Timing of Autumn pruning of Your Deciduous Bonsai

[@marosbonsai]

Im working on my trees for over 15 years. I'm growing my own material from cuttings, airlayers, collected trees from the wild, garden trees etc. I'm pretty sure I know what I can do to my trees and when. Can I do some things wrongly or in bad time? Sure? But I share what I do, when I do it and I think I have the results to back my approach. I'm one of those who is against categorical timing for certain tasks in bonsai. I believe the windows of opportunity for different tasks and species are much bigger than most folks think. I'm absolutely sure I did not hurt my plant from the video, and the tree will do just fine. Any advice I gave was meant to help those who are looking for some general guidance. And there are people who actually do. You have to also understand, that although there may be the best time for something, not always it is possible. The majority of bonsai folks are amateurs, like myself. People have lives, jobs, families and health issues, various commitments etc. This is just the reality of life, and most of people must stay flexible for those very reasons. So to stay factual: description of my video explicitly writes: "In this video, I'm answering Daniels question about good timing for pruning broadleaf deciduous bonsai in Central Europe." 1. Book: Andrea Meriggioli - Bonsai Maples, book is considered to be one of the best overall books on bonsai. Probably the best book on Acer Palmatum/Acer buergerianum currently available in the west. Chapter 10, 10.5 Pruning Pages 226-235 "On Momiji, instead, end-of-winter pruning goes from about mid-February to the beginning of March, summer pruning is an activity of June and July, while autumn pruning is carried out from mid-November to mid-December. " 2. Video of Ryan Neil, Fall Deciduous Bonsai Maintenance roughly from minute 4:00 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4q3mHV8g9aMebcsi=KAZu_FPXO_0XBDYm&t=279 3. Video of Andrew Robson, co-owner of prominent bonsai nursery in Pacific Northwest, USA (similar climate as Central Europe, even more wet) When to Trim Deciduous Bonsai in Fall, and All About Katsura Bonsai roughly from minute 5:00 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6CqmaSJhbV_osksi=9x5z3v0Lb9sDrGwJ&t=314 Andrew is talking about his own first hand experiences, in second generation family of bonsai professionals.

[@rubber800]

always a pleasure. bravo video.

[@marosbonsai]

Thanks 👍

[@bafatakisa]

What true words, looking at the tree from a distance and from different angles, over days and weeks, and only then reaching for the scissors - that's exactly what I've learned after 43 years with bonsai, serenity.

[@marosbonsai]

Well said! Skill and patience helps.

[@taksakabonsai5059]

Great tree❤

[@marosbonsai]

Thanks 👍

[@KennetDeBondt]

Good job, nice tree!

[@marosbonsai]

Thank you!

[@bonsai-zone]

Autumn and winter is the worse time for pruning deciduous trees, because the trees are in dormancy and do not close any cuts or wounds quickly. It's cold and wet ... it's the best time for bacteria and fungi to reach the tree through nonhealed cuts. It's also the worse time for repotting. Same reason.

[@marosbonsai]

Frank, it is OK to disagree with me. The problem is if you find yourself disagreeing with general consensus. Here, I would say your comment is categorical, which I find a bit problematic. Fact is, general consensus is that both beginning-mid of autumn AND then again beginning of spring are considered good times to work on deciduous species. Devil is hidden in the details, probably. Are we talking about removing large branches, then autumn is suboptimal, sure. But for maintenance work, it is perfectly fine if you keep enough stubs so trees can recede some energy from them, and you are not going to lose buds close to the cut.

[@bonsai-zone]

@@marosbonsai It's absolutely ok for me when the majority is doing things wrong. They will have weak trees that are dying when they are doing wrong things too often. The problem is, that bonsai people are thinking how bonsai people told them, not what is logical and proven by science. They cut there trees rather when there is nothing else to do or when they have time ... instead of the best time for the tree. It is consensus with arborists NOT to cut trees when they are in dormancy, for the reasons I stated. Did you see any tree beside a street which was cut back by arborists in winter ? No, they cut them back after the second flush or at the end of the growing season, when the tree is still active and has time to close the wounds. Same with repotting. Bonsai people tend to repot and cut the roots in Winter or way before the first flush. Did you see any gardener cutting the roots of a plant in winter ? No, they don't. For the same reasons. BTW: It seems to be general consensus to do things at a special time of the calendar. Do this in autumn, do this in April, do that in May. It's consensus ... but it cannot be more wrong. Nature has no monthly "orientation", trees neither. They don't care about our names for a month or our human calendar. The climate is different around the world, winter and summer are different, microclimate is different from garden to garden. Every species is different, every tree is different, even if it is the same species as another one. Human times do not work. You need to read each tree to learn what you can do with a tree. You need to understand how trees work. You need to see, what a tree is currently doing, what it's problem or potential or possibility is. If it's healthy, has enough power and what it will do in the next weeks. A general description like "Timing of Autumn pruning" does not help. _f.e.: what are people living around the equator think about "Autumn" ?_

[@marosbonsai]

Im working on my trees for over 15 years. I'm growing my own material from cuttings, airlayers, collected trees from wild, garden trees etc. I'm pretty sure I know what I can do to my trees and when. Can I do some things wrongly or in bad time? Sure? But I share what I do, when I do it and I think I have the results to back my approach. Im one of those who is against categorical timing for certain tasks in bonsai. I believe the windows of opportunity for different tasks and species are much bigger, than most of the folks think. I'm absolutely sure I did not hurt my plant from the video, and the tree will do just fine. Any advice I gave was meant to help those who are looking for some general guidance. And there are people who actually do. You have to also understand, that although there may be best time for something, not always it is possible. Majority of bonsai folks are amateurs, like myself. People have lives, jobs, families and health issues, various commitments etc. This is just reality of life, and most of the people must stay flexible for those very reasons. So to stay factual: description of my video explicitly writes: "In this video I'm answering Daniels question about good timing for pruning broadleaf deciduous bonsai in Central Europe." 1. Book: Andrea Meriggioli - Bonsai Maples, book is considered to be one of the best overall books on bonsai. Probably best book on Acer Palmatum/Acer buergerianum currently available in the west. Chapter 10, 10.5 Pruning Pages 226-235 "On Momiji, instead, end-of-winter pruning goes from about mid-February to the beginning of March, summer pruning is an activity of June and July, while autumn pruning is carried out from mid-November to mid-December. " 2. Video of Ryan Neil, Fall Deciduous Bonsai Maintenance roughly from minute 4:00 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4q3mHV8g9aMebcsi=KAZu_FPXO_0XBDYm&t=279 3. Video of Andrew Robson, co-owner of prominent bonsai nursery in Pacific Northwest, USA (similar climate as Central Europe, even more wet) When to Trim Deciduous Bonsai in Fall, and All About Katsura Bonsai roughly from minute 5:00 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6CqmaSJhbV_osksi=9x5z3v0Lb9sDrGwJ&t=314 Andrew is talking about his own first hand experiences, in second generation family of bonsai professionals. I'm not denying anyone opportunity to share his approach, and vision on his own page or channel. We are luckily living in a free society, so far. Feel free to make a video about your ideas about this topic and your experience.

[@TheMysticDeep]

Distracting music has returned, so incredibly annoying. I quit watching.

[@marosbonsai]

Sorry to disappoint you. Based on all metrics, it is best performing video from at least the last 10. So, most probably, the quiet music is not distracting for everyone.

[@lilnoir4213]

@@marosbonsai I enjoyed the music, but it could be a little bit more in the backround. Thanks for the knowledge !