TJD - Apparitions Abound Even Outside of Night [MIDI]

[@氵奏]

2:16 2:43 ここの転調で憑坐のサビのスナッピングを入れるの天才的

[@plazzap6499]

i think this theme is an instant classic. ZUN is clearly expirimenting with different chords and instruments, but his usual strong melody writing shines through. I really love the counter melody going on between the lead and piano as well as little things like the guitar trills to mimic vibrato and the tom fills.

[@bot-oy6dl]

この曲に関しては海外フォーラムが訳した英語タイトルが本当にセンスなくてびっくりしちゃった　 「Bugbears appear even when the sun is out」くらい神妙な感じの訳して欲しかったですね

[@KarlZuniga]

Sometimes translations are complicated, I guess... I mainly speak Spanish and I'm not fluent in English, let alone Japanese, so I go by the translations people do. Although I think it would be better if I left the title of the tracks in my videos in their original language, Japanese. I am not sure. Sorry if the translation I used in this video is bad and tasteless

[@bot-oy6dl]

@@KarlZuniga あなたは悪くないよ　一般的に英語圏で使われているこの曲の英訳が気に入らないだけだよ 素晴らしいアレンジメントをありがとう

[@長谷川-w7j]

Gracias por el maravilloso arreglo. Esta vez, el contenido del folleto fue bastante difícil de entender. Me alegra mucho escuchar los arreglos de un músico maravilloso como tú. ¡Continúe haciendo lo mejor que pueda para hacer videos! Soy japonés y uso Google Translate para traducir del japonés al español, por lo que algunas de mis palabras pueden resultar extrañas.

[@KarlZuniga]

@@長谷川-w7j Thank you very much for taking the trouble to translate it into Spanish and for your comment. I really appreciate the gesture and it motivates me to continue with the transcriptions. Don't worry about the translator, I use it too, haha. If it's more comfortable for you, you could write to me in English since the translators work better from Japanese to English I think I remember. Anyway, thank you and I will do my best to continue!

[@rowster__]

My favourite from TJD, your transcripts amazes me

[@KarlZuniga]

Thanks!

[@mr.tremolomeasure9290]

Temón, y enima suena impecable tu cover, tenga mi like buen hombre. ya te quiero ver que vas a hacer con "Tinkerbell of Inequality"

[@KarlZuniga]

Muchas gracias. Antes de transcribir este, intenté un poco con Tinkerbell... Sufriré un poco, pero espero lograr acabarlo,

[@Reimouille9]

Amazing transcription as always! This is my favorite song of this album, I love the use of the piano arpeggio for the chords and you have transcribed them very well!

[@KarlZuniga]

Thank you very much. Everything about this topic is perfect. ZUN did a very good job

[@ExoticBankai]

Very nicely done !

[@KarlZuniga]

Thanks!

[@TouhouMusicFan]

Thank you for transcribing this wonderful track! Great work, it was very precise, this quality at this speed is impressive. Wow, how much beauty, how much tenderness. This track is really touching, it has such a nostalgic feeling, as if you are walking through memories, some melancholy and some happy. I love the feeling of melancholy mixed with satisfaction/fulfillment. I think this feeling suits a lot as a final track reminiscent of Hifuu Club, this should be the standard for them on CDs. ZUN is a king in creating these feelings, in forming this kind of nostalgia, in building such beautiful melodies. It also sounds kind of spiritual, which makes sense, after all, us and phantoms can't really be said to be that different (that's an excerpt from the story, in this track). I was really excited to feel how ZUN incorporated old styles. He particularly incorporated elements from my favorite CDs into the style: GFC, CoSD, TGA, NToJ. It also has elements of RCS. The way ZUN commented on the tone of the CD, I imagined we would have a track like "Merry, the Magician", how sad that didn't happen. The arrangement of "Does the Forbidden Door(...)" disappointed me a little, the others are very good. Do you want a transcription recommendation for an original track, right?! How about Tinkerbell of Inequality?

[@KarlZuniga]

Thank you. I missed transcribing as soon as a track came out. I love how you explain what you feel when listening to music. You are so much more expressive and it's nice to read your own interpretation. I can't help but feel sadness and melancholy when listening to this song, although the chorus sounds "hopeful", the most striking thing is how it changes and transports to the sad melody abruptly. As if there is a void always present; and that happens in all the choruses. Overall, I liked all the tracks. Maybe the Crazy Backup Dancers song doesn't convince me at all (It's my favorite song of all Touhou). I like the one from TH16 much more. There it sounds much more frantic and crazy, as the title indicates, haha. It seems like "Tinkerbell of Inequality" was liked by a lot of people, or at least shocked several. I will try to transcribe it, although it will be a headache, everything related to that topic gives vertigo, haha. Thank you very much for your comment

[@TouhouMusicFan]

@@KarlZuniga Thank you! It's cool that Crazy Backup is your favorite Touhou song. I get it, an arrangement that slows down a frantic and crazy song really tends to be disappointing. "Tinkerbell of Inequality" is certainly shocking. It's funny you say it gives you vestigo, because the first few times I listened to the track it reminded me of your style (well, maybe just 1/4 of the track to be exact). "Morning Comes on Tanabata Hill" also reminded me.

[@cchieffkiefbeff]

@@TouhouMusicFan ZUN really seemed to like slower bpm this cd, given how both the aforementioned CBD and also both Smoking Dragon and Forbidden Door were slowed down, and the rest of the originals are also pretty slow

[@KarlZuniga]

@@TouhouMusicFan I like the way "Tinkerbell of Inequality" is structured and composed, but if it's about transcribing, it's complicated. There are some confusing rhythms that make you dizzy, haha. "Morning Comes on Tanabata Hill" I also love it, maybe I'll transcribe it too if I have the time....

[@PepeDanyee]

¡Impecable transcripción como siempre! El cambio en los instrumentos se nota pero conforme va avanzando la canción dejas de darle importancia porque simplemente es una transcripción genial, espero que puedas traer el resto de tracks del CD ya que es muy bieno, aunque sean solo las canciones originales. Además de que estos no deberían de bajarlos ¿verdad? Me alegra que ZUN este experimentando tanto con el uso de los instrumentos pero sobretodo me agrada que las canciones estén muy bien pulidas, los 8 años de espera valieron totalmente la pena aunque en mi caso es mi primer estreno de un CD.

[@KarlZuniga]

Muchas gracias. Desde luego la espera valió la pena, esos pequeños experimentos de ZUN le da su toque característico a cada álbum que saca. Intentaré transcribir algunos más, aunque no prometo nada y, pues, creo estos vídeos no los pueden bajar (Eso espero) Si sucede, podría hacer un "arreglo" del tema para poder subirlo jsjsjs. Gracias por seguir por acá y comentar, se aprecia bastante

[@kotostrieb]

My favorite from the album

[@Lumix_Corrupt]

This one and okina’s remastered theme are definitely the best

[@elninio99]

Es precioso, donde puedo escuchar el album original? No consigo encontrarlo

[@juliogomez5630]

En la wiki china esta subido

[@corbeauwrite]

Great work on an already great work. After listened to it a LOT of times, I think it is one of the most emotionnal music from ZUN and I have a feeling this one is very unique, because it seems to be partly personnal. This music gives me feelings of loosing someone : there is little hope, courage, suffering and then the end is like a scream. Everythings tells me he lost someone close. The instrument at 0:00 in yellow far bottom (sorry don't know which one), is exactly the same sound of hospital beds metallic wheels. It's a very unatural sound too, that is very mecanic (unmelodic) by its nature, it "should" be not here, but it is. The whole piece starts by it and almost finish by it. It's like the original "problem". The pianos melody plays as the "surface" emotion, that tend to cycle between, short little joy, hope and sadness. The back melody (ZUNpets) plays as the "hidden emotion, sadness that boils more and more to a point of explosion. The last "explosion" is explosing in pain. I think it is the first time we have seen ZUNpets, not as intense demonstration of power, but as intense felt pain. The parts after explosions got long weird notes of piano, it gives a feeling of emotionnal pain, right? At 1:39, there is a little piano sub melody that is joyful and ephemeral during the difficult moment, why? Because I guess you try to have a little smile and good time for the other person, even during the difficult time. It happens a 2nd time at 2.48 but you can barely heard it, because the ZUNpets (strong emotions) are taking all the place. You get the idea. Note that the "wheels" sound is always with the top melody. Meaning? Hospital visits are sad. There is not kicks too, because time is stopping in a way. The first kick leitmotiv and last kick leitmotiv sound like an heartbeat. Everything starts and stops at the exact first and final heart beat. If someone knows enough in composition structure, they should defnitly loook into it, to see if it is used in this context. ( Idk, like broken compo for difficult moments, and something more expected for calmer moments?) You can I am over-interpreting (it's not new in this community^^), but yep, I got theses experiences too, and anyone that got them can relate to them, I have never heard a piece that just hit the nail perfectly like this. This music is an absolute best for me. from what I heard, lot of touhou music seems to chain ZUN to his full potential somehow. My poor guess is : he is less pressured to not do touhou music games, and hifuu is actually perfect for this.

[@KarlZuniga]

I love how people interpret the harmonic structure of the themes from their point of view. Everything is subject to experiences and that makes various ideas and thoughts go hand in hand with the emotional, from the deepest part of oneself. As you mention, hifuu not being subject to the theme of “a game”, ZUN can take creative liberties that I personally also like to hear. I'm bad at interpreting things so usually my analyses are really very vague and simple. What I can say is that from the depths of the theme I felt melancholy and overcoming. All the sections have a “sad” harmonic base, in fact the whole beginning implies that. It is not until the implementation of the rhythm and the Saw (0:56) where the song surprisingly gains strength, giving the feeling of overcoming. The song follows this theme and little details make everything gradually becomes more hopeful: (1:38) the ornaments of the accompanying the melody. (1:51) the piano embellishments in the chords (3:00) and finally the trumpet. Despite all this accumulated energy, the ending closes with the same melancholic part of the beginning. It feels liberating, but sad at the same time. Thank you very much for your comment, I always like to read this kind of interpretations

[@corbeauwrite]

@@KarlZuniga I am a huge fan of Independent Simulacrum too, when you can "hear" both the imagination (ZUNpets) and the keyboard coding work of an indie dev (piano). There is a wild dialogue between them, then a teamwork of both. Both are building up in a very interesting way. They feel very "loosy" or "relaxed" at start to a more etablished form, until it's repetitive (and effective?) Tempo is giving the "fever of artists" and I guess flutes are more the personnal satisfaction. And obviously signature ToES.

[@tropotron]

Va duro

[@cchieffkiefbeff]

Too bad you couldn’t get the drums, piano or synth but at least it still sounds nice, though honestly i wouldve taken you taking maybe two more days to flesh this theme out more but its fine. kinda sad that it seems the sd-90 is slowly fading out with only the zunpet remaining as the sole thing ZUN will never replace, tg3 seems to have been replaced with 4knob popd Lets at least hope ZUN keeps these drums because they’re the best he’s used in a while So would be either another tjd track, th19 theme, or original i assume

[@KarlZuniga]

Honestly, my main goal of the transcriptions is not to make them sound very similar or exactly the same as in the original. Those would be recreations (which I have uploaded a couple of). Rather, I'm just looking to try to identify the notes, the mixing and instrumentation sort of takes a back seat. If I don't know what instruments ZUN used, then I try to improvise with other or similar instruments. Searching for the instruments used is a tedious and time-consuming job, so I prefer to avoid it haha. Another reason why I uploaded it fast is that every time ZUN releases something new in terms of music, I get too much motivation to be able to transcribe quickly and make the video. Unfortunately that motivation doesn't last long though. I hope ZUN doesn't forget about the SD-90, they still use it for melodic instruments so I wouldn't worry about that. I was transcribing the Enoko track, but maybe I'll try transcribing "Tinkerbell of Inequality". Anyway, first it's time to rest a bit and then I'll see what to transcribe first Thank you very much for your comment!

[@cchieffkiefbeff]

@@KarlZuniga Well, I miss when ZUN used to use sd-90 presets for other stuff, because if he only uses it for melodic instruments, then that heavily limits what he would use, like clav, harpsichord, organ, strings (though he did use some in this album) or all the weird stuff in the special set. also what do you think the percussion in tinkerbell of inequality would be. Also given how you used "Apparitions Abound Even Outside of Night" as the translation, you should've made a reference to Rumia in say the instrumentation, given how accuracy in that front isn't your main goal. Also sorry but you've basically become my source of Touhou midi's given how all the other midi makers (williatico, lona, kr palto, etc) haven't posted in a while.

[@KarlZuniga]

@@cchieffkiefbeff The drums of "Tinkerbell" I can hardly hear, but it seems to be Dam Hard and Drumkit 6 (Again). I'd have to listen to it quite a bit to give a verdict. The instrumentation thing, maybe I could have done it for that reference, but for the most part I'd rather not alter the instrumentation as much as possible with a completely different one, haha. I'm glad the MIDIS are helpful, thanks

[@cchieffkiefbeff]

@@KarlZuniga well i more meant the loud clanging drums in the foreground

[@KarlZuniga]

@@cchieffkiefbeff Ah, that FX It's "Metal Bangers 1" from Materials Metal & Ice (Steinberg)

[@moxa-w9v]

Is the main melody piano a 4pop piano?

[@KarlZuniga]

The one I used, yes But in the original it doesn't look like 4pop, the sonority is very different

[@moxa-w9v]

@@KarlZuniga Sorry to be personal, but I would like to know if there is a free vst or sf2 that I can use to imitate zun's songs.

[@KarlZuniga]

@@moxa-w9v I can't think of sf2 other than the typical Soundfont Touhou that's going around the internet. Nor any free vst that is similar.... I sometimes use Keyzone classic for personal stuff, it's a free piano and I personally feel it has decent quality; it doesn't match the sonority of th tracks, but maybe it's useful for you

[@moxa-w9v]

@@KarlZuniga Thanks for your reply. Can you please tell me how to set the vst and how to apply the effects to make the Keyzone classic sound like yours?

[@KarlZuniga]

@@moxa-w9v I recommend using the Yamaha as a preset. And about the settings, I just use the default. Just try to EQ it well near the mid and low frequencies, there is usually a lot of unnecessary noise there that clogs up the sound a bit. The rest is a matter of experimenting what effects you want to add

[@寒九baka]

这么快！

[@KarlZuniga]

It's already a little habit every time ZUN releases something new, haha

[@Incooock]

Mi papá trabaja en Touhou project

[@KarlZuniga]

Soy ese