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Some people like to present themselves as experts when it's clear they're inexperienced, poorly researched, or biased in some way. Today TJ shows you what a bad list of bad Transformers looks like.
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[@shawnkauffman5248]

Not all pretenders were bad. People need to be reminded that without pretenders we never would have gotten bludgeon.

[@Gripen1974]

As kid i loved my Waverider and Submauruder to death and carnivac and Catilla could easy cross over with he-man and master of universe toys. Yes kids do weird things and mix match toys in their paly.

[@xtroguyver]

the pretender bubblebee was a decent update of the character with a cartoon accurate head

[@LitClubMember]

Or Skullgrin, Vroom, Crossblades, Thunderwing, etc.

[@GuzziHeroV50]

I dunno, I'd happily forget all of the Pretenders, Bludgeon included.

[@blue18404]

Skullgrin was great

[@geo-fry6372]

Ah, The Gamer. A website that exists to make clickbait and outrage

[@ToaDaGardeKat]

Like CBR, ScreenRant, BuzzFeed, etc.

[@skybite]

Geek + Gamers who admitted they were fake and did it for the clickbait and outrage during the debate with Forced Adversity and the lead got upset afterwards and went after Forced Adversity.

[@AFnord]

Yeah, The Gamer is just trash. Even for their bread and butter, gaming stuff, it's just really bad, and they seem to churn out poorly researched clickbait.

[@medicodyssey]

Love how he takes stuff seriously buy not in a boring or annoying way. As well as the fact he tackles topics and knows a ton without coming off as a prestigious know it all that a lot of KZbinrs do. TJ and EmGo are my two favorite Transformers KZbinrs it's great

[@i_am_tomatosoup]

Seriously. Thank you TJ for giving us all of this amazing content! This dude has entertained and educated us for over a decade now, and he deserves every bit of recognition for it. It's also been really cool to watch his style evolve and become more streamlined over time. His early stuff was fantastic, but this streak he's been on lately is super inspiring. I get excited every day now to see what new stuff TJ has in store for us!

[@etonymous1632]

Emgo even commented on this channel before lmao

[@konvoi]

Those Mcdonald beast machines figures looks more show accurate in terms of colors than the actual toys.

[@lobotomusprime1443]

Have to admit. I recently discovered TJ and he's fast becoming my go to transformers channel. Love the history lessons and his style.

[@jmautobot]

Yeah me too. I like his unique topics.

[@bleppyboo5969]

Man, I remember being a kid and absolutely loving his stuff. I remember his Top 10 of the 2000s list and found Emgo because of his pick for Cybertron Optimus. So happy to see he's making stuff again.

[@i_am_tomatosoup]

TJ was the first transformers channel I found as a kid. His sense of humor and approach to his content has always been super fun and authentic. It's so awesome to hear that he's getting more exposure now. I hope he keeps bringing in more new fans such as yourself, this is one of the few YT channels I've found where the fanbase feels like a true community.

[@Yoshiedude]

Been my favorite for 7 years now. Always in my top 3 favorite youtubers

[@alexthibodeau979]

TJ was one of my favorite youtubers back in the day and I remember being excited to see top 5 worst transformers of all time list videos when they were premiering. I love seeing what he is doing nowadays

[@BainesMkII]

In several cases, the text was as bad as the selections themselves. The repeated criticism against Scourge was that the author found the character design to be too spooky. The only criticism against Windblade was that her Generations figure may be the "ugliest" of her "mediocre" toys. The Nike criticisms came down them being expensive and not being wearable shoes. Kup's a weird case, because the knock that he looks cheap and plastic-y compared to other G1 toys comes entirely from his dubious truck design, with his robot mode looking pretty good (and being pretty solid).

[@RenjiAbarai777]

This guy making his list: "Man F#$% AirHammer!" The Fandom at Large: "And we took exception to that."

[@DarrenHoang]

I found this list very recently, couldn't help but question so many of their choices, very fitting time for this video to be made.

[@JonCrs10]

Ironically, the G1 vans being so "bad" is part of why I want them properly updated. Not Earthrise or some fabled new Voyager or Evergreen mold update, oh no, I want an update that looks EXACTLY like the original toy, weird windshield face on a big battle sled and all. Because that's a cool look and really might as well be updated as a new Legacy character duo "Armorhide and Swivel" given how little the Sunbow designs look like them anyway.

[@lesterfields5579]

I largely disagree with this list, for many of the same reasons. Also, thanks for what you said about fat shaming, and that big people can be heroes too.

[@ALIEN-DUDE]

Can't really save the world if you get out of breath climbing up the stairs.

[@GuzziHeroV50]

For me that's the only redeeming feature of any of the trash Pretender toys. Finally a TF I could cosplay! :D

[@alfianfahmi5430]

Damn, putting Air Hammer in the list really makes me wish that Air Hammer would come back. Maybe as a Kingdom Airazor remold or smth, just like Terrorsaur 🤔

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

The fuzors were a pretty cool, if albeit very experimental gimmick from Beast Wars, and for what it's worth, I personally thought that even the worst of them (which is most commonly sighted as being Injector, who I still have a weird soft spot for) were cool toys. I remember owning all 10 of them as a kid, and I always thought they were neat simply because they were a mishmash of 2 different animals, which although it was debatably hit or miss was still an interesting idea overall, and Airhammer had one of the cooler designs out of the group (Bantor would be my personal pick for the worst one out of the Maximals).

[@ORLY911]

Air Hammer was my very first transformer, i was very offended seeing this on this sites list rofl

[@kalajel]

I had Topspin as a kid, and my friend had Twin Twist. I really loved those Tansformers, despite their transformation. The gimmick was nice... well, up until it broke...

[@Reaperman4711]

My list would probably overrepresent 'spring-powered gimmick-formers'--those things usually grind my gears once the gimmick takes over.

[@i_am_tomatosoup]

Not to mention how almost all of those figures age poorly, since any spring kept at tension for a long time eventually becomes useless.

[@spinyjustspiny3289]

@@i_am_tomatosoup And if the plastic is weak enough compared to the spring, it just kind of tears itself apart.

[@i_am_tomatosoup]

@@spinyjustspiny3289 Very true, thanks for pointing that out. I've never had it happen to any of my own figures, but I've seen some KZbin clips of older toys doing just what you described. I feel like springs can work for firing missile launchers and things of that sort (so long as you don't store the missile in the launcher for too long), but most of the other spring-loaded gimmicks I've seen are pretty unnecessary and often make figures worse in the long run. Gimmicks on transformers toys can be fun, but they often come at a cost to the figure's overall quality.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

One rule of thumb I have regarding ANY hobby I'm in is not to trust any sort of listicle that is thrown up by sites who really aren't very interested IN the hobby, but getting the click traffic via their articles having targeted keywords in them and showing up at the top of searches. I've learned from that there will be a lot of bias but a lot of misunderstanding of the series from an outsider looking in who might not get the reason for choices that happened and they boil it down to 'lol this looks stupid but all of it is stupid'.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

@TheDragonDAFan The sheer glut of Disney Princess listicles that are either all just stolen from one site to the other or completely wrong about the characters and movies they're in is enough to tell you how much QUALITY is better than QUANTITY.

[@weirdkitty07]

Ironhide and Ratchet were part of the Microchange line and were junk, partly because they were meant to be mech suits for a pilot. They never sold the pilot in the US, so it's literally half a toy!

[@RedRanger2001]

Actually, they were Diaclone...

[@AustynSN]

If you compare Kup to the Tesla Cybertruck, Hasbro was pretty close. (That, or Musk is a fan.)

[@otaking3582]

Transformers Go was awesome! Having a regular Transformer that can also be part of a combiner, one where any of the three pieces could be the head (similar to Gladiator Voltron or Aquarion), gives a ton of playability and reason to collect all the figures! I'm still upset that America never got them!

[@otaking3582]

@@ArcheTelos They look good to me, so idk what you're talking about.

[@evanscott9473]

I LOVE Kup! He was one of my first handful of Transformers. His design might be a little goofy, but as a character? He's among the coolest Autobots of all time!

[@IsiahTomas]

I don't blame people for Kup's design being much for aesthetics, but for me, I used to watch out for real life vehicles that didn't fit the mold of a truck and that piqued my curiosity, especially when the back of the vehicle was being used.

[@petechambers541]

Still a shit toy tho

[@evanscott9473]

What, do you sit down on the floor and play with them like Dark Helmet from Spaceballs? Do you even collect, bro?

[@petechambers541]

@@evanscott9473 haven't collected in years , tho when I watched the film they were sold as TOYS not collectables ...hence a shitty fucking toy

[@evanscott9473]

Maybe. How would you have preferred him to be as a toy...specifically? This was the 80's. Nothing had the articulation that modern interpretations have, but that's what makes them cool, imo. It's what we grew up with.

[@KingofPotatoPeople]

The thing that modern folks completely miss about Pretenders is that back in the 80s they were perfect for Masters of The Universe crossovers with Transformers. Chainclaw and Catilla were perfect with He Man as Battle cat like static figures. So much so I think the whole idea of Pretenders was so kids could do that crossover.

[@windsweeper8002]

Cloudburst was one of my favourite childhood Autobots. He was one of the better articulated G1 figures. I really liked his buddy dynamic with Landmine in the G1 comic. I picked up the third party clip on head for Ironhide years ago and it made him one of my favourite G1 molds.

[@leftygurl]

this is a very watchmojo-type low-effort list, they skimmed a wiki for ideas they heard about in passing and didn’t like, with no critical thought at play. shameful, honestly.

[@OptimusPhillip]

TJ and I both facepalmed at the exact same time at number 2. No joke, I facepalmed just as he did, and I unfacepalmed just to see him unfacepalm.

[@AmberLB93]

I like how McDonald's BM Jetstorm was the most accurate transforming toy ever made of the character.

[@atrendlecalledreese443]

13:28 "Her robot form also has very limited movement, meaning her limbs can't move much." Thanks, article. Without your explanation, I would've had no idea what "limited movement" means.

[@greengald6252]

That mcdonalds tankor is one of my favorite small scale transformers. List disqualified.

[@banobobot]

22:31. I completely agree. Fans bash on Ironhide/Ratchet without knowing why they look like this. Most of the G1 toys were completely removed from their original context, since they were imported from a completely different toyline in Japan. Ironhide/Ratchet were derived from the Diaclone toyline, in which the robots are non-sentient piloted mechas. From that perspective, this mold made sense. It was Hasbro that turned them into something they were not.

[@strikerevimus]

I have to admit, I never really heard of The Gamer until now, and seeing this, it makes me wonder just how careful they are with their content? This list alone is enough to make me want to stay away from such blatant inaccuracy and lack of professionalism. I rather tend to agree with you for what's on the list, mainly a lot of low hanging fruit when you think about it.

[@Turonik]

I always hate lists like this. People that have no idea about the subject, this list in particular is a great example. I didn't care for beast machines but no mentions of animorphs or revenge of the fallen lines?! I'm not an expert on the transformers toy lines but even I would be able to do better.

[@Beedo_Sookcool]

Yeah, that article is just trolly clickbait. It's meant to get you angry so you'll share it around to show other people how DUMB and WRONG and DOODY-HEADED the author is. And then he racks up the clicks and media exposure. Best thing you can do is ignore shit like this and let it fade into obscurity, the joyless trolls just screaming into the wide void of the internet, never to be heard.

[@Racc_Attacc]

I gotta say I really like your channel. Your videos are all very informative and well worded, as well as very well thought out. Keep it up man

[@bluestreak5172]

I can't believe that I've been sleeping on this channel for so long.....this is quality content here!

[@NotMyRealName6]

My rules for a worst Transformers toys list: 1. Mainline toys only. No gimmick lines, no Kre-O, no Built to Rule, and _no fast food toys!_ 2. If the play pattern is your big problem, pick a _single_ representative of the play pattern 3. No toys whose original release wasn't in the Transformers brand 4. No entries based on the your thoughts on the _character,_ only the _toy_

[@mephosto]

kup on that list, i'm gonna have to have words with someone. that grizzled old bastard is one of my childhood treasures.

[@HORRIOR1]

Honestly beast wars Scourge looks pretty cool. As for the G1 Iron Hide toy... I know where it comes from, I know its history, I know when it came out, but still not a fan of it.

[@AwesomeMooseSmile]

A couple of thoughts for this list: Not really sure why those person picked so many fuzors. I get it's unconventional but when I first saw them I thought it was awesome. But if you are going to pick one fuzor, it shouldn't be airhammer, terrogator, or even injector, it should be buzzclaw, because not only is he literally just a mantis with lizard legs so he's barely a fuzor, 95% of the alt mode just comes off to make the most generic robot mode on the planet, not to mention any of the detailing is lost because the entire figure is made of cheap looking clear plastic. I'm not sure how to feel about both injector and beast machines cheetor being on the list considering they're my guilty pleasures in the beast eras, honestly I don't think it's as nearly as bad as everyone says. For beast machines the silhouette is ready accurate, and I think the head looks infinitely cooler than he does on the show. Sure if you don't know that you have to have the robot head tilted a certain way while transforming it, it can be incredibly annoying to transform, but once you learn how to do it, there's nothing really that bad with it outside of some poorly placed clear plastic spots like the hips and waist. I find it kind of annoying that this person picked on the beast machines ones considering they easily have the most complexity and shape out of all of the transformer McDonalds toys, I think armada is easily the worst of the group (also McDonald's toys are actually a buck, but on the same note who cares?) Really surprised that they did not include a single animorph on this list because they're all bad enough to be on here except for any of the alien ones like the ax scorpion or either of the visser threes. I definitely agree that silverbolt is atrocious but I don't think it's unsalvageable. If they made the color scheme better like making it silver with a little bit of purple, made it a lot bigger, add a couple of quality of life changes like having the wings turned into a Cape instead of being an ugly weapon, make the alt mode officially a Gryphon, and change the head from a dumbass snot goblin into a knight mask, it would have been a really cool toy.

[@joshuavis2736]

I mean if you get a happy meal then they are just free. But yea regardless they are meant for tiny children who just want some yummy nuggies and chippies. Idk why I decided to comment this. I agree with everything you said. Anyway, have a good day

[@metroplex7986]

Say what you will of the 2 Jumpstarters, I still love them. I only had the 2 as a kid, but since then I bought 12 more. Battlechargers on the other hand, were actually terrible in robot mode.

[@joshuavis2736]

Yea like they aren’t meant to be the most articulated things ever. They are meant to be gimmicky. And it’s such a cool gimmick

[@SynapticBoomstick]

I had every Fuzor except for Injector, I just couldn't get over how gigantic that figure's head was. I LOVED Airhammer and Terragator, they had two of the best beast/robot designs. Having a, *alligator* alligator snapping turtle in my collection? Dope. Bless Scourge for the mere audacity of its existence, I didn't have this figure but it's so 1990's with all that neon and screaming red and purple, like if Giger was commissioned to make a robot. I forgot all about Hammerstrike. Now that was a toy I envied my friends for right up there with Transmetal 2 Dinobot. Kup? Now we're fighting, that's one of my top favorite characters!

[@maximaldinotrap]

They put G1 Ironhide. A toy that was from Diaclone originally. If the author knew anything about transformers they would know that Diaclone is why Rachet and Ironhide toys in G1 didn't have heads in robot mode.

[@Waspinator1998]

Don' t know what website this is, but it seriously reminds me of those obnoxious CBR lists Chrome used to recommend me. Clearly put together to fulfill a quota by someone who has no passion for or interest in the topic at hand. These kinds of click-fodder, redundant lists are fundamentally flawed and full of enough filler to make animal feed blush. The newest figure on this list is from eight years ago, and there's _somehow_ no Unicron Trilogy representation on a list of "Transformers toys that shouldn't exist." I'm glad someone presented a counter to one of these awful clickbait lists, I hope to see more like this come from your channel.

[@weirdkitty07]

The spring loaded Topspin and Twintwist were awesome! They were early shelf warmers, but they were cheap.Went ofr like 14 bucks back in the day. Had a few just for battles. and no Flywheels and Battletrap? Ha.

[@ejigantor6634]

To bookend the list: I had Cloudburst as a child, and he was awesome. G1 Ironhide wasn't made as a Transformers toy, therefor doesn't fit the pretense of the list.

[@RDPendleton]

"I'm a journalist!": Some peon at the Gamer, randomly clacking away at their keyboard.

[@TomMSTie1138]

This list is like if someone made a Top whatever Worst Transformers and they were all Siege figures with the reason being the battle damage paint aps.

[@mondayadams8166]

"Its like getting mad at a flyer for being designed" Tj, tbh I've been watching you since like high school and I'm so glad your sense of humor hasn't changed ^_^

[@UltravioletNomad]

I sorta get why Ironhide was the way it was, or just why G1 designs were all over the place in general. I think that in most cases, they did a great job integrating the designs of this assemblage of products into one cohesive toy line, and turning them into distinct characters for a tv show... but the man doesn't have a head. Maybe thats more a failure of the tv show, maybe Ironhide should have just had a 2d face projected on the wind screen, maybe he could have been a mech for the human characters to pilot. But a kid buying a toy of a character that clearly has a head it the show only to find that its decapitated, kind of hilarious, kind of more than just a simple animation inaccuracy, still a fun toy, still kind of dumb.

[@alexcurrie4514]

Y'know, I've never been particularly fond of the Pretender line, but the picking this list did was just excessive.

[@Starshine13131]

TJ, I've been waiting for you to cover these.

[@jaysullivan3062]

Your reaction to Ironhide at 1 had me practically dying of laughter! Keep up the great work TJ I've been watching you since I was about 10, I'm 19 now, and you're just a goat. Thanks for the years of dedication and good content.

[@medafan53]

To me some of the worst was those ones from the end of the Prime Beast Hunters toyline where they were just up-scaling the Cyberverse figures. And I do have a reason; since I was a kid I've seen up-scaled KOs of legends sized figures or Mini-Cons in pound shops for years, even bought a few. And here Hasbro were selling pretty much the same thing for a full deluxe or voyager pricepoint. I mean yes, some of the cheapness will be the materials used that'll make them likely to break faster than the ones Hasbro did (although, at least in my experience, the hasbro figures aren't exactly bringing the A game in that department) but part of it is simple; the Legends/Cyberverse figures sell because they're cheap and you can fit a dozen in your pockets so you could get a decent sized battle's worth for prey cheap and you'd have space in your bags where you'd only have room for one or two deluxes. Other than that the designs are rubbish and the transformations overly simplistic; increase the price and make them bigger and you strip away the only real good parts of those molds, particularly because, while not up to the standards of First Edition, the Prime toyline was pretty good up to then.

[@masterfarr8265]

This list basically just shits on Pretenders. There’s way worse figures than pretenders. Like Supreme Cheetor or Titanium GI Joe Megs.

[@mudfishnick9768]

What I don't get is the lack of variety in this list. In a nutshell, it's just a bunch of Pretenders, Fusors, Beast Machines lineup, some G1, and then a handful of "fillers." Furthermore, why was the G1 Ironhide toy singled out and the G1 Rachet excluded when they are more or less the same toy, just recolored? It really gives it away that the author just went to google images, typed "Weird Transformers toys," then made the article from there.

[@javivaki]

When I go to the swap meet on weekends, I see a lot of loose Transformers figures that are deserving to be there. I see like 1-step Changers, Happy Meal toys, those soap bottle like toys, and other general stuff that really would get the interest of collectors. But then I see like various of figures from Cybertron, Generations, and Studio Series for so cheap that make me wonder if people really know the value of them. Like, do someone really believe that a Voyager Vector Prime is worth as much as a single Power Core Combiner leg?? Their perspective on these figures are strange but I really shouldn't be complaining as I'm able to easily score some good figures! ;)

[@Endangeredworlds]

Vector Prime was the GOAT

[@AustynSN]

As a child in the 80s, if your happy meal transformer actually transforms.... DO NOT WHINE. WE GOT "CHARMS" STUPID $#$%ING "CHARMS". I GOT A HOLLOW YELLOW PLASTIC BLOB THAT HAD AN IMPRINT OF BUMBLEBEE ON IT AND I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE EXCITED?!?!? (Also still miffed from a couple decades ago when I saw that kids were getting actual working LCD video games in their happy meals.)

[@CricketDynamo720]

My favorite toys to get were whenever they had Lego sets in the Happy Meals. Also, I really, really wanted that white Fry-bot when I was a kid, but I didn't get it until many years later. The rest of the Happy Meal toys didn't really impress me much.

[@Acidonia150reborn]

UK this year they gave yp with Plastic Toys its just Books and Cardboard Paper craft now.

[@RialVestro]

I will give them credit for one thing... At least the majority of their list are actual Transformers. Or at least they were marketed as Transformers in the case of McDonald's changables, they're essentially knock off Transformers. And it's the only product on the list that is not actually Hasbro or Takara. I have seen other similar lists that have included Voltron, Power Rangers, and whatever random robot toys they could find and insist that they were all Transformers. In some cases they'd include toys that don't even transform which would be fine if they were actually talking about Action Masters but when they're talking about non-transforming robots that were never suppose to transform because they were never part of Transformers in the first place that's just dumb. That said... I don't really like the Pretenders either but I would of lumped them all together into one entry. Same with the shoes. Ironhide, I would put him at the bottom of the list or as an honorable mention but he wouldn't be number 1. I mean yes, it's a terrible figure but it's a terrible figure in hindsight with his depiction in the cartoon. Realizing that the toy actually came first and that the animation model was adapted from that, it's actually not that bad when you realize that. There are figures who were designed AFTER the animation model that look nothing like the animation model that are way worse than Ironhide. At least Ironhide has an excuse for why he looks that way. I still consider him a bad toy but not the number 1 on my list level of bad.

[@Frosted_Moontips]

"Having two heads isn't really a sign of being human" Uh, TJ? You do know conjoined twins are a thing right?

[@prognemesiss]

This could have been a top10, given the beef with mc donalds toys, pretenders, and beast machines.

[@malusignatius]

I mean, they could have picked on the Pretenders as a category (like they did the McDonalds toys), given how much they seem to dislike them as a concept.

[@Noizemaze4]

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE Airhammer is PERFECT !!!!! HOW FKKKING DARE THEY !!!!! XD

[@AlexReynard]

2:12 Oh god, we're barely into this and I'm already raging. WHAT INHUMAN HEARTLESS MONSTER DOESN'T HAVE A SOFT SPOT FOR THE FOOD CHANGEABLES!? Cloudburst - At least it's one of the Pretender inner robots that decently looks like a vehicle. Nike Convoy - Agreed. That towering shoulder kibble is just lazy. Injector - I can understand the hate, but I love the sculpting on the fish head and Tiki mask robot face. AIR HAMMER IS PRECIOUS AND FUN!!! Monstructor - Dunno. Young me certainly would have liked a brightly-colored tiny combiner Wheelie - All the criticisms are valid, but he was one of my first TFs ever so I am fiercely protective of him. And how could you hate that car mode? Terragator - Good beast mode, but yeah, that robot mode is positively anorexic. BM Cheetor - That one is a mess, yeah. And transforming him's a pain due to joints being either scary tight or too floppy. Scourge - I think the overcomplicated look works for him. Terrible robot mode legs though. His worst problem by far is chrome flake. Hammerstrike only deserves to be here because he is one of the most fragile non-GPS toys I've ever owned. So many of his pieces are cracking. Airachnid - yes Pretender Beasts - ALL of them? As in, Carnivac is in there!? [friends hold me back from starting a fistfight] Kup - He's this high up the list!? WHAT!? WHY!? Topspin - He's like the Macarena. People only dislike him because he's so oversaturated. And people like him more than Twin Twist, so WTF? Windblade - Looked great; scary to transform due to flimsiness Savage Noble - I have really tried to like this toy. Nah. He's just an oddity with bad legs. BM Silverbolt - yes BM McDonald's toys - NO. They did their best, they're show-accurate, and that's a MUCH better Nightscream than the Hasbro toy. Ironhide - It is kind of terrible if you want it to be an autonomous robot. As a mech suit, he's fine. As a van he's adorable. ...wait, that means they chose the Mega Beast Machines Cheetor instead of the Supreme!? TRIPLE INFERNO HELL NO!!!

[@ampeater777]

Holy shit, those McDonald's (or burger king, I don't remember which) toys right at the beginning of the video is such a nostalgia hit. I had a few but that Optimus and particularly jetstorm stick out in my mind

[@notgray88]

When G1 Ironhide showed up on the list I could see the burning hatred in TJs eyes.

[@MildraTheMonk671]

No suprise that this article came from TheGamer, the same site that a few days ago was bitching that Sifu is problematic for stupid reasons.

[@blasterblaster1221]

Cant wait for the top 10 transformers that shouldnt be made tj edition....honestly while ive never messed with any g1 pretenders i dont think any of them is bad enough to earn a spot in a top 25 worst toys...concepts maybe but not toys....this entire list really was free food toys, pretenders, g1 oddities, and beast machines....with only a few exceptions....

[@Phoenix2312]

G1 IRONHIDE AT NUMBER 1? Much as I never liked this toy when I was a kid... Just personal preference... THERE IS A REASON HE IS TEH WAY HE IS - Which is why he and I believe it was teh G1 Rachet should NEVER be on a list like this! We as fans bought the toys because of the CARTOON... But the Animators redesigned Rachet and Ironhide so their toys LOOKED NOTING LIKE THE CARTOON! That was NOT the Toys fault, That was the fault of the Cartoon! And honestly, Knowing these days which toyline they came from... I actually ADORE the idea and style! Had they had little Microfigure Pilots - I WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL IN! (Jesus, Even as a kid before I knew the Origins of the line, I always thought having a Microfigure Pilot for Optimus and Thrust would have been so damn cool! I was too young to know in Japan - THIS IS WHAT THEY DID DO!!!) WOW! I used to Subscribe to "The Gamer" KZbin Channel - I unsubbed because of some dodgy dealings they had producing articles - (They used a phot of Ellen Rose and actually tried to Copyright it even though they never asked her if she was happy to use her photo and they had LITERALLY NO OWNERSHIP as it was a Public Image they ripped from Google!!!) - Now I remember why I unsubbed!

[@Gaming_Nerd1993]

I can guess that the entire line from Transformers Armada will be represented via Sideswipe or Hot Shot since those two were notorious for how bad the forced gimmicks were to be honest.

[@SpaceManRD]

I find it very hard to believe that those were the worst fast food toys they could find, when Rally Rhinox is _right there._

[@shaldurprime7154]

the article doesnt even say anything bad about injector, it just explains the large cast of toy characters compared to show characters and defines what a fuzor is

[@mocha5778]

No Armada Sideswipe. The article writer's very uneducated. Great vid, Loved your stuff since 2009!

[@grahf4215]

I love TM2 Scourge. I've always loved it. In a time when I wasn't buying Transformers, it's one that I picked up. I wish every day that Hasbro or a third party does a new version of him. Just, make all of that work better in the process. Savage/Noble is another one I wish would get a new figure. If Hasbro does it then it'd have to be a leader class or so just to accommodate a good transformation and wings. With no gimmick, the chest can be used to house the opposite mode's head and/or other things. The conflicting colors can be recreated from panels that swap around similar to some of those third party magic figures like Lockdown and AOE Galvatron. Some designers out there can do some crazy stuff lately. The wings can still partsform but also still be usable in both modes. I would love a retool of Kingdom Airazor that turns into Air Hammer even if he doesn't have the tail and jaw hands. Could always make them detachable and be used as weapons instead of just making them the arms outright. I just said the other day that even Wheelie needs love. Which he's getting between the DNA figure and the rumored Studio Series 86 figure. I also really like Gekisoumaru, Hishoumaru and Sensuimaru. They have so many flaws but I enjoy them. Kenzan, Jinbu and Ganoh don't quite work as well for me though. Maybe because I like beast formers more than vehicles as they're more interesting sometimes. Optimus is somewhere in the middle. That "dragon" mode just doesn't work for me no matter how much I try to fix it. Actually I like Hishoumaru so much I have four of him. One to combine with Gekisoumaru and Sensuimaru and the other three to combine together into one. I don't have extras of the others to really test it but I'm fairly certain that Hishoumaru's the only one who can combine with himself in a meaningful way. I just pretend that he's a triocon or something. I also have my own fan mode for the bird mode too. I got everyone except for Optimus a while back for around $18-$22 each new back when Toyrus overseas were stocked with them still even years later. I think I've even seen some recent toy hunts with them still on shelves. Optimus was a lucky Ebay listing that was pretty cheap for him comparatively.

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

I had the Milkshake robot from McD's. I made him a Decepticon specialist who had a killer rep but got reformattd into a bad alt mode. I forget what I called him. But he was supposed to be a classic character who got a bad alt mode when hitting Earth.

[@MrAikavari]

I ignore every article from "thegamer". Their video game lists and tips don't even make sense.

[@rodimus580]

I remember I found wheelie in the ground at my schools baseball field after they shut the school down. And was underwhelmed as a kid at the look and transformation. When I saw iron hide I wanted to faint at how unlike the show he looked.

[@incrediblebabylimbs6810]

Continue making great content tj!

[@ryannray31]

I was surprised as well that they put G1 Ironhide in the #1 spot and including McDo happy meal toys is just lazy. Will be looking forward for your version of the worst😊

[@thunderstudent]

I literally facepalmed after seeing Ironhide. Ironhide and Ratchet didn’t have heads, because they were originally meant to be mechs and Hasbro and Takara didn’t want to try to retool them to have proper heads and that is understandable. The engineering for that would be around for decades! If I could go back to the 80’s and give Hasbro and Takara the molds for those 3rd party heads that came out awhile back I would have done so. The proportions would still be weird but at least those two would be spared the undue flack that they get.

[@ryannray31]

@@thunderstudent Well said!!!👍

[@evanscott9473]

I'd like to know where all these weird characters came from. I was out of Transformers around the time of Pretenders. Once Beast Wars came around, "Aight, I'm out."

[@beauxr.benoit1374]

To diss Wheelie, is to diss all Gobots, liking his modes or not. 1)3:03-Cloudburst. 2)6:23-Stranglehold. 3)8:10-Pretender Monsters. 4)10:55-Doubleheader. 5)11:50-Bugly. 6)13:30-Chain Claw. And he sounded off on the Happy Meal toys twice. Not to knit pick, but you did ask.

[@Godzillawolf1]

Great video... But is it weird one of the things I can't help fixating on is they keep using Emgo's thumbnails and screen captures?

[@jinxtheunluckypony]

Doubleheader kinda bugs me. Why doesn’t the minirobot have two heads? Where did his name come from before he got his shell?

[@weirdkitty07]

Why is Kup on there? Sure his blocky mode is a brick, like HotRod was, and his arms are well hidden, but not a bad toy.

[@stivers56]

Retroblasting knew full well that the G1 toys came from other toylines yet he complains that they don't look accurate to the cartoon, This kinda feels like that on #1

[@rickdavis32]

Bowling shoe Optimus,was nice,maybe we can make blaster into a dump truck or preceptor into a ninja turtle.

[@lotty.]

I noticed this list focused on Beast/Pretenders/G1 figures most of which were much older toys that were held back by the engineering of their time.

[@jayneduffy4566]

Expecting actual useful info or accurate lists from these kinds of websites is pretty much impossible.

[@ShiningDestinyKai]

Oh I was ready to throw HANDS when I saw Beast Wars Air Hammer! One of my first transformers figures that I still own (minus his left foot) to this day!

[@androstempest]

I completely agree with you that this person has no clue about BAD transformers. A very repetitive list which honestly left off some of my personal least favourite figures that I own, let alone the ones I thought were so awful I left them in the shop. Beast machines, yes, there were some bloody terrible designs, in fact I think a top ten list of badly executed designs should include bm silverbolt at least. But like you say, in a top ten of all time list ONE beast machines entry is sufficient, just pick the worst one and move onto another line. Same with the pretenders, yes quite a few were disappointing, but give us the best example of that and move on to something else. I disagreed with you though on two points, and I get it these things are subjective, but Wheelie does need to be on a list of lazy designed figures. I mean come on?! It looks NOTHING like the movie character design. It is sooooo lazy. The other point is, a figure that was built around a gimmick only gets a pass if the gimmick worked. Jump starters didn’t work that well. Not poorly enough to be considered awful, but not top tier g1 gimmicks. But you are 100% right, this is clearly a list written by someone who just hated the TF movie designs, Pretenders, Beast Machines and Happy Meal Toys. Well sorry, but even if as a journalist you can justify all those prejudices, that’s four entries on the list max.

[@arachnon4785]

I think the writer of this just wanted optimus and kept getting pretenders

[@zamiyaFlow]

Such is the nature with clickbait farms, they just randomly hoard a bunch of photos and place them in some arbitrary order to give the impression someone "thought up of a list"

[@toddfraser3353]

I fault the G1 cartoon of Ironhide over the toy. It wasn't a great toy for Transformers. But the cartoon pushed him as a major character. To be second on command, by basically demoting Jazz which was a better toy and a cool character.

[@wolfman210]

Nothing really to add here though I will say that list bashing Happy Meal toys for "sucking" compared to real Transformers is weird because they are supposed to make you want the real thing. They're basically free samples.

[@Cdr2002]

I headcanon Doubleheader as an Autobot who’s Pretender she’ll suffered a serious malfunction when it was being bonded to him

[@adamrehorn7401]

Nice work! I agree with almost everything you had to say! I don't mind Airachnid, though. Gets that Vehicon vibe going, and makes a decent helicopter, too. She's solid enough, I'd say. Pretenders suck, although the 'Cons were much better than the 'Bots, in my mind. Kup has more articulation than Hot Rod, so why isn't Hot Rod hated? Kup was great. Topspin was also great. Solid, fun, armed to the teeth. By the way, how does any "Worst TFs" list get away without having Firecons on it? They're not even as fun as the Pretender Beasts! So much head shaking...

[@xXPsyanideXx]

Pretenders were garbage. They weren't pretending to be anything. They were just shells wrapped around a bad robot that barely transforms. They certainly aren't fooling anyone by being a giant human in battle armor. Garbage toy that should never have been made.

[@sabregunner1]

the guy who did this list could have just said "g1 pretenders" , covered all the ones he has issues with AND made the list shorter. This guy is just HATING on stuff for no good reason

[@b10productions24]

Look, I'm not a geewunner (I don't meet the age requirement), but I know the likes of Kup and Ironhide have no right to be on this like of list. Also, if this was such a clickbait article about Transformers that was most likely made to cash-in on the premiere of that Bumblebee movie, where's any of the Animated toys? I don't think anyone would complain about Sentinel Prime, screw him.

[@Undrave]

TJ with the call out! WOOT! Augh... Casuals, amirite?

[@willtws9577]

there's a lot of beast machines dunking on this list, and while i will admit some of the maximals aren't great, and Noble's toy sucks, but that doesn't mean they drag the whole toyline down. if you ask me, the vehicons are able to carry the whole thing without counting figures like battle unicorn, the basic maximals, and magmatron. it's a good line, looking back.

[@joshrobinson2409]

Hey tj I have a question for you, would you consider reviewing mech fans toys astrotrain, I got mine yesterday and I love it so much I'm considering getting the others in the line

[@donovanwilson1086]

I had a problem with worst transformers toy lists where they always picked up kup ,topspin and pretenders

[@LanceTheAutobot]

These type of articles are more to write an article then they are there to have a point and the worst part is these are common ( game journalist cough cough)

[@allenusison3124]

If anyone dares pick on Pretenders, expect many to flame on those looking for someone to mock with. I mean, the Japanese side of the Transformers market capitalized on Pretenders as far back as Masterforce. I mean, they are part of the main cast along with Ginrai and the kids.