What Will The 2025 Haslab Transformer Be?

[@Andyjoe522]

As someone who grew up on Cybertron, it would piss me off immensely if a proper update for Cybertron Optimus got locked behind a FOMO crowdfunding campaign. Armada Optimus was done beautifully at Commander class, just give me that.

[@brettwood1351]

It is one of those figures that just is clearly meant for that class.

[@Dualbladedscorpion7737]

Set wise for a haslab cybertron optimus he'd have to come with cybertron leobreaker and cybertron wingsaber, and the set name would have to be age of the primes haslab optimus prime sonic claw mode.

[@TransDrummer1312]

I want them to absolutely nail leobreaker and do Justice to savage claw mode when they do a proper update to Cybertron Optimus. Like straight up dust off that original prototype and just use that. If they did Cybertron Optimus as a Haslab we would never see that.

[@brettwood1351]

@@Dualbladedscorpion7737 Haslab would be the only way we'd ever get a Leobreaker engineered to have a hand. Though the toys at least it was impossible to combine both Liobreaker and Sonic Bomber with Optimus at the same time.

[@Dualbladedscorpion7737]

@brettwood1351 Yeah, but if cybertron optimus prime does come in haslab, hopefully the make the sonic claw mode a real thing.

[@AimeeRose1997]

My best guess is that it won't be RiD Megatron since they've said previously that all HasLab molds are produced with the intention of only ever being used once, so a HasLab RiD Megatron would mean no RiD Galvatron, and I highly doubt Hasbro would ever want to do a new RiD Megatron mold in a way that would keep them from redoing it as Galvatron, so my money is on the next HasLab being a character with no repaint potential.

[@oliverhendrix8176]

Plus Haslab RiD Magnus was a success so I doubt Hasbro is concerned about RiD Megatron failing at retail.

[@nucleonegro9762]

I hope it's not RID 01 Megatron, Amalgamus Prime would be a good retool for the mold

[@oliverhendrix8176]

@@nucleonegro9762 Amalgamus looks like he’ll be his own mold going off of the package art for him.

[@soundwavegamer2321]

Thank you for giving me yet another reason to really hate Haslab Transformers!

[@bromodragone8405]

So, why not just do Devil Gigatron?

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

I would like to see Takara tackle a modern version of rail racer, because it would actually go really well with their Shinkalion toy line, as well as their plarail sets.

[@Dualbladedscorpion7737]

Sounds it be a collab

[@oliverhendrix8176]

5:18 The bigger problem is they failed at retail, none of the current Transformers Haslabs have been based on failures. Railracer is probably going to be dead last for RiD characters to update. 5:57 The next Haslab probably won’t include an Optimus Prime, it wouldn’t make sense to do another Haslab Optimus for the next decade.

[@samurexatlas7373]

13:18 Hmmm What if Gradus and Skygarry are a double Titan? Smaller titans packed together to hit the massive Titan expense. Then they can work with Star Prime and be the same size class. Or I'm just being a fool here on how the sizes work, that's common

[@brettwood1351]

I'm still waiting for Armada Jetfire and Overload. If they haven't done them, I really don't give those two good odds.

[@samurexatlas7373]

@@brettwood1351Jetfire could come out at retail

[@jameszetterman4487]

I'm disappointed that this announcement is coming so soon. They've had a pattern of announcing Haslabs around the time the previous one is ready to ship, but Omega Prime probably isn't shipping until fall. I don't want to commit that much money for another toy while I'm still waiting for the last one.

[@someonenamedblue4893]

Dai Atlas is all I want from Haslab. Star Saber used to be my white whale in terms of who I want Hasbro to make, ever since he finally got the Haslab treatment, Dai Atlas took that spot. Throw in Sonic Bomber and Roadfire and you have a full package.

[@HjFaiz]

I feel Primus makes sense with the current line based on the 13.

[@mattr75]

If Haslab did Animated Omega Supreme, they could add Sari, the Allspark, faceplates to represent Megatron and Starscream controlling him, Ratchet's magnets etc.

[@Puzzledtraveller]

Not going to happen, Hasbro knows what demo has money, the G1ers.

[@strawdeath263]

@@Puzzledtraveller Yet the most successful TF Haslab so far wasn't G1?

[@rudy0037]

I would also back a Haslab Liokaiser immediately. Deathcobra would be the big stretch goal, similar to the Deathsaurus throne. This would also appeal to those who backed Victory Saber and Deathsarus as a way to add to their Victory Collection. Then they would just have to find a way to give us a Road Caesar.

[@samwatson-tayler2805]

I really have to disagree when this idea that every super mode Prime with a combination partner needs to be Haslab? Why would Wing Saber, Leobreaker and Omega Supreme all "die deaths at retail"? When was the last time Hasbro even tried? If they put out Jetfire and Overload, and they bomb, then fine, but they haven't.

[@MunkyDrag0n]

Because hasbro upper management is super risk averse right now and don't wanna try to slot in jetfire and overload.

[@thedesucomplex4365]

If they can invent Bluebolts for Omega Prime, they can include Deathcobra in Liokaiser. I have been waiting for a new Liokaiser and if he were to end up being a Haslab it may become the first one I bite the bullet on.

[@mindwipe8788]

Yes you took the words right out of my mouth Liokaiser is definitely a really good candidate for a Haslab release and having his three-part spike spear and Deathcobra stretch goals fits, another goal should be the beasts that form all of their breastplates.

[@brettwood1351]

No, those need to be at the base goal, as that was the team's gimmicks. It'd be like if Deathsaurus partners were a stretch goal. And the are also the Breastforce's guns.

[@TransDrummer1312]

As someone that went out of her way to get that Takara Legends Dai Atlas set, I agree that it left me thoroughly whelmed. I'd love a redo of it but I don't see it happening any time soon.

[@purplewolfranger22]

I'm calling it now. The Haslab will be Primus. This toyline is age of the primes, we've been getting faithful updates for unicron trilogy figures, and primus was shown in the first moments of transformers one. It's all right there.

[@stormvongola]

I saw someone on Twitter comment that this could be another 2 pack situation where we get Armada Jetfire and Overload to go with commander Optimus. They even pointed out that the stretch goals could be that the first tier gets you both Sparkplug and Cometor and tier 2 would get you the usual flight stand they include.

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

Maybe Primus. Then again, these figures almost never get repaints.

[@SB-ker-my8ot]

You pretty much thought what I thought in regards to having Liokaiser as a Haslab. And an accurate Liokaiser, I think, would be perfect for collectors who want the Decepticons in their collection to outnumber their Autobots, because each component of Liokaiser (the Breastforce, but will likely be named Chestforce) also includes a partner figure that changes from chest plate, to beast, to gun. In total, a complete Liokaiser will include 12 Decepticons, 14 if you include Death Cobra and his partner. That is a LOT of characters to include in one set, likely a record-holder if it happens, and I think it could also be sold out of novelty, “The Transformers Set that gives you the most characters in one purchase” would undoubtedly be a hit to those people who like the novelty of getting a set like that…

[@victoraponte-jh5ke]

9:47 Titans Return was nearly 9 years ago. "So soon" doesn't apply to a toy of a character that's nearly a decade old.

[@superpixelwarrior6893]

I asked Evan once on instagram if rid megatron would be a haslab but he said he’d most likely be able to be done in mainline

[@fatenabu1]

I don't think Omega Prime should've been a HasLab but two commander Class toys instead

[@FalconsTech]

I agree that Liokaiser works best as a Haslab. I also think they may eventually do him as a Haslab. But we just had two Victory Haslabs. And he's yet another Japanese only character. I don't think they're going to go back to Victory anytime soon. (I think when they eventually come back to Victory they'll do Liokaiser and Road Ceaser back to back. Also, Deathcobra can be a "deluxe" version offering where it's a version of the Haslab that costs more. They did that with the Star Wars TVC Cantina.) Based on the "supremely" comment from Hasbro's video, it seems most likely to be Animated Omega Supreme.

[@johnhasheart]

I thought of a lot of these, too. I had another idea I wanted to share, though: Armada Jetfire and Overload. I don't think it's likely, but getting the additional parts for Armada Optimus would be pretty good.

[@MunkyDrag0n]

I would agree, if they provide an option to buy armada optimus all in one convenient package

[@jackharpe3rd233]

Just wanted to say that R.I.D. / Car Robots was the first Transformers series that I watched as a 7-year-old back in the day. And wow, my first introduction to Megatron was scary and insane. Not helping matters was being followed up with Armada on my birthday a year later. So, when I got around to watching G1 a decade later on the Hub, I felt slightly underwhelmed and shouted to myself. *"My gosh Megatron has Evolved so much!"*

[@superomegaprimemk2]

RID was meant to be a filler line until Armada was ready to kick off as they scrapped the Beast Machines sequel, but yeah Megatron has gone through a few things by the time it came out, through the BW and BM versions aren't the G1 Megatron but someone who has taken his name and trying to be him!!

[@jackofallclaws6672]

Here’s another one I just thought of…THUNDERWING!

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

Cybertron/Galaxy Force Primus is our most likely option, really. Stretch goals could include 1) micro-scale versions of the Convoys (Optimus, Override, Scourge, and Evac), 2) alternate heads that allow him to be turned into either Lost Light "Functionist Primus" or Japanese G1 Primus, 3) his sword and shield from his Marvel UK debut, and 4) a retroactive Unicron Trilogy-style version of Rung. Also, no more HasLab Optimii. Still salty over what they did to RID 2001 Optimus and Magnus (I mean, they look good, but their chances of being done at general retail have been shrunk significantly; I'd have just reduced Optimus to a Titanium-style redo and turned Magnus into a Weaponizer compatible with everyone) and Evolution Armada Optimus proved this design team could work wonders with UT Optimus designs with general retail budgets. Evan is still fighting for a better Cybertron Optimus update (and Leobreaker and Wing Saber are solid enough to do as individual figures) and Energon Optimus would work well within the AOTP-onward Titan budget. Just because RID 2001 Optimus sold like hotcakes doesn't mean the other two anime Optimii deserve the same fate.

[@woutergrob8587]

I think they know Cybertron prime would sell well enough as a commander. He can handle a retail release and I'd hope so as haslabs are out of my budget at the moment...

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

Monstructor would possibly be an Abominus retool.

[@KingPikablu]

Gonna throw Optimal Optimus out there. Add-ons can be Prime's spark, Megatron's head to swap for beast machines, and maybe even a small beast machine's primal that fits in the palm to reenact the final battle.

[@brettwood1351]

I feel if any toy was meant to be in Commander, Optimal Optimus is it. I won't rule anything out, but they might also want to aim for that on a Beast Wars anneversery year.

[@TransDrummer1312]

@@brettwood1351would be hard to top the masterpiece ones out there from TransArt and PerfectBeast.

[@Stuffies2022]

I would buy that so fast you have no idea lmao

[@robertdickson9319]

This would work well in the new Titan price point/size range.

[@KyleHorseman]

I would jump on a Haslab Monstructor so fast I’d leave a cartoon puff of dust behind as I ran to get my wallet

[@chip5838]

Honestly I wish they would do a rerun of old haslabs in a few years for people who couldn't effort them at the time and don't wanna pay two or three times more to scalpers

[@Peepin_Clark]

I’m thinking it’s animated Omega Supreme. They said they were “supremely excited” to announce it.

[@Puzzledtraveller]

Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber and Road Fire.

[@franzise3605]

Yeah I've had the same guess for a bit with pretty much the same reasoning behind it, including the stretch goals. Getting all the Breast Animals in would be easier to do through Haslab too.

[@returnedtomonkey8886]

Primus. Gotta be Primus. Fits to well with the age of the primes theme.

[@WarBuilder5426]

One that I feel like would work well for a Haslab that keeps being forgotten is Raiden, for basically the same reasons as Liokaizer. Raiden and Rail Racer are my two big hopes because it would be the best chance we have at getting the trains at modern scales.

[@Windcharger84]

I hope they do Gigatron as a Titan class so they can do his Devil Gigatron form. Hopefully they can make him combine with God Fire Convoy to form there Devil God Fire Convoy combination, that would be sweet.

[@KingKuuga]

They said in the video that they are "Supremely confident" that fans will like this. Supreme doesn't seem like a word you casually throw around without meaning it. I'm thinking Gamer Edition Omega Supreme. It fits in with all the War For Cybertron figures they're doing.

[@schlieffenman957]

I think you're on to something here

[@superomegaprimemk2]

He would likely be a retool of the WFC Omega

[@MunkyDrag0n]

Fascinating. What stretch goals?

[@KingKuuga]

@ War For Cybertron (game) Omega's proportions are a FAR cry from the Siege Omega.

[@schlieffenman957]

I've gotten into Victory over the past 6 months in a big way, getting as many characters as possible to fill out the cast. I just bought 4 components of Iron Factory's Liokaiser, but goodness me if they actually did a Haslab Liokaiser I'm spamming that backing button as quickly as possible. I would just hope the proportions come out right... a giant hand, foot, head, or thigh doesn't exactly seamlessly fit into the individual bot modes.

[@JasonVoorhees2011]

I'd put a pin on Powermaster Optimus/Ginrai getting one in the future. The Masterpiece kinda put a stop to it happening this year, but Star Saber was able to get one years later as a reminder. I think that would be a way to get Godbomber in here for a God Ginrai combination since he's not gonna sell on his own, and a HasLab as opposed to a titan would ensure it's as good as possible.

[@superomegaprimemk2]

Um, there's a MP God bomber coming to pair with MP POMP!!

[@JasonVoorhees2011]

@@superomegaprimemk2 Yeah, for MP. We're talking about how the main line/HasLab would handle Godbomber, and a solo, let's say leader class release just isn't feasible. Pair him with Powermaster Prime though with HasLab, it would sell and be the best possible version of it.

[@superomegaprimemk2]

@JasonVoorhees2011 A titan class where you get the whole thing, PMOP and God Bomber, that would be the ideal mainline for them!!

[@robrice7246]

21:37 Not to mention that 2025 is the year Victory is set in, right?

[@gabrielgray]

I heard the TFC Third Party Liokaiser with its upgrades is a pretty solid representation

[@danhowell3574]

The titan often connects with the current store toy line for synergy.

[@AlbinoRhyno766]

I am really in agreement that it doesn’t make sense for Gigatron, just with haslab being locked out from Devil Gigatron. I was thinking today that they could do a commander class (thinking of Magatron) and easily get a second re-tool in for both versions. I do love that idea of Gigatron being a part of that new price point for Titans though!

[@Inspectornills]

I don't think I would want the Haslab to be Overlord just because of MPG Super Ginrai. I would want Overlord to be an MPG instead just for Super Ginrai to fight against. He does fit into the MPG line, he does "Gattai" from 2 vehicles and he would have to be around the size of MP Jetfire to stand eye to eye with God Ginrai. My bet for Haslab would either be Gigatron or Leokaiser.

[@DJMouthwash]

Solid choices all around. I'm still kinda holding out hope for MPG Rail Racer, but from the sound of it the last set of trainbots wasn't doing so hot either. The fact that Star Convoy as titan for what would come to be called AoP was originally rumored as Energon Prime makes me wonder if there wasn't some cross-pollination between that and HasLab plans. Not sure how much Chonktimus would wow fans off the bat, but Energy Commander by Fanshobby is one of the best figures I've ever picked up and Commander Armada Optimus competes with Naval Commander pretty well price for price, so I'd love to see how the official version looks.

[@Megarover]

I think there are three most likely options for the next one. They could finally do Primus, they could do Energon Optimus Prime with Wing Saber, or they catch us off guard with something weird like Generation Two Defensor.

[@delaneymiller5822]

Liokaiser is probably the no brainer (especially since you hit the nail on the head with the stretch goals). Though I'm placing bets on Rail Racer or Landfill since they are combiners you probably couldn't do on today's retail level. I personally would've like to see Big Powered since I feel like The Powered Masters are Haslab material enough but that's just me.

[@TheJimMcC]

Lio Kaiser? That would be a big “Meh” from me personally. I kinda hope they keep on the train of non-G1 (Japanese or otherwise) options

[@jordanryan4678]

I think Grandus could be a Leader Class toy at retail, bigger than the average since he’s a simple design, you have less parts to make. Sky Garry COULD be a Hasbro Pulse Exclusive Leader Class, not necessarily a HasLab.

[@benjaminwiseman6567]

I think RiD 2001 Megatron is a likely candidate they would excuse because of all its modes, but we'd all call BS on that. The Haslab I would want the most: a giant Magnaboss

[@IsaidQUIETnHERE]

I'd be all in for a Dai Atlas and Overlord. Iron Factory has a good looking Liokaiser in the works.

[@RialVestro]

Honestly I think they HAVE to complete the sets or there's no point in even having them as Haslab in the first place. They did Victory Saber, they did Deathsaurus. That works because it completes the set. They did Unicron they have to do Primus. People have been asking for Primus since Unicron was announced. You gotta complete the set. That means because they did Omega Prime as a Haslab they have to do the Megatron/Galvatron to go with him. And I would think the stretch goals for him would be his throne because he did spend the majority of that series sitting in a chair. His ship scaled appropriately because in the cartoon his ship is shaped like a big floating torso and he did combine with it attaching to one of the arms in his hand mode. And probable the car shell that he wore in that one episode and the O-Parts. I don't think you really need an updated Megatron/Galvatron because the original toy is already so good how do you improve it? It really is just adding the stretch goals so he can get all the accessories he had in the show that would never be made at retail. And Megatron/Galvatron wouldn't bother me as a Haslab the way that Omega Prime does. The only reason I don't like Omega Prime as a Haslab is because it cuts us off from being able to get a more afordable version at retail for a figure who's original toys are prone to self destruct meaning there is no other option other than the Haslab. RID Megatron/Galvatron is not a self destructing figure so there is still a viable option for those who can't afford Haslab as an option. That's really what Haslab is truely meant for, not to just make characters that wouldn't sell at retail, there's no such thing. It's to make EXPENSIVE figures with copious amounts of accessories that only a select audience will even be able to afford. You could absolutly do any of the current Haslabs as retail released and they would sell. They wouldn't have as high of a part count or the same level of paint detail but they're doable in a cheaper budgeted retail line. Just make both an option and stop trying to price us out of a hobby and making us feel bad cause we don't have over $12,000 a year to spend on plastic. I'm lucky if I spend $600 a year. Give me a more afordable option.

[@AviLlaJohWil]

Liokaiser is definitely a must for Haslab. There is one character at the top of my list I really want to see done as a Haslab. I will say before i mention his name he will more then likely do well in retail, but I want a new update for this character to be boardline perfect. And that pick for me is G1 Sixshot. Ill take him as a commander, but he is my top choice for Haslab. Unicron Megatron from Transformers Prime is 2nd, but I dont think that figure will ever happen. Not even 3rd Party companies want to try creating a figure for that design 😢

[@alexmalcolm6309]

If they did do Rail Racer they could do T-AI as a stretch goal. Even just a static figurine would be fine just to have a representation of the character besides the weird ones that exist now.

[@katiepersons6575]

Primus makes sense as a Selects Titan class remold of a potential Titan class Armada Unicron. Both would be better toys to fiddle with than haslab on account of what would surely be a smaller size.

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

I would totally back an Energon Optimus prime day, one, if it were to happen.

[@CuddyFox]

Here is a character that is too obscure of retail, but also known, why not Axalon? He is titan size. It is the Maximal ship in Beast Wars. Also, Monstructor has not been made is because back in the 80s, his parts did not really sell and Hasbro does not want to be embarrass of that to happen again. Takara took a different route, and redone Monstructor into Dinoking, and it sold a lot better.

[@awesomeguy9513]

Liokaiser could be a fun one a 6 bot combiner with a higher budget could make a really good combiner. Like each limb is it’s own mold, they have a custom combiner frame, throw in a few accessories or death cobra for backing tiers and we have a good Haslab. It also works in the fact that haslabs are meant to be 1 and done no repaints and liokaiser is just that, he’s there’s the rescue team but come one it’s a combiner with no arms I doubt we’d ever see that repaint made. Fall of cybertron Bruticus could be one that might work. The gamer edition is kinda wonky at retail so idk how well a combiner in that line would sell especially with a commander in the mix but a Haslab you could engineer a custom combiner frame it and really get those details down at a Haslab budget, backing items is a lil tricky you could do some blast or explosion effects and maybe some game reference pieces, there was a wrecker and g2 repaint at some point but would they repaint a foc Bruticus into that if it was a retail thing I’m leaning no on any repaints being done G2 menasor is having release issues as is

[@brettwood1351]

Him having a frame is honestly a thing that might in some ways hurt him. Liokaiser was highly regarded for having very little kibble for a combiner from that time.

[@Gunktank]

If they did energon optimus/wing saber they'd basically be obligated to make an omega supreme who would probably die at retail, but so would wing saber so it's a lose lose either way. If it's anything energon related at all I will be very happy

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

I would almost expect the battlestars (sans Grandis) as Titans.

[@Martynde]

Beast Wars Magnaboss perhaps? Same size as Menasor and Superion made up of three complicated components.

[@misterpeterman]

The only HasLab I’ve ever backed was the Ghostbusters Two in the Box set, and that’s only because the PKE meter and trap go with my cosplay. That having been said, I would love to back a Monstructor. That was the only G1 combiner I ever had.

[@Convoy_Prime]

The Giant Sphinx

[@Dualbladedscorpion7737]

I kinda wanna see beast wars anime nemesis ship (that one eyed Lovecraftian horror looking spaceship)

[@fatenabu1]

Animated Omega Supreme/Ark would be pretty cool

[@ignika1407]

I would love an Energon Optimus Prime, but I doubt they would make another OP so soon after Fire Convoy. I feel like despite everything, Primus is very likely given the fact that it fits the Age of the Primes line and there is definitely some demands for him. But I would be so on board for Monstructor

[@fatenabu1]

Also making Rail Racer be a working toy train play set :)

[@brettwood1351]

There's one more I'm gonna throw in. Metroplex. Titans at retail got downsized, and I know they could potentially do him and go back to big titans there, but retailers might not want to carry another Metroplex, as I can still find Legacy Cybertron metroplex easily enough. And his Thrilling 30 is very conspicously not getting reissued, but we just got TR Trypticon. The Scamper, Slammer and Sixgun can be rueused and thrown in for a easy stretch goal, and I've seen people suggest putting on extra parts to make a larger autobot city.

[@samurexatlas7373]

Hey TJ Our hint this time is Supreme. How many Supremes we got.

[@brettwood1351]

Let's see, Supreme Beast Machines Cheetor (please no). It was also a size class in the Unicron trilogy, with Unicron, Omega Supreme, Starscream and Primus, plus a few repaints. So that does point to either an Omega Supreme, or one of those.

[@robrice7246]

12:52 And didn't Animated: Wildrider in Botcon's 2011 comic made a remark on the size of his exhaust port?

[@robertdickson9319]

If it's a G1 Haslab - new Fortress Maximus or Metroplex. Otherwise an Animated or Energon Omega Supreme. I think that, based upon the new price point, any newly tooled character that we would have previously considered a Titan - Metroplex, Fort Max & Omega Supreme etc - would be well over $250 at current retail, which would create fan backlash. Let's just cap retail Transformers at the $200 price point and go with $300 ish Transformers as Haslabs. Going forward, if Hasbro wants to make a box set combiner - like LioKaiser - that should fit into the new Titan price range @ under $200. I would love to get Monstructor as a Haslab to do it right, but realistically it would probably be in the

[@MikeySharky]

I hope it would be Animated Lugnut! Make him a Commander or at least a large leader.

[@electricgecko8997]

Deathcobra as stretch goal on Liokaiser!

[@Fuzzy_Barbarian]

I don't think Gigatron is off the table, if only because he matches with Omega Prime. Let's say there is a retail, the fact that there isn't a matching Optimus at retail is going to hurt the sales a lot. Not saying he's definitely gonna be Haslab, but just the idea of being able to repaint him doesn't eliminate that he will be a Haslab. Especially when selling a Commander Class repaint may be pushing it; how much are they _really_ gonna sell?

[@zoltanperei4789]

G1 Thunderwing (shell and inner robot) with the Matrix and Matrix Demon.

[@optimusraven0]

Even if we don't see Grandus and Sky Garry in Haslab, I suspect Takara will produce them at some point. Takara has their new "Toyrise" toyline that has Brave figures in it. They may be able to utilize that to produce Grandus and Sky Garry for transformers, while producing Dagbase and Death Garry for the totrise lineup.

[@wingedswordslayer]

Don't tease me with a new functioning Death Garry and Dagbase.

[@optimusraven0]

​@@wingedswordslayer We really do live in a time where everything is lined up for it to be feasible hah hah. Takara has really been wanting to do a new Grandus, and they have the ability to produce brave toys again. Everything really is in place for such a thing to happen! We just uh, need Takara to get their ball rolling.

[@Fishmonkey01]

A mainline RiD Megs would look awful next to the fully painted and chromed out Omega Prime.

[@albertorodrigomolinasortiz471]

Spanner who can be configured in classic and modern space bridge modes.

[@grayj7441]

Modern Hasbro would jack up the Classic Gigatron

[@JackMcmahon-d5t]

They could the g1 Gun Megatron

[@zullumaster123]

Wild stretch, but if we Liokaiser id expect Death Cobra as a stretch goal, but Lyzack as another?

[@cybersilver5816]

14:07 By that logic, Grandus is at least a smaller Titan like Star Convoy since he is depicted in fiction to be the same size, if not taller. I still don't think he's Haslab worthy, I just want a modern Grandus landships are cool. Also for all my Modulators to make a city with, because that was an underutilized gimmick

[@diegos7337]

DEFINITELY LIO KISER!

[@SidewaysUT]

Definitely betting on Big Powered from Zone, probably without Roadfire

If the pattern holds, a big Japanese original that hasn't gotten much love statside. Overlord?

[@juzoinui4627]

My guess would be Rid Megatron or Lugnut Supreme from animated

[@xtroguyver]

my number one pick is indeed LioKaiser he just fits haslab perfect and yes a stretch goal should be death cobra, heck throw in leozack's sister from the manga Lyzack as one too she can be a nice retool, after that my no 2 is rail racer

[@grayj7441]

Primus

[@Dualbladedscorpion7737]

If habro were to do a haslab energon optimus prime, it would need to be a 3 pack titan set, that includes both optimus prime, wing saber and omega supreme. And hopefully all 3 of those guys combine into one massive bot, As for a haslab cybertron optimus prime set, again would also need to be a 3.pack commander set, that includes both optimus prime, wing saber and leobreaker, and hopefully will combine into optimus prime sonic claw mode

[@Martynde]

Monstructor should just be remolds of the PotP Terrorcons.

[@BigBotBodega]

Hmmm. Well I would love a RID Mega/Gigatron. Maybe the draw would be with a certain amount of backers the option for devil white or OG black. Leokaiser. I love BUT im a Guyhawk and Deathcobra away from a full Legends scale 3rd party Leokaiser. So for me that would kinda be a bummer. With it being the Age of Primes , Primus would kinda make sense. It is I believe the 15th Anniversary of Transformers Prime. Maybe a Prime Predaking could be possible?

[@brettwood1351]

Hasbro has been experimenting with more than on option for Haslabs. While these have been extra pieces, I could see them giving color variants a shot.

[@1002Ecaps]

I think we going get a primus in age of primes. My wish is proper g1 thunderwing.

[@Hurricanelive]

It will be a $300 Big Powered 3 set. They can do a big Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber and Road King in a sexy throwback box with modern art. Maybe toss in a secret super robot combiner mode. That would be sexy. RID megs, Animated Omega Supreme, Grandus, Sky Garry they can do the Star Convoy treatment on them. Liokaiser and Rail Racer need to be sold as online exclusives, I'd even let Takara handle them. Liokaiser is an utter haslab waste of all those bots for repaint and reuse and I'm still salty I won't get a Yellow Splendid Convoy. I'm really tired of Optimuses. The biggest community want is a G1 Metroplex but that can be done at retail for 200 like Omega Supreme, and they can fix that terrible Fort Max and do him over with proper parts, ratchets and articulation. I think ALL these would sell, but it comes down to obscurity is the main focus and what are they going to do to this haslab that makes it stand out. I want Big Powered, with diecast and modernized with all the articulation. Everything else I can see at retail in 2 to 4 years, even Primus in 2026 depending on how high they want the lab to cost by then. Is this one going to hang around 300? I'm thinking it's going to be 350 or 400, especially if you want new molds of a combiner that will never see the light of day again for a 20k-ish moq.

[@youngbutternut5536]

Autobot Supreme Commander Dai Atlas

[@BainesMkII]

Doing another Optimus Prime so soon feels risky. Success risks turning Haslab into the oversized Optimus Prime service. Even if Hasbro manages to restrain itself, the perception alone could sour consumer views. And if an Optimus Haslab somehow fails, how will that shape Hasbro's perception of anything that isn't Optimus/Bumblebee/Megatron/etc.

[@scottduncan5525]

we kind of already have a haslab/commander energon optimus

[@shadow81020]

I want to see them try to do at least road caesar.

[@scottduncan5525]

i want Overlord and Dai atlas in retail, not as a haslab. plus there a rumor they will reissue the Overlord figure with slight retooling

[@Cristoforos_Collects]

Wasn’t Energon Prime leaked or rumored to be the next Titan but that was proven false with Star Convoy so maybe it’s that they really planned Energon Optimus for HasLab??? Idk rumors is rumors and I don’t have all the info so maybe someone out there knows more about where that rumor came from so I don’t put too much stake in it but I guess that’s just me wanting to believe that it be Energon Optimus because I love that design and would love to have a bad ass looking figure with proper articulation and proportions like how he looked in the Dreamwave comics in the 2000s

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

Maybe Optimus could be the commander class figure in that Cybertron themed capsule line. Also, I could see Wing Saber and Leo Breaker being released there as well.

[@oliverhendrix8176]

They haven’t done new mold Commanders for any of the capsules lines. I doubt they’d start now.

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

@ leader class at the smallest.

[@zoltanperei4789]

Who will be the Titan this year?