My First Part: Machining The Toughest Material On SYIL X7

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TITANS of CNC MACHINING

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@paulkraus4799
@paulkraus4799 7 ай бұрын
Nice to see Titan himself back on the machine .
@drafty0183
@drafty0183 7 ай бұрын
But it's Monel k500. Whew! Makes titanium seem easy as anything to machine.
@ipadize
@ipadize 7 ай бұрын
@@drafty0183 im pretty sure his name isnt Monel K500 Gilroy :P
@igaming325
@igaming325 7 ай бұрын
Love it ❤
@jamescrud
@jamescrud 4 ай бұрын
He wasn't "on the machine". He stood there while the camera was rolling.
@AntonHoward-mx9sb
@AntonHoward-mx9sb 7 ай бұрын
I used to manual machine monel when I was 18 as an apprentice. We made high end metrology equipment and there were all sorts of exotic materials used with a lot of Inconel due to its low coefficient of expansion, it helps control the stability of your measurements.
@iDennis95
@iDennis95 7 ай бұрын
I once turned K500 on a Mazak. That stuff feels like tough chewing gum. When you rub your finger over the surfa e after turning, if feels smooth in the direction you turned, but grabs the skin if you go the other way. But it was a nice learning and experience
@CNCMatrix
@CNCMatrix 6 ай бұрын
Same here. It wasn't K500 but it was monel, also done on a Mazak. From what I remember it wasn't fun to cut but it wasn't THAT bad. Worst materials I've ever cut were Chromel and Alumel with the latter being the absolute worst, worse than Hastelloy X actually.
@respectisoaf9390
@respectisoaf9390 7 ай бұрын
I work for G.E. Aerospace and we run inconel for the majority of our parts. Along with another material called rene. These go in jet engines for Boeing and Airbus. Love this industry!
@justin_704
@justin_704 7 ай бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_41
@BrassBashers
@BrassBashers 7 ай бұрын
What I tell folks that blows their minds is machining nickel/inconel parts with ceramic inserts! Heats it up, scoops it out like ice cream. Lava ice cream LOL
@MrSuperboxman
@MrSuperboxman 7 ай бұрын
@@BrassBashersCeramic works great on uninterrupted cuts, but hit one nick or interruption and watch that insert disappear into a million pieces.
@MarcoR34
@MarcoR34 7 ай бұрын
I do tons of heat treated 718, and nemonic. Fun stuff
@jaytotheareokay
@jaytotheareokay 7 ай бұрын
I made my wedding bands out of some 718 on a hand lathe.
@justinchamberlin4195
@justinchamberlin4195 7 ай бұрын
The toughest part of machining Inconel, Hastelloy, and Monel isn't just that the metals start off gummy, it's that they exhibit severe work hardening, particularly during machining - the tool bites into gummy, sticky material which then gets super hard before finally breaking off. 300-series stainless steel does this as well but it's not as gummy to start with and doesn't harden up as much as the nickel-based alloys. Case in point: a foundry I used to work at poured some Hastelloy C-22 castings that required mechanical property testing. We thought it would be okay to machine those test bars in-house just like we would with any carbon steel, alloy steel, or stainless steel, putting them through our Puma just like we would any of those materials. The properties we got didn't quite make sense until we sent test material to an area contract laboratory. Their results were perfectly in line with expectations...because as I later found out, our machining process cranked the hardness up from the 180ish range on the Brinell scale to well over 400, whereas the outside lab using the right speeds/feeds/inserts/coolant kept the hardness down where it ought to be.
@narmale
@narmale 7 ай бұрын
which is worse? nickel based or copper based alloys?
@justinchamberlin4195
@justinchamberlin4195 7 ай бұрын
@@narmale If we take each element's alloys as a whole? Nickel. Not all copper-based alloys are challenging to machine, and indeed brass (copper mixed with zinc) is the gold standard for machinability. Many copper alloys can be tough, but brasses and bronzes can be very forgiving. On the flip side, I can't think of a nickel alloy that is anywhere near that easy to machine...Inconel (Ni-Cr-Fe) is tough to machine, Hastelloy (Ni-Mo-Cr) is tough to machine, Monel (Ni-Cu) is tough to machine, Incoloy (Ni-Fe-Cr) is tough to machine, the wackier superalloys like René/Waspaloy/Nimonic are tough to machine...there's a theme, and that theme is that nickel-based alloys are challenging for most machinists.
7 ай бұрын
IDEA FOR A VIDEO: How about a machining competition between 5 of your top machinist? identical part, same machine, you could give points for, type of setup, speed, finish, tolerance, etc, only 1 stipulation, the part has to be for an actual customer, what do you say? are you up for this challenge? Love to see it!
@useditem_tk
@useditem_tk 7 ай бұрын
They are top-dog. All machinists but working on difference machines. Milling machines, lathe, Swiss Machine, EDM, grinder, metrology guy, inspector…. And not only they are machinists but they are certified instructors at Titan Of CNC Academy as well. Again they are some of finest machinists supervised by the only celebrity machinist Titan Gilroy. ❤😂
@Jessie_Smith
@Jessie_Smith 7 ай бұрын
We talked about doing this but Barry and Trevor knew I would win so now they just go ahead and give me the trophy 🤣🤣
7 ай бұрын
@@Jessie_Smith Yeah, I get it, they both do come off as being a little intimidated by your superior machining abilities, they should at least try though, I know it's a long shot but, you never know, one of them might just pull it off and win.
@Jessie_Smith
@Jessie_Smith 7 ай бұрын
lol I guess I could design a competition that would give them a competitive advantage and then maybe take it easy on them so they have a chance lol.
@Jessie_Smith
@Jessie_Smith 7 ай бұрын
And by the way, I’m screenshotting this and sending it to them
@freds4703
@freds4703 7 ай бұрын
I’m not a machinist but this is like watching Rembrandt describing a masterpiece step by step as he creates it. Cool. Love to watch.
@fvkthsstm8524
@fvkthsstm8524 6 ай бұрын
I was for 5 years but it wasn’t working financially for me working at a restaurant was paying me more
@jmowreader9555
@jmowreader9555 6 ай бұрын
I want to see Titan take a field trip to the Army's Watervliet Arsenal, Watervliet, NY, where all the cannon barrels used by the US and all nations allied with the US are made. That shop makes 35-foot-long barrels for the M109A6 howitzer, and a cannon barrel MUST be laser-straight if you expect to hit anything with the weapon.
5 ай бұрын
That would be cool!
@markdavis304
@markdavis304 7 ай бұрын
Great display of what these SYIL machines are capable of! Super impressed. Looking forward to seeing more projects on these machines!
@mobilePCreviews
@mobilePCreviews 7 ай бұрын
Hey titan, I'vd love to see maybe 5 parts made and cnc'd on this machine checked by cmm to check the repeatibility of the machine. Thanks guys, love the content.
@kgranno
@kgranno 7 ай бұрын
That is coming. Right now we are seeing .0002-.0003
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 7 ай бұрын
I like how Kennametal brings value to your business and in turn you bring value to their business by promoting the quality of their product.
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 7 ай бұрын
@@willyharris4199 I know what a sponsorship is but not all sponsors provide quality.
@joenaldo45
@joenaldo45 7 ай бұрын
Guys main income comes from youtube.....
@bobbyshaftoe45
@bobbyshaftoe45 7 ай бұрын
Monel! The Stainless Steel of the first half of the 20th Century.. found naturally in Canada on the rim of a gigantic meteor crater. Nickle+Copper.. Oil and water... what a fascinating alloy. AND HEAVY
@micahcrewson5374
@micahcrewson5374 7 ай бұрын
In Sudbury?
@zachlynn276
@zachlynn276 7 ай бұрын
I would want to see a print and QC report on tolerance but I’m pretty impressed with the little machine that could
@kgranno
@kgranno 7 ай бұрын
Coming soon, stay tuned
@josephkelly9239
@josephkelly9239 7 ай бұрын
We make Monel in our foundery and I machine the shit on equipment from the 1950s. All petrochem, blue origin and all that like you said. Crazy stuff.
@MattJonesGR9
@MattJonesGR9 7 ай бұрын
We machine inconel to make the stage 9 to 14 compressor blades in the RR AE2100 engines as fitted to the C130J on 30 odd year old fadal cnc mills.
@christophervillalpando1815
@christophervillalpando1815 7 ай бұрын
These machines were so awesome to see run! The power the SYIL has is amazing! Small but Mighty!!!
@barrysetzer
@barrysetzer 7 ай бұрын
Just like you, Chris!
@kmech3rd
@kmech3rd 2 ай бұрын
I hate that stuff. With a passion. I had to make some threaded sockets with 8 linear internal grooves/keyways interrupting a left-hand helix. I swear it took several years off my life.
@jameswik212
@jameswik212 29 күн бұрын
Really nice to see. I love your videos with all info and tech talk, and I love the perfection, and from time to time just do something just for the sake of perfection, because it's cool to get it perfect sometimes, just because you can.
@zagrepcanin82
@zagrepcanin82 5 ай бұрын
this was nice to watch. Im not machinist,I studied for mechanical engineer but i worked as machinist for 6 months in Končar...greetings from Croatia
@SimonPEdwards63
@SimonPEdwards63 7 ай бұрын
It's not just the space industry. We use Monel in the food packaging industry. That cut sounds good, very good at higher feed rate.
@nbowling10trio
@nbowling10trio 7 ай бұрын
Inconel and cobalt chrome are some of the hardest materials I've machined. Tool steel like A2&D2,cpm3v and cpm9v when i was in a die shop. Before and after heat treat. Sometimes the die didn't stamp out correct and i had to remove thirty thou here or there. Proper speeds and feeds are most critical on the hard materials. Tool selection,proper coatings important too. We use mostly SGS carbide. Harvey and micro tool carbides are good. The cheap hogmills off Amazon work pretty good too. For the price they're amazing. Accusize is the name I think. They will surprise you.
@Sara-TOC
@Sara-TOC 7 ай бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this video! The harmonics of the machine sounded great, the tooling held up, the part looks like jewelry. Chef's kiss 👌
@GlassImpressions
@GlassImpressions 7 ай бұрын
The graphics are so awesome. Hats off to your editors!
@ashmeese95
@ashmeese95 3 ай бұрын
Monel K500 is a material we use at my work, I work for Lonestar fasteners Europe (American based, but for the European sector).. We use a good amount of "up there" materials Inconel 625 718 and 725.. Monel and K500.. Astalloy and waspalloy (or how it's spelt it's a rare sight) and tbh even the guy with 30yrs won't touch them if he can get away it.. Im 36 years old and a manual machinist on ward 3db and 7D lathes. We make specialty stuff for oil, petrochemical, gas, hydro power and turbines. It doesn't faze me that much of a material, once you've dialed in the speeds and hand pressure, I won't run it on auto feed on my machine the speeds are too much. I use carbide and carbide tip drills along with boring tools with high end strength tips and go with a steady hand pressure and absolutely drown the sucker in coolant, running 800rpm trying not to soak myself with off spray 😂 Good to see some hardcore material being ran, what you guys got planned next I wonder.. I'll be watching
@HorsepowerMATTers
@HorsepowerMATTers 7 ай бұрын
I was about to pickup a used haas vf2 for my first machine but these have definitely caught my eye.
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 7 ай бұрын
Will customer service be there (in the US) in 10 years though... thats the question...
@markdavis304
@markdavis304 7 ай бұрын
@@peterfitzpatrick7032 with Titan becoming a distributor, SYIL is going to blow up into a big machine tool company!
@funwitharobot
@funwitharobot 7 ай бұрын
Your gonna have way better support, service and spare parts availability if you go with Haas because they have local offices in most major metropolitan areas.
@cskovach
@cskovach 6 ай бұрын
@@funwitharobotthat's true but part of the reason factory support is so good with Haas is because it has to be. They lock down stuff in the control that you don't have access to without paying a tech $250 an hour to come out and fix it for you. Not a knock on Haas but a lot of guys just starting out aren't looking to deal with the cost of having to outsource all of their maintenance activities. If you're a bigger shop and too busy to spend the time doing it yourself then yeah it makes sense to farm that out.
@suffolkmike1
@suffolkmike1 7 ай бұрын
Had to machine K monel several times in the 90s. The shop i worked in was cheap when it came to buying the best tooling that was available then. Needless to say i was glad to see the last of that material
@timfletcher9907
@timfletcher9907 Ай бұрын
I've made some prop shafts out of K500 for unlimited blown alcohol race boats, I have to say pig of a material to machine, hell on the tools, particularly milling the keyways is pretty much a brand new slot drill for every keyway! It's also difficult to source here in Australia, had to import the last lot from the U.K. makes for expensive parts.
@jtb3797
@jtb3797 6 ай бұрын
Only have experience on a band saw cutting monel, 3 inch slugs were a 45 minute cut if you wanted it to cut straight.
@shawnfee9107
@shawnfee9107 7 ай бұрын
I'm interesting in seeing the 5-axis version of the X7 or even the U5 in action
@sheepman6291
@sheepman6291 7 ай бұрын
Me to. 5 axis please!
@kgranno
@kgranno 7 ай бұрын
The first U5 is being shipped next month in. Chicago, we will hopefully have our hands on one mid summer. From what I have seen, at the casting level, it’s gorgeous!
@sheepman6291
@sheepman6291 7 ай бұрын
Please post video!@@kgranno
@Tunkkis
@Tunkkis 7 ай бұрын
Definitely send like a plenty capable machine. Doing something it wasn't meant to, and still coming out like a champ.
@viliusr6974
@viliusr6974 7 ай бұрын
Nice video. BUT. I got all hyped up by Titan's videos, full depth of cut etc etc. On our BT30 machine (other well known brand) I machined a whole run of engineering steel in a period of a month. And surprise surprise, the taper bellowed out, and machine needed a new spindle! It sounded good, it cut well, parts came out good, was using new sharp high performance carbide cutters, plenty of higher concentration coolant etc etc. I was told to go back to manufacturers cutting tables...
@zachbrown7272
@zachbrown7272 7 ай бұрын
These guys do treat machines as almost disposables. It's a decent strategy to succeed though, because it means you can potentially have higher throughput than your competitors.
@LumaLabs
@LumaLabs 7 ай бұрын
Take a look at the tool at 7:39 during the change. That spindle is 100% trashed already. Brown with the fretting infection.
@kevind1865
@kevind1865 7 ай бұрын
@@zachbrown7272 That's because they are for them. They're demo machines on loan, not owned.
@stickmagic23
@stickmagic23 7 ай бұрын
J'ai 20 ans d'usinage a mon compteur et tout ce que je vois dans leur vidéos c'est : une bande de gros nounours casseur de machines , les vitesses de coupes ne sont pas respectées ni adapté à la machine , les porte-à-faux sont monstrueux, la profondeur de passe est juste immense pour la fraise et la machine utilisé, même le maintien du brut est ridicule...heureusement que kennametal donne des valeurs a renseigner dans mastercam . S'ils avaient du programmer a la main en code G et déduire les paramètres de coupe par eux même , ils auraient cassé une autre machine ...
@cskovach
@cskovach 7 ай бұрын
@@LumaLabs a little bit of surface rust on a tool holder probably from sitting around in their shop for a while doesn't mean that the spindle is trashed.
@simonkaltenberg3884
@simonkaltenberg3884 7 ай бұрын
Nice looking machine. Im currently nearly finished with my aprenticeship and when i have the money i would probably buy this machine.
@thomasalison6188
@thomasalison6188 7 ай бұрын
The surface finish is amazing!!
@jonahbrame7874
@jonahbrame7874 7 ай бұрын
You guys gotta get your hands on some 5 flute helical solutions high performance chamfer tools. They are the real deal. 5 flutes top to bottom tipped off or sharp and they tolerance their tip diameters way tighter than the industry standard, so there is very little adjusting needed to do from tool to tool. I know you run Kennametal because of the brand deal, but seriously in this one niche they've got the pants beat off kennametal.
@glennsacona5222
@glennsacona5222 2 ай бұрын
Use to machine it(K monel) for sub parts. We used to joke that it was machining kryptonite
@opendstudio7141
@opendstudio7141 4 ай бұрын
When machining various nickel alloys, it was always an exercise in adaption and disaster prevention.
@bobjimenez4464
@bobjimenez4464 3 ай бұрын
the machine is working pretty hard. I've never heard of SYIL mills. Let's see how it holds up after two years of demanding machining.
@Rimrock300
@Rimrock300 3 ай бұрын
SYIL are entry class machines, at good value for money. Owners will typically work with 'standard' grade materials. This is just a demo put to the extreme, the machines are not made with the intend to regulary work with such tough materials. Companies into such on a regualry basis naturally goes for the high end machines, but its interesting to see the capability of Syil, if one once in a while comes into tough materials.
@paulywoodmovie1888
@paulywoodmovie1888 7 ай бұрын
I noticed that you talk a lot about Aerospace parts. I worked for a company that main material was beryllium and albmet we wore all the necessary safety equipment. But I thought it might be interesting for people to understand the materials used in aerospace.
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 7 ай бұрын
We have an AerospaceAcademy.com It’s a work in progress. Thanks
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 6 ай бұрын
I don't envy you. Be is awful and horrible to machine, and likes to break for little to no reason at all, and without warning, not to mention the cost of the stuff. 😮
@jeffl1356
@jeffl1356 7 ай бұрын
I'm not sure why you would ever use such a long tool holder on that application... seems like a terrible choice for that machine
@worm4254
@worm4254 7 ай бұрын
Bigger tool holder, bigger penis size.
@travisspeedee
@travisspeedee 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for noticing karen.
@ddspixelrush6848
@ddspixelrush6848 7 ай бұрын
I agree but it sounds not to bad tbh
@joemariotti3935
@joemariotti3935 7 ай бұрын
To add clearance for better camera shots...1st time watching a Titan vid I take it??
@baylorbrouwer7848
@baylorbrouwer7848 7 ай бұрын
Because the drills are long tools having an equally long holder for the end mills means you don’t have to adjust coolant lines every tool.
@robertlafnear7034
@robertlafnear7034 5 ай бұрын
I would be just as excited as Titan IF I owned one of these machines... IF I could afford one of these machines...... IF I made and sold parts using this machine and IF I just had my own parking spot here at the complex............ NICE work Titan !👍👍👍
@adamhayes2528
@adamhayes2528 7 ай бұрын
What a machine! Awesome demonstration on what these SYIL machines can do
@lesliebooth2457
@lesliebooth2457 2 ай бұрын
I just love your work
@cskovach
@cskovach 6 ай бұрын
I told Keith to park an X7 next to a new Super Mini mill and see how they compare lol. Would be interesting. Obviously the Haas control is a major pro but inevitably guys that own these machines are going to start finishing the development on the Syntec side and make more of a polished control package. Really excited to see content on the X9.
@ShaunDeMello
@ShaunDeMello 5 ай бұрын
I'm not afraid of that material. C6 casting is probably the hardest material to cut. I've cut titanium that has to replace the insert after every pass. Will say though, mill is much different than lathe. I would run any material fairly easily on a lathe, them it would go to mill, and all the problems would begin. I wasn't running the mill, so I'm sure it was a mix of machine and operator on the mill.
@drubradley8821
@drubradley8821 7 ай бұрын
Can i burrow that finished part... I need to remove the seat belt torx head bolts on my 1988 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe... That is what it feels like trying to remove those nasty things, thst you need a torx bit this size to even phase'em... I bet this stuff EDM's like a dream though!!!
@MrFordtough1981
@MrFordtough1981 7 ай бұрын
Lmao. Been there with my Bronco 2.
@telescopereplicator
@telescopereplicator 7 ай бұрын
Question for Titan: Why don't you make your own frame for your glasses? You already have the materials and machines for it ! ? Wouldn't that be cool ..... ????!!! It could be another nice example of advertising.
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 7 ай бұрын
Definitely a cool idea🤙 Very intricate
@telescopereplicator
@telescopereplicator 7 ай бұрын
Quality frames can be very expensive, especially if it carries a luxury brand name. You can save yourself many hundreds of dollars.
@grahamwilson8843
@grahamwilson8843 7 ай бұрын
​@@TITANSofCNC I would also like to see this
@jrodthegreat1
@jrodthegreat1 7 ай бұрын
Not sure if you know but Monel (NiCu) is relatively soft compared to Inconel. Now K-Monel (NiCuAl) is hard but still not as hard as inconel. It’s used in steam systems because of its tensile strength when exposed to high pressure and high temperature will be quite strong. That’s why they are called Nickel Superalloys. There’s a guy on KZbin who talks about the metallurgy of Nickel Superalloys.
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 7 ай бұрын
Yep, I explained it in the video. Monel has Copper and Inconel has chromium which is harder… so Inconel breaks a chip better. Softer, Gummy Monel is Nasty on tools because it’s softer and abrasive etc
@jrodthegreat1
@jrodthegreat1 7 ай бұрын
@@TITANSofCNC yeah, I can see that. Im an outside machinist for the DoD (navy) we use a lot of those types of alloys. steam systems and high pressure air systems, steel isn’t used as much because although strong WHEN COLD, does not hold up as good as the nickel alloys. It’s actually pretty cool. I see it every day and worse I have to destructively remove fasteners (some 2 inches plus) from flanges or machine flanges of that material. Hy80 or Hy100 is fun too lol it would be interesting if you could get your hands on some Hy100 and try some stuff
@rncbmx2456
@rncbmx2456 7 ай бұрын
Bro i machined some cpm 10v heat treated to 64 rockwell C. Nothing will eat tools like this stuff it's the highest wear resistant tool steel out there. Makes your monel look like butter.
@grappler185
@grappler185 7 ай бұрын
Could you show off the machine's speed cutting 6061 aluminum
@scotttomlinson1057
@scotttomlinson1057 6 ай бұрын
Taking it back to USA one machine at a time! Thanks Titan.
@martinprecisiontools
@martinprecisiontools 7 ай бұрын
Do you think you can produce Stainless Steel parts on this machine? Not a crazy number of parts, we machine parts out of 303 and 304. Depending on the torque wrench adaptor model we are machining, we either do some minor profiling or machine the whole adaptor out of a block.
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 7 ай бұрын
Yes with the proper tools and techniques… I will make some cool parts out of stainless and put another video out.
@danielhertz7266
@danielhertz7266 5 ай бұрын
Duplex 2205 is pretty fun to cut. (Sarcasm)
@paulnorman6061
@paulnorman6061 6 ай бұрын
I never thought much of this stuff. Try Aermet 340(hardened) and come back
@Battle_Beard
@Battle_Beard 6 ай бұрын
I just machined some poppet valves from Monel K500 for SpaceX on my Swiss (I know, it sucked). I’d been under the impression that K500 was more machinable than Inconel 718 which I’m making hex bolts out of now.
@grahamwilson8843
@grahamwilson8843 7 ай бұрын
The last five words hit the hardest. "Increase manufacturing in America: Boom."
@jaytotheareokay
@jaytotheareokay 7 ай бұрын
Machining pay didn't keep up with the other trades. Greed fucked American manufacturing over.
@dfarr8
@dfarr8 7 ай бұрын
Buy a Haas...American Made....American Serviced
@gabemoore8119
@gabemoore8119 7 ай бұрын
Using Chinesium machines... makes sense 🤔
@jimbob5b200
@jimbob5b200 Ай бұрын
After 4yrs out of the Aerospace game im back in a months time woo hoo ! Harvie tools would help so many companies. Bosses and machinist who cut standard stuff waste so much money using cheap tools and therefore longer tool times, dirty work shops kill companies.
@leonschumann2361
@leonschumann2361 7 ай бұрын
4:00 when u look at the numbers that is actually a monster cut
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop 7 ай бұрын
When 0,04 mmpt is a "monster cut", it is definetely a monster material!
@BMRStudio
@BMRStudio 3 ай бұрын
Boommmm😂 God Bless the Titans!
@whatcher8151
@whatcher8151 7 ай бұрын
She was growlin, deep vibration. Load meter dude. Only ever did Inconel. Monel K500 has better corrosion resistance & used for salt water. The heat resistance is better for Aerospace also. By the Way a SYIL IS A GREAT BUY, NEW! WOW. Better have 100 grand for tooling, fixturing, shipping,electrical. Oh how I miss this. I did 17 years CNC and CNC Tool & Die, worked up to Lead foreman over 2 departments.Quit, parents got ill, then cancer etc. I wonder how much that Monel K500 chip bin would be worth.
@daviddent441
@daviddent441 7 ай бұрын
Mill works easy, I make shafts out of the crap, not easy keeping runout under control on long 10 ft. shafts where most every dia. tolerance is +0/-.0005 with a 16 finish. I use a Daewoo Puma 400 CNC
@CharlesBallowe
@CharlesBallowe 7 ай бұрын
If you're looking for an interesting topic to break down, consider breaking down the cost to go from nothing to chips for the X7. You often talk about "starting under $30k" but that's a base machine only. Someone not already in a machine shop is going to need machine, tooling, workholding, phase converter + install, fluids, delivery/rigging, etc...
@kgranno
@kgranno 7 ай бұрын
I agree with you! X7 Syntec control $36,500 Tool setter $1,360 Side-Mount ATC $3,795 Tooling package $2,975
@onge1981
@onge1981 7 ай бұрын
I've been turning some copper nickel (monel 400 I think) Horrible stuff but get the right speeds and feeds and it runs silent
@durangotang1681
@durangotang1681 7 ай бұрын
Been waiting on this video. Wasn’t let down. Hopefully my products take off soon so I can afford one of those. Really looking at the lathes they got too. Could have a pretty decent start up shop for a hundred grand.
@sheepman6291
@sheepman6291 7 ай бұрын
Same.
@Chooie6
@Chooie6 7 ай бұрын
speaking of abrasive material do you guys ever cut carbon fiber? my shop mainly cuts carbon fiber and id be curious if you guys would take any sort of different approach. though too we always struggle to find the tools we want.
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 7 ай бұрын
We have cut a ton and have done videos on different types of composites. Look up composites and G10 on our channel… there are some good videos
@TheDandyMann
@TheDandyMann 7 ай бұрын
The company I work for LMT Onsrud has specialized cutters for composites like carbon fiber. I think you should look them up and speak with the tool lab about the proper tool for the job and the feeds and speeds. I'm currently an apprentice with them right now and I'm having a fantastic time
@Briansanford-fv9ke
@Briansanford-fv9ke 6 ай бұрын
I got a 6"/.25"/1.25". Made a Alaskan kitchen knife in san mai with monell 5000 as the cutting edge
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 Ай бұрын
Monel isnt particularly hard, it is very tough. You want slower speeds and heavy feeds for the rough cut. More coolant the better as the stuff has a phase transition when it gets hot that makes it behave like gummy aluminum with the strength of stainless steel. It will eat your tools for lunch if it isnt kept cold. Did a few pump assembiles out of it a while back. ❤
@davidwellner7318
@davidwellner7318 7 ай бұрын
We used to do inconell 600 claded with steel. I know the pain. Lol, I wrote a macro with a button cutter to substantially increase feeds and reduce run times on 12 foot bars.
@danariusrobinson5215
@danariusrobinson5215 5 ай бұрын
Hard iron hard metals and the skilled Machinist. That machinist is rare to find.
@HapkinsPL
@HapkinsPL 7 ай бұрын
ja frezowałem Hardox extreame, robiłem otwory fi 83 w hardoxie extreme. teraz juz pracowałem ze wszystkimi materiałami nawet ze szkłem
@СейфСергиенко
@СейфСергиенко 7 ай бұрын
U UNBELIEVABLE
@verstappa
@verstappa 5 ай бұрын
Have you heard of Vanadis 4 Extra superclean? I've macnined that material after hardening and it's hardness is 58-64 Hrc, where Monel K500 is 28-40 Rc.
@yoyobah1862
@yoyobah1862 7 ай бұрын
seeing all the chips there, the metal is so compressed the chips expand like spring steel.
@AndJusticeForAll...1985
@AndJusticeForAll...1985 5 ай бұрын
Titan popping them benzos
@robertroach8339
@robertroach8339 4 ай бұрын
Monel is used in valves by the navy also. What about stellite I was told only drill it with a disintegrator
@jeffpatchen3337
@jeffpatchen3337 6 ай бұрын
One day i might get to work in a real machine shop... Definitely want one of them mills.
@travisjarrett2355
@travisjarrett2355 7 ай бұрын
That surface finish came out looking nice!
@MantismanTM
@MantismanTM 7 ай бұрын
But I'm looking at the load bar on the screen when I can and it looks really good all in the green!
@Zminero
@Zminero 7 ай бұрын
I run a repair company that machines monel k500, stellite 6, stellite 21, inconel x-750 for oil refineries daily. All engine lathes and Bridgeport mills. No cnc, would cnc would cool? Hell yeah but we don’t do the same thing every day.
@Ryan_H22
@Ryan_H22 7 ай бұрын
Love watching Titan cut up a piece of material that probably costs well north of a grand for fun!
@scottg8660
@scottg8660 5 ай бұрын
I made the new blowout prevention bolts for GE oil and gas. K500 material. I ate k500 for breakfast 😂
@genesismunoz9982
@genesismunoz9982 4 күн бұрын
HATS OF to you sir.
@schlemihlvonyeet4217
@schlemihlvonyeet4217 6 ай бұрын
When does it make sense to Upgrade the standard 12k rpm BT30 spindle, for a 30k rpm HSK40e spindle (ca.8800$ price difference)? The main materials will be AW7075 and TI6Al4V
@JoakimfromAnka
@JoakimfromAnka 4 ай бұрын
Try machining yttrium. It sparks just from drilling it. 😁⚡🔥
@Vankel83
@Vankel83 7 ай бұрын
I like that you mentioned about listening to the cut. It tells more than any salesman of a cutter. On what's going on in the machine.
@asmira4190
@asmira4190 7 ай бұрын
Not just the sound, you get used to the feel of the vibration pretty quick too. I've machined plenty where the sound isn't quite right but the vibration is perfect
@krypt6679
@krypt6679 6 ай бұрын
Normal conpanied Mill with +surface than Mill some 0,05mm
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 6 ай бұрын
Like trying to machine industrial grade taffy. The part being cut looks like a pump core, if it's made out of this stuff that's gonna be mighty heavy duty. 😮
@carramrod8232
@carramrod8232 7 ай бұрын
Amazing video. Fantastic sales demo. He’s gonna sell some iron
@john-davidcairns1615
@john-davidcairns1615 7 ай бұрын
I would love to see more syile content want to get in the industry
@r1ot1ng247
@r1ot1ng247 7 ай бұрын
Great ViDEO TITAN!
@donniehinske
@donniehinske 7 ай бұрын
It’s crazy to see that Syil RIP apart that metal!!!
@ChrisMcCutcheon-wj2pp
@ChrisMcCutcheon-wj2pp 7 ай бұрын
S 7 was tough, beryllium, 4150 pht, A2, D2, H13, the crap is tuff and does bite back
@Yourmommaluvsme
@Yourmommaluvsme 7 ай бұрын
Pretty freaking awesome! 😎
@Dave_WDM
@Dave_WDM 7 ай бұрын
Why would you want the tool to drop down prior to the tool change? Now you have all the chips and coolant going up into the tool carousel because the door is open since the tool is hanging down. Seems like the 1 second saved isn't worth it. Is there a k bit or setting to change this?
@cskovach
@cskovach 7 ай бұрын
Yes, it's a parameter setting.
@John_Morrison
@John_Morrison 7 ай бұрын
I didn't find monel that bad. Stellite, Tantalum, and 65 plus hardened tool steels are all more challenging in my opinion.
@zc18crx
@zc18crx 7 ай бұрын
I Got to agree, the materials that gave me issues were the hardened steels.
@nilsEKH
@nilsEKH 7 ай бұрын
Machining Wisdom with Titan
@jackflash6377
@jackflash6377 7 ай бұрын
Worked in the oil industry for many years. I've seen many of what we call "Monel collars". 30ft long by 9" diameter with a 3" hole all the way through and fluted on the outside. You know they were hard because they always came out of the hole with very little wear and the area where the tongs bite was never chewed up like it was on normal drill pipe. Wonder how much it costs to machine those big dogs?
@gtrules46
@gtrules46 7 ай бұрын
The hardest material that I've machined is Hastelloy C276, Hastelloy X.
@canyonrunner331
@canyonrunner331 7 ай бұрын
Now do some Haynes 282. I head this stuff is a wild material and has some crazy properties
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 7 ай бұрын
Never did Haynes 282… but we made a ton of parts for SpaceX out of Haynes 188.
@frenchfrysz6695
@frenchfrysz6695 7 ай бұрын
What is more difficult to machine? Stellite 6B or Monel K500?? Im not a machinist, but a Master Micro-Finishing-Deburr Technician in the Aerospace industry. Any parts made of either of those two materials are very challanging to work with at my work center using carbide and abrasives.
@useditem_tk
@useditem_tk 7 ай бұрын
How do u sharpen satellite scissors since it is way tougher than tool steel. +50% cobalt + tungsten etc…. That’s inane
@RyhnoMight
@RyhnoMight 6 күн бұрын
What type of tool and materials of the tools would you use for this? Do tools have a special coating?
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