How To Machine 5 Axis Parts

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@JohnBlaze505
@JohnBlaze505 4 ай бұрын
I like the way this is programmed for a beginner to understand, very simple order of operations. Just because you have a 5 axis doesnt mean you need to have simultaneous movement for everything.
@urban625
@urban625 4 ай бұрын
3 + 2 is way more practical, I agree.
@Sara-TOC
@Sara-TOC 4 ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial, Jessie! I'm looking forward to seeing more like this!
@matthaushetzenauer2591
@matthaushetzenauer2591 4 ай бұрын
These are amazing please keep them coming!
@-PlayMaker-
@-PlayMaker- 4 ай бұрын
This is my favorite video by far. More please
@earendall
@earendall 4 ай бұрын
Step 1, Have a 5 axis machine :D
@markdavis304
@markdavis304 4 ай бұрын
Great tutorial to start getting into 5 axis, Jessie👏
@urban625
@urban625 4 ай бұрын
Love this channel! I use the HAAS UMC750, VF4 and TM1 so your videos relate incredibly. Whats the step over on the vortex roughing paths? Cant beleive the cutter isnt gumming using only air.
@sobocinski123
@sobocinski123 4 ай бұрын
Need to look into barrel milling cutters...that will increase your step over and lessen your scallops
@mobilePCreviews
@mobilePCreviews 4 ай бұрын
it's really cool how similar this is to setting up my dnm500. I'm sure there's alot more that goes into it, but I feel like I could jump on a 5 axis and not completely suck at it.
@lukewebster1816
@lukewebster1816 4 ай бұрын
Only additional thing to watch out for is making sure your spindle clears the table when the table rotates. Using the probe to automatically set C0 is way easier than indicating everything
@orimilegov4046
@orimilegov4046 4 ай бұрын
The Probing on this Part seems just so ridicilous to me. I work on GF and Hermle five axis mill's with a heidenhain control and renishaw probes. If we touch off second OP's we do it with the A-axis to -90° so that we can avoid the "Hat". It's really easy to program and also suitable for production.
@brianropel
@brianropel 4 ай бұрын
You should tell Barry about that semi finish thing. I’m pretty sure they didn’t teach him about semi finishing at Walmart in his greeter seminar
@barrysetzer
@barrysetzer 4 ай бұрын
Ohhhhhh i see we got JOKES
@nathanthomas8184
@nathanthomas8184 4 ай бұрын
Attention to detail, Great display Jessie & BOOM to Titans 800K subs
@Steelcrafted
@Steelcrafted 4 ай бұрын
Can you go into detail about the relationship between the X Y and Z work offsets you are telling the machine, and the dynamic work offsets that are allowing the simultaneous 5 axis movements? Is that all in the mastercam post processor? We have a 5 axis mazak at work, but don't have a 5 axis post processor for mastercam. So I can only do 3+2 and I have set each WO individually, and do manual B and C axis inputs. Help me understand the DWO process. Thanks!
@vgl217
@vgl217 4 ай бұрын
Typically, the machine tracks that single work coordinate no matter how your part rotates. The axes always stay oriented in line with your spindle. The machine coordinates in your program for full 5 axis moves are in reference to this single point and are no different than 3 axis coordinates, except they include a B&C along with XYZ. This gets super complicated to do by hand and yes, you will definitely need a 5 axis post from your mcam reseller to take advantage of this. If you're doing 3+2 with your current post, try programming all planes off a single point. We had to do something like this with our old post. Your WCS should remain where your initial pickup is, then make your toolplane where you normally would and orient it properly, then take your toolplane and translate it to the same point in space as your WCS. You should no longer have to pick up more than one WO in the machine, unless your post cannot handle B & C rotations properly. Be sure to set all Tplanes to the same number as your WCS. Better 5 axis posts don't need this because they can handle a datum shift, so they don't care where you put your planes, as long as Z is correct.
@angelasmith1405
@angelasmith1405 4 ай бұрын
My talented boy ❤
@xmartins2638
@xmartins2638 4 ай бұрын
When I use Renishaw probe, if I need to add an offset I do it in the ''advanced'' tab there is a place for offset there. So it You can automatically add the half of your part there, without doing it manually in the offset tab.
@14rs2
@14rs2 4 ай бұрын
Now do a ball in a box on a 5 axis!!
@moritzanselm2803
@moritzanselm2803 4 ай бұрын
i like the long videos
@wst2663
@wst2663 4 ай бұрын
I've had this question for a while. When doing the roughing on this part, the 201, and other parts like it, why would you want to rotate C0, C180, and then go back to the other sides? Wouldn't it be better and more efficient to just rotate C0, C90, C180, C270 since you are going to cut all the sides anyways?
@poriq
@poriq 4 ай бұрын
You can use long shaft with hole on it for dial indicator, we called it L-shape leg with dial indicator 3:25 It’s faster and without replace
@shaniegust1225
@shaniegust1225 4 ай бұрын
YES! The iconic TITAN-200 💥! My favorite part.
@dariennappi1401
@dariennappi1401 4 ай бұрын
A video on tilted work planes and probing macros would be cool.
@navneetpatil3017
@navneetpatil3017 4 ай бұрын
Please explain which commands use in programming
@turtlebeef
@turtlebeef 4 ай бұрын
the confusion i have about 5 axis is the correlation between work coordinateZ0 and center of rotation of the 5th axis and how it works. If your part is sitting further closer from center of rotation, wouldn't your absolute positions be totally different when at different angles?
@Andrey222ful
@Andrey222ful 4 ай бұрын
I would rough machine the head/top first on both sides, then go rough the bottom portion. It almost started to chatter in the video.
@urban625
@urban625 4 ай бұрын
Definitely...makes no sense to clear the undercut before the top lol
@rustysena2638
@rustysena2638 4 ай бұрын
I can hear some chatter when cutting the "head" area. I'm wondering if it would be smarter to cut around the head area first and the work towards the base to reduce chatter. That "neck" thing seems like a weak point. Maybe it doesn't really matter or maybe I'm just wrong?
@user-jg6bd7se8u
@user-jg6bd7se8u 4 ай бұрын
He says no coolant for filming purposes. Maybe that would help? Agreed the neck is a "choke" point. 😂
@rustysena2638
@rustysena2638 4 ай бұрын
CHOKE!! Haha good one!@@user-jg6bd7se8u
@philgross2385
@philgross2385 3 ай бұрын
how do I get one of your shirts?
@brysonpayne9259
@brysonpayne9259 4 ай бұрын
How long until the new Mastercam fundimentals series comes out. Im trying to follow the Titan building blocks series, but they are a few years old, and there have been some changes. Also, does anyone know why when i got to make my edge selection to program my finishing pass, I can't select the edges? Everything is set like it's supposed to be, but I literally just can't select it. Thanks in advance
@BedroomMachinist
@BedroomMachinist 4 ай бұрын
Seems a little backwards to remove all the supporting material before removing all the material at the end of the part.
@flikflak24
@flikflak24 4 ай бұрын
Imagine if someone made mcd inserts for that facemill ohh what a finish that would be
@ivan61726
@ivan61726 4 ай бұрын
Anybody know has DWO and TCPC that machine?
@user-ez2xh8mi7e
@user-ez2xh8mi7e 4 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@liaml5530
@liaml5530 4 ай бұрын
Why not just use a G10 for the Centre of your vices only ever need to pick up on z0
@Kaleana89
@Kaleana89 4 ай бұрын
I just don't understand why you probe x-axis with 123block and don't use single point probe with part at rotated b-axis like you probe y-axis I work at 3 Axis mill and i'm just curious, there is probing limitations with probing like this?
@bf4chode2
@bf4chode2 4 ай бұрын
As a lathe guy and apprentice who has ran a few operations successfully on a 3 axis mill in my apprenticeship, I’m taking a shot in the dark here but maybe it’s because to get to your b axis you have to rotate along your a and c axis? Maybe since there are more moving parts to this type of touch off, it’s just more for piece of mind to touch off on a 123 block. I do reserve the right to be wrong, especially on this lol.
@orimilegov4046
@orimilegov4046 4 ай бұрын
The probing in this video is ridicilous to me... In our shop, we probe at A -90° all the time for second OP's like this. (Hermle and GF mills) We have the cimco cycle probing addon in Mastercam and Heidenhain controls. But it works just fine without cimco probing. You could also set the C-Axis rotation automatically at A -90° so you dont need an indicator. Then X and Y (also A-90°). Either X at C0° with two points, then Y single point (Compensate for part dimension) or X at C0° two points and Y at C90° with two points. Probing in this way is very reliable and also suitable for general jobshop work (300+ Parts)
@CAMER_21
@CAMER_21 4 ай бұрын
should i send you difficult part for video ... so we can make
@CNC-Guru
@CNC-Guru 4 ай бұрын
To me this is not for the 5axis machine... This could be done on 4.5 Axis or even 4 axis itself :)
@andan2293
@andan2293 4 ай бұрын
5 Axis Parts? Or Parts on a 5 axis machine?
@markdavis304
@markdavis304 4 ай бұрын
there's a little 5 axis movement towards the end. This part/ video is just a stepping stone to learning more complex 5 axis. Titan has a completely free 5 axis academy that progresses in difficulty for each part
@the1pigeon
@the1pigeon 4 ай бұрын
Both? That's just a shorter way of saying it
@farhanaali6674
@farhanaali6674 4 ай бұрын
Parts that require 5-axis machining
@globalrezzanate9399
@globalrezzanate9399 4 ай бұрын
Mainly 3 axis Z level roughing and positional work really. Nice, pretty easily programmed and works...just not the most efficient method. Depending on your machine though, this, may be the most rigid method to rough your part. Some machines, especially older machines, are more productive with the rotary axis clamped. Pretty modern machines, with the hyper-cycloidal rotary drives, (or whatever they call them😂) ate claimed to be as rigid when cutting as when clamped.
@slyblood85
@slyblood85 4 ай бұрын
where's the 5axis Syil machine?
@dr.prof.mr.bigevil8532
@dr.prof.mr.bigevil8532 4 ай бұрын
Strategicaly not the best option with that ruffing-order. I wouldve ruffed out the ball form both sides and after that the pyramide.
@dylanreese4576
@dylanreese4576 4 ай бұрын
Why don't yall just program off center of rotation?
@user-lj4xq4hm3k
@user-lj4xq4hm3k 4 ай бұрын
Because centering vises aren't perfect. So when you flip the part for op 2 it may not be perfectly aligned with your wcs anymore. TCPC allows you to just measure the offset and update accordingly.
@dylanreese4576
@dylanreese4576 4 ай бұрын
@@user-lj4xq4hm3k my only fear with that is now the part isn’t exactly where the programmer thinks it is so and machine verification to ensure crashes don’t happen might not be accurate now.
@urban625
@urban625 4 ай бұрын
​@@dylanreese4576I would expand the dimensions of the vice or just create planes to mimic vice location. Just make sure the Z pickup is bang on and should be good.
@urban625
@urban625 4 ай бұрын
​@@dylanreese4576one of the reasons why I prefer FCS lol
@dylanreese4576
@dylanreese4576 4 ай бұрын
@@urban625 we have precision plates with pin holes so the vises located in the machine exactly where the programmer expects them to be. This is also way faster as the operator doesn’t have to indicate the vise at all.
@thomascee
@thomascee 4 ай бұрын
How badly do you wear your tooling by not using coolant for our viewing sake? Thank you, but ouch for your beautiful machine!
@urban625
@urban625 4 ай бұрын
Looks like they blast air...no way these rough paths would make it through that far without gumming up.
@Profabdesigns
@Profabdesigns 4 ай бұрын
Man, what kind of time wasting program is this nonsense? At start tool walks backwards then starts another cut line? I would have run a Hog mill and got that material outta there. Then either a bull nose or a ball mill. One last thing, where did you learn the bad habit of clicking the torque wrench 2-3 times. Every course and on the AMSE tests specifically call out to never click more than 1 x and always unload the tension in a torque wrench. I have been a CNC Machinist 42+ yrs, and DON’T know everything. I do not claim to be an ‘expert’ but I am very good at what I do. And I can run about all types of conventional equipment too.
@MoonSystem1111
@MoonSystem1111 4 ай бұрын
Try to make one of this in a lathe....this is made in a Traub Tns30/42 from 199.....something.....
@MoonSystem1111
@MoonSystem1111 4 ай бұрын
...and whitout any cad/cam software...of course....otherwise you will not be a real man/woman..
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