Tips For New (Older) Paddlers

[@kevinharding2099]

I missed your survey, and I am not a new paddler; but at 74 I have learned a few things that makes my paddling experience better. Most importantly, you just have to keep getting out there - even when you don’t feel 100%. Get all kinds of exercise to keep your whole body working. I bike 60 miles a week, I hike, I row, and I paddle. They all compliment each other. I think it is very important to paddle places where you can get out of the boat every hour or so; even if it is just to stand up next to the boat and stretch. These stretch breaks make the day last longer and makes recovery easier. Sadly I no longer do multi day trips. My tripping friends are all dead (or too old), but solo day trips are still great and the quiet and focus on nature makes paddling a joy. Thanks for your channel. I find it a good motivator and even after 50 years of paddling I’m still learning.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Totally agree… the exercise is key!

[@loismayparker]

Useful tip about stopping and taking a break

[@charlesfalk3516]

Hey Brett! This is probably one of your best videos yet. We have talked before about our Sea Kayaking group down here in Houston, where 58 years old is a "youngster". A large portion of our membership is in their 70s, (I'm 69). We even have members in their 80s! We paddle every weekend and sometimes during the week (because we can). Multi-day trips and 15 mile plus trips are the norm for us. Of course, my wife and I paddle Deltas. We have multiple Instructors in our clubs and stress every one of your points in your video routinely. Hope to see you soon on the water.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks Brother. Keep paddling.

[@BayouMitch]

Charles, I live near Galveston and I'm interested in possibly joining your group. Are you the HASK group? 9-13-24

[@jamesiversen]

You absolutely nailed it with the “paddle as many boats as you can” tip! I’ve been paddling for over 20 years, and I just got my own kayak a couple of years ago. Most people get excited when they try a new activity and want to buy all the gear right away. For me, there were two reasons why I couldn’t do that: cost and lack of storage, so I was forced to rent. That, along with demo days, gave me the opportunity to try many different boats from many different manufacturers, and I changed my mind many, many times which was the right one for me! And as my skills improved, my “ideal boat” changed from “wide and stable” (so I wouldn’t flip over!) to “agile and responsive” (so I have better control). In my experience, people get bored of kayaking because they’re paddling boring boats that might not fit properly or are as responsive as a barge. There is nothing like paddling a kayak that fits you perfectly and responds to your inputs like an extension of your own body! My tip to add would be: don’t be afraid to flip! You won’t get stuck inside, even with a tight sprayskirt (just make sure your pull strap is outside the skirt). Get out there on a nice, warm day and practice rolling over and wet exiting. Get upside down and just sit there underwater for a bit and relax, then exit. Practice getting back into your boat, with help and by yourself in shallow water. This will bring you a lot more confidence and lessen any fear you might have. Then practice in less than ideal conditions so you know you can self-rescue if needed. You’ll probably find yourself enjoying more dynamic water, then learn to roll. 😎 But the most important thing is to get out there and enjoy the water! If you’re happy as a fair-weather paddler, staying close to shore, then great! Stick to that! But don’t let fear hold you back.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Totally agree across the board. thanks for watching!

[@philipoakley5498]

A point learnt from river kayaking, many younger (aka beginner) folks find they have difficulty with their first boat, and then all the problems appear to go away when they get their second boat. Most of that is a mind set problem of associating the old boat with their early poor paddling. Once they can paddle a bit, and try a few boats, then get their true first 'proper boat' everything suddenly 'clicks'. In that world view getting an old cheap first boat (rather than brand spanking new) is a good plan because that first boat won't be right!

[@AdventureOtaku]

@philipoakley5498 I see similar stuff with sea kayakers but usually their first boat is a rec kayak

[@sandrablackwell2929]

My sweetheart and i are in our 60s. We paddle singles, but also have a 21foot tandem that is amazing for longer trips. He used to backpack and back country ski. He now wears a foot brace and needs a cpap. It is much easier to let the boat carry that stuff. We have found sleeping in hammocks is more comfortable than on the ground.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Glad you found paddling and enjoy it together. My wife tried kayaking but the cockpit made her feel claustrophobic.

[@jerrys576]

Darn missed the survey. Started when I was 66. Retired,moved to J'ville NC. Did lots of research on kayaks & paddles. I had no mentor,club just went for it. I bought a Pelican Elle Sound 120xe. Love that yak & stll have it. If I had known a 1/4 of what I know now & had been on FB ,I would not have bought that yak.I would have gone straight into 14' composite. I have 12' 14' 17' yaks. I do mostly rivers,some sound/ICW. NO oceans. Transporting no issue.PU with 6' bed 20" tailgate + bedextender = 12' I haul 17-18 foot kayaks no problem. Great channel keep it up!

[@AdventureOtaku]

Dude you have a fleet! Thanks for watching

[@peterplaskett]

Hey Brett, I'm your Australian participant. This is not so much about safety but about comfort. A lot of the rivers and creeks that I paddle are lined with mangroves, have steep banks or impenetrable reeds, so this makes answering the call of nature relatively difficult, so I carry a dedicated "collapsible" pee bottle. Also being unable to exit the boat, means having a hot beverage and or meal difficult. Not wanting to use a stove in a kayak (I know people who do) I did some research on military mres'. more importantly the way they are heated. A google/KZbin search resulted in me finding the Barocook, flameless ration heater system. quite cheap, being able to have a hot meal and a coffee makes the day on the water even better. I now make my own mres , and will use these to supplement my food supplies on our upcoming trip 10 day trip., keep the videos coming, I find them extremely helpful. Cheers Peter

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks Peter. I too carry a (non collapsible) pee bottle on longer days or days when getting out of the boat will not be likely. I like the MRE heater idea though. Hadn’t thought of that!

[@PatriciaLewis-d2h]

I am 75 yo beginner kayaker. Your videos are very informative and very helpful for real kayakers who are in good shape. I am not in good shape but had the best time kayaking on family vacation. We actually just built a tiny dock on the Guadalupe river so I can put my Amazon Pelican beginner's kayak in the water and just enjoy paddling around. Who knows where this journey will take me. I am writing to encourage other puny paddlers like me to put your boat in the water and ride with the current. Stay safe!

[@AdventureOtaku]

It starts with a boat like a pelican for most people… A student of mine (who is older than you) just finished his third kayaking trip to the inside passage. Thanks for watching.

[@bobrein8093]

Brett, of all your videos, this rang so true for me. Glad I could participate in the survey. As someone that started paddling at age 75, four years ago, I can attest to what you recommend in the 4 tips. By far the one that has helped me the most was taking lessons out of the gate. I can also say that staying in shape is critical because each year gets tougher for me physically to do what I did the year before. Thank you for all the help you provide. These videos are a tremendous resource for all paddlers.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks Bob, and thanks for your help, you were in the early round of questions on this topic and I appreciate your help.

[@SouthpawUpstate]

I loved all your tips, but the last one really hit me. Husband and I are in our early 50s, just started paddling the last two summers. Most days, for me it's an almost-spiritual experience that makes hauling the gear, getting angry at each other when we're trying to load the boats, even spilling into the water in front of everyone-- it's all worth it when you're out there on the water, propelled by the wind, the current, and your own strength. At the same time, we are definitely realizing the use-it-or-lose it aspect of aging, and are doing our best to stay active this off season. Thanks for all you do, Brett! Happy paddling!

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks for this wonderful comment and insight into why we all paddle. It is so worth all the work that guarantees we get to do it for as long as possible. Thanks for watching.

[@WyeKgs]

Tip #4 struck a chord! I'm just a year behind you, and each year familiar objects seem to get heavier. For those of us in northern climes, with long winters - calisthenics and yoga / focused stretching pay dividends. All you require is some floor space at home, a mat, and discipline.

[@AdventureOtaku]

couldn't agree more. I am working out and running more this year, than ever....

[@WyeKgs]

@@AdventureOtaku On taking a swim when getting in/out. 2022 was my first year paddling, and on getting out after my very last paddle of the year, I fell out into muddy water.... just lay there laughing, thinking what a way to end my first paddling season!

[@AdventureOtaku]

Exactly! Everyone has done it.

[@trullarolla8574]

You never know what you can do unless you try. I started kayaking 2 years ago disabled due to MS at age 53. Walking only a few steps and mostly relying on my wheelchair. Started small and advanced to paddling in the baltic sea now. Working on my skills all the time. Yesterday I crossed a mile wide fjord in wind gusting up to 30 mph. Scary as hell and I was completely wiped out afterwards but boy am I proud of myself. Dedication pays off.

[@AdventureOtaku]

It totally does. Good work!

[@bendenisereedy7865]

68 here and a lifelong cyclist who rediscovered kayaking on moving in beside a Scottish loch 4 years ago. It's a great compliment to cycling and now my arms and shoulders don't get tired on long rides. In 2 weeks I'm joining a sea kayaking course on Upper Loch Torridon - can't wait! My strong recommendation to anybody in their 50s or older who wants to stay fit is a book called The Midlife Cyclist by Phil Cavell. You may not be a cyclist but the book will inform you a lot about your body as it ages.

[@AdventureOtaku]

I was a cyclist and will be again. I'll check it out. thanks. And thanks for watching!

[@tomclifton3920]

I am 72 and have only been kayaking a few months. Your assessments are spot on. My greatest help comes from a local club. My biggest problem is core strength - sitting upright paddeling for 5 hours then being able to get out of the boat without falling overboard...

[@AdventureOtaku]

keep paddling. work that core when you aren't paddling... stay active. thanks for watching let me know if I can help.

[@andrewgendek4197]

Im 68 living Southern bottom corner UK, greatly appreciate your videos. Spent most my life windsurfing and mounting bikeing, two years ago took myself into hospital concern getting out of breath walking dogs each morning, ended up with a quadruple heart bypass but advised all exercise is good, just lisen to your body but perhaps kayaking would be better going forward. I joined two clubs one one a lake, other on the sea, not looked back. Have spent six months using club WW and touring kayaks now decided sea kayaking is for me, just starting my Sea navigation training and bought a Romany Sport sea kayak, have similar as you, taking your example fitted roof roller and kayak clamp system so can travel all around UK coast with others in clubs with simalar interest. My first six outings was spent solely learning self and pear rescue before others would allow me to paddle in open water with them

[@AdventureOtaku]

Glad you found it! Keep up the good work!

[@georgemorcom9700]

I’m 66 years old and I enjoy watching your videos. I never overlook a video because I think I’m an experienced paddler because I always want to learn something new. I started paddling canoes in 1983 then transitioned to SOTs and Hobies and when I moved to coastal NC, I found myself paddling sit inside kayaks. The biggest thing I struggle with is getting in and out at put in and take out. I found this video good because you shared that you too have had that happen. I sat my kayak in my garage floor and began working on a process that I felt will work on the shoreline. So far, so good. I know that I will improve as time goes on and it won’t be so structured in my process. I have been so fortunate here as when I was in VA, in later years, I found myself paddling more alone. Here in the Swansboro/Emerald Isle area, I have friends all the time to paddle with at least once a week and many times twice all year long. Thank you for sharing the successes and the failures as we all have them. BTW, I’m about the median age of the ones I paddle with. The oldest I think, is 78. We’re typically doing 10 mile day trips.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Hey George! Glad I could be helpful! I love Emerald Isle. Been there many times.

[@naomibrown7785]

am 72 yr old Female. 5'6" 118 lbs, single; former long distance cycler..sometimes competitive cycler. Fell off bike, hard; screwed up lower back. BAD! (I saw x-rays and it really sucked!) Spent ysr recovering, could not walk for almost a year ; it was the pits and uber depressing! Natch, I could not risk cycling again and in tears thinking all was over, hung it all up-literally-- in the shadow of many metals and photos earned over the years. ...... Still not 100%. But now, after a lot of PT and super hard work, I can almost resume most activities - including back packing and walk slow..... Still have some lower back pain but what the hell? While in bed depressed, l stared and glared for hours at local lake: kayaking seemed a good upper body work out and may satisfy my personal need for being outside and pursuing physical activity; if only I could figure out how to NOT have too much weight to carry; how best to transport; and most importantly how to safely do this kayaking thin by myself; ; how to modify for my now stupid and permanent disabilities. Live in gulf coast Texas (Houston area. ) Attended many local demo days and watched lots of you tube videos on kayack brands; most presenters were much younger than I and grew angry. Knew I could NOT lift boat on car or side of car-- tried but failed----terribly. Attended several local paddling clubs prior to purchasing a boat. Did try out lotsa boats (length, sit on tops and sit -in-sides; rudders and rudderless. Found a local guy about my age for advise. He was a life-long paddler, teacher and god knows what. But he really helped me. He invited me to try several boats he had and the haulers he also recommended. I had to have a light boat; way to haul it and one I could confidentantally paddle. We decided on an Eddyline Rio, 15 ft; a Warner all carbon paddle, a Yakima "Rack and Roll" trailer, a high quality PFD, brimmed hat and RX sun shades (on a floating hanger thing). All light but more pricey. I also invested in a higher quality hitch and lights for my car to haul the trailer. I could NOT lift a heavy kayack, canoe or boat. BUT a Yakima trailer and a Suspens bungee hauler really helped. Everything else was technique and accepting I probably looked stupid and slow. That was three yrs ago. It worked. I can haul my boat to local lake on the yellow and black Suspense bungee wheel thing, get in, wheel it all home, clean the 'yak with my hose, not care wha the local fat people think, and for longer paddles, haul the boat with my Yakima trailer, which fits into my small, low garage with the kayak on it ( I use the Suspense to get it to the trailer and pull the kayak up, It all fits into my garage so I do not have to pay any storage. Sure, it all looks silly but I can manage by myself; if I have help, it goes quicker is all. I can do the whole thing by myself too. So IT CAN BE DONE! If a female cripple like me can, so can you! Really! I paddle about every day; taken lots of classes, learned some "Self-Rescue" techniques and have a really nice group of "older", very experienced people with whom to paddle if I wanna. But I usually paddle alone. I have to recover my back some, but travel long distances to put this boat into the water and learned how to back up the trailer. Invest in the lightest stuff even if it's more expensive; if anything is too heavy, you risk injury and hatred of a really redemptive, nice activity. The money you spend on better, lighter kayaking things pays off and you will soon very quickly forget the extra dough.

[@AdventureOtaku]

The light stuff is great, I am glad you found a way to paddle. Honestly, a trailer is the way to go. I never had space or money for one, and now behind the van it would be tough - the van is long enough! Thanks for watching, keep paddling!

[@lenjanssen9600]

Great Video. Somehow I never received the survey but the responses you got mirrored my experience so no real loss. I'm 68YO and in better than average physical condition thankfully Took up Kayaking 2 years ago. I live in a resort area by the ocean. Consequently, instruction availability is non-existent as everything caters to tourists and rental boats are mostly sit on top kayaks We do have one retailer locally that sells eddyline but most of their business is fishing Kayaks so that's the demos they do. For me to demo boats, I had to drive 3+ hours so limited. It is a real problem. I rented for a while but the variety of what I could try was severely limited . The best source of Kayaking friends has been Facebook groups. That said, Most of my kayaking is attempting to get a workout and most of the groups are more into sightseeing & slower paddles Fun but not what i'd like to do most of the time. So I end up paddling alone mostly. Great channel keep it coming.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks brother. It is entirely conceivable that I missed your original email. I got WAY more than I expected and it became a job managing them all.

[@superfly9478]

amazing video, thank you for the content, as a 50+ new paddler love getting this info

[@AdventureOtaku]

Glad I could Help. Thanks for watching.

[@RussoRich11]

Tip: a little rain may just be a fine time to paddle. Why? No wave runners, no drunks in motor boats, and a lot less traffic on the lake. I try to get out in a light rain any time I can, even if I have to wear my dry suit on the colder days. Of course, lightning is a no go, as is crossing large bodies of water or heavy wind. But if the conditions are calm and just a light rain, try a cruise close to shore and in no time you will experience the magic of extending your paddling window.

[@AdventureOtaku]

I absolutely love paddling in the rain, for all the reasons you mentioned....

[@PumpkinVillage]

Very informative video. At 65 I'm working at staying moving thru paddling, biking and winter camping. Staying active keeps the old man out. Thanks for the video and take care, Al

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks for watching AL!

[@anderslittorin6882]

Bloody well put when you spoke about physical fitness and that we should exercise, not to get younger but to be able to get older in style!. This earnt you a new subscriber 😊

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks brother. Glad that spoke to you.

[@tehbieber]

I'm not in your target range yet, but my main sport is jiu jitsu and just getting into my 30s I was already starting to rack up way too many muscle strains and pulls and minor injuries. I didn't like lifting, and I still don't, but I will say that getting on a consistent, regimented strength training program has been completely transformative, I don't think I've had a single muscle injury on the mats since I got started a little over a year ago. If you can build up a level of strength well in excess of what you really need for the activities you do, it makes those activities so much easier and more enjoyable

[@AdventureOtaku]

Totally agree. I will also say - having trained many martial artists to paddle - they pick up the concept of core rotation faster than anybody. Particularly if they use a staff as a weapon. Which I don't think Jiu Jitsu uses weapons (though I could be wrong.) My first book, Enlightened kayaking (only available for the iPad because it has video) combines my love of Buddhism, Martial Arts and Kayaking. You might like it.

[@tehbieber]

@@AdventureOtaku the Japanese jiu jitsu folks might, but Brazillian jiu jitsu is pretty much just empty handed grappling. We do spend a lot of time getting subtle hip movements just right though, which seems to have some carry over :)

[@AdventureOtaku]

I have no doubt it does! Body position awareness is something a lot of people struggle with. Not so with martial artists.

[@rustybrockmann2344]

I just discovered your channel and I like it. I'm a 74 year old cyclist and paddler trying to move my paddling skills to the "next level". Excellent video and I totally agree with your 4 tips. I've done them all and you're right on the money. I plan on watching all your paddling videos and sharing them. Keep up the good work!

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks for watching!

[@philipoakley5498]

Great points. Only thought about fitness is to manage it and not over-work oneself with the lifting and stretching - practice the 'cheat' techniques of good lifting and manual handling so that you 'can', rather than 'can't' get on those trips. A packable trolley allows one to move the boat further to the water, and across rough ground. Getting a helper (tag-teaming) is good. Heavy weight will kill the older back (been there). Like you say, practice! One can paddle into one's 70's!

[@AdventureOtaku]

I’ll stop lifting the heavy stuff when I can’t lift it. But if I stop lifting it, sooner that later I won’t be able to lift it.

[@shan752]

State parks and National Parks have tours. Educational and FUN! Where I live has a county program where groups go paddle. (Green Volusia in Fl) I've paddle through park services in many states. Even Alaska! Safe and fun. And I'm 72 have been paddling since 48 yrs old.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Great tip! Thanks!

[@n-da-bunka2650]

Just SUBSCRIBED! I will be turning 62 this year. We moved back to a lake last year from a golf course where we lived for the last 22 years. We had lived on a larger lake for the 7 years prior to that and both grew up on lakes when we were both younger. My wife picked up a super easy to balance recreational kayak designed for lighter paddlers from one of the neighbors. However, I decided to pick up an older, used 15ft thermoformed 49lbs kayak that has a 23" waist and a rounded bottom. I bought it even though I knew it might be more difficult to balance but I come from an athletic background but am now, finally starting to have a few aches and pains here and there (only started in the last two years). Your videos have been helpful so wanted to let you know we appreciate your content!

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks for watching! Glad I have been of some help.

[@billshepard9525]

Thanks!

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks Bill! Have a great day!

[@maritvansanten]

Hey Brett, I somehow missed your survey too! You talk about keeping your condition and health up, especially when one is getting older. I'm 53 now, I bought my first kayak 4 years ago (a very cheap recreational PE boat) with a poor health, and just recently bought a new boat and I'd like to share my decision process. I'm having health issues that can't be solved (very similar to post-covid but way older) which greatly effect my condition and energy. Even though I still have most of my strenght, using it to much or easily drains my energylevel. Building up condition is almost impossible with my health issue, so I don't train in whatever way. Exercise with weight on my feet (everything that includes walking and standing) is killing for my energy and strenght, but as long as I can sit, I'm sort of okay. Kayaking is perfect and is my exercise. That aspect was very important to consider choosing a new kayak. Besides my health, I had to consider storage (I could barely store my old kayak), loading the boat on my car (standing/walking and lifting it meant a shorter trip), my wish to paddle in colder times, make longer daytrips and even a campingtrip, learn to self rescue (my first kayak was impossible to self rescue with) and even rolling. Since I paddle mostly solo and Brett's video's made me very aware of safety, this time I wanted not only a stable kayak (again), but also one that had watertight compartments, and I wanted to be able to use a sprayskirt with it. I also considered were I paddle: mostly on rivers and lakes and no desire (yet) to paddle at sea or whitewater. Though I had a little more money to spend than when I bought my first kayak, most light weighted boats are still too expensive. And both composite and polyester boats are probably too delicate. I'd be afraid to ruin them everytime I scratched over sand, rocks or agains stone walls, which happens when I get tired and my strenght fades away fast. A inflatable or foldable each would have their pro's but to me, way too many con's (weight and/or build up time and effort). So in the end I tested the 2 (out of the 3) different modular PE boats that are available in the Netherlands, and bought the one that suited me best (the 3rd was too expensive and too time consuming to build op/break down to even consider). With a modular boat I have kayakparts even I can carry, and that I can load in my car in stead of having to lift it up. My first kayak was 3.05 m long, 0.75 m wide and weighed 26 kg. My new one is 4.09 m long, 0.59 cm wide, and weighs only 3 kg more. Still a heavy boat, but since it breaks up in 3 parts and takes up no more than 5 minutes to break down or build up, it's perfect for me. Everything I desire to, I know I can do with this kayak (well... rolling will for sure prove to be a challenge). So, regardles (ok, almost regardless...) of your age, health and condition, if you want to paddle, there are always possibilities that fit your situation. Looking back I don't have regrets towards my first kayak. Yes, in the end it was disappointing, due to the fact my interest and desires with kayaking grew with every trip. But... it was cheap (a new one now costs little over 300 euro's), it was incredibly stable (you had to make an effort to tip it over) and paddling it around for about 4 years told me everything I did and didn't want in a new kayak (for daytrips, I might change my mind again after a couple of campingtrips, since I don't have any experience with that yet). And no matter what, I had a lot of fun and made beautifull trips with it.

[@AdventureOtaku]

At the end of the day the fauna spect is the most important. The info from the survey definitely becomes “generic” if you know what I mean. Every journey is different.

[@silentrabbit247]

I kayaked when young, and recently took it up again as an older paddler. I've cycled all my life including bikepacking, also done plenty of backpacking expeditions, and keep fit for my age. My main concern was transporting and storing a Sea Kayak, (I dont drive and live in a small flat) so decided on a folding Kayak (Trak T-1600, 16 ft ). I take it on public transport for day & multiday trips using ultralight and compact camping equipment, and it has been great fun. Also use a drysuit which helps when paddling alone. Risk Assessment =Experience, Knowledge & common sense, discernment, plus good planning & anticipating difficulties.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Glad you got back in a boat!

[@DonRedford]

??? ? What OLDER paddlers??? I am 89 years old and am on my fourth, inflatable and on my seventh sea K 14' to 17.5 ' mainly Poly Ks. Planning to buy P&H Leo 16'. I paddle SF BAY, Off Monterey, Ca., Lake Tahoe, and little lakes in the Sierra Nevada "mountains". When out for a water stroll, I go to Lodi "lake", Lodi, Ca. So, advise the 45+ers to leave TV streaming and get on the water.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Ive told them, they won't listen to me.

[@chrispetersen4863]

53 here... just getting, or trying to, kayaking. I grew up in southern California surfing, swimming, diving and enjoying the water. Then, unfortunately spent the next 20 years living on the Colorado River in Arizona, and surprisingly never had an interest. Sure I floated the river a couple times, but it was too damn hot in summer to go outside unless necessary, and too damn windy the rest of the year. I recently moved to the Pacific North West on the Columbia. I have been getting outdoors so much more often and enjoying it so much. It is so beautiful up here, even when it is raining. So now I am looking at kayaking. Biggest hurdles for me are 1) cost and 2) having a severe physical disability that I fight through to do things every day. The first one is the major hang up, but I know I just have to be patient. I know I don't want to go cheap on the equipment I buy, especially the safety equipment. So for now I am absorbing as much info on the sport as I can through videos, books and any other source I can get my hands on. Your comment about thinking long term is spot on. Not just only when it comes to ones own physicality, but on planning where you want to be, how you want to get there, and how to keep yourself focused on those goals! Thankfully I also have a son in his early 20's that pushes me to get out and who enjoys doing things with me. I look forward to learning more from you. Thank you for sharing your wisdoms with us all.

[@AdventureOtaku]

thank you for watching! The PNW is an amazing place with great paddling options. You can also buy a used sea kayak easier up there then probably any place in the country. Let me know if I can help.

[@chrispetersen4863]

@@AdventureOtaku - Thank you!

[@naomibrown7785]

@@chrispetersen4863 : you are right! think future and spend; you HAVE earned it!

[@barry4fish19]

Thanks Brett, very helpful video for so many people. You articulated all 4 tips very well and I think they can be useful for younger ages too. The additional tip I have to add fits right in with those. The internet and KZbin videos are an important educational resource that new paddlers can tap into, even though it takes some savvy to sort through the crap and find the good ones. I have learned a lot not only from your videos, but several other sites have good content to help people, including specific skills and safety techniques demonstrated by instructors, reviews and test paddles done by professionals, and salesman at paddle shops that give overviews of model features and kayak specs, etc. These sources initially helped me narrow down kayak purchase choices before test paddling them. For example I initially did not know there were sit-inside kayaks with larger openings that still have touring features and performance, these kayaks (like the Eddyline Sandpiper 130) often fly under the radar because new paddlers (including seniors) don’t do their homework to get a good sample of what kayaks are on the market before taking the next steps. This is especially important if dedicated paddling shops are not available close by. And for the really good skills and safety videos available, I have specific ones bookmarked as a reference for when I am practicing.

[@AdventureOtaku]

I think that is absolutely a valid point, I probably should have pointed out. Thanks for bringing it up!

[@danielrussert1375]

This video was so helpful! I am 65. My wife is 62. After many years of different activities, we are new to kayaking. We are looking to buy kayaks after renting and trying several. This video was very helpful!

[@AdventureOtaku]

Im super glad. if I can help, reach out via email.

[@muskadobbit]

I’m 71 and have a Nimbus Solander Kevlar boat (16’2”, 46 lbs) that I bought way back in 1984. I transport it on my Subaru Outback using Yakima saddles on the front and rollers on the back. Perhaps I might make a video of how it goes for me. I back the car up to a hump in the yard. Put a yoga mat on the back of the roof. Pull the kayak along the grass, over near the car, then lift the bow up onto the mat and nudge the kayak up until it’s on the rollers. Lift the stern up and slide the boat forward on the rollers till it’s balanced fore and aft on the rollers and saddles. I open the side door and step up on the sill to reach the straps to tie it down. When I get down to the little community yacht club, I can reverse the process but usually one of my buddies can help me. And speaking of our community yacht club, we have about 16 kayaks of various sizes that we loan out to members. And members can bring a friend so they can try paddling too. There are a couple of kayaking outfits not too far away who can do training for those who would like it.

[@AdventureOtaku]

I use essentially the same technique for loading the boat on my van (but it isn’t Kevlar so it weighs more than yours). I don’t have rollers but the back cradles are designed to be slippery. Where are you located?

[@muskadobbit]

@@AdventureOtaku I’m on the Eastern Shore of Nova Scotia. And I’m 5’4” 😊

[@AdventureOtaku]

Im jealous of you having access to paddle in Nova Scotia. enjoy it.

[@jimbaumann6197]

Great video, I'm 70 and have been power boating 50 + years. In the last few years I've sold my marina and boat and bought a motorhome. My son stores his kayaks at my place so my wife and i are thinking about borrowing those occasionally and heading to a lakes in Northern california where we live. I'll need to get a trailer or rack for the motorhome and I'm rehabing my shoulder after some surgery so keeping my fingers crossed I'll be able to pull on the paddle eventually. I have to tell you im a new subscriber and your videos have inspired me to keep working on my body so i can get back on the water. Thank you.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thank you for watching!

[@ozramblue117]

When I was 16 I loved whitewater kayaking. I’m 48 and it’s been a few decades since then. Now I live a world away, own a small business and am minutes from a beach. Just bought an ORU bay ST and have been out a couple of times. It’s a pleasure but I’m a little bit out of my depth. Still waiting on the splash skirt so I can relearn how to roll but so far so good. I’d say I’m doing this for fitness but truth is I’m doing it for my mental well being. The second time out I faced some wind and waves and there were a few minutes there where I thought I might have to call for help and I was equal parts embarrassed and frightened. I was surprised when I decided to turn back because the waves pulled me backwards instead of forwards. I managed and it was ok and I’m more excited than ever to keep at it but my old knowledge of whitewater only gets me so far.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Let me know if you can roll the Oru. My gut says it’ll be difficult. Glad you refound paddling!

[@ozramblue117]

@@AdventureOtaku soon as I get the spray skirt I’ll give it a shot. Yesterday I played around with wet exits in the shallows but trying to get much of the water out and getting back on was no easy task. Fun though.

[@AnalogKensho]

On the topic of sitting in a lot of boats, I just wanted to mention that Canoecopia (a huge paddle sports expo) is coming soon (early March 2024) in Madison, Wisconsin. For anyone in the Midwest getting started in paddling or shopping for a kayak, this should be a great event to check out. There are an also a huge number of educational talks in addition to gear vendors.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Totally agree, and was going to go this year but had way too many work offers.

[@Rick_Pedal_Paddle]

Thanks Brett for this video. I was happy to contribute to your questionnaire and you did a great job conveying the info and your tips. I’d like to mention your call out from another video of kayaks from Turning Point Boatworks. I paddle their Petrel Play and the weight reduction from their composite kayak has contributed immensely to allowing me at 73 to move my boat around. Best wishes and happy paddling!

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks for your help Rick. I am sure that boat made it easier. Paddle safe out there.

[@tommyrq180]

New Older Paddlers. That’s me! Paddled rivers (canoes/kayaks) for decades (mostly fishing), but now, at 65, I’m going full sea kayak. Former bike racer and trail runner. Planning an island circumnavigation of about 50 miles this summer. Got a Tiderace Pace 18 (FWIW, not simple to find “fast sea kayaks”), Goodboy v-rack, and, well, let’s go! 😊

[@AdventureOtaku]

That's a great boat! I suspect the bike racer in you has you seeking fast.... take your time brother. There is usually no race.

[@tommyrq180]

@@AdventureOtaku Thanks for replying! But there’s always a race… 😉 My objective is to do enough work and learn enough technique to do the circumnavigation in one day, solo. Nominally 10 hours. I’m someone who benefits from a challenging target to focus training. Plus, I’m retired, so I have time freedom. Joey at Turning Point is tweaking and outfitting my kayak, for what it’s worth. He’s not only a boat-building wizard, but a high-end boat repairman as well. If he made a fast sea kayak like the Pace 18, Taran 18, or Epic 18X, I’d be buying one from him for sure. As his business expands, I imagine he could go in that direction eventually. 🇺🇸

[@AdventureOtaku]

Agreed, when I was in his shop I saw all the boats under repair. So 50 miles, I am assuming you mean miles, not nautical miles. In NM that's 43 miles. My longest day was 42 miles on the inside passage, I think it took us about 12 hours - of course we were on day 14 of a trip, boats were loaded with gear... But still 43 miles at 4 knots, is a bit over ten hours. without breaks. It's doable. You will also be in a faster boat than we were....What island are we talking about?

[@tommyrq180]

@@AdventureOtaku I did a quick map line around the island and it was about 50 statute miles, which means I’d have to sustain 5 mph x 10 hours. Might be longer depending on my path. I know that’s aggressive, but it’s a specific goal and I have time to develop fitness. I’m in bike racing shape and train 7 days a week so general cardio is fine, but paddling-specific fitness still needs to be developed along with winged paddling technique. Have taken lessons for paddling and recovery, although not yet rolling. Cold water doesn’t bother me and due to fishing in winter have all the cold water gear. Nice thing about circumnavigation is that I’m always near the shore so I can always bail out! It’s an inland lake island so not salt water so no sharks or other sea creatures…and if I run out of water I can just use my Grayl as backup. Won’t be loaded down but the whole idea of the sea kayak instead of surfski is that I can load it for expeditions when that option presents itself. Right now am itching to get boat back so I can start training on local lakes-starting in good weather as you recommended! PS: Just listened to “Paddling the Blue” podcast, Tom Daly circumnavigated Ireland solo in 1979 without much experience and zero training. Young guy with wool clothing…and no GoPro/Garmin/EPIRB/iPhone/etc. So my little objective is not very noteworthy by comparison! 😅

[@AdventureOtaku]

NIck Ray just did Scotland! As to the 50 mile thing, google "coastline paradox." It will if nothing else, crack you up.

[@Billcameratech]

Fantastic work, Brett! One thing, in agreement with what you said, I found really useful in the wish I had known which kayak to buy category, is that used kayaks are easy to come by in Western North Carolina and I decided I wanted to paddle around a bunch in less expensive boats and decide what I wanted the kayak to be. I was able to buy four very different styles of kayak for less than $1000 in 2022-2023 and just paddle the heck out of them to figure out what I wanted to spend money on. Oh, and to spilling your boat at the shoreline, paddled three miles upstream against the French Broad and then three miles back, all lively paddling, and flipped my boat in six inches of water at the put in getting out with worn out arms. Just get used to it.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Yeah, i tend to mention the option of buying used, and I really should because at certain times you can get boats much cheaper. Thanks for pointing that out.

[@ggal625]

I'm age 57. I was a velodrome track cyclist for a couple of years right after college and a road cyclist (weekly, centuries) for about 20 years. First real sea kayaking was in Venice, Italy, 11 years ago while on a business trip. Got hooked. Did a few of guided tours throughout the years. Finally bought my first and second sea kayak this past year. Picked up a 1994 Anas Acuta first and then a $300 NDK Romany Sport (RM). I'm now selling the Anas Acuta. The ocean cockpit is just too tight. I've now bought a dry suit and have been paddling through the winter on a local lake. Working on self rescue and edge control. Waiting for warmer weather to start learning rolling. I'm also hooked on Greenland paddles, which I first tried on the trip in Venice. I'm now building my 2nd paddle and only carry the euro paddle on deck as a spare.

[@ggal625]

And while I'm heavier (155 lbs) than I was when I was cycling (135 lbs), I'm still pretty fit. My biggest problem is paddling partners. I live 15 mins from a busy lake and 6 hours from the coast. I paddle on the lake but have to avoid the wake from boats, jet skies, etc. I occasionally paddle around Tybee or St Simons if I'm down visiting the in-laws once or twice a year. I'm hoping to retire closer to the coast and paddle more. For now I'm a solo lake paddler.

[@AdventureOtaku]

$300 for a Romany Sport? Where can I find one?!

[@AdventureOtaku]

I’d like to do the Tybee circumnav…. Sounds like fun.

[@ggal625]

Me, too@@AdventureOtaku

[@carolemartin6892]

Hi there. Good tips for new older paddlers. I'm in my 70s & love my Delta 12.10. 41 lb & I can load & unload myself on my CUV. Hips & knees are giving trouble but still able to adapt. May not be pretty using my paddle to rise but works for me.

[@AdventureOtaku]

If it works keep doing it. Thanks for watching

[@jimshelly58]

Hi Brett! Thanks for taking the time to put this video together. I always enjoy your videos

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks Jim, Thanks for watching!

[@michaelthomson5101]

New paddler / kayaker here. 68, Recently retired, long time backpacker, hiker, XC skier, MT biker, with bad knees. Grew up on the water, skiing, sailing, rafting. Never been in a kayak till I took an REI "learn to kayak" class a month ago, and knew 50' from shore that this is what I want to do. Bought a Crescent Primo 9/10/24, should ship in a day or two. Also bought a PFD (Astral Sturgeon), a paddle (Aqua Bound Stingray), Level Six Cronos dry suit and some paddle boots to protect the socks, Some quality entry level gear, I think. Oh and a Malone w/Stinger. I joined O.O.P.S. and I am pumped! I can hardly contain myself. I joined OOPS for some L1 trips and learning experience, including a learn to pack for camping class next month. I don't think I'll learn much at that class, I have all the gear, and have been packing it on my back for 50+ years. But I just want to get involved and informed anyway I can. I live 10 - 30 minutes away from Willamette, Columbia, Clackamas and Tualatin river launch sites. OK, now I'm just bragging. I am extremely excited to get on the water. You are correct, I should have rented and tried multiple boats before buying. I know I wanted a sit on top, to learn in, being a more stable boat, and it will allow me to camp out of it which, after exercise, is a major reason for getting into this sport. I'll be doing flat water trips. I guess I should mention that I am building a house in Central Oregon, near Bend and a 1000 lakes... is that bragging again? Oh well. OOPS should be very beneficial in my learning curve. OK, I'm done... (insert your big sigh of relief here).... I'm just excited. VERY excited. Pat yourself on the back if you made it this far.

[@AdventureOtaku]

keep paddling brother. Welcome aboard.

[@sundaymorninghikes6275]

Fellow New Yorker here. I recently found your channel and really appreciate all the information you provide. I missed your questionnaire, but the topics you mentored really spoke to me. I'm coming from the backpacking world and would like to venture more into paddle power than foot power (recovering from my 4th foot/ankle surgery and I REALLY don't want a 5th). I've been paddling/kayak camping with my 11' Perception for 25+ years and it's time for something a little more conducive to my needs - looking at the Delta 14 or the Eddyline Sitka. Any places around NYC (LI, NJ, CT) you would suggest for renting and/or lessons? One tip that I'm reminding myself of more and more is "Don't compete against your younger self." Thanks again! I'm looking forward to learning more from your videos.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Unfortunately, I left NY (though I am in eastern PA now) a long time ago. I used to paddle the north shore of LI, and there were a bunch of retailers that rented. I am not sure who does anymore. Wish I could be of more help.

[@sundaymorninghikes6275]

@@AdventureOtaku I should have said "former" fellow New Yorker! I'm in Western NJ! (Hunterdon county). I got in touch with a couple of instructors I found through The Jersey Shore Sea Kayak Association. I also found a kayak place near Lake Nockamixon. Love your videos! Great topics, information, and presentation!

[@AdventureOtaku]

I teach at Nockamixon if you want to schedule something.

[@sundaymorninghikes6275]

@@AdventureOtaku That's great! I'll send an email!

[@leosmith9301]

I'm 71 and have paddled for over 30 years. Best money spent was taking a kayaking class. The instructor made the following statement: "Two kinds of kayakers, those that have capsized and those that will". I have 3 kayaks: 2 fiberglass sea kayaks and 1 inflatable. The inflatable is great when I'm traveling. It's a pain getting the fiberglass boats on the rack on my truck. Might eventually get a trailer for the fiberglass boats.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Trailers are the way to go…. And the boat only comes off when you are paddling. Sounds great, keep paddling.

[@EveyoneCallsMeTheDude]

This is off the subject of the video but I did some winter white water paddingking yesterday.. it was awesome, I did well, my buddy’s boat filled with water by the time we finished and he was quite cold. But all and all it went well for both of us.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Ive tried white water a few times… My roll got a great workout!

[@jdarms27]

This is great advice, especially about the fitness and strength maintenance. Thank you.

[@AdventureOtaku]

You're so welcome! Thanks for watching

[@jayspot4]

Great episode Brett!! Excellent questions answered, wish you were closer so that I can take your classes!

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks for watching! Let me know where you’re located if I’m in your area we can get together

[@jayspot4]

I'm in Vancouver, BC. You were kind enough to critique my paddle strokes awhile back when I sent in a video.@@AdventureOtaku

[@AdventureOtaku]

Ah. Sorry the user name didn't remind me.

[@matthewroykinney7922]

I'm 50 just started kayaking to get over my phobia this winter 2024 i'm on the river every day a week ago i started really getting in to how much water the boat can take before sinking other day discovered a hole in the boat and have spent last two days trying to sink it no success yet i need to know theses things before next winter the river i play in is a very large river in the northwest Washington state 4th 1/6/24day out it flooded and I went out of course week after that temperatures dropped into the teens i still went out like i said i'm on this river every day looking to get a touring boat next

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks for watching. Stay safe.

[@Simon_W74]

A very interesting video Brett. I was talking to a couple of Coaches from my Club last year when we were doing a Day trip and the subject came up of members that had joined last year like myself and the average age bracket that most new members fell into was 55 to 65 years old range. I was thinking it would have been lower than that. It is also interesting that you tend to have those that already do outdoor activities tend to make up a good proportion of us new paddlers taking to the water. For me when it came to buying my first boat it was cost and can I fit in the boat within it's weight range and cockpit size. The Two boats I had singles out I went for the one that had the larger cockpit and higher weight capacity as I had always planned to go on multiday trips. As I take you most of the capacity I chose a Wave Sport Hydra over a Dagger Stratos 14.5L. two very different boats in how they respond. The later is far more maneuverable, but not a fast and doesn't track as well as my Hydra. This coming weekend I am taking the Stratos as I will be paddling on Grade 2 rivers for the first time, and that plays to the Stratos strengths. I just have to make sure that I remember to take out the hip pads or my legs will go to sleep. You never know this could be what gets me interested in trying out White Water properly, I have been in a could of WW boats, mainly on Pool Session or on slow moving rivers that our Club is based upon. The Cub does do a lot of White Water despite not having any White Water in Norfolk. I have found a couple of Groups on Facebook that you can arrange to meet up with fellow Paddlers, as Yet I haven't taken advantage of this, as I have been fairly busy, but you do see the odd request for paddlers to meet up mid week. Which I can only take advantage of during school Holidays as looking after both my Girls who can't access school like their peers, means that I can't do a mid week paddle outside of Club Nights, where I Take my Youngest Daughter with me. She will not paddle in the dark as she struggles with it having no night vision. Hopefully more of those that watch your videos consider subscribing as I have picked up plenty of tips and advice that I have put into practice.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks for watching brother. Keep paddling! I didnt realize wave sport made a touring kayak, I only know them from WW.

[@Simon_W74]

@@AdventureOtaku They make two Tandem Touring Kayaks and more recently have added a smaller version of the Hydra to there line up. In time I will be looking at getting another Touring Boat in time. I am Looking at the P&H Scorpio HV, but that may change over time. As I want a larger boat to get out for longer trips eventually. I did look at Composite, but I don't mind weight as I am fairly well built and have always been naturally strong. I think having a boat that is durable and less likely to be damaged is the biggest draw at the moment.

[@AdventureOtaku]

The scorpio is a great boat.

[@barry4fish19]

One of my boats is the Stratos 14.5, I got it for rivers where I needed both maneuverability and impact protection from rocks. The hip pads can be removed (Velcro), and if you move them lower by a couple inches and tuck the edge of the cloth under the seat pad, this increases the width (because of the seat curvature). Makes a major difference in comfort, and keeps you from having to remove the hip pads entirely.

[@Simon_W74]

@@barry4fish19 I did a similar trick with my Hydra as it is a bit wider than the Stratos. Not sure if I could get away with dropping the hip pads down. As I have noticed that my padding shorts stitching has furred where I have been rubbing against the side of the seat. A lot of the hip pads have been removed from most of the Stratos boats due to our Lady Paddlers having similar problems with fit. It is something to try out on one of our Club Nights.

[@JeffBrandt-p4n]

Hello Brett, I'm in your target demographic, 60 & new to kayaking. My experience is last summer in our 10' rec kayaks. They're fun, but not very comfortable for me; I'm 6'4". Goal is to get into a fun sea kayak. I agree with your recommendations, paddle lots of boats. But at my experience level, how would I know how / what? It's all going to be new.

[@AdventureOtaku]

That last sentence is great! You wont know. Don’t think of it as trying boats to see which one is right, think of it as trying lots of boats to learn how they are different. That’s how we build a knowledge base.

[@billshepard9525]

Any advice, comment, or thoughts on lower back and hip problems?

[@AdventureOtaku]

Send me an email, tell me what’s going on… Brett AT adventure otaku .com

[@gradyrm237]

54 years old. Athletic. I bought a cheap kayak to see if I like the sport. I do and want to buy a higher end boat. Zero places in central PA to 'rent' a different one each week. I've researched more about kayaks than any one man should and have my supposed preferences buy don't know for sure until I'm in the seat. I have a Harley and if someone wanted to drive it to see if they liked it is out of the question. I guess kayak owners are different? I $1000 plus kayak lend is a hard thing to ask for. I'll look into Amazon's return policy. HA

[@gradyrm237]

I subscribed.

[@AdventureOtaku]

The lack of ability to test paddle a boat is one of the communities bigger problems. Some dealers at the beginning of the season will do “demo days.” So they will go to a lake bring 100 boats and let people test paddle them. A dealer I teach for occasionally does this (NC based). Yeah, I don’t like letting people paddle my boat, but if someone reached out and said “could I….” I would make it happen for them. It is probably hit or miss. I will say, when I bought my first delta, I went to East Coast Kayak festival and was disappointed Delta wasn’t there. I did find a dealer who carried them, but the only boat they had was purchased and being picked up by the new owner that day. I found him and he let me paddle his BRAND NEW BOAT! I ordered one the next day. So, it’s rare… but you can find people who will let you test paddle. What boat did you decide on? (Also, REI has a good return policy.)

[@AdventureOtaku]

Thanks!

[@gradyrm237]

@@AdventureOtaku I like the Loon 120 based on reviews. I need my knees above my feet a little to help with circulation. REI brick and mortar doesn't having one but they sell online. What to get in and out of one before plunking down that kind of money.

[@AdventureOtaku]

@@gradyrm237 plunk down the money, have it shipped to a store. Sit in it in the store, don’t like, it walk right to the register and return it.

[@keithduncan4450]

I want to upgrade eventually to a Delta or Eddyline, but the problem is there are no Delta dealers in the southeast and only 1 Eddyline dealer other than REI stores close to my home in Augusta, GA.

[@AdventureOtaku]

If you are in Georgia, REI carries Delta with the only problem being do they have it in stock….

[@keithduncan4450]

Do they do demos though?

[@AdventureOtaku]

As far as I know, no REI stores do demos. They do have a great return policy though. Check with the store. While it is doubtful, maybe they have one in a rental fleet or an experiences fleet.

[@marycrawford9428]

Delta owner - I had to find a dealer and order what I wanted. Worth the long wait and the three hour drive. Love my delta.

[@jeffeds-u7b]

I also missed your survey, and I am not a new paddler i have been on the water on and off for 25 years, i love wild camping but now i love to mix camping with kayaking, i live in plymouth england so i have good access to the sea, i have been caught out more than once. your sea safety video was a great help. my fear is all i don't know and getting stuck in my boat.

[@AdventureOtaku]

I have to tell you 2 things. 1) I was in Plymouth a long time ago and really enjoyed it. 2) in near 30 years of paddling I have never, NEVER seen anyone get stuck in the boat. But I have seen a lot of people who are afraid they are going to get stuck. Completely normal to fear that. But it doesn't happen.

[@feierabj9339]

I am a 76 year old new paddler , but keeping up.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Outstanding! Keep it up!

[@iviewthetube]

I'm 67, my paddling buddy was in his 80's.

[@AdventureOtaku]

You are my key demographic. Thanks for watching!

[@iviewthetube]

@@AdventureOtaku My paddling buddy who was in his 80's had paddled all of the way from Olympia WA to Skagway AK. He climbed Mt. Baker in his 70's. A car hit him while on his bike when he was about 85 and it broke too many bones for him to want to paddle anymore. He passed away at age 88.

[@AdventureOtaku]

Im sorry to hear that.

[@adrianboehm]

🇨🇦❤

[@steveturner9706]

Great video, im an experienced paddling instructor from Canada. Im considering creating a chanal to promote outdoors and healthy living. Anyway we can work together? Steve

[@AdventureOtaku]

I’d love to Steve. Email me. BrettATadventureotaku.com

[@jayburne6825]

3 years paddling 53 years old

[@AdventureOtaku]

Keep it up!

[@AdventureOtaku]

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[@kevincasey2947]

Older then you paddlers need to know when you roll your kayak you will soak your stoves and you won't be able to cook up a bucket of carbs for yourself! 🤣

[@AdventureOtaku]

Um hmmm…. Noted.

[@TheRealGrandadNo1]

45? 55? old? Good grief man, that is nothing, nowhere near old or older. I am well into my eighth decade on this planet I kayak on the sea and rivers, and just I am approaching the prime of my life!

[@AdventureOtaku]

And that is great for you, and I hope in 25 years I am feeling the same. But keep in mind, on a regular basis I see students in their 40's and 50's with not enough core strength to sit up straight. Where lifting their boats on the roof of a vehicle is impossible. Those are the people I am talking to.

[@TheSeriousWaterman]

It's a shame the younger generation has little interest in sea kayaking. Maybe someday they will grow up!

[@AdventureOtaku]

Maybe…..