Titan II Legacy - Part 1: Construction

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@danielmcnally8639
@danielmcnally8639 6 жыл бұрын
I was honored to play my part in the Titan II program, as a Propellant Transfer Specialist in the 308th Missile Inspection and Maintenance Squadron, Little Rock AFB, AR - 1967 - 1969.
@3melendr
@3melendr 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel McNally thank you for your service to our country as a missileer and doing what I could not do though I tried. I remember getting a career catalog from the Air Force recruiting station in Lincoln, Nebraska. The catalog had a picture of a Titan II missile in silo on the front cover.
@SteveHolsten
@SteveHolsten 5 жыл бұрын
Were there ever any missiles kept at the Blytheville Air Base? I live 30 miles NW of there.
@polskipartaczwjukej6066
@polskipartaczwjukej6066 5 жыл бұрын
Whos care
@Drcoctopuss
@Drcoctopuss 5 жыл бұрын
Polski partacz w jukej fuck off
@joek511
@joek511 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service. I to am a VET, but I look back now, having seen the horrors of people blown to pieces, freinds and fellow sevicemen,, and I say,,, never again. I will not raise a hand against another human being. this is insanity, a weapon able to turn an entire city +++ into ashes,,,, is nothiing to glorify. May God forgive me and have mercy on us.
@eduardowatkinz
@eduardowatkinz 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. I was a Combat Crew Commander 1977-1981 stationed at Davis Monthan AFB, 390TH SMW, 571 SMS.
@ThompsonAtomicRanch
@ThompsonAtomicRanch 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your service! Did you ever pull alerts in 571-3?
@eduardowatkinz
@eduardowatkinz 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThompsonAtomicRanch That was my home site... Then ACP crew at 571-1.
@Ferndalien
@Ferndalien 5 жыл бұрын
In the early 1990's I was gathering information for the design of buried pipe for draining waste chemicals. I soon realized that, while the research was done by geology and civil engineering departments of various universities around the country, most of it was funded by the US Air Force. That organization probably knew more about buried structures than any other organization or institution in the country, or probably the world. Not what you'd expect an air force to be expert in.
@OpenGL4ever
@OpenGL4ever 5 жыл бұрын
That's why Stargate Command is operated by the Airforce.
@maddog7795
@maddog7795 5 жыл бұрын
@Jake Meek btw I'm a former NASA astronaut and have been to the I.S.S myself and seen the earth through the cupola window...
@williammuller2969
@williammuller2969 5 жыл бұрын
@@maddog7795 Thank you for your dedication & hard work in NASA. I always wanted to become an astronaut, but vision & poror health, quickly killed that dream. But I was old enough to understand the last Gemini flights, and all the Apollo missions. I vividly remember Watching Neil Armstrong take the first steps on the moon. (Mom let me stay up late, she knew we would be experiencing history.)
@goodbyemr.anderson5065
@goodbyemr.anderson5065 5 жыл бұрын
Jake Meek my father in law sailed around the world dip shit!! You can too. The earth is not flat
@maddog7795
@maddog7795 5 жыл бұрын
@Jake Meek not gonna argue with ya bud theirs nothing I can do to convince you about the earth being flat.. I could send you videos of me in space but you would claim those are photoshopped by nasa. I'm sorry we have a diff of opinion and I wish you the best.
@brucebedford5121
@brucebedford5121 5 жыл бұрын
They state the sites were operational by Christmas 1961, actually phase one was completed in 1961. It wasn't until April 1963 before a missile was in the silo and SAC was informed it was ready for alert duty. Phase two was plumbing, heating, power production and wiring and controls. Phase three started in mid 1962 checking out the equipment and their controls, instillation of missiles. I got to Davis-Monthan on the 3 of Jan. 1963 I was an MFT "missile facilities Teck. Basic responsible for keeping every thing installed in phase two working properly." I was assigned to crew 43 and we were assigned site 570-7 and spent several months testing the equipment and observing missile insulation. 570-7 went on alert on May 24 1963. I completed my 4 years in Apr 1966 having spent about 6000 hours under ground.
@carstuff4u942
@carstuff4u942 5 жыл бұрын
Bruce Bedford thanks Bruce, I did question the authors authenticity when he said this whole thing was finished in one year.
@LFroetschner
@LFroetschner 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service to this nation. “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”
@mitchjones2821
@mitchjones2821 5 жыл бұрын
Talk about your unsung hero’s. You people were the only thing keeping our country safe during the Cold War! And in the ground no less. I’m sure there was a novelty to it at first, but had to be miserable as time went on! I live 15 miles from a privately owned site. Hoping to check it out. I’ve recently become slightly obsessed with these, and this time in our country! Thank you for your sacrifice and service!
@Infinity2219
@Infinity2219 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mauivegan67 1mm to 12mm is sheet metal workers. After 12 mm you are a plater yes your grandfather was a plater not a mere tin basher ,respect is due at plater level,as a dying art I posses the knowledge of working steel 200mm or greater . I'm sure your grandfather was a legend in my field so please hold in even higher esteem his achievements as it is truly top end that man can produce.
@deezynar
@deezynar 5 жыл бұрын
When the subject of the cold war would come up in class, my elementary school teachers would tell us about all the missile silos that circled our town, and said that between the silos, and the air force base, we were one of the 5 most important targets the USSR had, and there was no way anyone here was going to survive a nuclear war. Happy times.
@williammuller2969
@williammuller2969 5 жыл бұрын
I remember doing the "Duck & Cover" under the desk in the classroom & the halls of the Junior High school & High school too.... :D
@adamk203
@adamk203 5 жыл бұрын
Having lived my whole life in Colorado Springs, I've lived with the reality that this city is a perpetual nuclear magnet. With NORAD and other vital command centers, there is no question of being on the receiving end of a dozen or so nukes if nuclear war ever broke out.
@chriscota5679
@chriscota5679 5 жыл бұрын
I always felt it'd be better to go out quickly than to suffer through the aftermath.
@david9783
@david9783 5 жыл бұрын
@@chriscota5679 I'm with you on that one, Chris!
@deezynar
@deezynar 5 жыл бұрын
@phục êwê I don't think my teachers were jerks because they told us we would be killed if the U.S. and USSR went to war. It was true, and most kids don't know what it all means anyway. I think kids who's parents get divorced suffer from more stress than I did thinking about being nuked.
@Mike_Malloy
@Mike_Malloy 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely done video. I was an RPIE Electrician in the 308th Titan II at LRAFB from 1980-1986. Just watched Command and Control again last night. Visiting the Titan II museum in AZ is on my bucket list.
@ThompsonAtomicRanch
@ThompsonAtomicRanch 5 жыл бұрын
The museum is an awesome place to visit! I'm sure it'll bring back many memories when you make it there. Thx for watching!
@JimsEquipmentShed
@JimsEquipmentShed 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing projects, I’m glad those images were declassified. What a cool thing to see.
@robucrobuc9316
@robucrobuc9316 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. I was on a launch crew towards the end of the program. Excellent construction photos. Well done.
@Bbendfender
@Bbendfender 5 жыл бұрын
I was on a Titan II launch crew at McConnell in the early/mid 70's. I feel lucky to have had the experience. Wouldn't trade it for anything.
@sparc77
@sparc77 5 жыл бұрын
Early 80s to the end.
@david9783
@david9783 5 жыл бұрын
I was on a Nike-Hercules launch crew about the same time,in Germany. That was Army,but we still had nukes...2 man rule and all that.Wouldn't trade it for anything either!
@Bbendfender
@Bbendfender 5 жыл бұрын
@@david9783 It was a lot of fun and I can't believe it happened well over 40 years ago. Seems like just yesterday.
@smw381st
@smw381st 4 жыл бұрын
I was with the 532nd for a while then I was transferred to Maintenance and I lived in the 2 dorms #321 and #320
@davidduffield7553
@davidduffield7553 5 жыл бұрын
in 1967, I became an enlisted man in the Mini-man missile program of SAC (USAF). This was a real cold war situation here in America, right here in Missouri.
@giancarlomoscetti215
@giancarlomoscetti215 5 жыл бұрын
My cousin lived near Oxford, Kansas and had one of these in his back yard, seriously. We'd ride his go-kart on the paved road (in the middle of nowhere!) right up to the entrance, imagining the air crew watching us, lol!
@juliogonzo2718
@juliogonzo2718 5 жыл бұрын
They prob got alerted by motion detection systems every time lol "was it commie spies?" "No it was the go kart again.."
@LandNfan
@LandNfan 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been on the sites around Wichita, KS many times. From Sept. 1966 through Feb. 1969, I was assigned to the 381st Strategic Missile Wing at McConnell AFB maintaining communication equipment on the launch sites.
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 2 жыл бұрын
You and your comrades and Russian counterparts had the the ability to see to it, that MT generation would never see the light of day. How I'm sure we give you reason to wish we never existed, however how can you look at us and at all the goid that is around us and know you'd were so close to being part of a system that would have annihilated it all in approximately 30 minutes?
@aussiesurfer805
@aussiesurfer805 5 жыл бұрын
phenomenal engineering, construction AND expense ... War (even when it's cold) is certainly good business in the US ....
@aussiesurfer805
@aussiesurfer805 5 жыл бұрын
reverse thrust Dear minion factory worker and/or hole digger , is this discussion to difficult for you to follow ??
@frother
@frother 5 жыл бұрын
The inflation adjusted number in the video is *comically* wrong. 12.6 million in 1960 dollars is about 110 million today, not 1.8 billion.
@aussiesurfer805
@aussiesurfer805 5 жыл бұрын
frother Thanks mate - it did seem ridiculously high .... would still make for a very nice lotto win though ... especially after exchanging it to $AUD ... 👐 😃
@ScottDLR
@ScottDLR 5 жыл бұрын
I used to snoop through one of these in Moses Lake Wa. It was an awe inspring thing to see in person. Lots of kids had parties down there over the years but someone finally came along and sealed it shut.
@david9783
@david9783 5 жыл бұрын
Party pooper!
@markclark1654
@markclark1654 3 жыл бұрын
Not one of these. The Moses Lake sites were Titan I, the predecessor of this system, 3 silos per site and decommissioned in the mid 1960s. Major Mark Clark, former senior crew deputy at MAFB and LRAFB.
@jacoblathrop1835
@jacoblathrop1835 5 жыл бұрын
The color pictures look like they were taken yesterday.
@adamk203
@adamk203 5 жыл бұрын
Color slide film is superb for archival use. There are Kodachrome images from 70+ years ago that still look new.
@Maybe1Someday
@Maybe1Someday 3 жыл бұрын
There wernt pixels back then. I got my granfathers projector going (for pictures) and film reel going (for movies) when I was drunk months ago. The picture was so clear it was like a time machine to moments from the 1940s.
@rbarger71
@rbarger71 3 жыл бұрын
Simply amazing what could be accomplished in such a short period of time back then.
@wramsey2656
@wramsey2656 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! American ingenuity is amazing. Civil engineers will love this video.
@danielmarshall4587
@danielmarshall4587 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the fantastic detail in this vid. Great upload.
@timmensch3601
@timmensch3601 5 жыл бұрын
This is the video I was looking for there is no video on how these were built thankyou!!!
@wilson4328
@wilson4328 5 жыл бұрын
It was actually Martin Marietta. Titan II communications technician, Davis-Monthan AFB Arizona, June 1980 to June 1984.
@franimal007
@franimal007 5 жыл бұрын
Ok can’t wait. Very interesting! Great work! Great to see the construction! Thank you!
@burgesskj
@burgesskj 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice views, thanks for sharing.
@Game-The-System
@Game-The-System 5 жыл бұрын
Truly fascinating stuff. Thank you for posting!
@bryanmontgomery996
@bryanmontgomery996 5 жыл бұрын
Such excellent work here. Extremely informative. Thank you so much.
@darwinjina
@darwinjina 4 жыл бұрын
remembering the civil defense drills and students getting under their desk
@jonbowman7686
@jonbowman7686 3 жыл бұрын
duck and cover!
@EQMVB
@EQMVB 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary series! Thank you from a follower at Portugal.
@ThompsonAtomicRanch
@ThompsonAtomicRanch 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you like it! I'll be making some more soon
@ApertureSCAEC2
@ApertureSCAEC2 5 жыл бұрын
Just pointing out that to get 2018 dollars (when this video was made) from 1960's dollars, you would multiply 12,600,000 by 7.4833 Which gives you a total facility cost of about $106,890,000. Not 1.8 billion
@thedave7760
@thedave7760 5 жыл бұрын
I thought that sounded a bit to much.
@ThompsonAtomicRanch
@ThompsonAtomicRanch 5 жыл бұрын
These numbers come from a book written by Chuck Penson, a Titan II history buff. Perhaps he got the numbers wrong?
@robdavy4468
@robdavy4468 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThompsonAtomicRanch Totally did. $1.8bn is for all 18 of them, as $12.6m is about $100m in today's money.
@topquark6919
@topquark6919 3 жыл бұрын
An amazing feat of engineering & design. Human ingenuity at it's best and most scary. Preparing for the end of the world.
@sparc77
@sparc77 5 жыл бұрын
Some of the best years of my life were in those complexes around Wichita, Kansas.
@sparc77
@sparc77 5 жыл бұрын
@Dirk Pitt Absolutely! From high school to the the Missile Wing, and later in the Bomber Wing and then to college and on to career, I have made many friends, but the only ones who regularly visit and keep in touch were those I made in the 381st SMW at McConnell.
@smw381st
@smw381st 4 жыл бұрын
I was stationed at McConnell from March 1971 to April 1974 and I did several different tasks to help keep the Missile launch ready.
@MickNJ1979
@MickNJ1979 5 жыл бұрын
They used local companies buy their welding materials keep hidden the ammount they used so it would not be suspicious where all this material was going
@stainedred5463
@stainedred5463 5 жыл бұрын
A company called Bush and Dunbar are still doing the painting and repairing of these missile silo's in America if you want a good paying no education needed job.
@mereclander
@mereclander 5 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation. Thank you!!!
@trxtech3010
@trxtech3010 5 жыл бұрын
Wow Weird seeing Tucson AZ back in the 60's!
@DonHarden
@DonHarden 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you for sharing.
@bobmar9239
@bobmar9239 5 жыл бұрын
I took the tour of the museum in Tucson Arizona. I push the 20-ton door with one finger and got it to move. I got to turn the key on a simulated missile launch.
@david9783
@david9783 5 жыл бұрын
Cool..I'd like to push that door-must have had some good bearings!
@franimal007
@franimal007 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video but where is phase 2? I don’t want to watch phase 3 yet.
@ThompsonAtomicRanch
@ThompsonAtomicRanch 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Haha, phase 2 is going to take more effort as I would like to get interviews of those that actually worked in the Titan II complexes. I'd like to get first hand accounts from the launch crews as well as those that maintained the missiles and other components. Should be within the next month or so. Coming soon! :)
@markwullenschneider195
@markwullenschneider195 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Proud son of my dad and grand dad that where both titan missile mechanics:)
@insideoutsideupsidedown2218
@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 Жыл бұрын
Commentator was not correct in narration of what the purpose of these missiles were. They were not first strike weapons, so these missile complexes were not made for an “incoming retaliatory strike”. The Titan II was a retaliatory weapon.
@OVERHERE-OVERHERE
@OVERHERE-OVERHERE 5 жыл бұрын
May be considered a relic today it help keep the peace for over 50 years
@Crashed131963
@Crashed131963 5 жыл бұрын
They closed them now we are sitting ducks.
@UltraNyan
@UltraNyan 4 жыл бұрын
@@Crashed131963 Do you realize you can launch ICBM from a back of the truck now?
@danielmcnally8639
@danielmcnally8639 3 жыл бұрын
the Titan II ICBMs went operational in 1963 and the last was taken off alert in 1987. They had become obsolete because they were extremely dangerous to maintain. They were only supposed to be in service from five to seven years but because they formed a huge percentage of our nuclear capability, they kept extending the operational life. Eventually, common sense prevailed and the aging missiles were retired.
@Eric_Malbos
@Eric_Malbos 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thnak you. What was the electric power source of such a base? A local fuel electrical generator?
@tolfan4438
@tolfan4438 5 жыл бұрын
Okay what happened to the Dozer that was scraping the whole that's down there at the bottom that they just cement over it that they like crane it out what seriously I need an answer it's been bugging me the entire rest of the video
@ThompsonAtomicRanch
@ThompsonAtomicRanch 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they lifted it out with the large crane thru had on site 😉
@ChiDraconis
@ChiDraconis 5 жыл бұрын
*tolfan* I have been amazed myself at what can be done; The dozer is not all that huge; It gets lifted out with craning and rigging; You just get a big enough crane;
@timmensch3601
@timmensch3601 5 жыл бұрын
Wow some people have no common sense yea they just pour concrete over there expensive dozer........smdh
@chrishanson9748
@chrishanson9748 5 жыл бұрын
Well, as deep as it was, it's not beyond possibility that dozer drove out of the hole on its own tracks - they were and still are quite agile vehicles.
@jc1982discovery
@jc1982discovery 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing piece of world history.
@aandc2005
@aandc2005 5 жыл бұрын
That documentary was well done! A perfect blend of music and narration with the old photos! It's sad that we can't get along with we other and we fight over stupid shit!! Money, power, land! We could have been exploring other worlds by now if we weren't killing ea other off..
@currentcolt3655
@currentcolt3655 5 жыл бұрын
In all likelihood we probably would still be in the dark ages without our incessant desire for war, one of the main reasons we’re even able to leave the atmosphere is because of a desire to bomb London without losing valuable men, without war we would have nothing.
@cowboygeologist7772
@cowboygeologist7772 4 жыл бұрын
Good report.
@LSDdreams808
@LSDdreams808 4 жыл бұрын
Really amazing an fast they dont make them like they used to
@Ringele5574
@Ringele5574 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks for posting.
@fuffoon
@fuffoon 2 жыл бұрын
It might be a hike to the nearest grocery store but I have always wanted a missile silo home. A little rancher living/kitchen above and a villa below.
@kiwionsafari8641
@kiwionsafari8641 5 жыл бұрын
OMG simply don’t know where to begin commenting! G8 vid and understand how these installations were necessary during the Cold War (Thankfully never used)🌎 peace be amongst us globally🎴
@663rainmaker
@663rainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
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@kiwionsafari8641
@kiwionsafari8641 5 жыл бұрын
@@663rainmaker Sounds like a story here re "EVRAZ group of Russia 🇷🇺 inside America USA 🇺🇸 2007"? No time to investigate further.. how about making a vid on this topic. Thanks though & cheers Man!
@ldr9146
@ldr9146 3 жыл бұрын
During 1966 I was in the Air Force stationed at Davis-Monthan AFB 390th SMS. While there I worked with a SGT Brewer as electricians. We were close friends and have lost contact, would like any information where he lives.
@Maybe1Someday
@Maybe1Someday 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of raw materials and effort... Just to backfill or destroy them in the future....
@gregnancyspear4367
@gregnancyspear4367 3 жыл бұрын
Only the silo was imploded. The control center is still servicable
@fasteddie4145
@fasteddie4145 4 жыл бұрын
I spent a lot of time on Level 6 working om the MSA......ELAB '79-'83'
@blakem9109
@blakem9109 5 жыл бұрын
When in doubt, build it stout!
@david9783
@david9783 5 жыл бұрын
And they DID build it stout,didn't they?
@jacksmith3189
@jacksmith3189 5 жыл бұрын
The music through out this video is the same as the closing music in “Castaway.”
@ColonelWillGaming
@ColonelWillGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Thank i knew i knew but could not place it
@timothysysko
@timothysysko 5 жыл бұрын
Jack Smith I thought it was from Band of Brothers
@theopinion9452
@theopinion9452 5 жыл бұрын
Is in the video description,if anyone cares to read it,geniuses!
@50megatondiplomat28
@50megatondiplomat28 2 жыл бұрын
Atomic Rancher, I think it would be cool if you added a Western or Psychobilly music intro and outro to your vids. IDK, I think it would just fit. Unless you do a Nike Ajax/Hercules vid, then of course you'd need to play "Nike a go-go" by The Misfits.
@samsamaniego3251
@samsamaniego3251 3 жыл бұрын
Eric malbos power came from commercial power companies. But there was an diesel-powered generator that supported the needs of the launch facility IF commercial power was lost.
@TheEDNC
@TheEDNC 5 жыл бұрын
Cyberdyne Systems sure took note!
@stormchaser8472
@stormchaser8472 4 жыл бұрын
i wish all of these complexes would have been kept up in usable condition
@cuchulainodare3534
@cuchulainodare3534 3 жыл бұрын
The great failure of modern economy is the unimaginable amount of upkeep. Just a regular house with power, water and general maintenance costs about 10% build cost per year, and with a far more complex system at a certain point it would cost less to abandon and build a new system than to maintain a 30 year old bunker, remember under ground holds moisture and concrete abrades as the rebar slowly rusts and cracks the concrete further. They were designed to withstand a sudden extreme attack not to survive for the ages that could be a modern concern Imagine if all the rebar were replaced with carbon fiber grid (a superior solution) but vastly more expensive closed cell spray foam as a moisture barrier inside and out after concrete pour would also add compression stability. You could build a structure that would last but even then you have equipment that needs maintenance like hvac electrical generator water and fuel tanks . That's the long of it, the short of it is I believe one is still maintained as a museum . I hope you found this response edifying, please don't respond with TLDR.
@stormchaser8472
@stormchaser8472 3 жыл бұрын
@@cuchulainodare3534 what the hells tldr?
@cuchulainodare3534
@cuchulainodare3534 3 жыл бұрын
@@stormchaser8472 Too Long Didn't Read, it was a subtle acknowledgment I'm long winded.
@stormchaser8472
@stormchaser8472 3 жыл бұрын
@@cuchulainodare3534 lol
@cuchulainodare3534
@cuchulainodare3534 3 жыл бұрын
@@stormchaser8472 glad I could bring a giggle. Have a happy New Year
@jonwatte4293
@jonwatte4293 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know how 12 million turns into 2 billion? In general, 1 dollar in 1960 is about 8.50 today.
@JamieVegas
@JamieVegas 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like it would be $100,920,000.
@jonwatte4293
@jonwatte4293 5 жыл бұрын
@@JamieVegas yeah, so all 18 silos come to 1.8 billion.
@phoenixzero-me7rv
@phoenixzero-me7rv 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to own one
@phoenixzero-me7rv
@phoenixzero-me7rv 5 жыл бұрын
@@cbot375 I'd even settle for a bad one, I'm a welder millwright
@nigelianlemon6101
@nigelianlemon6101 5 жыл бұрын
My father work in these in Vandenburg in the late sixties.
@jeffjohnson6402
@jeffjohnson6402 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Enjoyed.
@brianjorgensen6509
@brianjorgensen6509 5 жыл бұрын
your inflation calculation is way off, $12,600,000 in the early 60s would be the equivalent of about $107 million in 2019, not $1.8 billion.
@david9783
@david9783 5 жыл бұрын
If your calculation is correct,that's a HUGE difference!
@pcz5233
@pcz5233 5 жыл бұрын
Castaway theme music. Nice.
@djentmaster33
@djentmaster33 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah all I could think of because of this music was WIILLLLSOOOONNNN
@andyroo3022
@andyroo3022 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Hopefully other continents now capable of Nuclear strikes keep their cool.
@stuboyd1194
@stuboyd1194 5 жыл бұрын
Your price per complex must be incorrect. I calculate that 1.8 billion is almost 143 times more than 12.6 million.
@leighganschow5652
@leighganschow5652 5 жыл бұрын
Actual inflation from 1960 to 2019 results in 12,000,000 becoming 104,000,000 (or about 768% percent.) Given the scope of this project, and that a single F35 costs over a billion dollars - I don't think our current government could build a single one of these complexes for less than a billion dollars (billion = 1000 million).
@brianjorgensen6509
@brianjorgensen6509 5 жыл бұрын
i agree with you, it is ridiculously wrong.
@frankgibson7953
@frankgibson7953 5 жыл бұрын
At the time, they told us each complex cost $143 million. Plus another $10 million for the bird.
@sbreheny
@sbreheny Жыл бұрын
I don't understand the inflation calculation here. From 1960 to 2018, inflation totaled about 8.5x cost increase. This would put the cost per complex at about $100 million in today's dollars, not the >1 billion figure you show.
@lankaat
@lankaat 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Someone became pretty rich doing the contract.
@rnbspowa7of69
@rnbspowa7of69 5 жыл бұрын
With as many of these as we dug I wonder if they found anything like dinosaurs bones, historically significant archaeological finds and or just valuables like gold, diamond, minerals. I’m assuming because they were top-secret and nothing was more important than the security of our nation that things were found I’m not mentioned. My grandpa and uncle Ollie worked on silos in Washington state.
@663rainmaker
@663rainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Rodger B in Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 you don’t wanna know!
@sarcasmo57
@sarcasmo57 5 жыл бұрын
Are there equivalent newer ICBM bases today?
@OpenGL4ever
@OpenGL4ever 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but today's weapons are too precise. They are able to hit the missile silos directly. No bunker can withstand a direct hit of a nuclear weapon. Thus it makes no sense to build such bunker protected rocket silos anymore. In the past the situation was different. At that time, the bomb could hit only in an undefined range of some miles. With enough luck it weren't a direct hit and the bunker could withstand the shock-wave coming from the distance. Today it's much simpler and cheaper or better to put the rockets on a mobile truck or use submarines for that job.
@leechowning2712
@leechowning2712 5 жыл бұрын
Fixed missile bases still exist, however the modern armed services consider them more like the canary in the mine. The armed forces have always used our own potential as a judge of risk, and gps or laser targeting render any fixed bases simply targets.
@williammuller2969
@williammuller2969 5 жыл бұрын
Current ICBM bases: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.E._Warren_Air_Force_Base en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minot_Air_Force_Base en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmstrom_Air_Force_Base, but as you read the pages & en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGM-30_Minuteman#Minuteman-III_(LGM-30G) you will get an idea ofthe yealde of the warheads.
@Robb403
@Robb403 5 жыл бұрын
While the complex is an absolute marvel of engineering, I can't help be feel ashamed of humanity for wasting so many resources to play games of war. Think about what could have been accomplished had that material and labor been used for peacetime projects. The cost of these standoffs between the wealthy leaders of nations is tragic.
@NeverSuspects
@NeverSuspects 5 жыл бұрын
I bet today we globally consume far more resources simulating war in video games as entertainment. At least back when these structures were built they had the purpose of defending the ideals of those concerned with the spread of communist ideas and the tyrannical government systems that enforce what life for people will be almost like making people a farmed and caged resource to be used by those who manage to sit at the top of that power structure for however long they manage to keep it.
@ChiDraconis
@ChiDraconis 5 жыл бұрын
Okay but I will take this over Communist Legacy of the hearings;
@Robb403
@Robb403 5 жыл бұрын
@Joe Kinchicken Must you trolls insert your agenda into everything? This is not discussion current politics, it's about grand follies of the past. The current folly isn't even finished yet.
@paultrigger3798
@paultrigger3798 5 жыл бұрын
8:32 12.6 milion in 1960 would not be 1.8 billion today, not even close. A facility like this would cost hundreds of millions, but not billions.
@jonwatte4293
@jonwatte4293 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! CPI is about 8.4x. That being said, we know more about how to build survivable missile launch centers and other things, so we'd build it better now, and thus it would cost more. (Except static targets on the ground are tactically bad, so we don't build them at all.)
@fryerheath
@fryerheath 3 жыл бұрын
Is that the "band of Brothers" soundtrack?
@johnaugsburger6192
@johnaugsburger6192 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@southwestxnorthwest
@southwestxnorthwest 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been to two of these sites last year; both are privately owned now but I snuck on site anyway
@ThompsonAtomicRanch
@ThompsonAtomicRanch 2 жыл бұрын
Which ones have you visited?
@SanjinSecerbeg
@SanjinSecerbeg 5 жыл бұрын
very informative, thank you!!
@WWeronko
@WWeronko 3 жыл бұрын
The Titan I missile complex was even more impressive. It was a virtual city underground.
@freddy915
@freddy915 4 жыл бұрын
How much did it cost back then to build it then if it was built today
@thecman26
@thecman26 5 жыл бұрын
Impressive!
@willierants5880
@willierants5880 5 жыл бұрын
Correction, the Titan II missiles were not the most destructive weapons. They were only 9 Megatons. The Soviet missiles were much more powerful. The Titan II missiles were to be used in self defense only.
@insideoutsideupsidedown2218
@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 Жыл бұрын
9MT estimated. Still classified.
@Jdogblingbling
@Jdogblingbling 8 күн бұрын
in 6 years from making this video, the today price for one of those structures goes up to $134,215,966 adjusted for inflation. Guess I missed my chance to buy one and get it made
@onetimer44
@onetimer44 5 жыл бұрын
You keep sating retaliatory strike when talking about the protection of the silo. I don't think they were worried about the protection of the empty silo from a retaliatory nuclear strike. What you should have said was that it was built to withstand a nuclear first strike. Also the $12.6 million per complex in 1960s dollars converts to roughly $110 million, not $1.8 billion. I listened carefully and you said "per complex" with both the $12.6 million and the $1.8 billion. Do you mean for all 18 complexes together for $1.8 billion?
@Electronzap
@Electronzap 5 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@mickistevens4886
@mickistevens4886 5 жыл бұрын
Why would it cost 100 times as much from 1960 to now (12 mil to 1.8 bil)? Inflation hasn't been more than 10 times since then.
@robertnees9781
@robertnees9781 5 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't, the video is horribly wrong in this regard. The inflation number of $1.8B USD for ONE site is just wrong, it would be more like $110M USD (based upon the Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics for a 1960's $12.6M). The $1.8B number is more likely for ALL 18 sites.
@house9850
@house9850 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if modern "bunker busters" would take these out
@thecurtray
@thecurtray 5 жыл бұрын
this use to be my job in USAF. man it gives me chills to see this. wonder if this is why i am so damn crazy as most call me. hell my name is cray cray
@samdg1234
@samdg1234 5 жыл бұрын
What is reinforced rebar? 6:50
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 5 жыл бұрын
a typo.
@ChiDraconis
@ChiDraconis 5 жыл бұрын
That is how concrete is done; Reinforcing steel; It is 60,000 PSI Tensile ~concrete has no tensile so they work in opposition with one doing what the other cannot
@samdg1234
@samdg1234 5 жыл бұрын
@@ChiDraconis Thanks. I thoroughly understood that though. I was kind of attempting a joke. The way it is stated at the part I linked to makes it sound like you can have a "regular" rebar, but this installation used "reinforced" rebar. Couldn't they just have said 2" diameter rebar?
@ChiDraconis
@ChiDraconis 5 жыл бұрын
@@samdg1234 I dunno; This is probably an Old Codger; This is what I do so it looked real to me;
@ChiDraconis
@ChiDraconis 5 жыл бұрын
@@samdg1234 BTW this site is 89 miles from Hutch where I grew up
@edwardmoran1739
@edwardmoran1739 Жыл бұрын
Great video but bad choice of words on statement that sites were 8 miles apart to protect against retaliatory strikes. Titan was not designed as a first strike weapon system as seen in the very secure construction of the site. Titan was designed to avoid or survive a Soviet first strike and then retaliate. Peace is our Profession stuff.
@insideoutsideupsidedown2218
@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 Жыл бұрын
I stated that very sentiment above. Why would you build a faraday cage around your control center if you missile was a first strike weapon? You would only build one if the system was designed to retaliate.
@edwardmoran1739
@edwardmoran1739 Жыл бұрын
@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 haha no wonder it was so hard to sneak in a working TV to watch sports. Took an unauthorized cable in the emergency air duct.
@josemoreno3334
@josemoreno3334 5 жыл бұрын
I been to the LCF in Arizona back in 1981 to fix metro cable above ground that was cut by a contractor. I was a A1C then. I was station at Norton AFB , Trained as a telephone cable splicer. We use to be sent TDY a lot to many of the Air Force bases in the southwest. This was the first and last time i was sent there. It was closed a few years later.
@Crashed131963
@Crashed131963 5 жыл бұрын
The only weapon you wanted the other side to know about. What do we have as a deterrent today?
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify 5 жыл бұрын
The Minuteman III and Trident II missiles (the latter is submarine launched) make up much of the US's current nuclear deterrent.
@MegaBrAnDoN04
@MegaBrAnDoN04 3 жыл бұрын
So how was the bulldozer brought out of the hole after they got all the way to the bottom?
@dmitrymikheev7899
@dmitrymikheev7899 3 жыл бұрын
It's a surprize for those who will be stubborn enough to unmount the silo's floor. It's still there, carefully stored in concrete and rebar structure. If one will be lucky enough - there will be no operator nearby.
@williammielenz3752
@williammielenz3752 5 жыл бұрын
Who moved more concrete? Eisenhower's interstate system and missle bases or Hitler's Atlantic wall and other structures??? Who's the expert among us?
@nokiot9
@nokiot9 5 жыл бұрын
Heyyyy I’ve been to this one in Tucson many times. I’ve wanted to buy it from them lol
@nokiot9
@nokiot9 5 жыл бұрын
I remember in the silo they have a bunch of mannequin workers set up. If you take the private tour they let you run a test launch sequence and open and close the access blast door. But they said the main missile cover hasn’t been powered since like 1990
@damnjustassignmeone
@damnjustassignmeone 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. However, $12.6 million in 1962 translates to about $106 million adjusted for inflation. Not $1.8 billion...
@rhapsodyman2000
@rhapsodyman2000 5 жыл бұрын
damnjustassignmeone I do not think they only adjusted for inflation when they calculated it. They probably considered the modern estimate on the contract. Or it’s bs
@nevaehsmiracleconnieelliot2297
@nevaehsmiracleconnieelliot2297 5 жыл бұрын
Are you still working on phase 2
@ThompsonAtomicRanch
@ThompsonAtomicRanch 5 жыл бұрын
Part two is on my other videos actually. Feel free to watch it 😁
@peter.baerentzen
@peter.baerentzen 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video though the transitions and panning are crap - they spoil the whole video
@ThompsonAtomicRanch
@ThompsonAtomicRanch 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your helpful input. 😉
@ThunderAppeal
@ThunderAppeal 3 жыл бұрын
So basically NYC sky scrapers dont hold a candle to this stuff.
@kwhp1507
@kwhp1507 5 жыл бұрын
Did they leave the dozers in the bottom of the silos and bury them in the concrete?
@derekpierce2280
@derekpierce2280 5 жыл бұрын
They likely lifted the dozers out using the same crane that is removing the dirt
@grover26
@grover26 5 жыл бұрын
one of those complexes is equivalent in cost to 11.76 f-35s
@Emceepe
@Emceepe 5 жыл бұрын
Kelly the math in the video is ridiculously wrong. The cost is more around $120M in today’s dollars.
@sferrin2
@sferrin2 4 жыл бұрын
Damn.
@PeterRichardsandYoureNot
@PeterRichardsandYoureNot 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Can do without the Adam West, though.
@josephtaylor3857
@josephtaylor3857 Жыл бұрын
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