Bought one of these, gets the job done, don’t know how I have lived without it all these years, invaluable when fault finding as you can say yay or nay to earth leakages before you start taking everything apart looking for loose neutrals, well worth the money
@enkig26242 жыл бұрын
Have u found it to be accurate?
@daveinglis70802 жыл бұрын
@@enkig2624 accurate enough, it finds the earth leakage and therefore the problem , it really is a great piece of kit
@rattlehead854 жыл бұрын
Good Video Jordan. These little devices will come into play much more now with the need to use different types of RCD and the bad practice still employed by many sparks out there who just hang lots of circuits off of one RCD without understanding the concepts..this then leaves us to diagnose these faults using gadgets like this. 👍🏻 I’ve used one of these to redesign circuits falling under the tag of “High protective conductor current circuits” serving I.T equipment.
@Tools4Sparks4 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@Marcel_Germann4 жыл бұрын
There are several tasks for this device. 1. Is the one you've mentioned, if you're looking for the reason why the RCD is tripping. 2. Required for the PAT (portable appliance test) of a three-phase appliance. Three-phase appliances are not so easy to test as single-phase. For the leakage current you'll have to use such a clamp meter. 3. Insulation monitoring where you can't switch the power off to measure the insulation the conventional way. I use this one: www.benning.de/products-en/testing-measuring-and-safety-equipment/current-clamp-multimeter/benning-cm-9.html Benning is a known german manufacturer, mostly known for their 2-pole voltage testers. The trademark for their voltage testers is Duspol for decades. And it is so common that almost every german electrician calls a 2-pole voltage tester a Duspol, even if it is made by another company, Fluke for example. The last Duspol N generation from 1975 was so popular, they manufactured it in parallel to the more modern versions until 2003. They only changed the colour of the housing from orange to red. Just a neon indicator for a potential dangerous voltage in one handle (in case of DC it also indicates polarity), and in the other a plunger coil instrument where you can read the voltage when the button is pushed (110 to 750V). www.benning.de/files/benning/global_content/content/news/powernews/2013_12/duspol_generation_2013/duspol_generation_2013.jpg But that's almost leading too far.... It should work from a single core. You forget one thing: The current can also use a different way to earth as the earth wire...the earth wire is a potential way, but not the only possible way. So the best way to see how high the differential current really is, is using the line/neutral differential current measuring. A possible way could be the water pipe or a gas pipe. So you wouldn't see anything if you measure on the earth wire of the appliance. Both pipes are also bonded to the grounding system if they're made of metal.
@Tools4Sparks4 жыл бұрын
Great thanks!
@JoeyMudflats4 жыл бұрын
Bought my grandson a cheap multimeter from Amazon the other day. Thsinde 18B+. Available on its own for £44.99 or bundled with a clamp meter 38B+ for £42.99. (!) So he got a multimeter and I got a clamp meter. To my surprise the clamp meter has a 2A range which reads 0.001A to 1.999A. I've tried it and it seems to read earth leakage reliably.
@Tools4Sparks4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@enkig26242 жыл бұрын
Is this accurate under testing thats the question we need answering 🤔
@zoom_h2625 Жыл бұрын
I am using the hioki CM4002. Normally you should be able to measure one cable. The problem to do it only on PE is that you could get a different value, if the machine is grounded. An the clamp is rated for 60A ±(2.0%+5d)! It should do.
@alexdavies66523 жыл бұрын
Hi mate are these any good? What's the lowest reading you can get
@markharrison79703 жыл бұрын
Beware when measuring Active + Neutral current on the supplier side of a switchboard. In Australia at least all Neutrals and Earths are connected together at the switchboard and will mess up any reading you make. Likewise the building's Earth wire going to the ground stake will be misleading as it may be carrying only some of local leakage current and also some of the leakage from all other consumers down the street. If you have a dry or broken earth stake then you won't see any current (but a voltage may fry you!). Tying to measuring earth leakage on the earth wire at any point in the system is also unreliable if any device in the house has an alternative path to ground (metal water pipes to a dishwasher for instance). The RCD's/ELCB's on your switchboard measure earth leakage as a difference between Active and Neutral currents and ignore the Earth current for a very good reason. P.S. There should not be any reason why you can't measure current in a single wire with this meter. It should be fine for Active, Neutral and Earth wires up to the meter's rated current.
@HeathenGeek4 жыл бұрын
with the data hold button can you leave the clamp on some cables for a while, come back and it will give the the max value that went through it while you were away?
@iamsamkerr4 жыл бұрын
You can do with the Megger one
@ashmanelectricalservices43184 жыл бұрын
What you're talking about is a earth leakage clamp meter with the ability to hold the peak current.
@MrEggaz4 жыл бұрын
@@iamsamkerr which model is that? im interested
@iamsamkerr4 жыл бұрын
@@MrEggaz it’s the Megger DCM305E Earth Leakage Clamp Meter. Great bit of kit.
@MrEggaz4 жыл бұрын
@@iamsamkerr thank you, just done a bit of research on it and watched the demo video. you are not wrong, what a bit of kit. will be treating myself i think.
@GreenHawkElectrical4 жыл бұрын
Great review mate very well informed 👍
@Tools4Sparks4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@clihans134 жыл бұрын
I have the older tis550 cost me £180. But the 550 has a more sensible range 200mA - 2A - 150A, why 2 mA and 20mA what if your testing 100mA RCD for random tripping, even the 60A may not be enough if testing max load. Also yes you should be able to test CPC wire only as I test both ways when I'm fault finding.
@Tools4Sparks4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Im not sure to be honest
@muzikman20084 жыл бұрын
I use a Amecal ST-98T Leakage current tester, has 200mA, 2A, and 200A ranges, great little clamp meter, also a cheapy thing. They actually sent me 2 by mistake lol...hey ho.. It has found earth leakage on a few jobs that tripped an RCD. Turned out to be downstairs Ring, and a washing machine leaking water over the motor when going through its cycle. So it paid for itself. Big Clive also did a review on it (same meter, different brand name) useful addition to an electricians tool box as they are cheap (made in China like most stuff these days) and pay for themselves after one use. Mine was about £36.00 as far as I can remember was a couple of years ago. No brainer. get one.
@bakray4 жыл бұрын
It's looks good but I'd rather it had different ranges. I think the 2ma and 20ma settings not really useful. I'd rather it had a 40ma setting as it's lowest.
@fixit8495 Жыл бұрын
Will it read above 20mA?
@vincenthigginbotham87292 жыл бұрын
What about 3 phase systems
@patrickcannell225810 ай бұрын
If you get it around L1, L2, L3 and N with a 4 wire system you will get the leakage. For a 3 wire like a 3 phase motor, L1, L2 and L3.
@MrDoubledrive4 жыл бұрын
Jordan, David Savery always raves about the quality of TIS.
@Tools4Sparks4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@robkiss52724 жыл бұрын
Nice video Jordan. I use an Amecal which is quite good for the job but I know T.I.S is a good brand.
@Tools4Sparks4 жыл бұрын
Cool thanks
@mathman01014 жыл бұрын
As marcel talks about the main use of this tool is to determine earth leakage, I guess the more expensive clamps also do earth/ground resistance and testing the quality of earthing not just phase neutral and RCD testing. Transients, low frequency effects from capacitive and inductive loads generated from devices you mentioned all cause leakage. Not sure it has a filter to remove noise and to get an accurate read. For the price it was worthwhile. I have a fluke 1630-2fc twenty times the RRP of the TIS though it has a precise Hall effect sensor and filters not sure the TIS has the same and does earth resistance and has a larger clamp head. In UK when you run a unit to a garage/shed and have to use earth rods then then a clamp that does also earth resistance would come into its own to check the quality of the grounding. This type of clamp would also allow measurement on energized circuits. Though to do a more accurate earth ground resistance and quality of grounding a fall of potential (Jenner) method would need to be used. John ward did an excellent demonstration of this some time ago.
@qwqwbnbn61924 жыл бұрын
I bout my brand new tis 560 35 pound on ebay 4 month ago, now i cant find it less than 110 .
@Tools4Sparks4 жыл бұрын
Nice deal!
@RWATraineeElectrician4 жыл бұрын
Nice review, thanks for sharing 👍
@elektrikeren50494 жыл бұрын
It’s a need it in Denmark. Because you are only allowed 30% fault leak pr. RCD (30ma = 9ma(30%)). I don’t know if it’s the same in UK? I use a fluke. T.I.S is a NO-GO, Because it means piss on Danish.🙈😂😂 Otherwise I Think T.I.S is a good brand.
@rattlehead854 жыл бұрын
Same in the UK now. 30% per RCD
@elektrikeren50494 жыл бұрын
rattlehead85 Thanks.👍🏻
@paul_my_plumbs_uk4 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍 Jordan
@Tools4Sparks4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ashmanelectricalservices43184 жыл бұрын
If you got it for £60 then you got a bargain mate. I've got a Megger DCM305E earth leakage clamp meter and it cost me 4 times that.
@Tools4Sparks4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@affy6754 жыл бұрын
If it was £60 that was a bloody bargain! If you get bored of it ill happily buy it off you 😂
@Tools4Sparks4 жыл бұрын
HAHA
@nothrill_trumpnothrill18623 жыл бұрын
Useless review... you should show actual measurements