Control Panel Building Mounting Components Part 3 of 6

[@MrManolis1991]

Great videos!! I wanted to see the schematic and layout but I don't see it in the description.

[@TimWilborne]

We never put the drawing out on this build series but we are on the current Automation Project from Concept to Reality series. Keep an eye out for it. courses.twcontrols.com/courses/automation-project-course And there are some sample drawings in the getting started section for our PLC trainers. twcontrols.com/gettingstarted

[@gusbisbal9803]

Tim, it looks like your regular hand washing has started a world wide trend... who knew!! ;-) Love your work. I am building a new CNC and my panel will be something I want to feel proud of.

[@TimWilborne]

I know, after years of people criticizing me about talking more about washing hands that actually building a panel in this video, I finally started a trend 😂

[@DieselDog1929]

Awesome! thanks for what you do. In my line of work being an electronics maintenance technician i wish we had more people in the industry that use the guidelines and presicion that you yourself use. It is very satisfying to watch your videos, whether you are wanting to get into that field of expertise or you are like me and always want to continue to excel and learn more information. I appreciate you being very thorough and making it simple for most people to understand.

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks Josh! We're starting to work on another round of control panel videos so let me know what you think we should cover.

[@Ilovet.s-u7j]

The systems engineer up and quit at my work, so I’ve become the panel guy now. I know absolutely nothing about it, but your videos are helping me a lot! Thanks

[@rainbowvein]

Loving this series, hadn't realised it was so fresh though so I was surprised when the next 3 parts weren't available - looking forward to them though, thank you!

[@TimWilborne]

Glad you are loving it! Working on them as fast as I can. You can see our release in the banner of our main KZbin page.

[@alonsohdzf]

I love the process of panel building, I don't really get to do it as often since I mostly focus in programming, but this is a great set of advice and tips you are sharing here, thanks so much!

[@TimWilborne]

Glad you like it Alonso! Thanks for watching!

[@locofoto75]

Thank you for this series. New subscriber

[@TimWilborne]

Welcome aboard!

[@dang3304]

He seems to waste a lot of time on unimportant superficial things. Probably wouldn't hire myself. Time is money.

[@jimfrawley4363]

Got a lot of same-length wire duct? I like to label mine on the underside of the duct for quick reference: top, bottom, mid-upper, mid-lower, etc.

[@TimWilborne]

That is a great tip! I've seen them labeled on the front of it and never liked it but I've also seen where it was obviously reinstalled in the wrong places. I'll include this in my next video.

[@talentumengineeringservice8867]

Putting a magnet on a drill bit!!! Great idea!

[@TimWilborne]

Glad you liked it!

[@elohorolokpa]

Nice video sir. If i want to make a cut on the panel box for my pilot lamp and push buttons, how do i achieve the cut. Can i use a drilling machine?

[@TimWilborne]

Check out this video on cutting holes in control panels. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXeVmpikbauafbM

[@elohorolokpa]

@@TimWilborne ok Thanks

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome

[@ArminLB]

Hi Tim, thank you so much for the lessons. I will be building a control panel for the first time and these are very helpful. The link in the description for the drawings does not work for me as it just goes to the building series in your website. Would you be able to fix that. I'd appreciate it.

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Armin. See if this link helps. twcontrols.com/lessons/introduction-to-electrical-control-panels-including-plcs-and-hmis

[@ArminLB]

Thank you! This worked!

[@sirkus34]

I like how professional you are with building this. I'm taking notes on best practices. :)

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks Eric! We are always looking for new content ideas so ask questions as they come up.

[@harshadesilva3695]

Very good job. I am searching video like this. Thank you very much. Really loved this one

[@TimWilborne]

Glad you liked it!

[@JTheoryScience]

i use 5mm phillips pan head screws with a 25mm flat mudguard washer for holding down my duct and dinrail.

[@TimWilborne]

Nice 👍

[@mathieugibeault]

Great video! What is the thickness of the back panel in this video and is that what do you recommend in general?

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Mathieu. The thickness of the back panel will be dependent on the size of the back panel. For example a panel for a 14 x 12 enclosure will be 14 gauge, a panel for a 48 x 36 enclosure will be 12 gauge, and a panel for a 90 x 72 enclosure would be 10 gauge.

[@mathieugibeault]

@@TimWilborne Thanks for the quick answer. So would you use different drill/tap sizes depending on the gauge?

[@TimWilborne]

@@mathieugibeault No, the drill/tap size it determined by the hole size of the component you are mounting.

[@StanleyPinchak]

What torque do you use for mounting 10-32 and 8-32 screws in panels? Is it determined by the panel manufacturer or is there a rule of thumb?

[@TimWilborne]

Every screw that is part of a UL electrical component has a torque rating, it is part of the device requirements. For other mounting components, I use the torque from a standard screw and bolt torque chart.

[@robertdeboer3304]

Hi Tim, Great bunch of videos, watched, liked and subscribed. Thank you! Could you put up a link to the drill/tap and fasteners that you used?

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Robert, here are the highlights, let me know if there are any particular ones you need. Drill tap combos amzn.to/3oj2LNb 22mm Hole Cutter amzn.to/2J0hUmy 30mm Hole Cutter amzn.to/2TmUPw4

[@Dennis47403]

What the model of the enclosure and backplate that you used in this build?

[@TimWilborne]

Can't recall this particular one but it was a Saginaw enclosure, probably an Enviroline.

[@moejbara1836]

Absolutly brilliant work 👍Thank you for this beautiful series tim what size of screws should be used when mounting the equipments on the backplate ?

[@TimWilborne]

Every component has a recommended mounting screw size so there is no "generic" screw size.

[@timbrown2573]

What diameter screw do you recommend for mounting the DIN rail and trunking?

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Tim. Great question. I usually use 8-32 or 10-32 screws. Paraphrasing, UL requires it be secured on both ends by a screw, bolt, rivet, or other approved mounting method. One other footnote right in the same area is one bolt can't hold two devices. So for example say you have to devices, one on the inside of your enclosure and one on the outside, and they both had the same bolt pattern. You can't stick one bolt through the device on the outside, through the enclosure, then through the other device to hold both of them down. They would need two sets of holes and hardware.

[@timbrown2573]

Hi Tim. Thanks for your super quick answer, it was very useful. For people in the metric world, that would be the equivalent of M5 and M4. Thanks for adding the note about not being able to share a single fixing device for two components, that's well worth knowing. I've really enjoyed your series of videos on panel building, It's great to see somebody who takes a real pride in their work. Cheers.

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks. As long as you keep watching, we'll keep making them!

[@brianincontrol]

Are there any ranges of torque wrenches or drivers you recommend or certain brands?

[@TimWilborne]

I'll try to get you some recommendations tomorrow. Remind me in a few days if I haven't.

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Brian, see if the following helps. One note on all torque equipment that you use. It must be calibrated before you use it and every year afterwards. For a complete torque screwdriver set, this one is nice. It has two of the torque screw drivers I use and one additional one I would probably use. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001555G80/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=twcontrols-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B001555G80&linkId=f56fce8505ab9277e0f385e6bd7d2b4d For torque wrenches: 3/8" www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004VYUQI2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=twcontrols-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B004VYUQI2&linkId=6c56cf40bbfe829669aa111e4f9fc238 1/2" www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0081AQDIY/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=twcontrols-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0081AQDIY&linkId=160ca527a0a684f1cb9685feaf19bec9

[@brady0630]

thank you so much for the knowledge sir

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome.

[@TimWilborne]

Control Panel Building Power Wiring, Control Wiring, and Shielded Cable Wiring Part 4 of 6 can be found at" kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4DUXpeBgdOHnKM

[@rydercreed8609]

you are the coolest guy ever.

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks Ryder :)

[@Daniel-tj7sb]

Hi Tim, loving this series as a newbie in the field. Great tips and advice! Just a quick question for you, As you were laying out all your components you brought out the square ruler. Did you square/measure out all the components before marking the anchor points? Or were you able to achieve this by eye (i’m guessing that you measured it out and the video cut at that point but would love to hear back for verification) - keep up the great work

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Daniel. Measure and square up EVERYTHING! If you guess at positioning the components, you'll regret it later.

[@TechnicalEnglish101]

Tim, you rock man. Your videos are awesome.

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks Christopher. You rock too!

[@mattylad8035]

Did you ever get an electric torque driver?

[@leandrodortaduque3392]

Do i need to be an electrical contractor to do this?

[@TimWilborne]

It depends on the region.

[@andressilva2402]

Real professional

[@TimWilborne]

Thank you Andres!

[@steadywatching7564]

Bro, you just blew my mind 🤯. I cut din rail with a band saw, never seen that cutter before.

[@TimWilborne]

It is well worth it. I may cut a few hundred pieces in a day. There's no way I could do of a hacksaw. Plus it doesn't leave a burr.

[@steadywatching7564]

@@TimWilborne I DO have to file off many burrs 😔

[@MR-nl8xr]

Riiiiiight.

[@inmotion2923]

It't great, thanks bro.

[@TimWilborne]

You're welcome!

[@abouakrekhan3028]

Thanx a lot

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome!

[@azizozel6836]

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