TIMTHETATMAN REACTS TO WHY MULTIPLAYER GAMES AREN'T FUN ANYMORE

[@ZenkaiGoose]

TIMMY THE TAT MAN TAYLOR AT IT AGAIN! All I have to say is big thanks again for the support and I'm so sorry about the cringe of my OG videos 😂😂😂 I died inside watching this myself haha I would definitely advise more recent ones hahah I still really appreciate the shoutout, cheers Timmy

[@MR.takeyaPayday]

Crazy y’all ain’t liking this comment literally dude himself 💀💀💀

[@MR.takeyaPayday]

Wassssgood tho

[@FoxtrotWTA]

Took a break from Warzone and other online games back in January. Been having a blast playing some singleplayer RPGs and story related games. Cant see myself going back to online games until something seriously changes.

[@chickenpho3nix614]

Fr!

[@Craigkelso9187]

Same but last February. Never been happier video game-wise

[@coltonlindenman7255]

Yeah played injustice 2 story mode shi was so refreshing omg 😂

[@sleepyluvers]

same playing red dead redemption 2 at the moment, chapter 2

[@Ethan13-]

Seriously, playing RPGs had changed my attitude towards gaming

[@X00Penguin00X]

Community…all my video game friends back in day were in the same lobbies and leaderboards…the trash talking was more accepted…But yet we still genuinely liked playing with and versus each other…with lobbies changing every game it’s hard to recreate that. ready up, if you know you know

[@lightningrose1345]

The in good fun trash talk disappeared and genuine hate for fellow players replaced it. Its sad that the current era of gamers have so much negativity at all times in their games.

[@chadhowell1328]

@@lightningrose1345I’m sure most are so hateful because they know they won’t hear from that person in that lobby ever again. They fly off the handle because in a few minutes they won’t even remember their name and for some reason they love that

[@ryanptf3998]

for me a big reason multiplayers games aren't that much fun anymore is because 95% of the player base's seem to want to be the next shroud/Jowo and thinking they are always playing for 1mill and don't seem to want to play for the fun of the game

[@adam-z9e2j]

nah take those rose tinted glasses off, back 15 years ago everyone still wanted to sweat and win. the only difference was how much harder it was to know the meta or most optimal tactics for those games so players were worse

[@ryanptf3998]

@@adam-z9e2j fair point

[@JLLullaby]

@@adam-z9e2jnot true, we had sweats back then but because you couldn’t make a living off of it way less sweats existed in comparison. I attribute the growth of sweats to Fortnite and the very first cash cup showcasing that gaming can make you a very lucrative living

[@Swervin_Daily98]

Gaming has changed so much, I remember meeting my group on nba 2k and we use to play everyday but like tim said as you get older things start to change my group doesn't even really get on video games anymore and it's just crazy how these things develop. Obviously gaming has always been something I adore and I'm gonna continue to game but wow have things changed dramatically.

[@XavierShade]

I feel you Tim. Going from Pac Man and Doom, to Rocket League and COD was a huge difference. When we were playing Halo 2 and CS 1.6 VOIP was new, people were excited to talk to each other, and the most toxic it got was talking about each other's mothers like Goose mentioned. Nowadays, there are people that spend more time coming up with heinous shit to say than actually playing the game. They act like they're going to win some kind of award if they find a way to hurt someone's feelings and they are the main reason developers would rather skip spending time adding features like that just to end up with their game in a headline because, some Twitter Twat decided to threaten people. adding features like that just to end up with their game in a headline because some Twitter Twat decided to threaten people.

[@ryanrussell5322]

I use to love Halo 2 prox chat. You could legit get some pretty good jump scares sneaking around getting up next to the enemy team. Good times

[@XavierShade]

5:35 when the top gets sloppy 🤣

[@SweetSurrender_]

SOCOM Confrontation is my earliest of memories for Prox Chat.. doing SOCOM Clan Battles/ Tournaments back in the day were interesting and fun

[@semajyo9628]

11:17 the way he says recreational kills me

[@illimitabilities]

I don't think it's possible to narrow it down to a couple reasons why multiplayer games aren't fun anymore. Communication and community is part of it, but I think the novelty and newness wore off from talking to an entire lobby. People don't want to hear the arguing, random music, obnoxious kids, or any other negative variant. It's easier to jump in a party chat with people you like and want to bullshit with. The most successful multiplayer games just feel stale now. We know they're going to release a new game or season every single year, with minor adjustments, the same stale gameplay, and the same challenges to unlock new versions on items/skins. There hasn't been a huge shake up in what multiplayer games offer in a long time. It's the same cycle of buy, grind, buy grind, buy, grind. In the process, people are in a mad dash to unlock things to keep up with the jonses, rather than playing the game because it's fun. They mostly feel like checklists. There is no yearning for a huge no release after a 3 year hiatus, with new ideas and technology. To make it worse, they monetization of these games it outrageous. Super expensive microtransactions pollute multiplayer, rather than offering them behind fun missions or challenges. Hell, sports games are glorified slot machines to just play with your favorite players. It's all designed to be easily digested with long grinds to keep players hooked, while they blast you with splash screens to buy their shit. It's gross. The last example might be a tough pill to swallow, but content creators have obliterated some of the landscape of games. Every new game/update has numerous people uploading broken builds and meta's within a couple hours. Secrets are posted instantly. People spend less and less time exploring the game and more time diving right in to the most broken shit in the game. Too many people feel like they have to be operating at peak efficiency at all times, otherwise you're wasting their time. When money became easily and readily available just for people that were good at the game, the casual population diminished instantly. People now make an insane living by playing a game for 8 hours a day, which means you're incredibly likely to get smoked by more and more people who play "professionally". I'd argue that's exactly why so many developers thought sbmm would work. For any game to be fun. To wrap up this long rambling post - you can change some things, but others are too far gone. Things will mostly stay the same until there is a huge industry shake up, which I don't see happening any time soon. I've learned to enjoy single player games again and look back on multiplayer games with fond memories, but they aren't for me anymore.

[@ICEM4NIII1]

Party chat is what has killed online gaming. I live in the UK and I have friends in Ohio, because I met one back on Rainbow Six Vegas coop campaign, spoke in game, added him as a friend and now 15years later still good buddies, friends with other members of his family, flown over to meet them all numerous times and now I just sit in a party talking to people I already know because I don't want to listen to the high levels of toxicity that is found in game chat these days aswell

[@redwiltshire1816]

Nah i actually gotta disagree so many good indi games out there and the finals is so much fun I can actually play and just have fun with the game

[@ARjosh4]

Back on OG MW2, it was at night with the boys getting on to have fun and talk some smack if we had to. Now with every online game it's too competitive. Which I like to an extent. Miss just having fun with the friends though.

[@Droid4236]

From a fellows 90s born you are absolutely correct sir about the glory days of gaming from super Nintendo,N64,sega genesis, dreamcast, an even a better throw back when we went to arcades when we where really young.

[@ItzGeoDude]

In terms of communications: as great as Discord and PS party chat and XBox party chats are, they’re 100% the main culprits. We no longer sit in global lobby chats and talk. Now we just sit in discord and talk to our already friends or no nobody at all

[@Prod.MelzyMelodies]

I just miss being able to have my mic OFF push to talk and shit talking the game as a squeaker without being told “stop yappin lil bro”

[@prokop43]

I've been playing with the same dudes for the last 17 years (since we were 14 and on cod4). It isn't the lack of community that makes the games boring. It's the fact people can just pre aim everything or all have insane movement. There's nothing for the casual gamer anymore. We can't just get on and have fun without going up against someone who can wipe the entire team themselves. We're old and just want to have fun. Can't do that anymore.

[@amberheardslawyerprofessor5266]

Keyword your old.

[@camerondp9884]

@timthetatman Halo 2 not only had prox chat but literally invented almost every modern social feature used in every game today, people were obsessed with halo 2 for a very good reason back in the day. You should listen to the making of halo 2 with max hobberman it’s really good

[@Vhs_Godd]

I say ppl are less happy to like ppl complain bout one thing it’ll get fix and 1 they still complain or find something else

[@jasonanthony165]

The idea that games mute chat to stay safe makes no sense to me at all. Game devs aren’t responsible for what is said by players when they play the game.

[@AndrewShameful]

I agree. Is Apple at fault when my wife calls me a small w*****, good for nothing b****? Lol

[@CDNJacobIRL]

TIM GO GIVE GOOSE A FOLLOW!

[@toxicreaperpr2443]

Probably with games is not being finished and SBMM

[@Something-Somes]

@TIM After watching and reading some of these comments... I am 10 years older than many here and the idea of glory days of gaming is subjective. I grew up with the first consoles and the very first PC's. None of these had online but I rarely wanted to play without friends. When I started playing online it was only with friends I knew. We always had our own clique and kinda stuck to it most of the time. Back then there was more pride in team based activities. We trash talked a bit but it was not as toxic as it is now. There was competitive respect and community values. As the eras in gaming went by it got worse. The toxicity is so bad and the division gap between the players has widened dramatically. Us older gamers don't want to deal with petty BS and toxic behavior so we either stop playing or go silent. That is also another thing that adds to this...the industry has changed because the developers in the industry itself have gotten bored (or stupid). If we go back and play a game we use to love and have tons of nostalgia for it...a good percentage of the time you will not play it as much like you use to due to the graphics, speed, audio and story content. There are some games that will stand the test of time but not that many because the industry keeps pushing hardware limits and comprehensive abilities of players. I am getting older so the increase in speed with games these days is too much for me to keep up. Its not the multiplayer modes...its the younger players making the industry change. These last few generations of kids have no idea what couch co-op really is either and they play online with people they have no attachment to or respect for. So they get this idea they can say or do what they want and not care when they really should.They feel entitled and act out. If they were next to these people they would act totally different. On another note, lots of players in games want to experience them differently than you do so it has a negative effect on your experience when playing with them. That adds to the negativity of multiplayer because nobody wants to compromise or take it for the team once in awhile. TIM, I think competitive gaming is the root cause not multiplayer itself.

[@metalcardude4099]

Realistically as someone born in 94, you can't say video games have gotten less interesting or boring even. Because realistically there is skill-based matchmaking so it's more fun for people who suck like me who don't play everyday. And then you got more options to play and you still have voice chat in most popular games you still have multiplayer in most games you still have the ability to create private lobbies and have fun with that. If wildcat hasn't taught you anything in his videos that we all know that you watch then I guess you learned nothing. But realistically video games are kind of at a peak. Communication is still existent skill level still matters and matchmaking may not be the best it can be but it still exists so that's a plus over games from early 2000s

[@drwarpp8585]

Too much censorship in gaming these days, makes people stay more silent in fear of getting in trouble for saying something stupid and that leaves lobbies less social and more boring

[@siontimmy1]

It like when your dad or granddad was speaking to someone random around their age "the music when we were their age lot better than they have today" and gamers who play multiplayer games on PS3 and Xbox 360 days kinda say same thing about those era to today multiplayer games "multiplayer games back on PS3 and Xbox 360 were far better than bs we have today"

[@Christian-tr6fx]

Also us who grew up gaming, most or a majority of us are working if not constantly, then often. I do feel kids are different nowadays from social media, etc, and it shows a new demographic

[@CaptainSlayahoe]

at 32 I agree we got the boom of gaming.

[@bearwithit]

Peoples lack of nuance and getting offended at everything is a big cause

[@jasonm4598]

Atleast Timmy being honest saying goose has real content compared to him 😂 we miss the days of real content Timmy and not react Andy Timmy. No better content on KZbin when tim is making real vids

[@joebk44]

The answer is simple. Everyone sweats now. There is no casual play. And just because I can casually do well I get put into lobbies with dudes who wanna join faze.

[@johnedwards2307]

Multiplayer in cod is not competitive anymore, everyone loading into multiplayer to upgrade weopens for warzone, and no one is going for objective anymore no one cares about the objective anymore.

[@sternwardboss]

This guys content is S tier

[@Prod.MelzyMelodies]

Been playing fallout a lot and it’s fun only 1-tactics-3-new Vegas-4

[@darrintasto1509]

Having a campaing mp and br like cod is the best game because it has all 3 and it works.

[@Christian-tr6fx]

I really just think gamers have started even earlier (younger) over time as consoles and PCs have advanced. Streaming opportunities that weren’t there decades ago. Less willing to talk. Plus with stretch and ruining in like he said, global chat.

[@ofpmarine]

Gamer word lobbies back in the day wouldn’t survive now 😂

[@Gekayy]

Yeah the reasons YOU want to chat, are the reasons the rest of us dont ever EVER want to chat. Fuck that toxic garbage in MP games.

[@TheDjd111]

you know what else killed multiplayer games? discord people are in discord with their mates playing other games.

[@jjc5871]

They’re not fun for 2 simple reasons. Tryhards make playing the game annoying, these halfwits literally play the game like they’re actually going to die in real life if they die in a game, and unlocking everything has become a massive chore.

[@alexanderromero293]

The cod and multiplayer community need to expanded the games they play y’all complain but still give you money away to these companies

[@colmoshea9581]

Trueee 👌

[@2Askew84]

Tim, I’m 40 and I get what you’re saying bro

[@PSYCHOMADTV]

Till this day I WANT MY SPY vs Mercs Back. Let’s all pray n let Ubisoft know its what we want 😎💯

[@jhettr]

Where is the reacting to westen ?

[@Veldy2324]

I started gaming with the atari

[@JAAG1301]

Multi-player games died because people get to butt hurt over name calling and saying stuff.

[@nerdedkyle3515]

Lack of innovation sbmm microtransactions and the fact that I've been playing games since the mid-90s probably has a little bit to why shooters aren't as enjoyable as they once were I seem to get more enjoyment out of games like elden ring Diablo 4 Hades and Hades 2 that I do out of any new shooter I also feel like the younger generations have a different play style and are more focused on their individual score streaks than objective-based gaming or anything to do with the team

[@shazystunts]

Yeah you can talk trash on cod until you say a "bad" word and get bannend lmao

[@ryansbayliss]

I'm 38, and I fully agreed with you about the "glory days"... And then I saw my 12 year old son absolutely hooting and hollering with his friends tonight playing a free Xbox game pass game tonight... We just got old homie

[@Tripl3Cherri3s]

They don't know any better, games suck compared to the past eras

[@JLLullaby]

Your kid although having fun is objectively having a worst time than we did, he just doesn’t know because he never experienced it and thus doesn’t know what he’s missing. As long as he’s having fun though it’s fine

[@Novus4110]

Hello everyone hope you have a wonderful day ❤

[@MrMultiPlatform]

content creators are why

[@Qaust1]

Me and my cod group have completely left wz now and just play mp it’s so much better:) and when I’m on my own I play red dead 2 ❤

[@YaBoiHunterr]

wanna know what is killing Mp gaming? its the same 5 fucking games every damn year in the same genre, MP gaming is dying cause your halo,overwatch,call of duty, cs, and whatever playerbases BASH and hate on anything that isnt one of the 5 games so they never give ity a chance, its instantly labeled bad or trash. splitgate, realm royal, Xdefiant, paladins. SO MANY games that offer something else in the same fields but not a soul will play them cause its not the same rehashed bullshit.

[@thetorvic23]

MP games are not fun anymore because we're not 12 anymore with the rest of the boiz and it's not the 90s, saved yall a lot. YOU'RE WELCOME

[@tfullgaming]

I get it timmy, I get it 93 model myself

[@kylethomas3284]

The newer generations are killing online games foe everyone because of how they play the game and their mentality.

[@Burkeunderscore]

what does this even mean

[@imkitsune9246]

it’s 2024 can we be honest about the 360 all it had was party chat everything else was mid or just not good

[@ecksfactor]

I dont think its the game thats the problem, its the people

[@nickweber1388]

does this guy do videos where he doesn’t cry the whole time?

[@itzETERNITI]

Gaming has no sense of community nowadays.

[@hazardous7809]

It’s not a Tim video if he doesn’t mention editing at least 4 times.

[@Swiftynuut]

7/10 snd games are the most toxic STILL and will always be my fav lobbies for that factor. MW3 is ass hands down, and compared to the previous recent MW they blind you by that factor by 20 skins that keep the game active TBH. Other than cod and “chatting”…literally everyone is in discord…and for streamers to relate to “no chat” in public games is due to the fact of racist or terrible comments yk. If everyone felt this way nobody would be gaming 😂😂

[@jayburns25]

Personally PS3 was my favorite/best console.

[@ozzmosistrostle4742]

I wonder if any of these people saying i disagree or whatever know that he's basing these off of the reviews they got when they were new and the reviews they have now

[@Vhs_Godd]

And it less of just trying to have fun with what the had I remember when a bug would happen in a game and ppl wouldn’t complain but would laugh about it and make something better from it. Not it wtf

[@iancummins6926]

Freedom of speech too

[@fathokage]

Video games aren't fun because ppl r soft and reporting ppl is too easy now

[@Tawfiq.]

It boils down to sbmm

[@redwiltshire1816]

Not really sbmm works fine in the finals and other games the problem is making a system and then being too lazy to update it

[@bananabread4075]

It's good to know timmy was just as cringe as a child as he is today

[@Gabrielito941]

Tim: i didnt like splinter cell Me: unsubs LMAO jk

[@l3ul2t]

CS 1.5 here. Valve > Steam

[@manuelmendez2073]

The worst part of game chat that they gave the power to cry babies that are to sensitive to play online games..

[@TheHamSammyMan]

We need a goldeneye remaster with no SBMM an prox chat. An no moderators on chat. As an american we should be able to say whatever we want. An all the people who are mad about it can just be mad about it.

[@thebird7101]

Not a hot take. It's a shit take Tim

[@vinacar]

women crying about how mean men are to them and each other so guys just dont talk now

[@themo881]

What does Tim know about MP games or games in general? All he does is play WZ lmao.. yes he played other games way back but it has been almost WZ only for god knows how long.. i mean if he enjoys it be my guest but its weird to see him talk about fun and games when 90% of his (gaming)content is frickin Warzone

[@dope_uh_mean]

He tries to be the “relatable, nostalgia” guy now. I’ve been watching old Fortnite videos of his and his demeanor and way he acts on stream is night and day. It’s sad to see but it is what it is.

[@themo881]

@@dope_uh_mean hé def changed yes hé does way more for clips and clicks now. But that seems to be the name of game these days. Tim is one of my fav streamers ever but ive had it with wz 😂. No im not saying hé should play something else hé needs to do whatever hé wants but kinda hard taking someone lime Tim serious talking about gaming

[@themo881]

@@dope_uh_mean true with everything hé does hes like lets see how this does do on the channel. When hé switches to games its just because there is content or its hot at that point. Whenever hé plays something hes like yea i like this im having fun just to go back to warzone 😆.. but yea thats life people and things change

[@samshipps1]

Oddly enough the last thing I felt tim really played from a gamer perspective was only up. Then he did only up fortnite snd that was purely for content. I feel like only up was one of the few games recently that had people playing bc it was fun. Yes rage inducing. But fun.

[@LucasZizelman]

Sup Tim

[@jedimindtricks9699]

It's call of duty and like games that are no fun what so ever everyone wanna be the next sweat streamer I just wanna play casual and unlock camos but everyone stim sliding and being crackheads

[@evanfenstermaker7380]

Yooooo

[@drsweetone8122]

PlayStation 2 is the best Console tbh and you cant change my mind 💯💯

[@iamlofted]

Howdy

[@codyhernandez1738]

You love playing with cheaters

[@thetorvic23]

I stopped watching when "goose" or whatever Tim called him, went to the door with ankle socks. this is why nothing works anymore, cause these foos don't pass the sock check homie

[@shouravpaul-2]

W

[@BuckeyBoy-ER]

So is this Goose’s channel now basically or?

[@GreenBeamzzz]

BRs are just funnier nowadays simple as that

[@2Askew84]

And on top of that, I mean, I think all the movement and stuff that they’ve added to current CoD. Games has made the games a little bit more fun in my opinion.

[@keith48527]

1st

[@Ramiiel]

Weird being early 😂

[@kukireandeau5753]

Wrong silence in games is mostly just because we live with people or family members that will kill you if you wake them up. Doesn't make the game bad in silence, it just test your resolve. Much love ❤ to all those dedicated silent players I know I wasn't the only one, keep playing on. Can't wait to play with you all in silence. 🤐 😊

[@andyskoal1585]

Console games suck now dayz

[@Ky4pf]

3rd

[@th_defenestrator]

Being a nostalgia junkie only leads to sadness.

[@701chevy9]

Now warzone moderates voice chat😂😂 bunch of cry baby shit for people "over 17" yeah okay lol

[@KoryBGaming]

First

[@andresmendoza9408]

Bruh why is R6 catching strays from this man like did some gold player made him have a bad game and he’s just been at siege ever since 💀

[@ZachLo51]

Not watching anything from a dude that tells people to "keep it cute". Wtf?

[@cruejones742]

You sure it doesn't have anything to do with all the popular streamers being caught cheating in multiplayer games recently? Why dont you play with Symfuny and Swag anymore. What happened to Aiden and the other top Streamers? How long before your less than part time self is banned? Everyone on the planet knows that Whips is boosting your account using unlock tools.

[@Kaiij5]

if you think symfuny is cheating your just ass at games. also you say all popular streamers were caught cheating when?

[@ronnoc9329]

You mad 😂

[@LakkThereof]

If there was a bar that would throw you out if the bartender overheard you say something they didn't like would you go there?