Schuyler ESV Treveris - Full Bible Review

[@narrowistheway77]

It’s quickly becoming my favorite Bible, I wish the quintel had these same dimensions, it’s just a perfect size! I always love a single column reader too 😁

[@timwildsmith]

Nice!

[@MrAlmostcm]

I purchased the Marbled Mahogany version. Just received it two days ago and couldn’t be more pleased! Any plans on reviewing the new Schuyler ESV Wide Margin Quentel?

[@timwildsmith]

I have no ordered the ESV WM, but I did review the NASB edition: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4CtgWl_ZqugaNU

[@ziklagfire3453]

From what I can see, the verse numbers don't quite line up exactly with where the verse normally begins in a standard Bible. It seems like we would have to do a little guessing. Can you confirm? Otherwise, it's a beautiful Bible and the poetry section is great!

[@timwildsmith]

With the verse numbers in the margins of a paragraph layout, they appear next to the line where the verse starts. So it s a general location of the verse.

[@ziklagfire3453]

@@timwildsmith that makes sense. In the sample pdf, Exodus 9:3 is one example where I don't think it would be as intuitive. It's still fairly simple, but I wouldn't be confident right away that "behold" is where the verse starts. Pretty much just instances where the sentence is divided over different verse numbers (like Romans 6-8 has a handful).

[@dthomas1001]

Does the Kjv or Nkjv come in green?

[@timwildsmith]

I don’t think so. You can check their website via the link the video description.

[@shawnfanchette]

Tim it might be helpful to do a rundown of all of Schuyler’s bible versions, how they got their names, distinguishing features, etc.

[@crucifiedlife9700]

What a wonderful Bible. I just got home from the hospital. and my Treveris was waiting for me. Such a comfortable reading experience. For me it would be perfect if it was red letter, but I have no real complaints. Great review Tim as usual. Thank you.

[@timwildsmith]

Glad you're home and loving it!

[@JerynToney]

This Bible is exactly what I am looking for, God's word, no references or doctrinal biased commentary, top craftsmanship, and a full yap to protect the pages when I want to read when I'm not at my desk. I'm gonna get a lot of use from this one while I'm not reading a thick study Bible.

[@timwildsmith]

It’s a great one for sure!!

[@dianadealencar8564]

And a plus for me about the Schuyler Bibles over the Allan, which I love too, is that the covers are sewn and not glued as Allan is.

[@timwildsmith]

👍🏼❤️🎉

[@itsmejeremy7]

Interesting 🤔 I didn’t know that

[@professor7878]

I received my blue ESV Treveris two days ago and all I can say is, "Wow!" This is my first Treveris and I have to say I'm liking the format. I like the hybrid concept as it allows me to read it in a continuous flow but when I want to know the verse references, they're there for me to see unobtrusively. I like the verse-by-verse format because it is easier to find out which verse number pertains to what verse. This format takes a little getting use to handle especially if you want to use it for study and preaching. Sometimes there are two verse numbers in one line. If there is no capitalization (which is how you're usually tipped off), it can become tricky. Punctuations help but it takes time to figure it out on your own, unless you reference other Bibles with different formats (e.g. Luke 6:28-29). Maybe it's just me because I'm new to this format. Overall, I like the size, the format, and the FULL YAPP (my first one)! I'll experiment to see if this can be a viable study/preaching option. Thanks for the review, Tim!

[@timwildsmith]

Thanks for sharing your insight, Allan!

[@GanttCarterservant]

How’s it been working for you?

[@squatpuke]

my desert camel just arrived...awesome. My first premium Bible.

[@timwildsmith]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@damessenjah5402]

I'm at a little of a loss on the paragraph format with the verse numbers on the side. How does one know where the verse begins mid-line? What if two verses begin on the same line? Maybe you can zoom in on John 11:35

[@damessenjah5402]

You stopped on John 10. I see on the side two numbers on a line (14, 15) and it looks like maybe the lead off letter is a bold font. Am I seeing things correctly?

[@timwildsmith]

I think the idea is to not be too focused on where verses begin, but to have reference on the side if you are curious. Two verses that begin on the same line will have two verse numbers in the margin.

[@JerynToney]

If that is an issue for you, I would suggest that this format is not made for a study Bible, since any bible with references and commentary would be more suitable. This format is for reading God's Word without being influenced by man, and verse numbers are man made modifications.

[@matthewskaj9531]

I just preordered this in Marbled Mahogany Calfskin to go with my Slate Goatskin KJV Traveris. First Full Yapp Schuyler for me. Now if Schuyler would just make a NKJV Traveris to complete my collection. Nice review!

[@timwildsmith]

Good choice!

[@davidbuurma9309]

My favorite reading Bible!

[@christina1005]

By the appearance of the flip through all the books of the Bible start on their own page right? It drives me crazy when books start on the same page of the where the previous book ended.

[@fftministriesmovingwithpurpose]

I decided to Order this one too thank you so much my 2nd Schluyer in 2 weeks 🤦🏾‍♀️ this can be addictive 🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@timwildsmith]

Nice!! 💚

[@itsmejeremy7]

Same! 😬🙏🏻

[@dbfree4]

I purchased the mahogany calfskin and have been really enjoying the format. I’ll be honest, the ridge on the spine kinda bugged me for a bit, but everything else is so fantastic I have nearly forgotten about it - the calfskin compared to my Quentel has a lot more character (they make a wonderful pair). And, yes!!.. we absolutely need a midsize Quentel, that would be very close to my perfect Bible.

[@timwildsmith]

Thanks for watching!!

[@dianadealencar8564]

I absolutely Love this Bible with the full yap! I love this style!!!❤️

[@timwildsmith]

They did a great job on this yapp!

[@apratimchakraborty1980]

An excellent, serious review that really helps to make up your mind about purchasing this bible. I am going for it. Thanks Tim. Best wishes from here in India-and one big thank you!

[@timwildsmith]

Awesome, thank you!

[@FatherRobLyons]

This would be my dream Bible in NLT Catholic Edition, or even the basic NLT. It reminds me a lot of the original New English Bible from the late 1960’s / early 1970’s. Any idea if they will do an NLT?

[@chris12780]

Hi Tim, you know that I am green blooded? :) It is quite different from being green minded. 😊 Our Alma mater is green. That's what I meant. I so love the color green specially how that bible is colored. Can't wait to see your full review.

[@timwildsmith]

💚💚💚

[@2lpitzers]

Hi Tim, as usual great review! This Bible has been on my list to purchase since I read about it. I want to purchase the Schuyler Treveris ESV, Marbled Mahogany Calfskin Bible. I have love the Marbled Mahogany Calfskin every since it came out in other Bible’s. I have two more Bible to purchase prior to getting the Treveris, and that is the Schuyler NASB in the personal size, and an Allan ESV Reference Bible. I received my Allan NASBR1 last week, and it is gorgeous! I don’t want to put it down it feels so awesome. There is a discounted Allan Reference Bible at a discounted price, but I’m not sure about getting it because there was a newer version that sold out and I can’t remember the differences between the two. Are you familiar with the one they have for sale? I really would like to get an ESV with references. Also, different subject but, I was wondering what your thoughts are about Study Bibles. I saw your review on the ESV, and had planned on getting that one, but one question that I have always had is should you have a Study Bible for each version of the Bible you use? Anyway, back to your review. I love the green, and have been drawn to that color. I may get the NASB Personal size in a green. It is really a nice green, and I normally would never think of buying a green Bible, but, I think that Schuyler has done a great job on picking out this green. Very attractive to both male and female. I loved your review, and have watched a lot of other video’s w/o leaving a review. I wanted to go back and watch them again before I commented. All of your reviews are excellent, and I never miss one. I also use your blog to gain more of an understanding on a particular topic when I have questions. It is a great blog! Ok, on to another video! ❤️ ✝️

[@timwildsmith]

Thanks, Laura... I’m not sure about the sale at BiblesDirect. With Study Bibles, I don’t think you need one in every translation. Just find a good one that will work for you.

[@sluggo562]

I like the oxford hollow ridge and hope they continue it. When Chinese companies inevitably start making counterfeits it's those details that end up being where you spot the authentic. When you look at other markets rife with counterfeiting like rolex watches the lack of these purposeful imperfections allow one to spot a fake at a glance.

[@deanbrandon3615]

I have the Quintel, with cross references, etc. I like the reader style of this with minimal accessory information. I would prefer the verse numbers to be at the beginning of each verse rather than over there on the side. Is there some high end Bible that is 10 point font or larger, no cross references, perhaps verse by verse? Not sure the other versions out there. Looking for a good reader that is a bit more organized than this, but not as thorough as the Quintel. This Treveras is not bad though.

[@Tom-qo4mz]

One of the most gorgeous looking bibles I've seen. I like my green bibles, but the colour of this one, to understate it, looks particularly fetching. Ty for picking up on and covering the spine thing, I saw that on fb and had wondered myself about it before as a couple of my Jongbloed TBS bibles have it also. I'm not normally into full yapps, but this looks especially attractive (and unique) not trained in so tight (I normally don't like them as they remind me of the bottom bit of slugs yuck lol, I mean, all of God's creatures are valuable, but I don't wanna be reminded of the slime when using my bible lol)

[@timwildsmith]

This one is lovely.

[@calebkortokrax3196]

The typeface is Lyon! Same as used by NYTmag

[@timwildsmith]

Great to know... thanks, Caleb!

[@sixgunslingin]

I got a slate grey goatskin esv treveris. Its so nice i dont use it i read my clarion daily. I should use it

[@AFrischPerspective]

Love the look of that font

[@timwildsmith]

It's quite nice.

[@scotte2213]

Not a fan of the 28gsm paper, it just feels too fragile making the Bible feel less like an every day carry.

[@timwildsmith]

Interesting... I’ve never had any problems with their 28 GSM paper.

[@Wade_Wilson88]

As soon as I saw a couple of reviews I knew the Treveris was it for me 🔥

[@timwildsmith]

Nice!!

[@cajunguy3036]

I am patiently waiting for mine to arrive on Friday. I really like the Jerusalem Cross on the cover, the sentence layout (vbv, single column) and the font being used. Though it's a 10 pt font, it seems like it's very readable because of the almost semi-bold style of the letters.

[@mnsohseven]

So do you like?

[@Jared-Cruz]

I’ve been waiting for this one! I’m stuck between wanting this edition, or the Cambridge Clarion.

[@ronaldmaday]

Sell the house and buy both! 😀

[@timwildsmith]

Very different Bibles, but both are nice!

[@barbaralithgow]

like the Rembrandt,l love this bible

[@SteveH1UK]

Great video and I am considering getting this as my personal Bible (to complement my ESV Study bible). A question: What is this Bible like for highlighting (with highlighting pencils rather than gel pens)?

[@timwildsmith]

I haven’t highlighted it written in it, but they paper feels great.

[@davegarciaofficial]

I love the ESV but I really don’t understand the insistence on this Bible being in the “lineage/line” of the KJV. It uses a completely different underlying text. There really is nothing about the ESV to connect it to the KJV other than perhaps the fact that it retains some older words like “behold”. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@timwildsmith]

KJV >> RV/ASV >> RSV >> ESV -- the reason people say that is because the ESV was adapted form the RSV, which was a revision of the ASV, which was the American counterpart to the Revised Version, which were both updates to the KJV.

[@davegarciaofficial]

@@timwildsmith but how could something which used completely different underlying texts be an update to the KJV? Not trying to be a pita lol! Like I said I love the ESV. Just always confused by this angle

[@timwildsmith]

That's a good question... I suppose the thinking is that all "updates" take into consideration the latest Biblical scholarship as they revise and edit. ESV doesn't use the Textus Receptus, but it still comes through that same line from the KJV through the others.

[@davegarciaofficial]

@@timwildsmith the RV used a different underlying Greek text. While it was considered an “update” to the KJV, it did not use the TR. so the break from the KJV lineage happened at that point. And hence the RSV and ESV are simply a totally different line. We truly need to reconsider the whole KJV lineage thing when referring to the ESV. While I personally prefer the KJV, I use the ESV because it’s the preferred translation of the Anglican Church of North America. And I do like it. :) So glad I found your channel your reviews are FABULOUS!!!

[@johnmulligan5902]

I have a bit of trouble turning pages in my 28 gsm esvq. But not in my 28gsm nasbq - perhaps because I use the nasb more and it's taken on moisture etc. How easy is it to turn the pages in this edition? Really enjoy your reviews.

[@timwildsmith]

Thanks, John! I did not have any trouble with the pages.

[@dougchapman1346]

Way too thin paper. Too nice a Bible to be so thin.

[@raiders345]

I'm really liking the look of that full yapp! And I'm pleased to see it's a black letter edition.

[@timwildsmith]

Same!

[@ginamiller6754]

I love the green!! And love the look of the Trevaris. I’ve gone back & forth on do I want it, do I not? If I do get it, it will be green! 📚💚

[@timwildsmith]

Green is gorgeous on this one!

[@narrowistheway77]

I got mine in the imperial blue. I can speak highly of their red, blue, and purple for sure. I’ve been considering a green personal size quintel from them lately too 😁

[@ginamiller6754]

@@narrowistheway77 I have the purple w/wine inside & gold under red NASB, the blue with blue under gold NKJV, & the red with navy & blue under silver. I just ordered the red/red ESV w/ gold gilding. I prefer the gold. My husband would like my red/navy & silver ESV when the new one arrives. I agree, they are beautiful! Since red is my favorite color I choose it for the ESV, which I read the most. 😁

[@flavio6325]

What a beautiful Bible. My wish is that one day Brazilian publishers will make Bibles like this.

[@dianadealencar8564]

Eu também desejo isso! Seria maravilhoso se Schuyler fizesse em pelo menos em Português e Espanhol ou até outras línguas

[@timwildsmith]

Hope so!!

[@flavio6325]

@@dianadealencar8564 Não é? 😊🙌🏼

[@Revlo-64]

Drop Caps look great as does the poetry sections. I don't love the verse numbers to the side in the prose sections.

[@timwildsmith]

Thanks for watching.

[@bngr_bngr]

Have you done a video on your tattoos? I wonder if you have Christian themed tattoos.

[@timwildsmith]

Haven’t done a video… some have Christian themes, others are family related.

[@CasperLCat]

I’m waiting for the one with the racing stripe on the cover ...

[@timwildsmith]

Hmmm

[@ThinkingGodsThoughts]

Do you know of any other bibles like the Schuyler Treveris that are cheaper? Also, looking for different translations than are currently available with the Treveris.

[@sluggo562]

The only things I'd change: adding brown or gold ribbons in place of the green, enlarging the textblock slightly to add wider margins, placing footnotes in a tiny font within the margins, leaving ample space to take notes, and a slightly more Renaissance inspired font to match those dropped capitals. But I suppose I'm nitpicking at that point, it's so close to perfect that I ordered one.

[@ryanbailey112]

What an amazing bible! What is the art work in the background? Thanks for the content and God bless.

[@barbaralithgow]

just got mine,all very nice,but a Allan binding just has something!

[@maryl.7226]

Hi Brother, Thanks so much for your excellent Bible reviews. I notice some “dark green” Schuyler Bibles are a deep “spruce” green, others are more of a yellow-toned “green olive” green. I don’t know if it’s a lighting thing, or if the “deep green” Bibles can actually vary that much. Can you comment on whether your Bible in daylight is more spruce-hued, or is it as yellowish, green-olive hued? Thank you!

[@timwildsmith]

They have different greens. This goatskin is dark. The calfskin options are more olive.

[@maryl.7226]

@@timwildsmith Thanks very much, Tim!

[@nikon9120]

Hi, great channel and a wealth of information. Just wondering if you know if they will come out with a NKJV version for the Treveris?

[@timwildsmith]

Great question. I think they have plans to continue expanding the Treveris into more translations, but I don’t know for sure.

[@nikon9120]

@@timwildsmith thank you for your commitment to giving useful information. I have placed an order for this Bible in this very colour :)

[@timwildsmith]

@@nikon9120 Awesome!!

[@JoeSlam.]

I'll mention this because it could make someone pass on getting the ESV Treveris. There is a misprint in Isaiah 12:1. The verse starts out with 'You' but the ESV Treveris just has 'ou', it is missing the 'y'. I confirmed with Schuyler and they will fix it in future printings.

[@timwildsmith]

Thanks, Joe!

[@JerynToney]

Have you noticed any other print errors? This Bible will restock soon, and I just recieved word that the new stock would be from the same 1st print. I'm admittedly hesitant, but apart from this flaw, this is the Bible I have been looking for. Wish I could see a screenshot. Is the letter 'U' in the ornamental drop caps style, or did they just not print the Y in drop cap? (Drop caps are the ornamental letters at the beginning of the chapter)

[@JoeSlam.]

I have not noticed any other print issue. This really is an excellent Bible besides the missing 'Y'.

[@JerynToney]

@@JoeSlam. thank you for letting me know.

[@JoeSlam.]

@@JerynToney You're Welcome

[@idreamofgenealogy3425]

Beautiful Bible, one of my top choices! 🙏

[@elisavintervejr]

Thank you Tim....😃🙌🏻

[@timwildsmith]

My pleasure!

[@Jfchild]

Not knowing where the verses begins in the text was an immediate turn off for me.

[@hsh1950]

Admittedly, I'm mostly ignorant concerning these things. But it seems to me that the 28 gsm paper is a bit fragile. I love my Canterbury KJV, but I'm very careful turning the pages. Do you think Schuyler will ever go to 32 or 36 gsm?

[@timwildsmith]

They seem to have gone the opposite way towards the 28 GSM

[@jennifermcfarland3800]

Beautiful Bible!

[@timwildsmith]

For sure!!

[@ZachBurnham]

This is soooo tempting, looks nearly perfect. The margins along the spine/center seem to small though, and the text is a bit too "in the gutter" as I've heard you call it.

[@timwildsmith]

It's a great bible.

[@SteveH1UK]

Is there a case that you would recommend to carry this around (living in the UK always concerned about rain getting things wet)

[@timwildsmith]

I've heard great things about Sarah Jayne Designs there in the UK... she makes Bibles covers with Harris Tweed!

[@TcouchMr]

How would you compare this to the Allan ESV SCT?

[@timwildsmith]

Great question... and I might just be recording a comparison video this weekend!

[@douglassowter9600]

Looking forward to your review of the NASB Stridon

[@timwildsmith]

Me too!!

[@SteveH1UK]

The hard thing for me now is decide which colour to choose 🤦‍♂️

[@timwildsmith]

So tough!!

[@bradberry6953]

WILL THAT BIBLE BE IN CHRISTMAS GIVEAWAY IF IT IS PUT MY NAME IN FOR DRAWING

[@timwildsmith]

You'll find out in December, Brad!

[@percival5207]

Too much text darkness inconsistency, for this price, is unacceptable.

[@timwildsmith]

Hmmm... first time I've heard that phrase before.

[@Mind_of_MATT]

I returned a Quentel years ago because of this issue. It was inconsistent, some pages the text was light & some were dark. I was disappointed enough to return it. Is this still a problem? I love the layout in this Treveris.

[@dianadealencar8564]

Thank you for the awesome review!!!!!

[@timwildsmith]

You’re welcome!

[@pamelamorrisonn]

Nice💚 No indent clutter etc

[@timwildsmith]

👍🏼

[@ZackVanMeter]

I have a Cambridge Topaz ESV in black goatskin and recently purchased a PSQ NKJV in mahogany calfskin...I think my PERFECT Bible would be a mid size Quentel NKJV or ESV in mahogany calfskin or this green goatskin. Finger crossed!! Great video Tim!

[@timwildsmith]

Nice!! Maybe one day.

[@keckiebooks]

DO you know of any Full Yapp Bibles that are sold in the general market--like on Amazon? Not directly from EvB or a rebinder?

[@timwildsmith]

I can't think of any off the top of my head, but there may be one or two from larger publishers who sell on Amazon.