the People and the Senate of Rome. Herod also built Caesarea as a resort for the Romans and a port city for Jerusalem. Rome was terribly concerned about a Jewish uprising and history proved them right, even though their own actions helped bring it about. The 'Temple Mount' is the remains of the Roman Fort.
@dlennox16295 жыл бұрын
If Timeline did not have so much ads on their documentaries I would watch them all the time.
@julietspaghetti5 жыл бұрын
The ads suck
@dburton27653 жыл бұрын
free ad block helps
@lindadiaz32683 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary, I had no idea what I've learned today 🌿❣️
@NoName-vq3zo3 жыл бұрын
These rewriting of history to absolve the tyranny and wrongdoings of their own to another is really astounding!
@velvetunderpants443 жыл бұрын
"Their own"?
@velvetunderpants443 жыл бұрын
@@opinionsvary Ok... But my question was who are "they"?
@ChristineAllen_yeni3 жыл бұрын
Can you suggest a reference for an accurate history?
@michaelstephens39723 жыл бұрын
@@velvetunderpants44 The Elites and Rulers of this wicked world.
@michaelstephens39723 жыл бұрын
@@ChristineAllen_yeni The Bible.
@murthydorairaj22113 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentry vedeo giving historical events highlighting his cruelty of his nature to retain in power.
@Madmen6043 жыл бұрын
I wonder who were his building engineers? They deserve as much credit as Harod surely. Is that on the Mediterranean?
@rileyhiggins47533 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting how Josephus account is taken as gospel yet when Mathew mentions something about him that is seen as subjective and should not be taken seriously.
@jakestroll65183 жыл бұрын
Matthew didn't actually write the book of Matthew. Only John wrote his own gospel. The book of Matthew was cobbled together by his followers who tried to recreate his stories. They were also influenced by the other disciples accounts. Matthew also makes a lot of claims that aren't corroborated by anyone outside of his religion. If the sky darkened at 3pm at Jesus crucifixion, why isn't it recorded by any academic scribes in the whole region??? Also, the book of Matthew has a clear agenda whereas Josephus has none
@sojrnrr83683 жыл бұрын
@@jakestroll6518 Matthew being a Lewyte did indeed write his own book , originally in "Hebrew" as witnessed by Justinian 2 who hated the "Hebrew" Language and had Matthew's witness burned. I have a copy of it; got it before the London Museum censored access to it.
@kennyhofer70113 жыл бұрын
@@jakestroll6518 The prophet Jeremiah talks about Rachel crying for her kids because it was over for them. Which was a clear prophecy to this massacre.
@timmyg442 жыл бұрын
No, Josephus' account of Jesus and his followers is known interpolation, or fake.
@MysticOceanDollies Жыл бұрын
@@jakestroll6518Josephus also had an agenda in his writings, from the way he wrote about himself, to remaining in Roman favor, defining was is a Jew when he wrote about Samaritans, and how he believed the Jews should be ruled
@F8TALJEDI6 жыл бұрын
Had to stop and comment on the first most obvious error/lie. The narrator said that Herod was Arab, this is not true Herod was an Idumean, a descendant of Esau/Edom.
@colliric6 жыл бұрын
Actually apart from that bit the documentary is extremely good.
@samdowner17926 жыл бұрын
No he was an Arab.
@samdowner17926 жыл бұрын
@@danahsutton101 Pilate had Jesus killed.
@RachelStormborn6 жыл бұрын
@@samdowner1792 Actually, His own Religion's clergy had him killed and they used Pilot to do the deed to get around their own laws. Pilot didn't dare let him go once the Pharisees got him in front of him because he'd get in trouble with Herod. Pilot might have "pulled the trigger" so to speak but it was Jesus' own Religious leaders that "aimed the gun". Blame where it's due. As far as whether he was or was not Arab is up for debate among greater scholars than you or I so saying with certainty that he was an Arab or with certainty that he wasn't is based solely on personal preference as there are arguments for both. Having said that, there is more supporting evidence for him *not* being an Arab. This documentary seems to have a preferred "slant". Just saying. I mean, the title alone tells you that it has a slant when they say "Biblical Tyrant Documentary".
@samdowner17926 жыл бұрын
@@RachelStormborn LOL Firstly moron it is spelled Pilate, a pilot is someone who flies a plane. The rest of your rant is idiotic moronity. Herod came for the tribe fo Esau. Esau was the half son of a Jew and an Arab slave woman, hagar, and that makes him not a Jew. Sorry but I know my history. Thinking you are even within my league is silly on your part. So you got that right, greater scholars know more han you. How many degrees do you possess? I have two.
@elvenkind60723 жыл бұрын
One that knew Herod said: "It is better to be Herod's dog than one of his children"
@shaydowsith3483 жыл бұрын
actually, the quote is "it is better to be Herod's pig"
@elvenkind60723 жыл бұрын
@@shaydowsith348 From what source are you quoting? After googling, I find both, and both attributed to Augustus.
@patriciacrowell59223 жыл бұрын
What a bloody statement.
@patriciacrowell59223 жыл бұрын
Wish there was a part 2 with more personal info. Well done.
@strongmummy5803 жыл бұрын
Part 2 in the holy Bible
@IronPatriot263 жыл бұрын
Every single student of history knows that the Hasmoneans were descendants of the Maccabees who descended from the priest line of Aharon. If this doc can so blatantly say they came from the Davidic line then I wonder what other misinformation they pass on. Just because they say it with a confident British accent doesn't change facts.
@Guillan803 жыл бұрын
Infidelity was easy back then.
@Guillan803 жыл бұрын
Unless there is actual DNA 🧬 links.
@ETTP.S3 жыл бұрын
@@Guillan80 and there ISNT
@tamarromano4313 жыл бұрын
You are right! The Maccabees were Cohanim.
@ETTP.S3 жыл бұрын
@@tamarromano431 they weren’t. They were LEVITES. You are unlearned. Stop making up words that don’t pertain to what the SCRIPTURES Say! The SCRIPTURES OVERRULE ANY HISTORICAL ACCOUNT AS IT IS ALREADY A HISTORICAL ACCOUNT.
@HistoryonYouTube4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. I thought particularly interesting was the description of Caesarea, a place I visited (and filmed) but without understanding the full extent of what actually was built there.
@AlexSmith-mp4eg3 жыл бұрын
Caesarea is a port town. Built for the Greeks living in herods lands apparently. Caesarea, used to be called Stratos tower. The citadel in Jerusalem (the temple) was also called stratos tower but also got a name change, to the tower of Antonia.
@TheNorthernMist3 жыл бұрын
Herod had a mandate to keep "peace" in any manner he wanted. He is considered a monster...a murderer. He occupied a time in history when the rulership culture was murderous and brutal. That in part made him who he was.
@Beencouraged7775 жыл бұрын
What does it profit to gain the whole world but loose your soul, sick man Herod was
@trailtrs15 жыл бұрын
True.
@ralphstephan3535 жыл бұрын
Breathe Herod was in fact a horrible man who, according to historians of his time, killed his own three sons who plotted against him. But that doesn’t mean he ordered the massacre of thousands of infant males. There is no record of this by those writing in the time of Christ. Matthew’s story is not supported by anyone else, including by Josephus, a reliable source of information.
@TiempoNuevo-ew7ty5 жыл бұрын
Or so it is said.
@RavenWolfDrum695 жыл бұрын
It's what they all do. The rulers of the world
@annechester7705 жыл бұрын
I don't want the world.. I got no where to put it
@hankrogers84316 жыл бұрын
That IS NOT the temple mount. That was the base of the Roman fort built after the destruction of the temple. Even Josephus said, "Not one stone was left atop another."
@SoulScribe435 жыл бұрын
False
@SoulScribe435 жыл бұрын
@@Nudnik1 hey, Shalom!!! Glad to see you on YT outside Tanakh talk !! 😁😁 the pagans went crazy on this one, did you notice they lied regarding Herod's decent? He was Esau kin, but Esau wouldn't want to report truth...
@chimmy___5 жыл бұрын
Hank Rogers - Yeah, the temple was located in The City of David.
@EdenHussain174 жыл бұрын
@@@SoulScribe43 .hay Salam to you too. Just a correction. HEROD THE GREAT WAS AN ARAB. You know from the line of Abraham. Historic fact just so you know. But why would you care, you people were the chosen people. The blessed. Apple of gods eye.. I wonder where God was when throughout history countries after centuries murder you. Raped and robbed u, enslaved you. Countless times destroyed your city's.....just wondering..
@joebrock33724 жыл бұрын
The Fortress... Antonia
@teamjesuswithtriggerholada75005 жыл бұрын
They always try to hide the truth of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Yahweh, The ONLY King of Kings. Mighty in All ways. Truth will always be told, always be seen. We are in the Tribulation, the final chapter of the book we call, the Bible, it has already been written, the ending told. If the soul is sick, the body will be sick as well. It is given it is written
@jo2lovid5 жыл бұрын
The bible doesn't reconcile to the rest of recorded history. If you are really prepared to research your beliefs you will find too many discrepancies to continue to believe in christianity as a theistic belief.
@cloudleopard76955 жыл бұрын
The GoSPELS !!!
@LindaCooper-i3f14 күн бұрын
Now, all we need is to have actor James Brolin to play Herod on theatre screens.
@ebe78404 жыл бұрын
Great story and fantastic speaker voice. Thanks ♥️
@peterhagan84544 жыл бұрын
absolutely fasinating very well done on this programme
@Coach_MarcyBob4 жыл бұрын
It was very common for Kings to omit certain events in their reign simply to preserve a “positive” remembrance in history.
@nippermh3 жыл бұрын
What Trump is doing now lol
@rosesacks74303 жыл бұрын
@@nippermh you're siting the wrong current day politician
@clarkeokah11543 жыл бұрын
Or there simply wasn’t any account in actual history of the Jesus fairy tale..
@rosesacks74303 жыл бұрын
@@clarkeokah1154 what an odd comment to make 🤔
@clarkeokah11543 жыл бұрын
@@rosesacks7430 what’s “odd” about it? Or did you just learn to use the word “odd”?
@FrederickBowdler12 күн бұрын
A must see documentary ! , very well presented and with informed academics😊😊😊🎉🎉🎉🎉
@brieze12333 жыл бұрын
So thrilling and informative to watch, listen and understand..thx
@JeriDro3 жыл бұрын
I'm addicted to Timeline's videos.
@vonroretz33073 жыл бұрын
Serious Inaccuracy: Hasmoneans were not “of the davidic line” This is actually quite well known.
@AlexSmith-mp4eg3 жыл бұрын
Josephus, disagrees with you.
@vonroretz33073 жыл бұрын
@@AlexSmith-mp4eg Can you quote this?
@AlexSmith-mp4eg3 жыл бұрын
Sure, I'll have a look for it and post the quote here.
@AlexSmith-mp4eg3 жыл бұрын
@@vonroretz3307 I actually read your reply wrong 😂 I read the line of Aaron, my bad.
@vonroretz33073 жыл бұрын
@@AlexSmith-mp4eg so they’re Aaronic then ? at least its easy to remember !
@TrollYaRollBro11 ай бұрын
This was really good. I always enjoy reading other pieces and gathering more info on something people are groomed to believe only happened one way. Different angles always make things more interesting.
@suesen773 жыл бұрын
He killed his wife and kept her in a vat of honey and visited her every night! Exactly when did he go insane?! Long before his death.
@mish3753 жыл бұрын
Herod and Nero sound like they would have made a real pair of insane college buddies. Both were completely mad and also killed their wives. For reference: Nero kicked his second wife to death while she was heavily pregnant, killing both her and the baby.
@timmyg442 жыл бұрын
likely a slur about him coined by his detractors.
@TheSimidog2 жыл бұрын
He was probably a paranoid schizophrenic (undiagnosed,).
@TheSimidog2 жыл бұрын
@@mish375 how many rulers can you think of in just our lifetime have used fear and cruelty to stay in power. The more unpopular they become because of their actions the more paranoid they are and rightly so. Take Putin for example.
@gideonhorwitz94345 жыл бұрын
literally last Saturday at my synagogue I was having historical and theological discussions with my friends before services ended. And one topic that came up was king herad that a lot of his architectural work especially the renovations on the temple was his way of making amends after the killings. I just find it ironic a few days later I stumble upon this documentary never looked for it but it found me.
@LiliWhyte3 жыл бұрын
Algorithms...
@rosina73943 жыл бұрын
@@LiliWhyte he never said he looked it up tho
@rudyredcat4253 жыл бұрын
Synchronicity. God. Happens to me all the tine, and it isn’t because I’m looking something up. Pay attention to the nuances in your life.
@n0v-3l3 жыл бұрын
Your phone is always listening. Mark Zuckerberg and Google Have Eyes everywhere
@LiliWhyte3 жыл бұрын
@@n0v-3l exactly! Go ahead & have a convo with a friend about dog food & soon enough, you'll start seeing ads for dog food.
@oab15983 жыл бұрын
Interesting and exceedingly entertaining documentary. I really enjoyed it. Nevertheless, I was surprised it had some basic inaccuracies. E.g The narration said "In 31 BC simmering ill feeling between Mark Antony and the Emperor Octavian erupted into civil war." Octavian wasn't an Emperor then. He was actually a private citizen when the civil war began. It wasn't until 27 BC, long after the civil war had ended, was he renamed Augustus and bestowed some Emperor like powers. Even then it was gradual as the years passed, opposed to suddenly given absolute King like powers. Furthermore it showed Octavian wearing Emperor like Crown/Wreath (Corona Radiata) when Herod visited him to plead his defence in supporting Mark Antony. Again this would be highly inaccurate. Romans up to that point detested anything king like and Octavian-even when renamed Augustus was more of a first amongst equals politician 'Princeps' (First Citizen within the Republic not Roman Emperor and Empire) who ensured he appeared humble and far from being a ruler because the senate and Roman people would not have accepted this. It wasn't until after he passed that later generation Emperor's like Caligula began wearing crowns and displaying absolute like powers.
@kernlove19863 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
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@neilhenriques9435 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, a nice video. I like this historic channel, especially with the details.💕
@asenla...3 жыл бұрын
A great source of information 👍
@johncargill49824 жыл бұрын
Are we supposed to feel badly for poor Herod now? Has revisionist history indeed reeducated us to believe that actually he was an archetypal hero from antiquity?
@jeanross74303 жыл бұрын
Excellent thank you, but old age and possible paranoia or madness does not imo exonerate King Herod from any crimes against the Jews.
@VergaDeLosVergas3 жыл бұрын
History is history, they’re not revising anything lol
@julianciahaconsulting86633 жыл бұрын
It was already a christian revisionist history to begin with . And a "history" written by christians who did many fraudulent historical add ons to the story...to (1) make the Jesus story fit the Old Testament prophecies of the Messiah and (2) to try to create a contemporary verification of Jesus existing as a real historical figure because there were none - thats why you had 4th century christian leaders in Constantine's court adding on paragraphs to Josephus to creating fake letters from Pilate to Rome talking about his interview of Jesus and nonsense like that. All have been now proven to be fake. Scholars dont even know who wrote the Gospels! The fact remains is that there is no document contemporary of when Jesus was alleged to have lived that mentions him at all. Odd that considering when he died there was suppose to be a solar eclipse and earthquakes around the world and what not!
@gothboschincarnate39313 жыл бұрын
Its good that we we not talk about christian fraud and revisionist history....i hope christian fanaticism and revisionism will not destroy America one day.
@gen.washington18933 жыл бұрын
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 you are crazy. Non of that is true and most scholars disagree with you. Site all you're sources and make sure what they say what you claim and that they are the majority and not a few radical revisionists
@lislevollgraaff12363 жыл бұрын
Be careful when you call God a liar. The Bible is His spoken word through the prophets. All of it is true!
@mrbrown61528 ай бұрын
What’s even more interesting is that he got his “illness” directly after killing those children. And nobody can seem to put 2 and 2 together that maybe this was his punishment from God for killing all of those children. He didn’t need to be recorded by Josephus. It’s pretty obvious that this is what happened.
@aaroncrutcher59574 ай бұрын
Amen 🙏
@biggiemama9443Ай бұрын
Really?
@johncronin95409 күн бұрын
I didn’t see anyone calling God a liar. These aren’t theologians or Scriptural scholars. They are historians and archeologists, and most are Israeli, so they aren’t going to believe in the New Testament. They are looking for clues about Herod from many different sources, and weighing the evidence. Remember, Luke’s infancy narrative is quite different than Matthew’s (most people have a jumbled up version of the two in their head), and makes no mention whatsoever of the slaughter of the innocents, so the only source we have is Matthew’s. Mark and John don’t even HAVE infancy narratives at all. So what really happened, and how do we find out 2,000 years later? Certainly a case can be made that Herod did issue such an order. He was definitely capable of it- look how he treated his own wives and sons. He certainly was extremely paranoid, and it seems as though as his physical health deteriorated, so did his mental health. There’s a story, not mentioned here, perhaps it’s apocryphal, that Caesar Augustus (referred to by his original name, Octavian in this video) was aware of Herod’s extreme paranoia, and said that it would be safer to be one of Herod’s pigs than to be one of his sons. But it’s also possible that the writer of Matthew was using the story to make a point, comparing Jesus with Moses. There were slaughters of innocents (in both cases all boys up to the age of two), and both Moses and Jesus found refuge with Egypt. In Moses’ case, he was saved by the sister of Pharaoh, in Jesus’ case, by his family fleeing to Egypt. A Jewish-Christian audience would IMMEDIATELY see the parallels, and Matthew raises several more references in that Gospel. You have to remember that the human writers of the Gospels weren’t writing history as WE understand historical writing. They weren’t writing biographies either. Their focus is on Jesus’ teachings and ministry, his passion, death and resurrection. We know almost nothing about most of Jesus’ life. It leaves a lot of questions. Why didn’t he marry is a big question, as it was expected that all men and women were expected to be married. Perhaps he was, and his wife died before his ministry. Such things were common in that era- childbirth was extremely dangerous for most of human existence. I’m not saying Jesus was married, only pointing out how very little we really know. The truths of the Bible are not necessarily HISTORICAL (or scientific) truths, but are far more important (from a theological perspective) THEOLOGICAL truths.
@adamsmith8307Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for uploading this video.
@lynndonharnell4225 жыл бұрын
But Josephus stated that it was extremely dangerous in Judea at the time. Indeed the Roman soldier got danger money for posting there.
@richardpotter63135 жыл бұрын
Like Combat Pay today.
@guymontag95773 жыл бұрын
Many of those "Romans" had never been to the City of Rome, and many were born there.
@pamelaadam92073 жыл бұрын
If you screwed up in britain you got posted to palestine if you screwed up there you got posted to Britain to be Scotti food
@philcoppa3 жыл бұрын
years ago, someone did a calculation from the population at the time and estimated Herod would have had about 20 boys killed, which is quite believable.
@timmyg442 жыл бұрын
and how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, with both being supernatural events, or the last thing anyone should ever entertain as actually happening when weighing likelihoods.
@maucommaero23684 жыл бұрын
Great show!
@HolyLandSite Жыл бұрын
2:06 Your statement: "We know more about Herod than we do about Jesus" is ridiculous and shows your ignorance of the many writings about Jesus found in the Old Testament, the four Gospels, the New Testament, and other historical writings. I've lost confidence in your channel as a result.
@agnieszkaschentke2273Ай бұрын
It is a true statement evidence wise. Harold shows up in historical evidence more than Jesus. This excludes the bible. Historians do not see the bible as truth.
@Kei_shiawase3 күн бұрын
The Bible is not a historical account.
@timlamiam3 жыл бұрын
4:11 o hey this guy was my prof for a first year history course way back in 08-09 semester. He looks way younger here, totally forgot his name. I'll never forget that voice though. It's almost exactly how I imagined Professor Binns sounded like in Harry Potter.
@annanimus39435 жыл бұрын
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that there were 3 wise men. There had to have been an entire company of magi, and a large caravan in order to ensure safe travel.
@dolphfren5 жыл бұрын
The Bible story of the Three Wise Men, from the gospel of Matthew, is also known as the biblical Magi or the Three Kings. This Bible story regards a group of scholarly foreigners who traveled to visit Jesus after his birth, bearing gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. After Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea, during the time of King Herod, Wise Men from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, 'Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him.' When King Herod learned this he was troubled, and all of Jerusalem with him. He called together all the leading clerics and scholars of the law, he questioned them where the Christ was to be born. 'In Bethlehem in Judea,' they answered, 'for this is what the prophet has written: "' But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you will come a ruler who will be the shepherd of my people Israel.'" Then Herod summoned the Wise Men secretly and found out from them the precise time the star had emerged. He sent them to Bethlehem and said, 'Go and make a careful search for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him.' As directed by King Herod, they went on their way, and the star they had seen in the East went before them until it stopped over the area where the child laid. Upon arriving at the house, they observed the child with his mother Mary, and they kneeled down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, incense, and myrrh. They were then miraculously warned in a dream not to go back to Herod, as he planned to kill Jesus in preserving his authority, and returned to their home by an alternative route.
@annanimus39435 жыл бұрын
@@dolphfren The BlBLE does Not SAY there were 3 wise men. ..or Magi or the Three Kings. N0 3 at all. L00K lT up.
@annanimus39435 жыл бұрын
@Steven Hickman Chapter and verse? The Bible doesn't give the number. lt is very unlikely that there were 3.
@richardpotter63135 жыл бұрын
The gold and frankincense paid the way for them to flee into Egypt. However , they didn't show at the birth in the manger scene as they were already in a house at their arrival. I truly believe that they understood Daniel's writings on the seventy weeks, which told the year of His baptism and beginning of His ministry (as well as His death and the stoning of Stephen when the gospel was given over to the gentiles). They were from the same area, they knew a priest had to be thirty years old and with the aid of the Holy Spirit, did some math and went in search. They understood prophecy then, much better than most today. It's rather a good thing they did because without the gifts, travel would've been hinderd. God's always in charge.
@annanimus39435 жыл бұрын
@@richardpotter6313 Exactly. But it never said there were 3.
@nuggetoftruth-ericking74895 жыл бұрын
This was interesting. Thank you.
@lawyergrits2 жыл бұрын
At the 37:51 mark, this video states inaccurately that the Bible says that there were three wise men. The Bible is completely silent about how many of these Magi there were.
@jackyflowers34933 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Herod could have avoided most of this, if he would have just kept his first wife(Queen), and son(Prince)and true heir. 🤔 when he banished them to take a second wife, who didn't even want him..it all went south. 🙄 I wonder how history would be different.
@rdallas81 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't matter. History and future will follow the bible exactly. Just like ww1 led to ww2 then ISRAEL came about. God is not lacking in His promises.
@jeffreypardy28315 жыл бұрын
you have blended three Herod's, Harod the great's grand son Herod Agripa 73 bc -4bc . Herod Antipas was Jesus's time.
@sashastanfill49164 жыл бұрын
Yes. I have seen this done before too
@AlexSmith-mp4eg4 жыл бұрын
Markus Agrippa (Herod Agrippa) was 10bc to 44ad. I don't think it's to out of place for people to connect herod and Agrippa, specially if you've read Josephus correctly.
@gaelicxienna3 жыл бұрын
Yes im looking for king herod on jesus time
@SecondTake1233 жыл бұрын
Can you recommend any Herod documentaries?
@jeffreypardy28313 жыл бұрын
@@SecondTake123 urantia book
@clearvisionsecret89523 жыл бұрын
In all I love History especially learning about the biblical stories till now. My bucket list it to go there or travel one day.Jerusalem, Israel. On Gods timing 🙏🏽❤️
@Mister_Hassan3 жыл бұрын
Palestine*
@nickev963 жыл бұрын
Don't stop believing just because some upstart academics decide they don't like the Bible. There are plenty of archeological finds that back up what the Bible says, whereas time and again I've seen these anti God academics lie and/or cover up evidence that doesn't agree with their world view. I hope you make it to Jerusalem, the city of the Great King.
@christophealexander32622 жыл бұрын
@@Mister_Hassan *Israel, as Jesus was a jew
@Mister_Hassan2 жыл бұрын
@@christophealexander3262 there never was a "israel" and no he wasn't not even in the Bible
@belleepoque25449 ай бұрын
@@Mister_Hassan ISRAEL!
@simonsmith72513 жыл бұрын
Another great, great video, thankyou so much for this....
@ceceliaclarke2643 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent documentary, and even a student of the histories of the Old and New Testaments might be provided with new information. However, statements made from the 1.29 mark should be clarified. The narrator states that "only a descendant of King David could be King of the Jews". For clarity and understanding, it should be explained that as Solomon's son inherited the throne of Judea, the people of ten tribes of Israel rebelled against the House of David and formed a separate kingdom which was called the "Kingdom of Israel". The tribe of Judah (David's tribe) and the tribe of Benjamin, remained loyal to the descendants of David. Their Kings were all descendants of David. The newly formed "Kingdom of Israel" maintained its own dynasty, with no king descended from the House of David. Understanding of the Narrator's statement depends on understanding of the words "King of the Jews" . By the time of the events described in this documentary, the ten tribes which belonged to the Kingdom of Israel had been exiled and scattered. The people of Judah and Benjamin were returned,from exile, to their homeland, where they had Jerusalem as their capital. The other (ten) tribes were never sent back to the lands which they had inherited. So by this specific time it would have been correct to say "only a descendant of David can be King of the Jews". If the listener is thinking in terms of the overall history of the Hebrews/the people of Israel/ the Jewish people, this is a phrase which requires clarification.
@svardm3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@elijahjudah41003 жыл бұрын
KING DAVID WAS NOT A JEW! HE IS A ISRAELITE FROM THE TRIBE JUDAH!! JEWS ARE WHITE PEOPLE! AND ARE NOT OF THE BLOOD LINE OF ABRAHAM,ISAAC, AND JACOB(ISRAEL) THE ISRAELITES ARE BLACK PEOPLE!!!
@spmoran47033 жыл бұрын
@@elijahjudah4100 Oh give it a break . So the Nazis who thoroughly examined every Holocaust victim , mostly white for Jewish traits . Got it wrong ? They should have been murdering black people in your way of thinking . Stop the Racism now. It leads to death Camps.
@vd17213 жыл бұрын
@@spmoran4703 he's a black Hebrew Israelite believer he won't listen. They have a racially specific belief system not agreed upon by any real scholar.
@sojrnrr83683 жыл бұрын
@@elijahjudah4100 In fact, the people in this vid claiming to be experts know they are Herod/Roman descendants thanks to genetic scientists Ariella Oppenheimer and Eran ElHaik
@ericpeterson87322 жыл бұрын
I find it remarkable that the Herod of history is EXACTLY the sort of person who would kill all the babies of a certain age in a small town in order to prevent a threat to his throne. It would be more farfetched if Herod was actually a good king or decent man. But the fact that he routinely killed who he considered were threats to his rule is pretty telling. Now, I don't know if the Bethlehem massacre was real or a literary throwback to the Goshen massacre. (aka Moses in Exodus) But if it was, you have to remember, Bethlehem was a small town. They had just (within 3 years or so) had a census and knew where people generally were. The soldiers were working from the census and the local records concerning dedications and so forth. So they kinda knew where to go. But if I'm wrong about that and I could be, how many babies were killed? How big was Bethlehem at this point? While graphic and brutal, if it wasn't a sizable number, it would blend into the horrible things that Herod and the Romans have done. We looking back on it would think it's horrendous and it is, but if a historian didn't think it was newsworthy, it didn't go into the record. I wonder what Josephus thought of Bethlehem. And who his sources were. No newspapers back then. Guys like Josephus worked for kings and other rich, powerful people. Anyway, whether it did or didn't happen is a matter of Faith, but given what we know of the man, it's completely possible. Or is it probable?
@anarchorepublican59542 жыл бұрын
👑👑👑HAPPY 3 Kings Day !🎂...or THE pathetic PREJUDICE of postmoderne' history laid bare... "Oh yes... in general King Herod had no qualms ordering mass killings, and for the mildest threats to his power and reign... but, oh no, ...when something very consistent about Herod, said in the Bible?...we'll have to doubts about that..." Why??? well..ah...er...the single source for the account is Matthew..." (actually not true at all... but for now....OK, just for the sake of argument) 1. Are there additional ancient historical sources, other than the one from Josephus, for Herod's individual mass atrocities?....not in general...rather the specific one's, that Josephus does detail and, which apparently historians have no doubts? ...nope 2. Are the any later, critical and ancient, but adversarial historical sources, either denying or suggesting that "the Slaughter of the Innocents", was an invented Christian slur? ...not a one 3. Are there ancient historical sources which, fully accept "the Slaughter of the Innocents" on its face? ...they are legion ...and I have at the ready, references for those interested in the real Herod history, minus anti-Bible bigotry...
@mikealvord55 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s almost as if he’s Palestinian, huh
@jesscastillo91234 жыл бұрын
In the Hollywood movie , " King of kings " with Jeffrey Hinter , it's depicted that Herod's son murdered him , to take over the throne..
@thematrix75843 жыл бұрын
no
@rayramos84353 жыл бұрын
There were several Herod's in succession. People often get them mixed up.
@cymbolichuman4333 жыл бұрын
@@thematrix7584 Yes
@cymbolichuman4333 жыл бұрын
I watch that movie every year! I thought their rendition was pretty good....
@carlyblack423 жыл бұрын
I just love how Rome's bashing of Cleopatra extends to Judea under Harod
@ideasyoutube3 жыл бұрын
It's a nice thing to listen Timeline...just in case you miss some things, Bible is abundant too.
@DidivsIvlianvs6 жыл бұрын
In 73 BC Rome was still a republic, not yet empire (27 BC), and did not yet possess Judea which was still independent under the Maccabees until 64 BC.
@philmuda5 жыл бұрын
it was under nominal ''roman protection''
@brentfairlie91595 жыл бұрын
The Republic had an empire. Just like the french republic of last century had an empire
@brentfairlie91595 жыл бұрын
@Manley Nelson yes I know that. Your your point being.....?
@brentfairlie91595 жыл бұрын
@Manley Nelson what I said was the Republic had an empire. Meaning before it had an emperor. Just like France or even America. A republic can have an empire.
@brentfairlie91595 жыл бұрын
@Manley Nelson no problem. Cheers
@irobott37133 жыл бұрын
what Josephus wrote about Herod can be found in his works "Wars of the Jews" Book One Chapters IX through XXXII ( lots of interesting detailed information )
@jamesbowman79633 жыл бұрын
Thanks I was going to look it up appreciate the information.
@LowInformation3 жыл бұрын
I'm listening to it again for the 3rd time. It's a game of thrones, an interesting listen. It does help to know the geography and politics of the day.
@AlexSmith-mp4eg3 жыл бұрын
@@LowInformation listen? Why don't you read it lol iv been reading Josephus for the last 10 years and I can tell you, that you're missing out on valuable information. Next time, listen to how secretive Josephus is about herods wife, he calls he the "high priests daughter" and you lot say its mariamne the 2nd and the high priest is Simon Ben Boethus 😂 I say the high priest is Alexander and the daughter is Mariamne the 1st.
@trevorjames93663 жыл бұрын
and in his book “ antiquity of the jews”, Herod is found in books 14-16 i believe. And I just wrote a brief chapter summary from my notes , and posted lt on the wikipedia page for “antiquity of the jews”
@dannytaveras15213 жыл бұрын
Thanks for data.
@LeePenn24922 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative. A man of his times and surroundings.
@grimvaderdehoff83645 жыл бұрын
More false history- the Hasmoneans weren’t related to David they were related to Levi. They became king priests in defiance of Jewish law of Davidic lineage. Immudeans converted to Judaism under John Hyronanus
@AlexSmith-mp4eg3 жыл бұрын
Idumeans should be written as DM, which can be reused to find more information on what Josephus is trying to tell you. Who was (H)asamoneus? You can't tell me can you, but I could tell you. John Hyrcanus, was related to David, you just don't know how to read Josephus, you just read the edited version of Josephus. If John, was related to Onias, then how can you say they don't come from the line of David? Truth is, you can't see that the asamonians, come from the family of Onias.
@sojrnrr83683 жыл бұрын
They ruled according to prophecy in 1Hanokh/Danyal; not in defiance; but stepping up.
@Ms.Mimi.Speaks3 ай бұрын
We need to get people to understand that it was the Idumeans, aka Edomites, that went into Europe, not the Israelites! Herod was an Edomite, NOT AN ARAB!!!
@chaseschneier10763 жыл бұрын
Leasing Jericho from Cleopatra cost over 1/2 the nation’s income. Government costs were also high. Where did he get the money for all these expensive building projects?
@noblefemi8 ай бұрын
Tax
@sandrabentley8111Ай бұрын
Taxes
@lunettasuziejewel20803 жыл бұрын
"Herod acted decisively: he fled." Brave, brave King Herod!
@carlostettey28893 жыл бұрын
thought I was the only one that picked that line 😂
@paulkiragu81203 жыл бұрын
With bags of cash no doubt
@mohit13reddy3 жыл бұрын
It is a tactical retreat, it would have been foolish for him to stay behind, bravery doesn't have to mean stupidity.
@paulkiragu81203 жыл бұрын
@@mohit13reddy of course its tactical. He's on of the smartest leaders of their time.
@7deepbreaths.sounds2 жыл бұрын
I'm astounded by how many commercial interruptions they are able to place at the lousiest moments in ALL of their documentaries.
@jacquesminor10813 жыл бұрын
❗ Herod killed those babies❗ first of all because the Bible said he did⚫ and second because it was prophesied Rachel is the mother of all the Jews and Jacob told Joseph in Genesis 48 & 7 that he buried her in Bethlehem and the Prophet Jeremiah said in chapter 31 verse 15 said Rachel was weeping for her children signifying her daughter's weeping because of the slaughter. Don't be deceived people! Don't let nobody tell you the Bible's not right, God is able to put his word in the Earth, and keep it‼️
@ליאורפלא5 жыл бұрын
Herod was Idumean but his grandfather had been converted to Judaism, he was Jewish as his mother was also a convert, the HASMONEANS WERE NOT DESCENDANTS OF KING DAVID!!! THEY WERE PRIEST, A VERY SPECIF TRIBE IN ANCIENT ISRAEL.. .
@suzeauster22235 жыл бұрын
ליאור פלא Todah!
@yamisoaegyeo4 жыл бұрын
Didn't King David came from the tribe of Judah? A tribe of priests?
@samdowner17924 жыл бұрын
Jewishness is not determined by belief it's determined by genealogy. Be quiet imbecile
@samdowner17924 жыл бұрын
@@yamisoaegyeo the designated priests were from the tribe of Levi
@yamisoaegyeo4 жыл бұрын
@@samdowner1792 my bad, thanks for the correction!:) I only remembered it's the 3rd son, but mixed the names up.
@Born_again19843 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t king Herod and his “madness” that was desperate to eradicate Jesus, it was “who” was heavily influencing and pushing him inwardly, just as Judas iscariot was influenced internally by a supernatural power. The unseen realm will always be intertwined with the physical realm
@podersa2413 жыл бұрын
AMEN That is why we must always pray for wisdom. Thank you for your comment.
@delgadoperry34093 жыл бұрын
Wasn't, no unseen forces... But sheckles of silver
@delgadoperry34093 жыл бұрын
He the same sellout today, but he smoke crack now
@SolutionsNotPrayers3 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they let Baby Jesus die for everyone's sins then? It would have been an opportune moment, but 🤬 no, had to let him grow up and show off.
@Born_again19843 жыл бұрын
@@SolutionsNotPrayers he lead a life that no one can duplicate . Lead by example on how to be a son, a brother, a friend, a teacher, a servant and most importantly a sacrifice. He had to be a willing sacrifice, as a baby there would be no wiling sacrifice. God loved you so much that Jesus willingly stayed on that cross until the death penalty was paid. Took the punishment for everyone including you. The fact that you have not succumb to Covid and died like so many is a opportunity that God still wants you change your thinking about him and his Son, remaining cold and indifferent will only seal your eternity.
@phyllislovelace8151 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very interesting documentary.
@iprogramplus6 жыл бұрын
get your facts straight, david was from judah, hashmonaim were priests
@onefeather26 жыл бұрын
We still have " Herods" Today.
@davehallett31285 жыл бұрын
The king of the yankees is a hair odd too
@vernedavis5 жыл бұрын
ad blocker plus
@vernedavis5 жыл бұрын
apologies , wrong commenter replied to
@thomastimk99825 жыл бұрын
Yes it's called abortion
@Kevin-ht1st4 жыл бұрын
Planned parenthood
@richardshiggins7043 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary . I thought his final illness may have been syphylis though chronic renal failure was quite possible . Peter the Great also had renal failure and was insane towards the end of his reign .
@jackyflowers34933 жыл бұрын
Both.
@zin1533 жыл бұрын
Possibly Fournier's gangrene caused by diabetes.
@mrspeace2u9073 жыл бұрын
This documentary suggested he had relations with his dead wife. Think maybe he could’ve contracted a disease from that.
@jackyflowers34933 жыл бұрын
@@mrspeace2u907 😳 that's right. 💯
@PoeLemic3 жыл бұрын
Richard ... Yeah, I guessed the same thing of syphilis. But, I guess it could be kidney disease also.
@WilliamSmith-iz2kl3 жыл бұрын
I totally love your last statement in this episode.
@sampuatisamuel97853 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating
@AlphonseMenkefor2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I am learning some historical facts about Herod (king) for the first time like his Arabic heritage
@suzannakoizumi86056 жыл бұрын
Yes, Herod killed the baby boys. A tomb in the town has been discovered and it is filled with baby remains and it is dated to when Jesus was born. Yes, Herod ordered the killing of the innocents to protect his throne.
@stanhickerson57685 жыл бұрын
More specifics please, I would like to know more.
@mauricematla12155 жыл бұрын
That claim requires direct and reliable.evidence. I have yet to see that.
@vaylon17015 жыл бұрын
no such proof exist. Just a lie.
@austejarainbowcloud1405 жыл бұрын
Well at least the people were less H for a while🤷♀️
@mikisunshine93343 жыл бұрын
What are you smoking Suzanna,more replacement theology b.s
@honorladone86823 жыл бұрын
All humans should RESPECT each other and our world. Philadelphia USA
@honorladone86823 жыл бұрын
That's just my opinion.
@num1sooner5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if ya’ll could add a few more commercials
@leecooper42135 жыл бұрын
num1sooner: You should check out ADBLOCK PLUS. I installed it last night & am amazed by how it stops all pop-ups and commercials. And it's free. I watched this entire show without one commercial. Just sayin' ~
@kerenkares61095 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kriseuribe37834 жыл бұрын
Its KZbin that does that not the channel. If you subacribe to youtube premium. There are no ads
@mitzikc4 жыл бұрын
Great sarcasm
@danielcontreras72934 жыл бұрын
Skip to the end and hit replay
@noyka1002 жыл бұрын
Herod died 4 years before Jesus was born. So why are they confusing our brains?
@torreyw2 ай бұрын
I know it's confusing, but the time as stated that Jesus was born between 6 bc and 4 bc. Yes I understand how confusing that sounds but remember, the numbers were thrown off and mixed up at some point. In such a way that throws off our common math off slightly in our heads
@Protogorius Жыл бұрын
You are calling apostle Matthew a liar???? None of all four gospels are the same 100% Every is unique in its own way Bible is truth!!!!!! Glory to Jesus Christ Maranatha Amen
@margomoore45278 ай бұрын
Everyone who believes the Bible understands that the murder of innocents actually took place. It doesn’t matter that he undertook great building projects or engaged in great diplomacy or kept order (more or less) in Judea over a relatively long period. He did not understand the way of love as described in I Corinthians: “If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.” The way he treated his own family demonstrates his heartlessness. Of course, sinners sin against themselves as well, thus he brought terrible suffering upon himself by executing his wife.
@SuperGreatSphinx6 ай бұрын
Truth
@nicholasconder47033 жыл бұрын
I can accept that Herod had all the male children in Bethlehem under the age of two killed. If you think of the population of the area at the time, this would probably have amounted to no more than a dozen or so peasant children, not hundreds or thousands as the narrator quotes at the start of this episode. This is why it doesn't appear outside the Gospels (which don't state the number of children killed either). Since no noble, politically important or Roman children were slain, who cared? Those killed were the sons of peasants and herders, you know, the 'little people'. It's not like there was a CNN or modern media reporting on Herod's activities. Given the times and how brutal Herod was, no one would have noticed.
@aliy1323 жыл бұрын
I think they were not saying the numbers because they are still children- and just because they were born into a lower rank doesn’t make their life insignificant.
@nicholasconder47033 жыл бұрын
@@aliy132 No, I suspect the numbers were not reported because the Gospels were written several years after the event. Herod's historians would not have recorded it because it would reflect badly on Herod (it is not good propaganda), and it is unlikely the Romans or other high officials would have worried about it either. So, this event, which would have been remembered by the locals, would have remained in collective memory until the writers of the Gospels put pen to paper some 40-70 years later. After that much time, it is unlikely that people would have remembered exact numbers, just that all the children 2 years of age or younger in the area were killed. It is rather like getting exact body counts for massacres like the Holocaust, or Katyn, or the Armenia Genocide. We lack the records to get exact numbers, or even the identities of all the victims. Also, I wasn't implying their lives were insignificant - that's just how the nobility and leaders of the age would have looked at it. That has pretty much always been the case throughout history until modern times. Do the Viking Sagas speak of how many defenseless peasants were killed? Do the heroic tales of Chivalry speak of the villages that were wiped out? No. Historians of those ages didn't care about the lower classes because weren't related to the "movers and shakers" of the world, therefore "they didn't matter". It is only because of modern media coverage and creation of a more caring society that all people in all levels of society do matter in the eyes of many people.
@chrispicton41603 жыл бұрын
Seems like something Herods men could do by breakfast and be home for lunch. Done and Done. Guy was Uhhh,, PSYCH O
@ogorhenry71542 жыл бұрын
You sincerely think a king will care about some peasant taking his throne?
@nicholasconder47032 жыл бұрын
@@ogorhenry7154 When you are dealing with superstition, prophecy, and rampant paranoia. We're talking about someone who was murdered at least two of his sons, one of his wives, I believe, and many other relatives. He also spent time towards the end of his life sitting in a chair staring into the desert. So, yes, if he believed Jesus might pose even the remotest threat to his rule, he would kill him.
@tommathew76845 жыл бұрын
Herod in the New Testament reveals that kings routinely kill children to protect their rule.
@natashadahl75415 жыл бұрын
Pharoh did it to the h ebrew male children as well
@iconicon73544 жыл бұрын
@@natashadahl7541 CEOs are the pharaohs of the 21st century...
@bombazine24 жыл бұрын
The Hebrew god does it too. Remember the pass over?
@messianic_scam4 жыл бұрын
He didn't kill anybody ,Jesuits and victorious flavians who wrote the history the bible
@messianic_scam4 жыл бұрын
@@bombazine2 It doesn't mean it happened in real
@surrenderdaily3333 жыл бұрын
It was my understanding from other studies that Herod was an Idumaean and a descendant of Israel's twin brother, Esau. The name Idumea (from Edom, the other name of Esau) was given by the Greeks to the inhabitants of Mount Seir, which is Petra, Esau's land given by God. To call Herod an Arab he would have to be a descendant of Ishmael, Abraham's first son by adultery with his wife's maid, Hagar. But as we do not have Herod's full lineage, with both mothers and fathers, perhaps he had both lines in his blood. They were all related anyway. In any case, it was probably too technical for this history lesson, so they abbreviated the facts. I know that over the last 170 years or so of archaeological activities, hundreds of "learned" men have said that, "this, that, or the other" that was stated in the Bible wasn't true. As time and discovery went on, time and time again the skeptics have been proven wrong through the patient and persistent science of archaeology. I have no doubt that the killing of the infants attributed to Herod in the book of Matthew will some day be proven to be true as well.
@harriedsloth43993 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. But until then, let's all just assume that Jesus isn't real and the Bible is mythology until we are proven wrong yet again, so that we can continue to "break their bands" and "casts away their cords" (Psalms 2). Nevertheless, " He who sits in the heavens laughs...".
@KeepingWatch953 жыл бұрын
Historic records show a Saul and Phasaelus in King Herod the Great's family tree King Herod's wife Pallas (one of Herod's lesser wives) had a son named Phasaelus (means Saul and or Paul). Summery: Phasaelus (Saul/Paul) is King Herod's own son. --- King Herod's with his wife Mariamne I, had a daughter named Cypros II. King Herod's sister; Salome I with her second husband Costobar had a son named Antipater (Idumeens). Thus King Herod's nephew Antipater (Idumeens) married King Herods daughter Cypros II, the two cousins had a son name Saul. Summery: Saul is King Herod's grandson. Per Historic records Saul/Paul could be either King Herod's own son or else King Herod's grandson.
@sidmeyer20113 жыл бұрын
Citing a lack of evidence elsewhere is NOT evidence. It is exactly, and only, a lack of evidence which proves nothing. Historians do not always record everything, or even get everything correct. Trying to use the silence of Josephus as evidence is rather disingenuous.
@Shai-eg6ew3 жыл бұрын
Christianity is the easiest religion, all you have to believe in Jesus as a God and the poor will inherit the land.
@KeepingWatch953 жыл бұрын
@@Shai-eg6ew _Paul fails to follow Jesus. Note: the phrase Christian is started with Paul and Barnabas and in turn their disciples where first called Christians in Antioch._ Acts 11:25 Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul: Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. _Jesus taught his disciples to begin Jerusalem, not Antioch._ Luke 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, *beginning at Jerusalem.* Luke 24:48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
@iqgustavo Жыл бұрын
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:08 🔪 King Herod is notorious for the massacre of the innocence, where he ordered the murder of thousands of babies in an attempt to kill the infant Jesus. 00:52 🤴 Herod, though infamous as a murderer in the Nativity story, was also a shrewd politician and visionary leader during his 37-year rule of Judea, working to maintain peace and transform the region into an international trading state. 02:40 👑 Herod was not of pure Jewish blood; he came from an Arab background, which led to resistance from real Jews who believed that only a descendant of King David could rule over them. 04:21 🌟 Herod's journey to power began when he was groomed for leadership and formed key alliances, particularly with Mark Antony, a powerful Roman figure. 07:32 🎶 Herod married Mariana, a Hasmonean princess, which aimed to legitimize his rule among the Jewish aristocracy despite causing friction within his family. 11:58 💔 Herod faced constant challenges to his authority as many Jews believed that only a descendant of King David was eligible to be their king. 22:55 🤝 After Mark Antony's defeat, Herod sought a new alliance with Octavian, essentially betraying his old patron and pledging loyalty to the new Roman ruler. 26:03 🏛️ Herod's legacy is defined by his monumental construction projects, such as rebuilding the Temple and engineering feats like the mountaintop complex at Masada and the artificial deep seaport at Caesarea. 29:32 🌊 Herod aimed to transform Judea into a major trading nation by building a unique harbor using innovative volcanic ash cement for stability. 32:07 🏛️ Caesarea, built by Herod, was a secular metropolis, serving as a counterpoint to Jerusalem, attracting people from diverse backgrounds. 35:22 🤴 Herod's paranoia and power struggles within his family led to uncertainty over his successor. 38:00 🌟 The story of the Magi and the massacre of the innocents in Bethlehem, though famous, lacks strong historical evidence. 40:55 💀 Herod's physical decay and mental instability in his later years may have contributed to his violent and paranoid actions. 45:40 🤯 Herod's mental deterioration could have been linked to untreated chronic kidney disease, which caused severe discomfort and symptoms like paranoia.
@markboyer63805 жыл бұрын
Given a choice between the Biblical account or the account of modern "academia", I choose to believe what God says in the Bible every time. The slaughter of the innocents fits right in with the lust for power and the paranoiac fear of losing that power and the ruthlessness displayed in attaining and keeping that power that Herod is known for.
@keeshabrown73535 жыл бұрын
You can say that again. I don't have extensive knowledge in the sciences and archeology, but many findings have proven the historical accounts, events, people and places in the Bible. I'll take the Bible over "academia" any day!
@markboyer63805 жыл бұрын
@@keeshabrown7353 You are so right. I read recently of an excavation is Israel that used to be an ancient Philistine settlement where they uncovered an artifact, I think a ceramic chalice or cup, with the name of Goliath on it. Non Biblical confirmation of an actual individual with that name. Kind of like a coffee cup with Michael Jordan printed on it, or another famous person.
@keeshabrown73535 жыл бұрын
@@markboyer6380 COOL
@henryjohnson2803 жыл бұрын
The near east was full of literate people, many who could read and write in several languages. No such event could have happened, and gone totally unrecorded anywhere else, other than by the writer of Matthew.
@gsgidney3 жыл бұрын
The historian Flavius Josephus also wrote about it, not just Matthew. Besides... The Romans censored quite a bit. Also, The non-Christian writer Macrobius, wrote about it as well On hearing that the son of Herod, king of the Jews, had been slain when Herod ordered that all boys in Syria under the age of two to be killed, Augustus said, “It’s better to be Herod’s pig, than his son”
@all-humble-6 жыл бұрын
shalom! unbelievable:at 3:40- this narrator says- the Hasmoneans were direct descendants of King David-?!, the Hasmonean Maccabees are Levites , priests! of the tribe of Levi- ................ while our Great King David was of the tribe of Judah- both Levi and Judah are sons of Jacob/Israel - Israelites, sons of Isaac and of Abraham the Hebrew!, both Levi and Judah are descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - Hebrews/Israelites- they are relatives, family/brothers- of the 12 tribes of Israel,both sons of Jacob/Israel: full brothers -same mother- and so Judah and Levi do not descend from eachother!, the Hasmoneans do not descend from King David with all due respect to the Maccabbees and King David- peace and blessings be upon them both! and so ,how can you make such an blatantly ignorant error on a so called historical documentary?.......??????....????....???, answer whenever your ready to whom it may concern- shalom
@jeanatwood14216 жыл бұрын
That is very true. I wonder why the Hasmoneans were accepted as a kingly family to begin with.
@richardportillo30016 жыл бұрын
@@jeanatwood1421 perhaps it was part of the Story of Christ. Herod needed to be a king
@SoulScribe435 жыл бұрын
Shalom, this was so full of lies, Herod was an edmoite as well not Yishmael.
@jmp01a245 жыл бұрын
It's all fiction from Abraham to Moses. It's a work of fiction, not history.
@greysun70205 жыл бұрын
@@jmp01a24 Yeah sure, a work of fiction, ok.... A good work of fiction so good that it chastises the main characters throughout an entire historical back story and written and told of by ancient historians outside of biblical texts prooving its validity. The Bible is God's story, from his point of view, not the point of view of the Hebrew/Jewish people or characters. The writing itself prooves the hand of God as does the wonderful creation we see in the world all around and above us.
@JCKeternitatis4 жыл бұрын
After the new science research about the story of Syphilis, found in skelettons of the ancient world: it is obvious: he had the Symptoms and Madness of Syphilis.
@shubhamraj99863 жыл бұрын
Is meaning of Jesus is " Jews God save Christian God" 😭😭😭💔💔💔
@justl.i.v.e80953 жыл бұрын
@@shubhamraj9986 you doing nowhere I it'shg
@hilldwler4203 жыл бұрын
Will disagree if he has syphilis , that long, there would be disfigurement, nose , lips etc. history does not record that.
@timmyg443 жыл бұрын
his scratching and heavy drinking might point to a failed liver.