When I'm in a running out of video ideas competition and my opponent is the zombies community
@Stender_10 ай бұрын
Too true 😭😭
@eyezofcopper317210 ай бұрын
Fr…
@marleyhorne758010 ай бұрын
But we still eat up the content anyway.
@Richtofens_revenge10 ай бұрын
Lol
@Step1adder10 ай бұрын
oink oink i LOVE my SLOP i love my half an hour long cod zombies SLOP
@habichuelasrosadas92009 ай бұрын
try ranking how every door opens in zombies
@thechugg43728 ай бұрын
We all know the doors in five win
@typicalfurry27478 ай бұрын
@@thechugg4372no the Kino curtain wins
@mystic_pizza8 ай бұрын
my uncle when he opens up his ass to me for money wins
@glokk.pak-15737 ай бұрын
@@typicalfurry2747you don't purchase it though
@typicalfurry27477 ай бұрын
@glokk.pak-1573 it's a barrier that leads from one area to another that opens upon interacting with it. Just like every other door
@AnfieldAdventures10 ай бұрын
If you’re running out of ideas, try ranking wonder weapons and regular weapons in each individual game so we can get an idea of the best options for each game. It’s hard to rank the thunder gun bc it doesn’t give drops in bo1 but does in bo3. With this format it’s much easier to understand
@Spmario200017 күн бұрын
W comment
@arcticowl109110 ай бұрын
The electric D.I.E. variantgives you a boost to your movement while firing, it makes you move insanely fast
@JackDiamond_FBOW10 ай бұрын
Only with tier 5 speed cola
@joaopedrosouza204910 ай бұрын
And the damage scales as you maintain the gun shooting
@howdothis7 ай бұрын
I like the normal Decompressive Isotopic Estrangement Machine
@lifetimes39722 ай бұрын
What’s funny is that if he remasters this and includes remastered weapons, the jet gun could possibly be the best
@Conner_retardАй бұрын
Bo6 jet gun is the best weapon in that game
@poppinpineapples3481Ай бұрын
So fuckin happy they buffed it, they made it the weapon we always wanted
@lifetimes3972Ай бұрын
@@poppinpineapples3481true
@brianbowen7419 күн бұрын
there's a bo2 remaster??
@frogidty15 күн бұрын
@@brianbowen74bo6
@remyandmjswork10 ай бұрын
Tim I’ve been watching you for so long, I’ve had a kid, discovered I was gay, had gay butt sex for the first time, remarried my wife, done coke, went to jail and your still making content, respect to you
@FarhanKhan-yq1zh10 ай бұрын
what the fuck
@PSquiddy237 ай бұрын
Is bro actually serious
@jonahhogan40304 ай бұрын
same here man
@James262852 ай бұрын
And you still don't know the difference between your and you're 😞
@SleepingImp_2 ай бұрын
Watching this after bo6 I'm wondering where the jet gun is now
@qwwxxq2 ай бұрын
no seriously but he said in its prime and og 💔
@BrainDeadMMA24 күн бұрын
The bo6 jetgun has to be in the top 5. It really is insanely op when used correctly
@MovieFusion10 ай бұрын
The thing is, those Cold War WW's wouldn't be nearly as good in other games. They are only so OP because CW itself is so easy.
@broadbunny54729 ай бұрын
Semi agree but the Die weapon is the only weapon that has infinite ammo even with no drops and because is reload dmg is % that alone make is infinite dmg. By no drops I literally mean nothing no scrap/max ammo/shards/attachments/map dependence
@mecxu7619 ай бұрын
@@broadbunny5472 the die is not infinte dmg without Ring Of Fire & the sucking ability is % not infinite dmg either the only Die having infinite dmg is the fire one
@mecxu7619 ай бұрын
@@broadbunny5472 the raik is the only infinte dmg in cw which never drop without Ring Of Fire compare to the other cw ww that stuggles on healt cap
@Crimzon-9 ай бұрын
Nah the forsaken ww is actually good
@mecxu7619 ай бұрын
@@Crimzon- it's not in high rounds it kill so slow compare to the rai k & this is without RING OF FIRE !!!!!
@josephcirrincone959610 ай бұрын
I'm happy that the Cold War wonder weapons ranked as high as they did
@Richtofens_revenge10 ай бұрын
🔥
@dryfizz996910 ай бұрын
im not, game is buns
@goobergoon617710 ай бұрын
yeah they were really op but they sucked to use
@my_dixienormous917910 ай бұрын
❤
@deputyrook623210 ай бұрын
it's natural, the other games' (except BO4) zombies' health would increase infinitely until the game couldn't handle it anymore and crashed, which means at some point, unless the WW naturally had infinite damage, it would stop 1 shotting or even feel like it wouldn't deal any damage at all. whereas CW's zombies' heamth would cap out at a specific round and that gave a lot more control to the devs over the damage numbers that the weapons were supopsed to deal. it made sure that the WW PaP'd 3 times would always be effective, but would still need to be PaP'd 3 times in order to be effective in those later rounds. BO4 also had a cap on zombie health but its WW aren't that good.
@juneJumperАй бұрын
1:50 little does he know it'd be top 5 now..
@zdot_lazyАй бұрын
Number 1 actually
@captainkill219 ай бұрын
The GTFO of my way factor of the Thundergun will always give you the biggest power trip. Playing Kino in 2010 while listening to 115 & using the thundergun was pure perfection 👌
@jaceb31069 ай бұрын
I’m a little confused. You knock the Ray Gun for not evolving with the game mode and keeping up while specifically not counting when it was improved to keep up with the evolving game mode?
@Leo42.0697 ай бұрын
He said no remakes to be fair
@Noah-11.216 ай бұрын
@@Leo42.069yet he put the apothucon servant as the revelations version... yeah... if he's gonna take off points because the old ray gun is worse than the new one then why allow the apothicon servant to use the revelations version just to pack a punch
@daddyoregano10015 ай бұрын
@@Noah-11.21counter point: the servant was only in that one game and got its “upgrade” in another map, while the raygun was basically the same for waw up until cw. took it YEARS to get the much needed attention it required
@daddyoregano10015 ай бұрын
@@Noah-11.21not to say your point isnt valid because i do somewhat agree but i think its okay for him to use the rev version considering the weapon itself debuted in the same game
@chachingboy13 ай бұрын
@@Noah-11.21 He specifically said "The weapon will be fully upgraded" and "the weapon will be in it's OG form" Meaning the Servant in Revelations is totally valid under these rules as it can only be fully upgraded in Revelations AND it's still in it's OG form (Besides the ability to upgrade it via PaP it remains unchanged). For the Ray Gun this would be Der Riese as it meets both these criteria.
@madshr3dar80910 ай бұрын
how many times has bro done this
@lordcraigdragneel13610 ай бұрын
3 i think.
@baconwhopper10 ай бұрын
Ihvaviuaivhohva I think a few times
@TimHansenYT10 ай бұрын
literally one other time LOL
@TravisScottFan___10 ай бұрын
Once lol
@madshr3dar80910 ай бұрын
@@TimHansenYT oh mb thought it was more😭
@kellibeckwith99510 ай бұрын
Only real Timothy fans can like this❤
@engulfedcolt198510 ай бұрын
Shush
@josephlondono10 ай бұрын
Sthu
@engulfedcolt198510 ай бұрын
Like dude it don't matter
@cam935n10 ай бұрын
Don't like your own then
@Bigolcheeser10 ай бұрын
This comment is literally just a like bait comment..
@215Gym10 ай бұрын
New Tim video + new lex reaction 👀 W
@olivermensinger602210 ай бұрын
You wouldn’t expect anything else.
@cam935n10 ай бұрын
One of these youtubers has fallen off
@Deathmare23510 ай бұрын
@@cam935nand also been doing it for much, much longer
@jasongrondin32599 ай бұрын
@@cam935nScrew that drama crap. Literally doesn't matter
@cam935n9 ай бұрын
@@jasongrondin3259 so if the drama was about something illegal it wouldn't matter?
@115Bringer-126 ай бұрын
The M2 Flamethrower is technically a wonder weapon and so are the Monkey Bombs
@DeeBrown123910 ай бұрын
You should do a 11 year memorial of black ops 2, the last ones were class.
@jonnycarcano10 ай бұрын
Memorial? Wait, did they stop supporting it?
@adriansgaminguniverse49519 ай бұрын
@@jonnycarcano the game is … 11 years old and is a COD game. Yeah safe to say that it’s not supported anymore
@jonnycarcano9 ай бұрын
@@adriansgaminguniverse4951 That can't be right, I was able to do Custom games on my PS3 just now.
@adriansgaminguniverse49519 ай бұрын
@@jonnycarcano oh my bad I thought you meant “supported” as in it gets updated consistently still I didn’t know what you meant
@jonnycarcano9 ай бұрын
@@adriansgaminguniverse4951 It's okay. I'm just glad the servers are still up.
@thanda9910 ай бұрын
Technically the Thundergun and the Apothicon Servant are the best ww to get you to high rounds since you are almost invincible with them. So, they are capable of carrying you to high rounds more than other ww’s can do, even though they can lead to less kills.
@wavyplayz972710 ай бұрын
Ice staff better
@akaron549810 ай бұрын
nah. If you cant get drops with it, the WW doesn’t have the endurance to get you to high rounds
@jarrettmaynard630610 ай бұрын
Alistair's Annihilator is statistically the best WW of all time
@codenasodqueen9 ай бұрын
Finally someone has common sense thundergun and servant are imo the most op because you can get surrounded with all the top weapons they don’t make you invincible only the Apothicon does and ww
@jakesnussbuster35658 ай бұрын
@@jarrettmaynard6306 exalted charon is better
@ElementBruv10 ай бұрын
ranking every thug shake
@BurgerMan20994 ай бұрын
Fr
@ravensmansand828510 ай бұрын
The wunderwaffe sniper thing, is not even hard to use, my theory is most haven’t tried to use it very much, it arcs to like 11 zombies for every headshot and has so much ammo, its obviously godlike, it’s not the best at saving you but killing very good
@redsworkshop2 ай бұрын
Good thing he didn't include remasters because the jet gun eats now. 🤣
@KrazyRabb1t10 ай бұрын
Tim gey
@rainehill-pl3fb10 ай бұрын
we all know your gey for him
@ChosenRogue10 ай бұрын
No you!
@ricoslicer12610 ай бұрын
Real.
@eatyourcereal762410 ай бұрын
Bro commented before the video released
@TheRedDedPlyr10 ай бұрын
Wascally wabbit
@wolfenher693710 ай бұрын
For Number 34, I don’t know if you notice it but the Scavenger uses the same animations like the Intervention from the OG MW2. Reloading and the bolt action wise is quite almost the same.
@be_wa2 ай бұрын
Its funny watching jet gun going all the way up the tier list in bo6
@friendlyneighborhooddemon6983Ай бұрын
Listening to this after the release of Black Ops 6 with the Jet Gun is crazy because the bo6 version is insane
@Nxbxdy.3 ай бұрын
Lightning and fire staff below wind staff? Thats wild
@NygesOverlordАй бұрын
Lmao he said the Wind Staff had infinite damage but the footage showed him needing 2 shots to kill zombies 😂
@sadovuato5 ай бұрын
Nothing pleases me more than seeing my all time favorite wonder weapon get 1st place. It's not even cuz it's good, it's just the most fun weapon to use. The flying ball shooting things is just so fantastic looking. It's so fun. Different modes which are all fun to use... AND IT TALKS TO YOU LMAOOOO
@DJAK79210 ай бұрын
Timmy is back boys!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
@bankshot41929 ай бұрын
2:55 technically the VR 11 has infinite damage, but only to one zombie because it does turn the zombie into a human and then it dies.
@voidastralbirth2 ай бұрын
1:30 This is really funny.
@discordmemes12312 ай бұрын
fr now its considerd one of the best 🤣
@hunterkillerstudios4 ай бұрын
I don’t ever wanna see the RayGun Mark 2 in the worst category because it is the definition of a Top Tier wonder weapon.
@nathanielweber78433 ай бұрын
While it isn’t the best by damage, the Wonderful waffle will always be my favorite
@ethangerstein253410 ай бұрын
the electric DIE variant has damage rampup the longer you fire it, and i believe it can get to infinite
@bennygairns22355 ай бұрын
It's been so long since I played cod zombies, it feels like time just zoomed right by.
@CharredT045T6 ай бұрын
The paralyzer is basically just Jet Gun mk2. Its like Treyarch liked the idea but couldnt get it down the first time.
@mattj57562 ай бұрын
Not anymore Timmy not anymore
@theawesomnes384810 ай бұрын
The tundra gun being over the thunder gun is a crime
@athanasiospapadopoulos658210 ай бұрын
The Tundragun is objectively better than the Thundergun.
@RetroX610 ай бұрын
the tundragun can kill a whole horde of 24 if you shoot it at the ground. It does infinite damage and has higher kill potential than the thundergun. The only bad thing about it is the splash damage and the fact that it doesn't blow zombies away.
@WhoGaveOrangeAPen2 ай бұрын
Damm looking back now jet gun is one of the best wonder weapons thanks to bo6 buff
@AiRsTrIkExXzZ9 ай бұрын
I used to play alpha omega with the lightning ray gun and would camp on the green house “balcony”(the weird white mesh thing in the front of the house not back). I’d throw down wraith fires and use the ray gun to kill zombies then sometimes use the ragnaroks so I could recharge the ray gun
@jus__gra10 ай бұрын
Honestly couldn’t disagree with that list, although hearing some made me realise I got to revisit some of the older cods for zombies.
@shock_cynnx90222 ай бұрын
Pre nerf siliquifier is easily the goat
@Luke-295410 ай бұрын
Bro doesn't know that the Electric Die has an indefinitely increasing amount of damage output when the trigger is held down and he doesn't know that if you're firing the Electric Die and have Stam and Speed Cola you can sprint stupid insanely fast lol
@Gunther69420Ай бұрын
That is irrelevant when you run out of ammo quicker than the thunder gun
@emoneysnipe866710 ай бұрын
“Babe wake up, Tim Hansen uploaded a vid”
@krisdeltatraveler4 ай бұрын
The Apothicon servant is more like a lifeline tool rather than for actually killing zombies by itself. I think when used at the same time in tandem with your other guns /w alternate ammo types, its very effective at getting you to high rounds, i think that should be a factor on how good a WW is as well
@ayyotrippy34402 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if tim will rearranged the jet gun
@blastoiseboy81772 ай бұрын
Best doesnt mean the possibility of killing sometimes being clutch and more realistic situations matter more
@raidstach9 ай бұрын
Make more of this series these have always been my favorite
@jonnycarcano10 ай бұрын
It pains me to see the Blundergat ranked so low, since it's one of my favorites. It's essentially just a four-barreled shotgun that goes off all at once. It's so simple, yet so brutal. I also love the RAI K84, since it's literally just an AK-74 receiver with a bunch of other shit shoved into it.
@mittss10 ай бұрын
hot takes about the cold war wonder weapons just because they made the game easier by giving multiple ways to replenish ammo doesn't mean the WW's are better than others that also have infinite damage
@ramandosula904210 ай бұрын
Bro included that for the Cold War wonder weapons but didn’t even give the bo3 ones alchem smh
@Deathmare23510 ай бұрын
The cw weapons are still really good cause of the damage cap, though the ammo is a big reason why they’re on top
@ramandosula904210 ай бұрын
@@Deathmare235 apothican with my 25 powervacs clear 🥱
@mecxu7619 ай бұрын
The rai k is infinte dmg & stun all zombies & mini bosses
@Deathmare2359 ай бұрын
@@mecxu761 it doesn’t have good area control though
@inductivegrunt9410 ай бұрын
Always great to see Tim Zombies videos! And him ranking stuff in Zombies is always fun to watch.
@lukeboseck98164 ай бұрын
Virtralic withering at 32 is insane
@athanasiospapadopoulos658210 ай бұрын
Seeing the Tundragun and Wunderwaffe DG-Scharfschütze getting ranked so highly and seeing people getting miffed about it is so great. People just need to realize that those two wonder weapons are just objectively better than the originals.
@mariomaster2172 ай бұрын
This list is out of date as I assume you know and I know you said no remastered but the new jet gun is built different
@achilles810 ай бұрын
12:05 does it mean you never succeed??? what is this analogy and this list, by the logic of the list any bo3 wall weapon with dead wire would be number because it can technically get infinite kills. Also i don’t get why you count the ammo drops on cold war but not alchem.
@Gunther69420Ай бұрын
Alchem is not something you get all the time.
@TeiganSnyder7 ай бұрын
Not to mention the winters howl can’t even break the windows on five
@michaelmamba15788 ай бұрын
Funny how it’s the same list but we come back to it every time
@pastorsleep8 ай бұрын
fun fact the thundergun was actually a prototype and the complete version would be able to destroy planets😂😂
@cooltravis694510 ай бұрын
I think the kt4 should be higher only because everyone on coop can get it from the box. So everyone can have the kt4
@Ben-jitsu235 ай бұрын
And the fact that it instantly destroys spider webs, helps with planting, vital for the Easter egg and if you shoot spores it makes you run faster. No other wonder weapon is integrated into the map better than the KT-4
@masondixit226410 ай бұрын
Most original zombies content in 2024
@RYGUYD2310 ай бұрын
Love this video so much. Love that there’s zero bias and all stat based which I feel like most zombies yt do
@Ai1-Yami7 ай бұрын
I just got back into zombies and I remember watching you when you just had a kid shit is crazy yo
@SprkyGamer5 ай бұрын
I respect that you want to rank the og versions of each gun but can you please do a ranking of every wonder weapon with every version of every reused weapon? So that we can accurately and definitively say what fun is best in each game and scenario? I want to know how the revamped version compares to the old and to other weapons in the same game and yes I do mean that includes every version of the ray gun
@udamthewaster945410 ай бұрын
Krazyrabb1t fans can only like 💗
@jakobanderson62139 күн бұрын
I like the rage bait thumbnail 😂
@stormtroopertk88 ай бұрын
I love how the top 3 Wonderweapons are all from Cold War which is pretty cool
@jarrettmaynard630610 ай бұрын
Tim the Alistair's Annihilator is the strongest WW of all time, especially with the discovery of the infinite ammo and perkaholic EE it means technically you have an infinite ammo WW and infinite ammo. Literally cannot die.
@daevilwon442810 ай бұрын
Rabbit would be so proud of this tier list just because you explained the rules
@sasacolic428610 ай бұрын
WAKE UP TIM UPLOADED
@robbieturner8020Ай бұрын
What’s funny is the bo6 jet gun would be 1 on this list
@frogidty22 күн бұрын
Yeah if it was out 9 months ago.
@LordDumbash10 ай бұрын
Probably better named worst to best wonder weapons for high rounds
@that1evanguy98510 ай бұрын
Nice to see you back Timmy
@dxruma67925 ай бұрын
ice staff does have infinite dammage, the frozen zombies are due to a glitch in bo2 engine and in fact it also affects the wind staff by making zombies invisible or crawlers depending if you activated the ragdolls in the setings
@Iragealotishere10 ай бұрын
I feel like timmy has done this a thousand times already
@Hypah10 ай бұрын
Based CRBR-S is the GOATED wonder weapon
@endermancookie574810 ай бұрын
Tim you and rabbit should do a 1 door buy challenge. Basically its like starting room challenge but you can buy one door/section of the map
@larpu62052 ай бұрын
For the next inevitable ranking, you should rank bo4 weapons in hardcore mode, as zombie health does not cap there
@mpxlearn78766 ай бұрын
Best thing about death of Orion was the spam shoot. If you spammed reload, you could shoot at an insane rate and obliterate blight fathers and the other boss zombies
@germans_lol72596 күн бұрын
In outbreak, poison is the best if ur using a different weapon for rifle dmg bc the poison can be used good in defense objectives. Essentially it acts like a poison bush power
@MothsuneАй бұрын
17:04 thunder is easily the 2nd worst, as it has a pierce cap and its THE worst for killing panzers so camping doesn't matter when you can't kill a panzer with it.
@davidnutting67352 ай бұрын
I know I'm way late to the comments on this one. But the jet gun is way better in Black ops 6 now.
@JohnFKennedyforeverКүн бұрын
20:05 Fuck yeah Tim always been my KZbinr, best alpha omega wonder weapon always shit on amazing
@NmN-t6q10 ай бұрын
Haven’t you made this video before like 3 times (i will watch it anyways)
@ryanboss465710 ай бұрын
You Rabbit and Lex need to do a series playing the non-treyarch titles😂
@AnonymouslyPoignant10 ай бұрын
Love how I just got on YT and I see a Tim upload😊
@ethanjean684010 ай бұрын
Would you and Rabbit ever bring back the “first time playing” series? Maybe play “new DLC maps” for the first time? Those videos were so good and I love your acting while trying to stay in character. Keep it the great work.
@ronaldyoung28810 ай бұрын
Everytime tim uploads im legitimately excited, same with rabbit
@needlemouse926610 ай бұрын
Iron deficiency gang stand up🔥🔥🔥
@aaaflat10 ай бұрын
ok gang
@JPMusic1159 ай бұрын
*falls down because of iron deficiency*
@MATERHATER377 ай бұрын
the fact that the ray gun is at the bottom blows my mind ngl. its atleast 7 in my list
@bagofish851110 ай бұрын
Been watching you for so long on and off and never noticed you had a million subs congrats bro👍🏻
@marcosortiz246610 ай бұрын
I just started the video but if Tim refers the sliquifiers slipperyness as “a catalyst to your own demise” I’ll liquidate all my assets
@captainkill219 ай бұрын
Glad the CRBS got love. They wonder weapon is so fun to use and Mauer is the perfect map for it. So underrated
@rxssum6 ай бұрын
Ik VG sucks but the decimator shield is a good ass wonder weapon, very fun to use can kill an entire horde, very good for high rounds. They even buffed it a bunch to make it even better, (use to have a really long cooldown between uses, but they made it much less of a cooldown)
@rohuffgamingakaLea157610 ай бұрын
Supposedly the WaW PaP'd Wunderwaffe DG-2 could kill 24 zombies per shot. Also how do you have over 40 shots for Pap'd DG-2 in reserve in WaW? It should have 36 total.
@ZombieSlayer-dj3wb10 ай бұрын
Mods
@Zynoris10 ай бұрын
*_I’m surprised this guy doesn’t get bored of zombies._*
@OneFunIdiot10 ай бұрын
Anytime you upload I’m here dude. Fav KZbinr fr.
@juneJumperАй бұрын
The Hell's Redeemer should classify as a Wonder Weapon I feel
@eduardorobles726110 ай бұрын
Everyone’s talking about how you’re doing zombies content like it’s a problem, I enjoy the vid and Tim’s therapeutic voice
@alcoholically42807 ай бұрын
The Thundergun is one of if not the BEST wonder weapon introduction. Ray gun is the best only bc it’s the first when CoD was as barebones as it could get and it’s iconic, but the fact that if you feel as though ur cornered and you can just rely on switching to ur secondary with ONE tap is and everything in front of you is just blown away? Kids today will NEVER know that WaW “I GOT THE RAY GUN” feeling or that Bo1 “HOLY SHIT I GOT THE THUNDERGUN” feeling. The days man
@VernalBoi7 ай бұрын
apothicon servant: 🗿
@monhi644 ай бұрын
The only negative I can say about the thundergun is it was fairly common so it never felt that insane to get. I distinctly remember in coop it was just a battle of who got the thundergun first because it was just an inevitability with multiple people spinning the mystery box that someone was gonna get it, and it’d probably be on round 12 or something like that. Not that I like how absurdly rare the ray gun was in Cold War but it definitely made receiving it feel like a divine gift. I probably played 20 hours of cold war zombies and can’t even remember for sure if I ever got it
@alcoholically42804 ай бұрын
@@VernalBoi Bo3 had hella hype but not like how it used to be and Thundergun still would immediately wipe everything. Apothican Servant is a beast too, but it has lower ammo count n zombies can still swipe you at the last second even after you shoot. Thundergun and Apothican Servant are hands down the best/most op/easy to use
@Gunther69420Ай бұрын
You can make a point without trying to downplay others that experience something different than you
@VernalBoi29 күн бұрын
@@alcoholically4280 I mean the black hole lasts long, about 10/15 seconds when it’s upgraded, and it does kill more than the thundergun but yes, it has 10 less ammo.
@Cloaksッ10 ай бұрын
Tim back at it again
@ElijahCastillo-x4b10 ай бұрын
I can understand the scharfschutze over the og dg2, but the tundragun over the thundergun is a debate, the thundergun doesnt produce drops but when a guaranteed max ammo dog round is every 5-7 rounds thats at least one powerup to not worry about never getting while beimg an infinite damage weapon, the tundragun may be infinite damage, but it also has splash damage which of course can be negated if you run phd, but in the sense of running a game of tag which both guns are in it, id rather aim to get that thundergun every time.
@Gunther69420Ай бұрын
The tundragun is objectively better, there is no debating.