TINY ANTIQUE METAL SHAPER 737 ADEPT England tubalcain

[@yak-machining]

Looks like a perfect gift for my wife..

[@joeclarke9782]

A little country, smaller people and machines but some of the greatest ideas.

[@daveticehurst4191]

Thanks for showing it Lyle. Brought back memories of my metal work school days in England in the early 1960's. I left school in 1966. Great little tool, ours was only used to cut a shallow groove in brass for the Oscillating Steam Engine that we all made. Brass boiler and fired by a Methylated Spirit burner. I think that you call it Denatured Alcohol. Had to be mighty careful NOT to get you knuckles grazed if you got the timing wrong of working the ram and trying to wind the cross slide with the handwheel so close to the pivot point of the ram handle.

[@mikewoods4177]

@Dave Ticehurst I was at school in England at about that time. We probably had to build the same Oscillating engine. We were made to cut that groove with files. They saved our powered shaper for a set of toolmakers clamps but we were never allowed to use it without either the teacher or the technician present. I guess health and safety is not new. We never got around to the boiler though.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

What a nice small bench machine. Small project work. Nice.

[@danedewaard8215]

A beautiful device!!! People with hobbies have a great presence of mind! Our top government officials should get a hobby!!!!

[@mrpete222]

Yes, and they should stay in the shop or they can’t do any harm to the American people

[@stxrynn]

That sure is a nice little shaper. And the the boring bar holder was a neat idea too. Good job Gary, and thanks Professor! I enjoyed show and tell today.

[@bearsrodshop7067]

A real Gem of History and makes us appreciate today's world of machining, but showing these old vintage pieces of machinery are priceless,,,Thx Pete & Gary for posting,,,Bear in TX.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@bearsrodshop7067]

I am looking at getting a small power shaper for our shop. They don't come up very often dw in TX,,,but once my ole Dodge is back road ready, will be on the hunt !! Would been the tool of chose while making the indexor I am now milling on the col mill (@@) Have a great new week around your shop,,,I start restoration on the Dayton horz band saw we picked up Saturday,,,Serial # DL...must be an oldie?? Nice cast Iron and heavy for is size (@@)..Bear

[@simoncarney9944]

From a time (I remember it well) when we made things of quality here in the UK 🇬🇧, as you in the US did. I lament those times. What a beautiful restoration of that machine. Probably made for the home hobbyists where you were lucky to have electric light in your garden shed and definitely no outlet to use an electrically powered shaper. Thanks for showing us that Mr Pete. 😊👍🏼😃

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@heybabycometobutthead]

That's the original paint simon

[@simoncarney9944]

@@heybabycometobutthead That’s amazing! 😯

[@russelldold4827]

Nothing like an Armstrong-type machine to teach you about tool angles and sharpness! Beautiful machine.

[@ActiveAtom]

Oh it is beautiful Lyle, what a great machine to be had, we are so proud to see you have it. GREAT share hi visitors to your shop. Oh my that wonderful ADEPT lathe never heard of that so learning always here. Thank you Lance & Patrick.

[@michaelmclachlan1650]

Adept lathes were very popular in the UK and were made for a long time. Information at lathes.co.uk and more at model-engineer.co.uk

[@lathammarx1458]

Awesome hand operated shaper, very cool piece of history, as always thank you for showing it and Gary for bringing it to you.

[@paulerickson3089]

They used to put such effort and quality into something that was maybe used occasionally. A really beautiful little machine.

[@peterparsons3297]

you are right, they took pride even in the little things

[@anelpasic5232]

These shapers were used much more than you think.

[@RetroSteamTech]

Thanks for showing this Mr Pete. Adept made a couple of shapers, the No.1 was even smaller and had a 4" stroke. Although small they are perfectly capable of cutting metal and can be useful making small parts for model making. Cheers, Alan.

[@CRUZER1800]

This is really Cool, Lyle... and thanks, Gary for allowing us to see it. Not a machinist but love the trade and tools. Never even considered there would be an "armstrong" shaper... but it is easy to see how useful it could be in the right conditions. Thanks, Lyle for another winning video.... Much respect. Russ

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@lindsaybrown7357]

Had a very small lathe about 45 years ago, ran with a sewing machine motor. Didn't realise what make it was until I watched this video. Researched "Adept" and there it was. I swapped it for a bike, wish I'd kept it. Life is full of little regrets!

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@michaelalbro6856]

Wow Mr.Pete, that’s nice! And what a great refurb job.

[@larryshaw6517]

The little hand powered shaper 2ould be a great addition to my watch shop.

[@lv_woodturner3899]

I love that shaper. Thanks for the video an interesting bit of metalwork history. Dave.

[@jimsimpson8663]

Hi Mr Pete , my neighbor had one of these . As a boy , ( 65 years ago) , I used to watch him make swerle plates for oil burners ! I don't have one though . Just a Little John lathe etc. Keep up the good work ! . . . Jim

[@AaronEngineering]

G'day Mr. Peter. Wow, that's a beautiful looking antique metal shaper. Thoroughly enjoyed the video. Trust you're well and thank you for sharing with us. Regards, Aaron.

[@mrpete222]

😀

[@gabewhisen3446]

Have no idea how I missed this video but these tools are amazing

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@dannyl2598]

Hi Mr Pete, What a treat this Saturday morning. Thank you.

[@keganboddy8598]

Got myself a Myford ML7, now I need to build a small shaper like this, so thanks for the video.

[@tompuckett9937]

REALLY love Gary’s little machine! Got to have one. Thanks Garry and mr. Pete!!!!

[@leebarnhart831]

Now see I could have lived and died and never seen one of these had it not been for Mr. Pete. Watch this channel! Lyle, you just earned yourself a thumbs up! Spend it wisely.

[@nigelleyland166]

I have a French Rapid Lime hand shaper, 7"x14" capacity, circa 1912. Most of the English made shapers were copies of it at least in part. It's amazing just how well they operate, and being silent in operation they don'y annoy the neighbours!

[@brianhostak3961]

What a fantastic little machine. Thank you for the share of that video !!

[@keithpattison6763]

Hello Lyle, what a lovely small machine. I was given an Adept lathe in rusty condition, some years ago. I restored it, having to make some parts, but will never use it, as it needs a counter shaft and motor system, plus I have two working metal lathes. A good talking piece.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@dannyl2598]

I believe that little hand powered shaper would be great for putting the index marks on a dial.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Good idea.

[@danbreyfogle8486]

I always find something in your videos that I didn't know. And this is a perfect example. Of course I am not a machinist so there is a lot I don' know about these things.

[@daveharriman2756]

Wow, that's pretty neat, a good restoration too, I remember seeing a small milling machine years ago, would love to see one of those again, cheers, Dave

[@simpleman283]

Yes I did enjoy seeing this video.

[@threegreencharms]

Wow what a lovely little shaper. I have never seen one less than full size. This is very cool.

[@RookieLock]

That is pretty cool.. I could picture that in my apartment, haha, thanks for sharing Mr.Pete

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Glad to see a video at long last. Interesting shaper. Thanks for the video.

[@mrc1539]

That would be real handy to have around my shop. Didn’t know they were around so now I will be looking at estate sells and yard sales. Thanks for the video !

[@cleophusA]

Good luck! I've been searching for years with no success.........

[@michaelmclachlan1650]

Good luck from me also. As Cleophus A says they're hard to find, being both out of production for many years and much sought after - and that's just in the UK.

[@ypaulbrown]

Good Morning Lyle, hope you have a wonderful coming weekend and week ahead, thank you for making my Saturday morning a pleasant one....PB

[@skycarl]

What a cool little shaper. Would have made sense to have them in England during the war.

[@jpsimon206]

Thanks for the video Mr Pete! What a lovely machine

[@chipperkeithmgb]

Great to see something made in England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 great to see from oxford England

[@howardosborne8647]

I've briefly owned a couple of model makers hand operated shapers in the past. One of them was an Adept like this one in the video. They came into my posession years ago as part of a purchase the of a deceased estate sale. I sold both very soon afterwards to guys with model engineering workshops. They are quite lovely devices. What I really appreciate about that 'model' shaper you showed video of some years ago is the double pawl feed ratchet. A very practical and mesmorising mechanism to watch. The Adepts were fairly common here in the UK and still come up for sale every now and then.

[@ZaniZandiani]

is it possible to find plans for this Beauty ? I really would love to know please or plans for an automat small one or something if you know please share, thank you

[@mrpete222]

Not to my knowledge

[@ianpendlebury3704]

The Adept shaper was a commercial product. My Grandfather had one. At 6:49 the still shot shows 12/6 which was the price of 12 shillings and 6 pence. At 20 shillings to the pound and 12 pence to the shilling, it would have been equal to 5/8 of a pound. At the prevailing exchange rate of 4.03 US dollars to one English pound, the price would have been 2.5 US dollars. How times change......

[@alexhb12333]

Adjusted for inflation from 1940, that puts it at $48.75 US. Can't imagine buying a fine precision piece like this for $50 now!

[@umahunter]

That's pretty cool thanks for sharing 👍👍👍

[@nicholasviney5975]

That thing looks smooth in action

[@centralbears3010]

That is cuter than a speckled pup. I really like that! - would definitely have that in the man cave.

[@johnquinn3899]

Very interesting Mr Pete. Thank you.

[@samdavis5079]

Cute little critter. And i thought my equipment was manual.

[@Daledavispratt]

Great little machine. Thanks for sharing.

[@k4kfh]

That is a beautiful little machine! You should do a video on making a little shaper, or a shaping/keyway cutting attachment for a metal lathe. I have a tiny Taig lathe with a milling attachment and I have often thought of making a clapper that I could hold in the lathe spindle and crank the carriage back and forth to do shaping work on the milling attachment. Thanks for the laughs Mr. Pete! I needed them this morning.

[@waynespyker5731]

Hampton: Great suggestion...... I saw a home built shaper attachment on Facebook for an Atlas/Craftsman small lathe. _ It bolted 90° across the bed receiving the ram stroke motion from an ecentric having replaced the chuck provided equal cutting and return stroke speed/time. _The workpiece move over was advanced off of the lead screw. EDIT: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2KvYXWeh7h5r7c

[@bcwrangler]

That would be handy to have in the workshop! simple and a small footprint for special jobs

[@mattthescrapwhisperer]

Very nice little machine.

[@glennbrown1961]

Adept shapers were manufactured by F W Portass of Sheffield from the 1930's onwards. This machine is a little ripper. Would love one for precision modelmaking stuff. Cheers from Tasmania

[@RalfyCustoms]

Absolutely beautiful Mr Pete Thank you for sharing 👍

[@myfordboy]

I have something similar. Mine is a Perfecto the bed is longer. Only ever used it to cut keyways.

[@edrannou3914]

I sold my Perfecto on Ebay years ago. $840. Two guys battled over it. I paid $35 at an estate sale for it. I used it once to clearance the top mount of my Atlas lathe for a QRTP.

[@HM-Projects]

@@edrannou3914 LoL, I saw one up for sale here in Australia for $1800. More expensive than what I paid for my 550 BC lathe.

[@dennismichas285]

Looks like I might have something of more than just curiosity value! I paid ZAR 250.00 that’s about $15 US

[@codprawn]

I have heard of these but never seen one in the flesh so to speak. I have an Elliott 10M shaper. Had it 20 years haven't got around to using it yet. Hopefully when I retire I will have time!

[@Unrivaledanime]

Thank Mr Pete love your videos. You have to be a perfectionist to operate this machine

[@royreynolds108]

I remember someone using one of these hand powered shapers in instructions for building a live steam model. The author was in England. These small machines(it seems) were meant to be used to make model engines and other models of 1" = 12" and under without spending a whole lot of money on machinery.

[@MannoMax]

No they were meant for regular shop work, as a more repeatable and faster alternative to hand filing.

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing!!

[@christopherrumford]

This tiny shaper would make for an excellent metal casting video.metal or brass surfaces could be used on the casting for the dovetail ways. Great video like always mr pete,thank you for sharing.

[@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391]

I had a Perfecto hand shaper, as much use as a chocolate tea pot, lots of effort and no precision; it was so flexible ( due primarily to the gap between the bed dovetails that allowed the opposing dovetails to move toward each other due to the cutting force ).

[@dennismichas285]

Hi Mr Pete, I have the same little shaper that I am about to start restoring. Very interesting to see one in working condition👍👍 I got it from an old gentleman about 3 years ago in a box, in pieces. I hope all the parts are there or I’ll have my work cut out for me. I’ll take some pictures and post them tomorrow….. it is still winter here in South Africa and I’m not such a youngster myself anymore 😬😁

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@stanervin6108]

Let me be first to say "Amazing how some people happen across these oddities! "

[@ypaulbrown]

I think Mr Peterson has a nose for these things too, or they just sound a sound we mere machining mortals do not hear.......Cheers Gary from Texas, that is a sweet little bugger......

[@leedale5393]

I own one myself but it has an automatic cross feed.keep up the good work.👍

[@fredohnemus7685]

Pretty neat. I watched the 3 part shaper video too. 👍

[@kailibxanitoez3528]

BEAUTYFUL AND AWESOME

[@llapmsp]

Very interesting machine. Thanks for sharing. Have a good day.

[@machiningbasics1729]

Always loved these

[@millomweb]

It's very quiet running - in fact, one of the quietest shapers I've come across. How many HP is the motor ?

[@webtoedman]

I have the No 1 version, which is even smaller. It still cuts effectively, and is handy for tiny parts and flat knurling..(If that is actually a thing.)

[@tonywilson4713]

YES it is a thing. I started in mechanical engineering at RMIT in Melbourne Australia at the end of our first year we did a 3 week shop course which nobody does anymore which is a favorite rant topic of mine. We started in the welding shop for a few days before going into the machine shop where we made a small bench vise from raw castings. The aim was a practical lesson in drawings, tolerances and machine types. Other than standard lathes and vertical mills we also used a horizontal mill *and a shaper.* We used the shaper for cutting the hatch pattern in the face of the jaws. It was all set up for us with a jig and it cut a set of parallel groves and then a second set at 90deg to form the cross hatch pattern. I remember asking why we were doing it in a shaper. I still remember the answer almost 40 years later. It was to show us what a shaper could do and that there are some things a shaper just does better and easier. Sure it could be done in a vertical mill but it would take a lot longer and risk snapping tools. I have watched Abom do a lot of stuff with his shaper. Sometimes just to show what it can do and there are things a shaper can just do easier than a mill.

[@webtoedman]

@@tonywilson4713 Good to know, I use mine, and a 10" stroke "Royal" frequently.

[@tonywilson4713]

@@webtoedman That's great to hear. I'm totally convinced that the people who are helping to preserve these skills and the machines are going to be so valuable in the near future. I am actually very concerned we are breeding generations of engineers who are devoid of basic "making stuff" skills. They are simply fed a diet of CAD, CAM & CNC where everything is 10th of a thou or micron accurate. I saw a vid a while back by OXTools and he has this odd bracket from one of the UC Berkley grad students for an experiment. EVERY dimension had a tolerance of 0.001'. He said he didn't know why but I knew immediately the drawing was done on AutoCAD because AutoCAD has a universal tolerance feature. I have worked with Civil, Mechanical and Electrical engineers and all of the under 35s are the same. They all struggle at getting stuff made because they have never made anything with their own hands. So kudos to you and others for keeping things like shapers alive.

[@tropifiori]

Speaking of small, have you seen Joe Pi’s lathe

[@elsdp-4560]

Thank you for sharing. Very nice.

[@bobvines00]

Doesn't Emma at "Emmas Spareroom Machineshop" have a hand-powered shaper similar to this (perhaps a bit larger)?

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

She does.

[@jpsimon206]

Does anybody know why England produced so many fine machines in sort of a hobby scale? Many English channels I watch have tiny versions of virtually every machine tool in the shop. Maybe I don't know where to look, but I don't see the same variety in the states. Anybody know why?

[@mrpete222]

England is world renowned for its model makers

[@johnmettler995]

Very interesting, thanks for the post.

[@geckoproductions4128]

Very interesting curiosity, thanks for the video

[@mitchstephen5491]

The music is great 👍

[@thecommentary21]

Thats really nice.

[@markrasmussen1504]

Mr. Pete, I recently bought a sillcock key and am fascinated by the finish inside the square holes. How are these made? I can't find a yt video. Could you take it on?

[@mrpete222]

Sorry

[@P61guy61]

Excellent. Thank you for posting!

[@melgross]

I imagine that these were useful back in the days when there were no milling machines for the home user. There were some kits, but even those were expensive.

[@millomweb]

How nice it'd be to see Abom79 using it :)

[@mrrgstuff]

Very nice little shaper, don't think rhey made all that many. I know when I went looking for one, I didn't find one, though the Adept lathes are more common. The advert is interesting as I believe its the earliest published advert found for the lathe (1930), and actually appears in a radio magazine! Bought the little Lane/Wizard lathe in the end which is like the Super Adept and late 40s, early 50s. Good video. Thanks 😀 👍

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@jsteifel]

that would be a nice little shaper to have for cutting keyslots. Small and would not use up a lot of shop space.

[@aerogfs]

Sooo beautiful!!!

[@borisbash]

Wasn't till the second video it all came together. I know nothing about your trade but enjoy learning fom your videos. With all due respect can you explain what parts do if you point them out and show how they work and why? I really like this channel

[@ron827]

Cute, the shaper that is. :-)

[@roeng1368]

I would imagine that would have been made for the model making hobbyists ?

[@leebarnhart831]

Well I’ll be damned! That’s really neat. Wonder what parts they in mind for these to make when they built the little fellas.

[@MrDdaland]

Lovely piece of equipment! I'd hazard a guess though- given the timeframe it would be meant for the "small workshops" makiing parts for things such as STENS

[@michaelmclachlan1650]

It was available from the mid-1930's to the early 1960's. It was intended for model engineers but I'm sure quite a few ended up in small rural workshops. Lovely device.

[@longcaster]

That's just the cutest little thig. How would you like to do production work on that?

[@azharjaved2000]

Thank you for this interesting video. I own Adept No 1.

[@bentontool]

Cute... handy... unique...

[@oliver90owner]

The Drummond is another English manual shaper. Somewhat more refined than the little adept, but built much heavier.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@Siskiyous6]

That is very cool.

[@toolbox-gua]

Beautiful!

[@gregworkshop5713]

hi guys very nice made

[@larryschweitzer4904]

I've seen these in use on Emma's Spare Room videos.

[@t.d.mich.7064]

I wonder what the max depth of cut would be, without bending the stroking handle.

[@danielmark5540]

I've seen where you have published video tutorials on using lathes and mills. Unfortunately I cannot find any links. How do I find them please.

[@mrpete222]

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