How to Disable MDS Fuel Management on ALL Dodge/Chrysler/RAM/Jeep Products FREE

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In today’s video I show you how to disable MDS on any dodge, Chrysler, ram, or jeep product. And it’s totally free with no tune needed.
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[@jasonneal]

If I wanted to drive in 4 cylinder mode I would have bought a 4 cylinder. I want all 8 all the time

[@dlproductions9574]

It’s 6 cylinder to 8 cylinder

[@carstoniu]

put it in TOW/HAUL.. lets her use all 8 way easier then having to drive in manual mode all the time. imo this isnt a solution

[@dlproductions9574]

@@carstoniu yeah and that doesn’t work on hemi’s that don’t have a tow mode. I instead got a diablosport tuner and turned off MDS permanently

[@carstoniu]

@@dlproductions9574 i was just referring to the "new design" i believe 2019 up.. the diablosport tuner tho is the best way forsure... using manual mode is worse then having it switch imo 😑

[@nowarchitect]

You hear this @Ram Trucks!?

[@hubertconover7616]

Thank you so much for your help I was getting ready to get rid of my truck it has never driven this great until now

[@kizer-no2kg]

That’s what I’m talking about TK👍👍👍

[@anthonysalloum3678]

THANK YOU FOR THIS INFO! don't want the problems nor power loss up hill randomly

[@jameskyle2238]

when you accelerate, MDS shuts off automatically. You will not have power loss.

[@josephcentola9178]

Sending love support and respect from Boston 💯💖💙

[@Myst3rio_AC]

Love and support!❤

[@Rideshare-Lisa]

Don’t have a manual vehicle but glad to be here!! 👍😁

[@RedNineTeen]

The only reason why I would get a tune to turn off mds is just because of pure laziness.. getting a little tired of manually changing gears every time I turn the truck on

[@bulletcrisis]

I watched a video before, it says before you drive just put the gear limit to 8. But you’re doing it while driving. I’m wondering if they’re both ok to do.

[@MrLaurenceDunn]

Thanks for this I was able to do mine which is a 2005 model as well

[@josephbaker677]

Another lesson: Newer eco engines hate dirty oil. They say oil goes 10,000 Miles? It might? Filters don`t go 10,000 miles. Dirty oil and excessive idling kills DOD / MDS engines!

[@h.d.mech.mortenson2098]

I don’t even do 10,000 km on my oil let alone 10,000 miles and I’m pretty sure that when we had jeeps the maximum the manual says you can go on an oil change was around 13 or 14,000 km if I remember right with synthetic oil. And those would be under ideal driving conditions probably mostly highway, you can buy better filters that are good apparently for up to 20,000 km.

[@randy1ization]

Chrysler recommends pennzoil, which is trash oil... I use mobil 1 or valvoline full synthetic.. ALSO these are big engines, that hold alot of oill. the engines take time to warm up.. let yiour engine get close to normal op temp before you go romping on it..

[@jonh2408]

Not sure where you get the idea that penzoil is trash. Penzoil ultra platinum performs extremely well in testing. Right up there with royal purple and consistently in the top 3.

[@randy1ization]

evidently you have nt torn apart many engines , pennzoil leaves a sticky, yellow. sludgy wax film on the internals. . the oil change sticker always says pennzoil on it.., mobil 1 or valvoline is all I will use.. not the cheap venezuelan tar . not sure if they changed the formula for the ultra platinum but that isnt the common oil.. not the run of the mill oil most use.. @@jonh2408

[@randy1ization]

ive used valvoline or mobil 1 all my life and all of my engines look new inside over 208.000 miles on my old 94 chevy k1500. I use it as a workhorse, pulling boats, horse trailer.,s , bulls, long distances and it runs great and is very clean inside. I have for years ran a bottle of marvel mystery oil thru the gas tank, now and then and before an oil change, I put half a bottle in the oil and run the truck abt 20 minutes then drain it.

[@Ghost-xi6js]

Anytime you shut the vehicle off or shift from Drive to reverse or neutral, you will have to do this again.

[@moobutt]

The Silverados have the same dumb setup. I put mine in M5 unless I’m hitting the highway.

[@gman21266]

Easier solution: Anytime the ECO light comes on --- just hit the gas for a sec.

[@jplperformance9073]

Cool video thank you

[@semlohde1]

I have a 2015 1500 and never have any E light, always just wonder. Someone else said town haul mode works too. I've used the manual or tow and just assume they're working.

[@larryconner4062]

In my 2013 Ram, I simply turn on the Tow/Haul mode. That turns off the MDS as well.

[@jameskyle2238]

tow haul mode = burnout mode haha

[@billsmith7693]

This process has to be done manually every time upon startup or park to drive shifting in my 2017 ram. Would suggest deleting mds with tune.

[@TikkacanKut2]

I know it’s been awhile since this video.. but all I did was crank my truck up, unplug the egr valve sensor. Waited till the check engine light came on and reconnected the egr sensor. No unhook battery left it connected and it’s stay in 8 cylinder no mds kick in.

[@bw8632]

Have a 23 Challenger ScatPack. Only have 650 miles on it. Not sure yet, but seems like keeping it in sports mode keeps all 8 going at one time.

[@ashtontaylor7172]

Yea it’s the same difference but you can drive using paddles without being in sport mode.

[@codybrown4855]

I got a 2014 ram, 5.7, i got a 6sp transmission, if i set the gear box to 6th gear with the manual option, will it still shift thru the gears? And not have any issues or problems with the motor or transmission

[@vancebooker459]

Thanks for the video!

[@dustydusty8660]

Thank you sir

[@garysgarage.2841]

Might just be the newer vehicles or it might just be the durangos but in my 2022 RT I got a button at his press and I turn it off and it has a memory so if I shut the vehicle off and start up again it still turned off

[@Dingbobber]

Why don’t they just have a button for me to choose when I want fuel savings or power. I fucking hate when car companies think a computer is gonna know better than me. Might as well remove the gas pedal too 🤦‍♂️

[@TKsGarage]

I know right

[@bradg2069]

It’s not car company’s, it’s the government. Chrysler pays massive penalties to our communist dictators, while they give Tesla millions of our tax dollars every year. We all will be driving Samsung washing machines in 20 years because half the country votes for democrats.

[@ShaneVonD71]

The only thing that sucks is the every time you put in park you have do it again. A tune will actually turn it off. It is a great compromise to be able to disable it though and I do without even thinking about at this point.

[@jasongiesy4630]

soooo if you have manual slap shift but don't have the gear limit switch or paddle switch that won't work

[@thehellraisinhellraiser3251]

Nice tip bro! 👍💯👍 But the way I drive the MDS rarely kicks in anyway! 🤣🤣🤣

[@moparchallenger749]

I Hear That 👍😎

[@timbrown8038]

Just had my 2012 Dodge Ram Express 5.7 rebuilt due to collapsed lifter on # 5 and a chewed up camshaft with 96k. Had the MDS deleted while it was being repaired. Run smooth with no hint of a tick. Gas mileage about the same with full time 8. Just had transmission serviced and new fuel filter pump installed. Hopefully good to go for many trouble free miles. I would not buy another truck that has this catastrophic engine design.

[@tracydavemarkwell4714]

So if there’s no manual shift like that it’s just a 2007 dodge ram 5.7 hemi and I don’t see a shifting like that is there something else I can do I have tow haul in overdrive off that’s the little button on the end of the shift lever I don’t see anything else is there anything else I can do

[@johnweisinger7390]

On the 2011 Ram it only works if you drop it down to 5th gear

[@vernonsmall1729]

Free game from big bro 😎

[@TristynRusselo]

rams only go back to 2009 with manual shifting. my 2008 has 4 speed auto. no manual selector.

[@cucocuco4474]

Hello, I have a 2008 5.7 ram, I deleted the mds system in the engine, I would like to know if I have to work with the programming

[@MrRtHemi]

Well you can also just factory disable with a remapping the system.

[@Erick10zz]

this doesnt work on a 21 charger, i have to actually move the stick shift to manual mode, but when done with the paddle shifters its stays there for a minute then goes back to automatic

[@robertschaffer8027]

Thx from germany

[@Leo-zf7ne]

Who knows of a good tuner for 2020 ram 1500 5.7 so that I can demolish eco from existence... want to get a 44series flowmaster but heard it will sound funny w eco mode switching on an off

[@randy1ization]

does this work on an 06 chrysler 300c with the 5.7 hemi?

[@cebayne]

Still liking your Scat Pack? Idk why, but I am seriously considering ditching my 19 2500 for a Charger Scat Pack, that power looks like so much fun 🤩 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@rrlandservice9017]

Until you gotta go to lowes lol

[@aeroliteflyer]

This doesn't work with a 2022 Rebel 1500 G/T package which comes with the 5.7 eTorque. There is no gear limit, only a sport mode. The truck limits the gear you can select up or down based off current speed.

[@h.d.mech.mortenson2098]

Yeah same here. I have the GT sport with the e torque motor. Guess I’ll have to buy a tuner or else do all the shifting manually.

[@user-bs2vs6hn3c]

Didn’t work for me in my 2021 ram v6 tradesman. Eco still auto activated with manual mode active

[@DIY101]

Thank you says my RAM 2012!

[@jameskyle2238]

Gear Limit is NOT manual shifting for a RAM. All that does is limit the highest gear the truck will go to. example, driving in snow, you don't need 8th gear. set it at 5 and 5th gear is the highest gear the truck will shift to. Only RAM truck with paddle shifters have " manual mode"

[@mostills4017]

I found the mds/vvt harness and de-pinned the mds solenoids--don't have remote start and have a light on but guess what..no need to shift manually (which isn't recommended to use 24/7 on the 65rfe)

[@crazybob1954mo]

Interesting... I just bought a 2020 Jeep Cherokee SRT a few weeks ago. I was wondering if I could just disconnect the wire from the plug going to the MDS solenoids???? Is that what you did?? How has it worked out for you?? Any hints or tips?? Thanks In Advance!!

[@brianrinehart8202]

But does MDS come back on when you go back into automatic mode?

[@THEDESTROYER711]

I’ve been doing it occasionally on my 2016 Ram 1500 hemi. Need to do it more tho I never noticed any fuel economy difference tho

[@RedNineTeen]

Isn’t that crazy? That mds doesn’t even really save fuel

[@THEDESTROYER711]

@@RedNineTeen it’s just some more epa regulation bullshit. Designed for their fuel economy tests but not for real world driving.

[@RedNineTeen]

@@THEDESTROYER711 it’s complete shite.. I never liked the idea of mds to begin with and I just recently bought my first ram truck and saw that eco light up and I’m just thinking to myself like I bought a damn v8 hemi for a reason and saving gas isn’t one of them.

[@THEDESTROYER711]

@@RedNineTeen exactly lol it ain’t a Prius. And since I got an exhaust done to it my foots in it even more lol. I have the loudest muffler you can get from Carven pretty easy install and sounds great a little drone at highway speeds but music drowns it out if need be.

[@jizzyjake6783]

You might get an extra mile or two depending on your driving but it's nothing crazy unless you're just creeping down the road but you can do that with 8 cylinders activated too

[@ishakzaghari]

i have a 2018 GC SRT , i put it in sport and it disables it, obviously the gas mileage is much worse, but i didnt buy this car for mpgs lol

[@dragracer4407]

I have a 2019 Challenger R/T and just have it in sport mode and the MDS is off

[@davidzambrano9126]

Man you need to help me do this on my 5.0 f150

[@cliftonsargent1572]

How bout a 2006 300c?

[@fluffy1346]

Tk's garage what's uppp hope all is we'll

[@wesleymonroejr4698]

I have an 2018 392 how do you put eco mode back on after you do this?

[@TKsGarage]

Just get out of manual mode

[@scottbaldwin515]

My 2019 Ram Eco mode can be disabled in the settings on the touch screen. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@YAHAWAHWATCH]

Could you do that with 2007 Aspen with no manual mode ?

[@timjacobs9860]

the tow mode will disactivate the mds mode on aspen/ durango hemi

[@DreamChasinGio]

TK🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾

[@TKsGarage]

Hey Gio

[@generalkaosthedestroyer3452]

Any recommendations for dealing with the MDS on a 08 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi? Thanks,

[@austynscruggs6867]

15 and newer have it

[@mr.anderson910]

Intentionally cause a check engine light, heard that will disable mds until the light is cleared

[@kevinjones9013]

I know on a 2013 Charger R/T that is not the case.

[@rufioreed3953]

Does it change fuel mileage?

[@350Zquicksilver]

Interesting... I THINK this also applies to much older Chrysler branded products with the HEMI and NAG1 autostick transmission. I get 14mpg in stop and go traffic, auto mode only, and MDS active. On a flat highway at 55mph, I can get up to 25mpg in my Magnum. That's a huge difference and I attribute it to MDS. No way am I getting 25mpg with all 8 cylinders active. I only wish MDS was trouble free. I've heard too many rumors of MDS being bad for the motor long term. So I'm torn, MPG or longevity... :(

[@delpower1348]

I’ll give you my experience with MDS. I had a 2014 Ram 1500 with that MDS 5.7 Hemi engine and after 160,000 miles I get a check engine light. I get trouble code P0303, cylinder 3 misfire. So I do some research and the potential issues could have been a bad coil, faulty spark plugs, even faulty fuel injectors. So I replace ALL of it and still that dreaded P0303 code kept popping up. I take it to the dealership to get it diagnosed and they said that the lifters, camshaft and rocker arms need to be replaced. They wanted to charge me $7,090 to perform the work! Needless to say I did the work myself and sold it. There’s my two cents on the MDS engine.

[@pastexpiration2160]

Longevity every time

[@timbrown8038]

Just

[@carltoncollins3226]

While in "manual mode" , do I have to use those (gear+, -)buttons to shift? It seemed like you were still driving it as an automatic.

[@roberttoews2775]

Manual mode only limits the transmission to shift as high as the highest gear selected. Lower gears are unaffected. Shifts automatically as usual.

[@K-Hab]

@@roberttoews2775 good to know, thanks

[@patricksmith9891]

Does this work on the 2006 Jeep Commander with the 5.7? My MDS system is failing and is continuously shutting down cylinders in and out. I have the 4 speed. I can manually shift between 1-4. I've been putting in 4th and just driving and it feels like its working.

[@MrLaurenceDunn]

I had same problem as you on a 2005 WK, and do the same as you, I did get all my MDS solenoids replaced with Mopar OEM ones and that has fixed MDS for now its working fine

[@HawK201]

so i am lookin at a dodge with that system and i gotta question. so you put it in manual, put it in whatever gear you want and keep it in manual but it will down shift and upshift for you still?

[@Ghost-xi6js]

It’s actually not a manual shift…it’s a gear limiter…exactly what it says on the controls. Manual shift would allow you to go up and down through the gears and hold a certain gear. The gear limiter only allows you limit what highest gear you want.

[@HawK201]

@@Ghost-xi6js thank you

[@HawK201]

@mike light thank you

[@williamgonzalez1939]

Do you have to do it all the time or with just doing it once it takes care of it

[@berardoferrari]

all the time.

[@Rojapo]

How do you turn it back on

[@budlanctot3060]

I have an 09 charger pursuit. It doesn't have the fancy ass dash cluster or a menu to scroll thru. It has a column shift w/auto stick. How does your "hack" work for me?

[@TKsGarage]

Yours doesn’t have mds

[@jonfoss3437]

Anybody make a kit too keep it in manual mode so you donf have to do that everytime you drive it

[@k0d0kan]

I read eco mode and MDS are separate systems and you can disable MDS with affecting eco mode..

[@jizzyjake6783]

Nah the MDS is the only eco feature on the 5.7

[@jaredgonzalez8421]

@@jizzyjake6783 how do I disable it

[@jizzyjake6783]

@@jaredgonzalez8421 Use your gear limit switch. Just set it to 8 so you are still utilizing all 8 gears and it will shift like normal but if that feature is engaged at all it will never go into eco mode. You have to do it every time you start it up or whenever you go in out of drive which kinda sucks but it literally takes a second. That's for newer Ram trucks at least that's the only thing I own with the 5.7L.

[@jaredgonzalez8421]

@@jizzyjake6783 I have a 19 charger rt I don’t have gear limit

[@jizzyjake6783]

@@jaredgonzalez8421 sport mode should do it. I keep my Scatpack in track and it never comes on either.

[@jaysenweir7710]

I went with bigger tires. Now I don't have to remember to take it out of eco. Lol

[@MTimmerhans]

Do you have to do this every time you get into the truck, and does this deactivate the etorque system?

[@TKsGarage]

Doesnt work on hybrids

[@h.d.mech.mortenson2098]

I’m going to try this on my ‘22 Ram 1500 GT and let you know if it works. Thanks.

[@h.d.mech.mortenson2098]

So I tried this on my drive home. First of all while the truck is running it will not let you shift pass second gear in manual mode. Once you get going, you can shift up to eighth gear but it will just stay in that gear. The only way to keep it out of Eco mode on my ram GT is to manually shift at the whole time. The weird thing is that it will downshift from eights all the way down to first but it will not upshift. Also my truck has a consol shifter with paddle shifters as well.

[@h.d.mech.mortenson2098]

It doesn’t work with my GT because of the e torque motor it has which is driven by the engine. I also talked to a Dodge service advisor and he told me most of the issues are from people not changing their oil on time.

[@h.d.mech.mortenson2098]

Update, you can disable it if you put it in tow hall mode. If you check out the KZbin channel Reignited, the gentleman is a factory trained Chrysler/Dodge technician, and says there is no reason to disable the MDS as it is not the reason for camshaft and lifter failure. His reason is lack of maintenance and low oil pressure at idle. He has a lot of experience with these engines and he gives some great examples and shows you what all the components actually look like. It’s worth checking out if anything I would turn off the stop and start, this is probably worse for your engine than anything else as you are starting it up after the oil has drained back into the oil pan. You also using the auxiliary battery a lot more and apparently is worth 2500 bucks! If you have the e torque hemi option.

[@dodge-io7gd]

unfortunetly you have to do this everytime you move the shifter to park or start the vehicle.

[@TKsGarage]

True. But it's free

[@brenenmay3222]

Lol, get whatcha pay for!

[@jerryhess5564]

I do not have an Eco light 2020 1500

[@Rojapo]

How to turn it back on

[@AzzKicKeR52]

No MDS is great, but I don't care to manually shift the automatic all the time.

[@Mascotal]

Tow Haul mode will also disable MDS.

[@LINA2COOL4YOU]

Not on 4th gens

[@nikvret9544]

Which models have MDS? I am interesting to buy a challenger for daily usage and consuming so much gas daily is a minus .

[@TKsGarage]

All except the manual

[@cljay25]

I have a '21 R/T and it has MDS. It is absolutely annoying when cruising because it can't hold cruise control in eco mode.

[@donaldhampton5854]

Never let vehicle idle especially a late model gas .

[@Multi1Joshua]

Just turn on tow haul mode eliminates the mds

[@billygirard8294]

I would like a way to reset my tpms on my ram 2500 80 lb in tires is to much with out load I run 45 to 50 all the way around have to clear it evertime a crank it to go

[@shinymud7]

How about the 2006 ram 1500? Is this possible? Ty

[@cjon323]

2006 ram did not have 4 cylinder mode 👍🏻

[@806TX]

If you stomp will it shift pass selected gear??

[@ehimenikheloa2420]

Great question

[@deesnutz5576]

I do this just because im scared of that hemi tick.... and doing everything i can to prevent it... 19' 1500. 12,500miles

[@cameron.s.9368]

Supposedly in 2016 the lifters were upgraded so it's "not" a problem anymore. At least much more rare

[@LegendDub9]

So it doesn’t affect the car if you have it in 8th gear all the time ?

[@jizzyjake6783]

It doesn't stay in that gear. It goes through the gears like normal. A gear limiter just won't allow it to go past whatever gear it is set to. It's mainly used if say you were pulling a trailer and wanted it to stay in a lower gear to utilize more of your RPM range.

[@christopherpurvis2075]

🤣🤣🤣

[@XxSoGRAMBOxX]

Is there a way to show the speed limit in the cluster?

[@kjsmolik]

Yes. Juat change the screen

[@XxSoGRAMBOxX]

@kjsmolik it shows the speed I'm going but the the road speed limit

[@thatdude6045]

So does this affect the top speed of the truck?

[@MrGunner945]

Not sure how it works on the newer models but on a 2009 model I had, doing this would prevent the truck from shifting into overdrive when at highway speeds.

[@colebradshaw3734]

I have a 2007 ram 1500 with a 5.7 hemi and the mds is causing it not to run right is there any way to disable it on here

[@TKsGarage]

Only if it has manual shifting

[@TKsGarage]

Or you would need a custom tune

[@colebradshaw3734]

@@TKsGarage does tow haul not disable it

[@christopherpurvis2075]

That dnt wrk! Still goes into 4 mode

[@esserdennis03]

does this work on a 2005 chrysler 300c 5.7?

[@TKsGarage]

Should

[@alexloeragallos]

Hi i need help.i have a 2011 ram crew cab 1500 hemi engine how can i do that

[@TKsGarage]

Not sure it can be done on those

[@alexloeragallos]

@@TKsGarage okay

[@neilmurphy845]

Do manual car's have that

[@TKsGarage]

Nope

[@dougwilliams44]

All the ECO does is indicate when your vehicle is getting best gas mileage

[@king3mike3]

💪🏽💪🏽

[@TKsGarage]

Thanks!

[@mannyaraujo1]

Just a diablo tune.. 91 or 93..

[@MrSamPhoenix]

So just stay in manual mode

[@michaelchandler8468]

this is useful but if you own a charger/challenger if you put it into "sport mode" it will automatically disable 4 cylinder mode.

[@jellyjam777]

Same have sport mode on my Grand Cherokee 5.7

[@victisomega4248]

This does not work on my 2022 R/T Scatpack. Sport mode or Track mode will still allow MDS... I think it's peak comedy that someone who buys a car with a 6.4L V8 would care about fuel economy... but here we are. Side note, I know it's actually about emissions regulations but it's still funny!

[@cljay25]

The problem I have is in my 21 RT if I go into sport mode the car won't go into 7th or 8th gear unlest I'm doing like 70 on the highway. And sport mode makes the car snappier and louder which is nice but I don't want that when I'm just cruising down the highway.

[@matthewwatson572]

I've been doing this off and on for awhile now, does anybody else find your truck downshifts a bit harder when doing this? Or is it just my imagination, lol? I'm thinking when you keep all 8 going, instead of 4, your going to have a bit harder downshift points?

[@slash4270]

I have a 2009 Dodge Charger and from what I’ve heard my car comes with engine breaking so yours might as well mine is a pursuit so I’m thinking it’s for cops to stop quicker and easier is all

[@dlproductions9574]

i just turned MDS Off on my 08 Chrysler 300c and i noticed this too, but i would consider it due to the change from 6 to 8 cylinders when braking

[@Nooooahhh]

I don’t know I don’t really notice a difference in downshifting.

[@JerrySRT]

@@dlproductions9574how u turn it off

[@JerrySRT]

@@Nooooahhhfor me it takes so long to brake

[@madeleyinc]

Nope, this doesn't work for chrysler 300c 5.7 hemi

[@jv8296]

Thats not manual shifting, it's a gear limit for towing.

[@lowstakescrusher]

Incorrect. There is a separate Tow/Haul mode.

[@jv8296]

@@lowstakescrusher I'm definitely right. The gear limit is just that, a limit. You set what gear you want as the max, and the transmission will shift normally up to that gear. Tow/haul does not limit how many gears the transmission will use, it optimizes shift points for more power and will downshift for better engine braking. Tow/haul also reduces the risk of transmission overheating.

[@tylerdurden9748]

This does not work on a 2020 ram 1500 v6. 😢

[@gethatbag3221]

V6 doesn't have mds

[@tylerdurden9748]

@@gethatbag3221 i finally figured that out, what a relief! Good look hemi's

[@andrewfpv4226]

this isnt quite the same thing as a mds delete with a pcm retune.

[@raulquintanilla8718]

I have mine on all 8 cylinders, I'm just wondering why my 2017 5.7 hemi RAM stops at 105 mph can anyone tell me how I can fix this?

[@erlyncoronado5583]

I think(might be wrong) it’s cap at the computer. Basically need a new chip and tune. I could be wrong but that’s what I’ve been told.