Elon's Big Plan for Twitter's Future (kinda sucks)

A month into his ownership of Twitter, this weekend Musk leaked some slides from a recent Twitter meeting which shared his plans for the future of the app. So we unpack why Elon wants to turn Twitter into an everything app (and why that's not great)
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[@TLDRbusiness]

Hey quick message from me (Jack, the guy in the videos). Thanks for all the support on this video and all the others on this channel, really wild to see it blow up so fast. One thing I would like to note though. Some people, primarily those defending Elon, have taken to the comments to question the objectivity and impartiality of this video. That’s a fair critique, this video isn’t totally neutral, but it wasn’t trying to be. For those of you who don’t know, TLDR also run a number of other news KZbin channels where we make apolitical and neutral news content. However, this isn’t a news channel, it doesn’t fall under the same umbrella. Now that doesn’t mean I want to mislead, lie or fabricate on this channel. We’re still sticking to the facts and the reality, but when it comes to business I’m willing to throw in a little more spice. You might not agree with my takes on things, that’s fine. But I think there’s absolutely nothing incorrect in this video, just maybe a take that you disagree with. Feel free to comment about that, and I’ll try to respond, but please realise that this channel isn’t aiming for total neutrality - rather factual, semi-opinionated news reporting. There’s no agenda, it’s just my interpretation of events, as someone who’s not only running a small business, but also someone who’s worked on digital marketing for one of the huge brands mentioned in this video. If that doesn’t sit right with you that’s 100% fine, I just wanted to set expectations & explain the separation of Business and News content - Jack

[@DarkFruitsAnimation]

It would be nice if you just verbally separate your opinion from the facts, so I know the difference. Even better, why not cite people on both sides? e.g. "xxx from wall street thinks twitter is gonna burn" or something. Just my two cents though. I never really comment, but have followed you since you only had 1 channel with like 30k subs.

[@visigothsloth4819]

Don't give them the time. They whine no matter what and will pressure anything that isn't Elon PR. You do good stuff! Don't need to explain it!

[@onsokumaru4663]

This is just damage control PR bullshit.

[@DarkFruitsAnimation]

@@onsokumaru4663 Damage control? There's no damage though.....

[@onsokumaru4663]

@@DarkFruitsAnimation What do you call trying to persuade the public with positive news after your social media company has sailed through a shit storm that makes people doubt its longevity tremendously?

[@davidbates3057]

"The latest data... AS SHARED BY ELON!" Yeah... We can truly trust the data shared by the guy notorious for BS'ing investors about having secured government funding when he hadn't. Nothing to be suspicious about here.

[@angelainamarie9656]

Yeah that's where I stopped I don't think Elon has any credibility whatsoever right now

[@loowyatt6463]

What big person in business hasn't lied to Investors. In any case he wouldn't like because the repercussions if people find out he had lied would massively outweigh any benefit from lying. Not to mention if he lied he'd put way better data. So it make absolutely no sense for him to lie

[@andys844]

Those graphs have very narrow timeframes and definitely look more like something from a pitch deck than actually analysis. New sign ups on a platform known for spam accounts in the middle of a dumster fire take over aren't a reliable metric. Something indicating long term engagement would be far better

[@greenredblue]

@@loowyatt6463 Straight up lying is amateur hour. (Not to mention potentially illegal, although the laws are less strict for privately held organizations.) The way anyone with an above room-temp IQ does it is mislead, misrepresent, misdirect, selectively conceal. Partially why they were giving him such a hard time over his graphs. You can be pretty sure that any metric he didn't make public probably isn't doing very well. For example, he didn't make any financial or advertiser data public, even in a misleading form, like a lot of this data was. If Twitter moderation is restored to EU and advertiser satisfaction then perhaps he can turn it around, and then I guarantee you he'll be bragging about it regardless of what state Twitter's in. But it's far too soon to blindly prophecy (A) success for a man who's never managed a company outside of finance or engineering, never managed a non-startup, never had to work with advertisers, and seems openly contemptuous of the idea that he has anything to learn, or (B) failure for a company with a highly successful bare-minimum product and locked-in userbase.

[@jaycol21]

Elon Musk is a genius. He just won a huge battle with Apple that 100% absolutely definitely happened…and wasn’t just him repeatedly punching himself in the face while blaming Apple for it. Anybody who believes Elon Musk at this point deserves what they get.

[@garysantos7053]

Yes, Twitter's numbers are up; it's called Rubbernecking. Rubberneck has been described as a human trait associated with morbid curiosity. It is often the cause of traffic jams, sometimes referred to as "gapers' block" or "gapers' delay."

[@ahmadness6995]

keep crying lmao

[@TisDansk]

@@ahmadness6995 no u elon stan

[@ahmadness6995]

@@TisDansk i will be whatever it takes to make u guys trigger cry cry lololol

[@fammnak852]

Makes sense, because I really wanted to make an account just to watch him tweet while eating popcorn lmao

[@ahmadness6995]

@@fammnak852 now thats something i would raise my glass for! cheers!

[@Malisteen]

i don't see how elon's going to turn twitter into wechat with no employees.

[@soy_titooo]

😂😂😂

[@kreaturen]

By sleeping in the office and working really hard!! #TrueBeliever

[@Theguyoverthere603]

@@ahmadness6995 Why are you spamming this on every comment

[@SRMoore1178]

I will cry if he fails because I am a huge Elon simp, just like you. Kidding, man. I'm more into his SpaceX endeavors. I don't know why he had to get himself into this twitter bullsh**. Seems like a bonehead move to me. He won't get to Mars if he's messin' around with Twitter all day. And I am excited about these manned Mars missions, he needs to chill and drop a little bit of that ego.

[@ahmadness6995]

@@SRMoore1178 i just find it funny how people are siding with the cooperate media just to take him down, because he wants free speech, they just hate losing their control over speech

[@casbot71]

I look forward to the future *tldr BUSINESS* video on _"Why Elon's graphs were misleading"._

[@anderssorenson9998]

I look forward to them having an evidence tag on them.

[@shotgun6X]

@@anderssorenson9998 evidence 1: badly labeled axis

[@toboterxp8155]

Honestly, given he fired most of the stats department, I'm pretty sure this data is crap.

[@oppionatedindividual8256]

Wah wah wah! 😢

[@edddie7563]

u only need 1 person to pull these stats genius

[@mariomoneta2833]

@@edddie7563 I mean yeah is really horrible data that means nothing if you really know about statistics and how companies and other manipulate them to tell a story, like using logarithmic scales, different time frames, etc

[@toboterxp8155]

@@edddie7563 Yeah, but filtering for a metric as complex as "monetizable users" is very difficult. Since it's quite strongly dependant on bot detection and such. So this could easily be the bot detection just getting way more permissive, counting more bots as users. Either maliciously or incompetently, since presumably that department has been down-sized as well.

[@edddie7563]

@@toboterxp8155 yes but it doesn’t matter, twitter before elon would include bots as well cuz it makes them look better. they would just pretend to not notice uno

[@ErmisSouldatos]

the y axis being all over the place was intentional, it makes marginal gains seem massive, and wrong choice of axis in graphs is one of the most common ways to make them misleading without publishing false information. Also, out of all the metrics, he only chose to post these because they were the positive ones, I am pretty sure there are bad ones that he just did not tell everyone about.

[@XMysticHerox]

Some other tips to manipulate your data: Add some sneaky logarithmic scales in there. Choose your time frame as it suits you. Just leave out details on what the axis actually stands for or even numbers in general. Truncuate your graph. Add more divisions on your y axis.

[@majorityperspective3197]

@@MuhammedChand or he faked it all deliberately to lure back in some of the advertisers

[@jakeroper1096]

Oh yeah those bad ones that show them losing subscribers!

[@khayreddinekhayro7108]

thank you for sharing this can you please point me towards a video that explains this? thank you.

[@ErmisSouldatos]

@@khayreddinekhayro7108 I think this video explains it pretty well kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2qUk3qKbqedj80

[@LENZ5369]

Yep, pretty sure those millions of new users are totally definitely all real people...

[@al1gned]

Absolutely no doubt..

[@benfulford3943]

While I'm expecting there to be a lot of new bots, also a lot of people started new accounts when he completely botched the blue tick subscription. They spent 8 dollars to make a fake account and then they all got booted for taking the piss

[@filipruml]

@@benfulford3943 I doubt it was a significant number of people willing to spend $8 just to take a piss at Elon. Thousands, maybe even tens of thousands but that's still nothing compared to the supposed 2 million daily new users. Probably a lot Elon fanboys and bots.

[@cs4723]

I'm one of them, never used twitter before signed up yesterday. It shows a lot when people are afraid of free speech. I couldn't care less about people's hurt feelings.

[@KaiserAfini]

"Alright everyone, roll out the bot army. If we don't feed the boss' delusions,we might end up needing to work for the fruit loop over at Meta"

[@mrrd4444]

The hate speech thing is also suspect considering they simply aren't addressing a lot of hate speech on the platform. It's like saying "robberies are down 50%" because they decided to just not address 50% of all robberies anymore lol

[@Heyu7her3]

"Hate speech" also needs to be defined because what he means is likely different than what people think of

[@luminousdelight5097]

I assume the spike was from when everyone was like "omg free speech on twitter" and that it just kinda died down a bit by now. Its still there by large amounts but not as much as during the aquisition

[@Vasiliosx2]

He has no moderation team, without ever having a Twitter account, I can almost garrentee that the growing graph is bots and Trolls.

[@couldntmixapotnoodle]

You forgot racists

[@jai-kk5uu]

@@couldntmixapotnoodle bots I understand but what's the problem with trolls and racists. More trolls with growing user count means it's a more funny place. More racists with a growing user count means whites wanted blacks out of their social media platform and blacks are obliging them by quitting. (MORE HERE MEANS AS A PERCENTAGE(%) OF USERBASE)

[@javierpatag3609]

Kind of ironic as Musk tried to use bots as an excuse to back out from buying Twitter...

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

@@couldntmixapotnoodle And news media and SJWs.

[@cheesecake6696]

And the decline in hate speech is probably due to the cut back of the moderation team as well. It's not that theres less hate speech, theres just less people to catch and stop it.

[@runklestiltskin_2407]

2M signups per day! Bots and fake accounts, if true

[@benfulford3943]

There has recently been a huge surge in Chinese bot activity on twitter in response to the protests going on there. If you search any of the places where protests are going on (I believe using the Chinese characters) you get flooded with spam and porn. So yeah good work Elon getting rid of the bots

[@madensmith7014]

@@xxJJBOSSxx You don't really need an account if you want to view Twitter. It's highly likely that it's bots, and fake accounts that want to use the $8 blue check, along with the regular trickle of legitimate new users.

[@koalasandwich567]

Elon Musk: I like Free Speech Also Elon Musk: Copies the design of an app used in an authoritarian nation

[@dd-uy5lx]

till you make fun of him lol

[@johnmccarron7066]

I'm very curious how many of those new sign-ups are actually bot accounts created to take advantage of the current chaos.

[@Yorick257]

I'm a relatively new sign up (since summer). I only signed up because of a pop up that blocked me from viewing the content. They even managed to ban me for some bs even though I haven't posted/liked/reposted anything (maybe they were checking if I'm a bot?)

[@casperfourie9124]

So the new plan for Twitter is to become Tumbr with a Payment Processor?

[@allisterlobo7107]

That's weird... Elon's concerns about bots have disappeared

[@LightlylikeDeath]

it’s because they like his tweets now

[@QALibrary]

I am betting 99.9% of the new accounts are bots if it anything by my account experience is like

[@PaulThomas-qb9cx]

Twitter 2.0 is gonna be as world-changing as Quibi.

[@StevenHunt1]

These ideas for Twitter 2.0 seem pretty good... in like 2015. Back when the secure DM and payment apps were starting to take off and there was room to compete in the space, they might have had a chance.

[@jaymeez]

These slides were provided by Elon and you believe them?

[@herisuryadi6885]

jack did add some caveats early on the video

[@DutchBlackMantha]

Well, publishing provably wrong data sounds like a big risk. That's the sort of thing that can lose you a case for defrauding investors. More likely, the data is cherry-picked and presented in a way to make it seem as good as possible.

[@alimfuzzy]

@@DutchBlackMantha what investors...Twitter is private now. And it's impossible to verify without a leak.

[@semikolondev]

Specially Elon, a ponzi schemer who continuously lies on anything he worked on.

[@huguesjouffrai9618]

@@alimfuzzy well if there are no investors to convince, what's the point in lying about the numbers? To brag? It's a huge risk, it would eventually come out. Musk has a track record of saying exactly what he thinks which has put him in all sorts of trouble (over promising, troubles with the SEC, making a ton of ennemies) and he says a lot of stupid things. But out of all the stupid things he's said, he doesn't have a record of lying It's also time and resource consuming.

[@akanar_1924]

"Sorry, the person that did the graphs was fired" - Twitter

[@phu010]

However, their replacement is excellent and has just got a pay rise.

[@exploshaun]

Just because twitter isn't dead yet doesn't mean the ship won't run out of fuel and sink later.

[@couldntmixapotnoodle]

I dont post on twitter. Ive retweeted a whole 2 things before. I have 70 bot accounts following me, if everyones account is like mine, there is a shitload of bots that nobody seems to want to do anything about.

[@GameFreak992]

Given his fascination with WeChat, its hard to not use that as a potential blueprint for what he's aiming. But even if you compare it to an app like the starbucks app. If twitter decides to introduce a wallet, and allow people to use it to buy things. It can act as an interest free loan for twitter to prop up their cash reserves.

[@Yami0to0hikari]

The problem with gg into the payment industry is that it is extremely competitive these days. Like why would you put your money on the twitter app over let's say Samsung pay/apple pay/Google pay/ whatever equalivalent you have in ur region

[@Yorick257]

@@Yami0to0hikari yeah, I don't even understand why people use some third party apps when I can just use my bank app OR pay directly with my card

[@edddie7563]

@@Yami0to0hikari ur comparisons are completely irrelevant apple pay doesn’t store money

[@bobmcbobbins7329]

I’m just waiting for the day Musk declares war on TLDR for the crime of graph hate 😂

[@mbathroom1]

last time I was this early, Elon Musk didn't own twitter

[@fammnak852]

Thank you TLDR I just found you last week and quickly became on of my fave channels! Subscribed! ❤

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Kind of skeptical of Elon’s graphs. It would be like Elon using a digital Sharpie like how Trump Sharpie-d a map.

[@Gabriel2005Gaming]

Guys remember those deceptive ads by google claiming that the search button on a chrome is the "everything button" maybe Twitter is taking a play from google

[@kevinboros7427]

The only impressive thing about these graphs is their lack of quality control.

[@kageisuke]

I'm still hoping Twitter goes down in flames and becomes far less influential. It's a hellscape.

[@tomskih203]

I think the next big social media app will be a social market place. I mean by this a space where people can socialise whilst being completely in control of their data and how it is used and where it goes. Data is the currency of the online world and is also a source of great power and influence. As people are realising this I believe a big shift is coming and the next Facebook or Twitter will get on this concept early so when the shift happens people will have a starter place to migrate to.

[@Chaos_God_of_Fate]

Sounds nice, but it's a pipe dream.

[@pinheirokde]

I left twitter the day he announced he was going to buy it

[@1Rab]

We have no idea how these graphs are scaled without at least 2 values shown on the Y axis.

[@gilolaes4725]

Now that the video's mentioned it, I can't think of any of Elon Musk's successful ventures that *didn't* have some kind of first movers advantage. Starlink is probably the closest you can get, but even that one has the whole set up your own tower thing to make it stand out.

[@s.c.9878]

My experience on Twitter is that no-one looks at the videos.

[@pyroman7196]

Keep in mind a lot of new users are fake users for trolling now that you can buy authentication check marks.

[@rajdeepnath6890]

Fake it till you make it. He's using this old trick. He seems desperate.

[@sandoxavier]

He is

[@blcstriker9052]

Human's are simple. We see big fire. We gather around.

[@westerling8436]

Newsflash: it's possible to fake a graph

[@majorityperspective3197]

Exactly. And he is notorious for faking stuff and for his lies to inflate Tesla's value

[@gigog27]

google's services are already close to being an everything app. Because they are different apps, we don't realise that our emails, payments, documents, storage... are already controlled by one entity

[@dvklaveren]

I think that you might be sleeping on the advertising as entertainment angle. Lots of people use social media for role-play blogging. Role-play blogs are accounts dedicated to one or multiple characters, usually belonging to an existing franchise or written to belong in that franchise (so-called 'canon characters' and 'original characters'). It is an underserved market, but role-players tend to be wildly loyal consumers. Basically, a lot of so-called parody accounts are actually role-play account. You could make a couple of changes to the platform to make roleplay more accessible. 1. You could centralize parody accounts in a parent-child relationship under a single writer account and have the parody accounts share features with the writer account; If you block or are blocked on one parody account, the block should extend to all parody accounts both ways. That makes it much easier to manage if someone expresses their freedoms and blocks you on one account without you knowing about it, so that you won't be accused or tempted into block-evading. 2. Official Game Master tools; In addition to free-form roleplay, there's roleplay using existing systems, the most famous of which is Dungeons & Dragons. It would be great if Twitter launched tools that would allow users on the platform to, say, add meter bars to a thread that they can add or decrease and include a dice rolling algorithm with an API to allow users to roll dice for each account. Look at Roll20 for examples of those. Though these tools sound unambitious, with enough users (of which Twitter has an enormous amount), the same tools used for role-play can probably find niche uses elsewhere. X. Unrelated to advertising as entertainment; As someone wisely said recently; Moderation is the product. So, to improve moderation, you need to give users more moderation tools. And while moderation in an absolutist free speech environment might seem difficult, filtering your timeline is also a form of moderation. Twitter could overhaul it's tag system to make it easier to filter out results that you do not want. Rather than storing tags as part of the text of each tweet, tags should be stored outside of it. What's more, tags should come with logic statements. Basically, have the search results follow simple logic and allow posts to include strings of logic to respond to certain search queries and allow users who are not the original creator to assign those tags. For example NOT(SFW) should be searchable if Twitter wants to keep it's porn and keep it searchable, but you should also be able to mark that a certain post should be considered NOT(SFW), if for no other reason than to make it easier for an algorithm to double-check if it is indeed NOT(SFW).

[@dvklaveren]

Other features that would improve Twitter: The ability to create multiple circles and having all circle functionalities in both mobile and desktop versions in all regions. Allowing Moments to be created on mobile and allowing people to opt out of Moments notifications. Generally, I don't see a particular reason why people need to be notified by default about a Moment.

[@dvklaveren]

Tying the reason for blocking someone to a specific post and adding an optional rule that says that everyone who liked and retweeted that post should also be blocked. For example, this could be because the post has child exploitation in it; You'd want to block everyone that thought that post needed to exist. This way, people must commit themselves to a particular reason why someone was blocked, rather than building a giant list of nameless, faceless people you blocked in some nebulous past. It takes more commitment.

[@hugh_jasso]

My job requires 20 unique logins for security.. and we don't even process CC's... Why in the Twitter Hell would i want all of my personal info on one app making it that much easier to steal?

[@mariantoma951]

congrats on not getting a stroke after trying to decipher those graphs

[@WvhKerkhof]

There is no Twitter in the future.

[@benjaminandersen1097]

i wonder how many people created a twitter account just to watch its downfall.. -and if the crowd is numerous enough to actually keep twitteer from sinking

[@a1asdairpage]

9:07 “and they’re competing against behemoths in this space” - mmm, it’s not like Elon to take on behemoths 🤔

[@hhj1897]

WeChat’s popularity in China can be attributed, at least in part, to the fact that it enjoys a de facto government-sanctioned monopoly. I wonder whether an everything app can even exist under a different circumstance.

[@aenarioncourts9516]

Its funny that i dont see any graphs in terms of their revenue

[@Psi01]

The lack of a y-axis makes the data unreliable. Without a y-axis, preferably one with several labeled marks or graduations, you can easily "squish" (make a mountains pattern look like a horizontal line) or stretch (basically the opposite) the graph vertically to give a false impression of the importance of the data to viewers. It works if viewers don't have a clue about how to construct, read, and make inferences from graphs, otherwise for those that do know, this is just taking advantage of people's ignorance in order to manipulate them.

[@TheMagicJIZZ]

What's wrong with disrupting cash app? ( Jack Dorsey product ironically from square) or KZbin competition?

[@mhandle109]

D is silent? I mean in „advertiser”.

[@fb150185]

I would love it of you gius made a video on why Elon was/is interested in Twitter in the first place. Given his other companies and the supposed missions they have, Twitter seems a little like the odd man out. And though he has always been a character, it is safe to say the Twitter ordeal is next level. I would really like an opinion piece of you guys on this.

[@Bluehoshiflower]

He poses himself as "savior of humanity", and wants to bring "free speech" to Twitter. Also owning big media outlet can help with his own self-branding

[@tomskih203]

Just a point. Statistics can be changed by changing how you define them. If musk defines things slightly differently then he can change criteria and thus cause stats to change. I think Musk does want to make the western WeChat. A very difficult task to achieve over multiple democratic countries.

[@scalylayde8751]

this just makes me think of that college humor sketch "omni- do everything (poorly)"

[@skywise001]

I trust your opinion on things far more than that guy's. I figure he just took a sharpie to the proposal and made things look better. Also you forgot to include the monitoring and manipulation of Wechat. If he is trying to be more like them, well, time for me to quit twitter.

[@winkletter]

If you don't have a way to monetize your user base, then more users is a larger liability.

[@generalgremlin3811]

I created my twitter account with a single purpose of voting during mc live on new mobs, so besides one vote a year my account remains dead. Question is, how many more people like me did the same

[@PostingCringeOnMain]

I think what people, or rather Elon, has missed about WeChat is that it's kind of a developer platform as well - it has 'mini programmes' which intergrate various services around various regions in the country which can include travel cards for city region metro lines, busses, taxis, pandemic track and trace/pcr testing, shopping, second hand markets, heck even my customs declaration to enter China was done on WeChat. Twitter will just never get that kind of buy-in from major institutions. That said, I think there is a place for a QR code scan-to-pay system like WeChat/AliPay that could be intergrated through pre existing Visa/Mastercard payment processors... but if its anything like the men on mars, the self driving cars, the 3 dimensional tunnels that will erase traffic... ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@PostingCringeOnMain]

@Zaydan Alfariz I just don't see how Twitter can achieve it on a scale that incentivises the already pre-existing services to intergrate/cooperate. I mean everyones already used to using Uber, JustEat or even ordering direct from the Dominos app. Where's the incentive from either the customer or the business to do it all through Twitter? What benefit does it bring? WeChat and AliPay offered the benefit of making it easy for small retailers to integrate mobile banking, all they need is a QR code sticker and a little point of sale device running on 4G/5G to take wireless payments - a great advantage if those services and infrastructure don't already exist... which they do in every economy where Twitter is a viable platform. It's just not able to offer anything that isn't already pre-existing and I don't see/hear any demand to have 'one app to rule them all' when we're all already used to just having different apps for different services.

[@PostingCringeOnMain]

@Zaydan Alfariz I just don't see how Twitter can achieve it on a scale that incentivises the already pre-existing services to intergrate/cooperate. I mean everyones already used to using Uber, JustEat or even ordering direct from the Dominos app. Where's the incentive from either the customer or the business to do it all through Twitter? What benefit does it bring? WeChat and AliPay offered the benefit of making it easy for small retailers to integrate mobile banking, all they need is a QR code sticker and a little point of sale device running on 4G/5G to take wireless payments - a great advantage if those services and infrastructure don't already exist... which they do in every economy where Twitter is a viable platform. It's just not able to offer anything that isn't already pre-existing and I don't see/hear any demand to have 'one app to rule them all' when we're all already used to just having different apps for different services.

[@old_grey_cat]

"Everything app"? Never: imagine if the system crashes or is hacked: all aspects of your life banjaxed! All eggs in one basket leads to a big mess if it is dropped. Relying on the www as we do is quite enough of a potential catastrophe point, thanks.

[@proton8689]

Elon: Bro, I got a great idea. Genius Twitter: Please leave me alone, I'm still recovering from that blue-cheque drama Elon: Okay hear me out. It's got nothing to do with free speech, nothing at all. Twitter **sighs**: Okay, what is it? Elon: You become an Everything App . . . Twitter: Go back to paypall. Elon: It's a genius idea! Trust me! Twitter: It is objectively not! Copying Chinese apps is objectively a bad idea!

[@davidbates3057]

New signups at an all time high. I wonder how many of them are bots, lol.

[@mammajamma4397]

Who wrote those slides? Someone's probably lying so they can lure advertisers back

[@DeFiSiYT]

A whole bunch of new bots signed up 😂

[@karolliver]

Elon fired everyone exept that one guy in PR who draws fake graphs.

[@rhysholdaway]

Too little too late. Don't think I would trust Twitter with any financial data.

[@LizardSpork]

The fact that these trends and plans were already in progress before Elon bought the company and threw it into chaos should tell you exactly how likely it will succeed, cos you know, confident companies are always desperate to sell themselves to the point of countersuing when the prospective buyer tried to back out of the purchase.

[@jhwheuer]

Didn’t know that so many trolls and nazis hadn’t been on Twitter yet.

[@turtlecatpurrz]

Paint me skeptical

[@pvant23]

While I agree the direction of Twitter is bizarre, but having a headline that says “(kinda sucks)” removes any objectivity in the video.

[@25784lazza]

The reason people are so keen to join is to see it all burn down lol.

[@pushstart1t]

When the Chinese use Wechat does the CCP get to charge a small fee to themselves when citizens use the app? I assume Musk wants that to do the the same and have a small fee attached to him when some makes any transactions on the platform from partner companies if that maybe the case

[@cookiecola5852]

Yeah but that off no concern for his cult They’ll turn on and off their ‘principle’ on a fly whenever its convinently

[@williamhenry8914]

Boys, given that you have about 5 typos in your slides per episode you don't get to bag on people's graphs

[@juliegolick]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that the TL;DR team are not multibillionaires, though. Difference of scale in available resources.

[@williamhenry8914]

@@juliegolick i didn't realize it cost so much money to fix a typo

[@alimfuzzy]

Why would you trust anything Elon puts out.

[@pdroms00]

I have love TLDR news since Brexit. Excellent coverage. But talking about Elon Musk's Twitter acquisition, there is a smugness and a rush to call fail that distance the channel from being informative to being opinionated and trying to preview the future. Not great.

[@tonozx2000]

switched to Thooth social very big, berry bountiful..

[@TimothyCollins]

Sounds a bit like Zuckerberg and the Metaverse plans. Count me out.

[@matttran7161]

Twitter user growth still costs money to operate.

[@Geoe423]

The giants won’t let Elon play.

[@chengong388]

Guess there's no such thing as bad publicity

[@michaelcooksey7232]

Not sure you did your research on this. Goldman Sacks says different. So maybe you based on elon’s marketing materials.

[@angusmacfrankenstein7227]

For some reason, when I think of Twitter, I think of the game _Goat Simulator…_ 🤔

[@hiroyoshi00]

2 million signups, including the likes of George Washington and Jesus, all verified.

[@jasonackerman9065]

Can you please do a video explaining the Bob CEO swap at Disney? Why was Bob C booted and Bob I brought back?

[@friedrichjunzt]

first I misheart "lies" instead of "slides". 😁 ... Well, bay be thats because these slides are no "data" but just some Musk PR.

[@AeschylusShepherd]

Their all bots that are being registered, Advertisers has dropped off like a rock. He's losing more and more money. Doesn't matter if an army of bots register. lol

[@Zigg33]

Elon figured out that an add revenue based company must show good stats to keep money flowing. He was lying about tesla's selfdriving for 8 years, everything about hyperloop, most things about space x, now we should believe his graphs about twitter getting better..? sry no way

[@lollertoaster]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I can see how Musk's actions so far might make sense. Cut every cost you can, with no regard how it affects the revenue. As you approach 0 cost, you also approach 0 revenue but obviously you never let it go to 0 - you cut as must as you can until you are left with a "core business". Then you redirect costs only in places that measurably translate into more money. I don't claim this is a good way to run a business, it probably is actually very poor idea to cut everything that cannot be measured, like things raising morale or talent retention. But as a self-described control freak and minimalist, I can see why having complete understanding of what and how happens with your money look appealing.

[@supersam5802]

Yeah, he’s just doing adventure capitalism in the modern day, twitters being gutted and the profits will keep the money fires over at Tesla and space x burning

[@udenaparenica]

Problem is when you're on the hook for 1bln every year in interest alone having 0 revenue is a bad idea

[@doubledkay5356]

I think it'll succeed, regardless of what you think of Elon, he's a successful businessman, he's got experience in jumping onto failing companies and turning them into bohemoths.

[@TheTawniest]

Is it not impossible to distinguish whether a sign-up is an actual user vs a bot? We are dealing with a particularly tech fan base. How do you know the year was a mistake on the active minutes graph? It would be consistent with the run-up to the last US Presidential election & it is not above Elon to misrepresent data. Never assume Elon is telling the truth.

[@liquidl5380]

I'm just skeptical that Elon can make an everything app. Amazon and Google are the closest companies we have to the idea of an "everything" app and they haven't made it work either with having all their app services being piecemeal. I also agree that there just isn't an appetite in the West to have one super app for everything.

[@debyton]

It would be ironic if Elon buys back PayPal.

[@meprivate6923]

I don't believe a single one of these slides are fully true. Also, we need to remember: Elon plays at being a genius.

[@matteo8080]

Try to stay impartial. Its one of the big reasons your content is above the par. Idc you don't like Elon, i just want to hear the truth.

[@mrfoameruk]

So the cleverest man in the world is basically copying another company.....He hasn't invited anything revolutionary ever. Tesla Cars... We had electric milk floats in the '70s. Rockets...Whats new there. The only thing he's good at is copying.

[@judelarkin2883]

We’ll see. I don’t think erratic spectacle has a good track record as a good business strategy. I think Apple is an example of the opposite. It became the biggest company in the world selling phones and by being a very boring company. Steve Jobs was actually a pretty boring person if you think about it and I think that instilled confidence in investors, regulators and customers. Elon’s counterculture brand has won his a fanatical fan base but he’s going to need a much broader customer base.

[@BlackXanthas]

Didnt homer simpson already tell kent brockman about fourteenifth percent, and statistics?

[@Apo0]

I think I could do better than Musk at Twitter. I could at least get advertisers to come on board.

[@ryltair]

So Twitter 2.0 would essentially be giving the keys of your on- and offline life to a completely unstable billionaire snowflake? I'll be sitting this one out thank you very much.

[@glenipolus9731]

not biased at all

[@mauriciomdea]

"New users" lol

[@mauriciomdea]

More like returning banned accounts and bots