How to diffuse your Neewer 660 LED Panels | Budget | GVM 800D and many more

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

PURCHASE LINKS HERE: Umbrella Adaptor: @t Umbrella: @t Square Softbox: @t Circular Softbox: @t 43” Reflector: @t Lightstand w/holder: @t Neewer 660 Bi-Color: @t Neewer 660 Bi-Color SMD: @t Neewer 660 RGB: @t Neewer 660 RGB PRO: @t ============== AFFILIATE LINKS ============== Gear I use and talked about in this episode. The links below are to Amazon (US, CAN, UK, DE, FR, ES, IT), Adorama, Ebay, or other affiliate links. As an affiliate, I may earn from qualifying purchases:

[@crystalfunky]

Thank you for not cutting the video after every 10 seconds or so like so many youtubers. It's exhausting. Good content!

[@c0pyimitati0n]

Damn, your videos are so freaking detailed. If people only understood the insane amount of time you spend on each video.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again Copy Imitation! Thanks as always for the kind words! Always happy to try and find ways to help the community with their filmmaking needs or curiosities!

[@CJ2041]

Bro - Almost 3 years later this video just helped me out massively and potentially saved me money. Thanks bud!

[@KartRacer2020]

Best explanation for anyone who uses the Neewer 660s on their own and wants to upgrade to eliminate the harsh shadows. Well done sir

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Jimmy! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@danpurdy]

I purchased nine (yes, 9!) of these lights as a newbie setting up a KZbin studio with different sets. I ceiling mounted 6 lights using scissor clips on the drop ceiling rail of a rented office. I struggled for weeks trying to properly light my back wall scenes and subject with different angles, settings, near/far positions, and adjustments. This video taught me a lot about light diffusion methods. I’m now seeking a video on how to best create “groups” of lights in the latest Neewer app version. That is, 2 lights (Group 1) run on the same settings while 2 other lights (Group 2) run on different settings/channels, without having to manually set each light.

[@CrueltyFreeGracefully]

The 5 in one definitely looks the best in comparison, but dang, that lil umbrella ☂ is mighty!!! Especially for the price discrepancy. Thanks so much for this visual. That was so helpful to see everything side by side

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

GGGGGGG! I know right? It almost makes me want to sing in the rain with these kind of soft results lol!

[@CrueltyFreeGracefully]

@@TLDR_filmmaker actually sing in the rain, or your own rendition of "Singin In The Rain" because I think the latter would be pretty nifty

[@DesertCookie]

After having pondered this decision and going back and forth I think I finally decided: The round softbox is what I am going to go with, even though it is more expensive, simply because it allows the softbox to be fixed to the light without having to take off the barn doors. In situations where we have to pack and unpack often, this is the best way for me.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again DesertCookie! Actually with the Circle Version (assuming they haven't changed the design) You will need to keep the barn doors on for it to affix to the panel.

[@lylyluvda916]

I have these lights in storage because I chicken out once I had my youtube equipment ready. Finally felt brave enough to start and was now wondering how to diffuse these instead of spending more $$ on new equipment. Thanks for this video.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

So glad to hear you're ready to start filming and that this video helped!

[@melaniegriesemer]

Thank you so much for all of this info! Taping parchment paper to my light is a little too unprofessional looking so I started doing more research and here I am. I was so torn between the circular and square softbox diffuser covers and then saw the circular wasn't available right now, but that makes me feel better now that you say the results are so similar anyway! Just ordered the square one, so excited to try it out!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

So glad this video was helpful!

[@MrMrlky]

i bought a neewer 660 bicolor because of your video! was looking at softboxes when your vid came up

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Yuen! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video came right on time! Hope this helped with your diffusion needs! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@misterwhyte]

This is a great comparison, I just wish you compared light spill as well. I'm guessing the umbrella spills more than the softboxes but it's not easy to assess on such a neutral background. Apart from this, great video!

[@AndyDay]

Super useful. Thanks! (Possibly worth mentioning: the umbrella gives the softest, cheapest results, but this setup also leaks light - unlike the softboxes. And with the softboxes, you have the option of adding the grid.)

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Andy! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad you enjoyed this video! And you make a good point about light leaks and softbox grids. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@mauricio-poppe]

Exactly what I needed, I ended up buying a simple clamp with a cable that I connect to the light stand to hold the 5in1 diffuser, thank you for the ideas!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

You're most welcome! So glad this video was helpful!

[@mario98730]

Wow I wish I had this video like 4 years ago when I first bought the 660. Would’ve gotten an umbrella instead of the square softbox saved some 😂. Excellent video!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Haha I think I can say that for just about all my purchaes

[@cmqjapan]

Thank you. I was having trouble attaching the round Softbox to my Neewer 660. I was under the impression that I needed to take off the barn door, but the Softbox wouldn't stay in position. Watching you put your Softbox over the barn doors really helped me. Also, I will take off the diffusion panel.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey CMQ Japan! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video helped out! Yea the circular one definitely needs the barndoors on. Kind of weird that the circular ones didn't a easier way to do it without the barndoors. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@srbrocoli]

Wow! i always wondered what happened to Stingy from lazy town! Kudos for your personal growth!!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Emmanuel! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! lol never watched Lazy Town, but lord I don't look like Stingy hahaha Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@FilmshooterOH]

Great tutorial and advice. I teaching video production at the college level and will recommend this video and products to my students.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Scott! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm so glad this video is helpful and that it could be beneficial for your students! Are there any other types of tutorial videos that I could create to further help the class? Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@FilmshooterOH]

@@TLDR_filmmaker You're welcome. As to suggestions for videos: - Simple interview lighting - Low cost lighting for narrative scenarios like a conversation or streets at night - A your first light kit video for students or recent grads

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

@@FilmshooterOH Noted.

[@NAC.Approved]

Was about to spend the coin on softboxes till I watched this... grabbing up some umbrellas and adapters now! Thanks!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey NAC Reviews! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful in your decision! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@AG-mk3tc]

Wow..what an excellent lesson on gear and lights.. just what I need to understand and learn..

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey AG! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@PaulCrouse]

Wow, thanks for this. I really appreciate your excellent, clear presentation. I am stills guy starting to learn video. This was really helpful. I’ll be checking out more of your videos.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Paul! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm so glad this video was helpful! Coming from stills you got a lot of foundation to start from. I do have a pure beginners youtuber video where I talk through camera settings that we use. Hope this video helps further! kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZDHpIJ7gt-ljKM Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@neformalno_s_georgi_petkov]

Thank you for this video and for all the knowledge that you are sharing! And also - for the professional manner that you present your content. I'll definitely look at your other videos and recommend you to the audience in Bulgaria. Have a great one!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Thank you so much for the kind words! I will continue to do my best!

[@WhitneyStylez]

I learn so much watching your videos! I appreciate the level of planning, detail, b-roll, and cool editing you put into each one.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again Whitney! So glad you are getting value on this follow up video!

[@aliquran7535]

@@TLDR_filmmaker which light you recommended neewer 660 Or GVM 800D? Thank you

[@50450720]

Nice video, the 660's are great for close up Interviews, and the moderators you show are decent. The umbrella definitely gives the best bang per buck!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again 50450720! Most definitely! I look forward to playing with more umbrella diffusion options!

[@LoveHawaii808]

Just wanted to say "Thank You" for putting all those test comparisons to this video. It was very helpful, since I'm new to contents creation (KZbin) world, this video helps me a lots

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Love Hawaii! So glad this video was helpful! I got a lot of videos for beginning content creators coming through the weeks. Hope they continue to help you on your journey! All the best!

[@seanmarkbaxter]

Thank you for making a video that is actually helpful on a topic people don't talk about enough. An umbrella kit is on its way to me soon now.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Sean! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@jefferymehaffey9747]

That was a great video. I've seen so many videos of people hating on the 660's, but I think you can use it with the proper diffusion under certain circumstances that would help. Great video!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

So glad this video was helpful! Yes the 660s panels are still very versatile when modified correctly to get the look you're going for!

[@NickinNashville]

gosh you have no idea how helpful this video was, thanks so much brother

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Nick! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! You're most welcome, so glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@joaoblumel]

Thanks sooo so much for this video! I own exactly the same lights and recently bought the square softbox and I never thought of using an umbrella or the 5 in 1 reflector (and I already own these as well). Great video as always. And yes please, do a Neewer 660 playlist. You rock 🤘

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey João! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! You're most welcome, so glad this video was valuable! Awesome, I will start thinking of some 660 ideas to further develop this series! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@joaoblumel]

@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks man, you rock! I've been watching your videos for over a year now. It's funny because we both own the GH5 and the Rode Videomic NTG and I've always found your reviews pretty good and straight to the point. I can always relate to your videos. Keep it up!

[@AussieMalayaliVlogs]

Bro, been through many videos as a novice youtuber. Your videos are very simple and detailed. Thank you so much for the effort. 😊

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Aussie! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm so happy this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@KeeksSecretGarden]

Thanks, I was looking on Amazon wondering which way to go with diffusers. Umbrella's it is. Appreciate this video.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Keeks! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@farhanbadru3671]

0:45 led light transition hahaha😄 finally waiting this video!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again Farhan! Hahaha! So glad you enjoyed this video!

[@WhyTom]

I just watched like 10 of your videos. Love the effort dude! I'll be back (:

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey WhyTom! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I sincerely appreciate that! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@MarlonKingShow]

Awesome, just bought 660 as my parabolic was too big for setting up in my room all the time. But it always goes full circle, you can't shortcut good lighting without space and setup.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Marlon! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Ain't that the truth, the setups I could do with this channel if I had a larger studio space with a nice solid 20ft ceilings haha! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@MarkWodjykl]

Softness to price ratio. Good one!

[@WhitneyStylez]

I love the breakdown at the end where you share which scenarios this light set up would be ideal for.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

I try my best to think about what scenarios people may want to use gear for :)

[@ScreenActingSuccess]

Wow! Thanks for this postgraduate lighting tutorial!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Screen Acting Success! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad you enjoyed the video! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@pathegartyfilmssongs9487]

Hi,great tutorial, no waffle and straight to the point. My Question is the battery life you quoted for one ore both batteries connected?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Pat! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad you enjoyed the video! The battery life is from two large Sony NPF batteries (NPF970) Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@russjam]

Yaas! Thank you ... any additional info regarding Neewer is welcome. I bought the RGB 660 version 3 pack about a year ago.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again Russell! You're most welcome! I will keep thinking of new 660 content!

[@dramaversy6569]

Good video: the Neweer boxes and especially with the grid they have was an option will keep the background dark when that is desired and many KZbin creators do choose that look of dark background.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

They sure do and those grids definitely help with it!

[@11acornlane]

Awesome! Thanks! (And you made the umbrella adapter sell out on Amazon, haha!)

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey 11 Acorn Lane! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Oh my goodness, it is sold out! Crazy! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@rafaelcferraz]

I love the video! Thank you so much! Just a little feedback I thuink would be better if you just use a simple cut because thie flip transition take our attention from the video. Thank you bro!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again Rafael! You're most welcome! For me currently I do simple cuts if I'm staying on topic visually and dialogue wise. I then use flip cuts to make peoples eyes startle and know something happened because Im about to change topics or to new topic visuals that I want someone to pay attention to. Its a type of psychological transition I use depending on when I want someone to for sure pay attention haha. Hope that makes sense!

[@jbcreations2165]

This is awesome! Planning on buying one soon to start a lighting kit! Would love to have that playlist!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Jolien! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful! I will do my best to make some more fun content about the 660 panel! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@adamskigarage64]

Nice one, very good follow-up video. Thanks 👍😊 There is so much to learn about all this lights setups

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again adamski! Glad you got to check out this follow up! Definitely so much learn when it comes to lighting, it's a lot of fun as you start to play with it!

[@theinwardvoyage-dbsvibes7089]

Literally the exact video I was after! Thanks 😁

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey The Inward Voyage - DBSvibes! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad you were able to find this video and that it was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@StikxWoW]

Been waiting for a video on this for ages! Woooo!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Stikx! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Aw man, I wish I would have though to make this video earlier. Glad I did and that you found it! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@Damonjohntalks]

Thank you so much the harsh light always makes my face look red haha

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Haha so glad you found this video and that it was helpful!

[@ocpropertysisters9829]

You are so good at explaining...best review I have watched. Thank you

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey OC Property Sisters! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful and that you enjoy the format of the channel! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@Digmen1]

Great video I have a Nanlite 600 daylight so its simialr I suppose. I was amazed at the results from yout tests in that the 5 in 1 and the umbrella came out the best and the cheapest!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey DigNap15! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I know right? Sometimes you can just use the cheaper stuff and get what you need! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@ElBoyoElectronico]

This was a perfect comparison! I bought the Neewer NL660 set about 10 months ago. Unfortunately I got the version without any display on the back of the LED making it impossible to know which K values I am using the LEDs at. I am using this set for my KZbin channel, where I do drumcovers in a super tight space, which is where those LEDs really seem to shine due to the limited space (thank god for Manfrotto's autopoles!) . In my studio I am using the circular and the square softbox and when I use the LEDs in my living room, I tend to grad my cheap umbrella (lots of spill though...) or my 5in1 reflector. Atm I am saving up for the Godox VL150 for my talking head videos. I will definately keep my 660s though, since they are super flexible (with color gels, as a hair light, lighting the wall, etc.). Btw the cheapest option imo is baking paper (color shift can happen), a plain white shirt or a piece of bed lining.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey El Boyo Electronico! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Awesome! Glad the 660 panels are working out for you with the various diffusion options! Yup yup, I used wax paper for awhile as well! Solid cheap diffusion tricks! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@howardchud9097]

I use two Neewer square boxes. I used to use umbrellas (electronic flash) but they really get in the way in a smaller space.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

The umbrella's definitely take up a good chunk of space. Great and cheap for actual studio spaces haha

[@woodenhatrecords]

Perfect follow up to your other video on the 660s. Very useful advice to me. Thank you!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey woodenhatrecords! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this was helpful! I'll continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@morningcoffee1111]

Man I love this channel. You do this so right!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again morningcoffee1111! Thanks for the kind words! I'll keep doing my best!

[@UXXV]

The only thing missing from this video was a little more explanation about distance and how it affects things. Inverse square law is so important and I see a lot of people thinking putting a diffuser right on the light will somehow make it a larger point source. Also mention drop off and light spill using open diffusers like the umbrella where it goes everywhere including the background.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again UXXV! There was actually a version where I went into detail about the Inverse Square Law, but I felt it was going to spread this video too far so I just simplified it and said to go no further than a medium shot. But I do want to make a video about the Inverse Square Law as I do feel it's a critical topic that people need to understand.

[@UXXV]

@@TLDR_filmmaker Your content is amazing and the way you interact with people just adds to that buddy, thanks for the reply. Yeah it would be great to see that, I think its a point that would be the "aha" moment for people. Keep up the great work bud!

[@javiikiller]

Thanks, great explanation, but can you tell me what kind of adapter I need for going with the umbrella option with this kind of led panels?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Glad this video was helpful! I have the umbrella adaptor listed in the description.

[@viaoutdoors]

Would you use one with an Elgato Key Light to help soften the light further?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Jason! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm not sure how bright the Elgato Key light can get. If it's very bright you can definitely use an umbrella or reflector to soften the light further. I wouldn't use a softbox that is small and similar in size. You want the 2nd diffusion layer to be larger. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

PLEASE make a playlist!!!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again Sekrit! Alrighty! I'll think of some more content for 660 and LED panels!

[@furiousangus6467]

Your videos are very informative! Some of the best on KZbin, really. Whenever I see your name pop for a topic I'm looking for your video is the first I click. I have a question: I'm in the market for 660 RGB PRO but I also want the bi color version. Would it make sense to buy all RGB PROs or does the RGB PRO not work as efficiently as a bi-color?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Furious Angus! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this channel has been helpful for your product research! The RGB Pro is a good round about panel for inside a bed room and smaller setups, but if you are looking for maximum punching power, the Bi-Color 660 will have more because of that focused light. Depending on how many lights you need, say like a classic 3 piece setup. You can definitely mix it up to your needs, maybe 1x bicolor for the punch and then 2 RGB PRO for fill light and color use depending on your needs. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@FrancescoPaggiaro]

Very in depth and informative, thanks for all the tips and test

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Francesco! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad you enjoyed this video! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@psalmsbyharvz81]

You're tutorials and reviews are super helpful, detailed but not too long. Amazing! Just wondering if you could help me add the umbrella on my 660. I'm a newbie and don't know how to do properly. And if you could recommend specific umbrella and other needed hardware, I would appreciate it. By the way, Im from Canada. Thanks man

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Psalms by harvz! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad this video was helpful! All the links to the umbrella and umbrella bracket I used are in the description. In terms of putting it together, its pretty self explanatory when you receive the items. Simply mount the umbrella bracket onto the lightstand, and then the 660 on top of the umbrella bracket. There is then a little hole for you to slot the umbrella rod through. And thats it! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@psalmsbyharvz81]

@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks for quick response. I really appreciate it. I just noticed you have the links of the umbrella and the adapter below. Yeah! You're video are simple, easy to understand, brief but detailed. Would love to see more camera, lights and gear review. Currently I have ZV-E10. I have Sigma trio's, small rig case and would love to hear more useful accessories and gear for ZVE10.

[@fostervf16]

I had almost all the lights you are talking about and need to add my opinion on them. The 660 rgb, when it comes to only the whites, is much brighter than the regular 660 bi color. Even with less lights for the whites the RGB still very much outperforms on whites only. And of course you have the benefits of the colors as well. I recently upgraded all of my 660 rgb to the pro version. And the pro is definitely brighter all around on both whites and colors. It's also has higher wattage. Hence the reason it's brighter. And why I upgraded. I also own all the softboxes and diffusion equipment you mentioned. One thing not to forget is the convenience of the neewers. Because they attach right on the light and fold up in a very small/portable package. One thing you should have tried is neewers all white one. I have those as well. I would assume that they would be a bit better at removing shadows in the face and neck. But they will probably also spill some light onto your background. I would love to see a comparison video made comparing the all white, the black sides, and the the black with the grid added. I may do my own testing but don't think I'll be able to make a video to upload.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Adam! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Awesome to hear that the Neewer 660 RGB Pro's are brighter than my old 660 bi-colors. I don't have the newers 660 series to see how they compared to these older 2.4g models. I'm sure they've gotten better since then and still serve as an awesome deal for people looking for lights to start their filmmaking journey. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@fostervf16]

@@TLDR_filmmaker it's not just the pro rgb. I had the non pros as well. The regular 660 rgb. When I ordered them I also ordered 2 of the of the bi-color. Specifically because I thought on the white only they would be brighter. I was very much mistaken. The rgb's whites definitely blew away the bi-color. I even made an amazon review about it.

[@fostervf16]

@@TLDR_filmmaker by the way, I most definitely appreciate the reply. And your videos as well.

[@frankinblackpool]

Very good little episode. I think I will go with the Neewer Soft-boxes, simply because I don't have any other tripod stands, other than what came with my lights. Cheers

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Frank! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad you enjoyed the episode! The Square softbox is definitely the most streamlined solution. The Umbrella does not require an additional light stand, all you need is the light stand adaptor to give your light stand a umbrella mounting point. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@frankinblackpool]

@@TLDR_filmmaker The umbrella mounting point has just changed my mind. They are obviously the best option. You do realise that I am spending a fortune because of the reviews on your channel. 🤣 They are concise, to the point and help me part with my cash.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

@@frankinblackpool lol oh man! Just make sure Frank that anything you purchase/invest in solves 90% of your problems when filming. If it only solves 10%, then its not worth it.

[@frankinblackpool]

@@TLDR_filmmaker I don't really need one, but a couple of months ago I bought a Ninja V. That purchase most definitely fits into the 10% bracket for a hobbyist such as myself with such a low subs count to say the least, however I haven't for a single second regretted that purchase. 😂 I shall eagerly look forward to your next episode. Stay safe, sir.

[@Grooves_and_Golf]

So for just shooting videos for for Instagram, what would you recommend. I have a pretty small space that I am trying to light, so want to figure out what is the best light? Your content is great and I appreciate so much information!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey James! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! If you are doing "talking head" shots for instagram, these Neewer 660 LED panels are more than enough. If you are trying to light up your entire body for instagram with the camera further back, you'll want to look more into more powerful COB LED's around the 60-100watt range. From there you can determine if you want to diffuse them or not depending on what look you're going for. While the Neewer 660 can technically light you from further away, its going to look very deer in the headlights. Thought you do mention its in a small space, so I'm assuming you are just lighting up your face mainly and maybe half of you're torso. To which, yes, the neewer 660 diffused is more than enough for your needs. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@SMARTproAcademy]

Thanks a lot

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey SMARTpro Academy! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@Samawry6]

I appreciate the attention to detail. Thanks!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Marcus! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! You're most welcome! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@lovefirst6157]

The craziest thing about umbrellas is that you can buy bigger ones like a 43 to 45 inch, I find that the perfect blend of ultimate softness without it being to big and u can grab one of those for less than $30. I use the westcott 45 inch

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again Love First! Awesome! I definitely want to start playing with more umbrella setups after these tests!

[@GavinKohAquascaping]

Fantastic review. You touched on all the points that I needed to hear. Furthermore, I didn't even realize about the umbrella option and how good it looks. Where would you attach it to the light if i got the Neewer 660? Cheers!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Gavin! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The umbrella adaptor attaches to you light stand, and the on top of the adaptor is where your Neewer 660 goes. Its basically just an imbetween piece for the light stand and Neewer 600. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@GavinKohAquascaping]

@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks for your reply. Much appreciated!

[@JustDavidMinistries]

I love this! I got 4 of the RGB version and 4 of the square diffusers. I basically use them to lit my greenscreen. Thanks so much for this video❤️

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again David! Woot woot! You're most welcome! Always a pleasure when you stop by! Hope all is well my friend.

[@GrowWithWill]

How do you think this test would work vs. the 480s? Comparable outcomes?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Will! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! If I had to guess you would need to up your ISO by one stop or 1.5 to compensate. Or if you are using a f1.8 lens that could offset it too. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@JackZucker]

how many stops of light do you lose with each diffusion technique?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Jack! I honestly do not know that off the top of my head in terms of stops as I did not measure those. If I had to guess at it, I'd say you're losing on average around 1 to 1-1/3 stop.

[@JackZucker]

@@TLDR_filmmaker ok, thanks for the reply.

[@alextab25]

I just ordered the lights and umbrella. Another person on youtube said the same thing which was to use an led light and shine it through an umbrella

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Alex! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! It's definitely more convenient! I need to experiment with more umbrella setups! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@NiVoMediaSolutions]

I can always use a light master! hahaha. such a technical thing. new sub :)

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey NiVo Media! Thank you so much for checking out this video, commenting, and subscribing! So glad to hear this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@shuccle6161]

You got a new sub! Love this so much. Perfect for my OCD and finalizing on my lighting set-up haha. Do you have a video showcasing setting up the umbrellas with the adapters, and getting these clean lighting angles? I might already find out by the time you see this maybe. Going to look through your channel now for it. XD Thanks for the great content!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Shuccle! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad you are enjoying this channel and subscribing! I do not have a specific video on the umbrella adapter itself. Its basically a light stand extension with a port for the umbrella to slot through. In terms of the angle of the light I talk about a basic approach in this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZDHpIJ7gt-ljKM Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@shuccle6161]

@@TLDR_filmmaker Nah, thank you! For the amazing content. Can't wait to see your channel grow even more my guy. You're great! And thanks, going to enjoy this video now! :D Take it easy, God bless, and take care too~

[@GtheMVP]

fantastic/informative video, thank you! For the umbrella, however, you need an adapter? ($50) so it gets far pricier than $15?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey GtheMVP! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad you enjoyed the video! As for the pricing, it looks like the umbrella prices have gone up since the recording of this video. Unfortunately no longer at the $15/led mark, but still cheaper than the official softboxes while producing softer light. Not sure if prices are going to go back down seeing the world situation at this time :( Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@christheodorou3646]

Thank you for the video. This is the exact information I was looking for.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Chris! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@sabai005]

Excellent examples, if possible can you share some photographs lighting position for bi-color 660 led. One more to keep umbrella so we need to purchase a different light stand? Do you have any link ?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Sabai! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! The lighting positions are the same as my basic youtube setup that I detail here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZDHpIJ7gt-ljKM As for the umbrella, you do not need a different light stand, you only need the adaptor that I talk about and have linked in the description. These adaptors attach to all standard cheap or expensive lightstands. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@shmikey100]

Nice video! Can I get a speedlight/umbrella adapter and then remove the hotshoe part (I guess they screw off) to reveal a screw that I can put the light stand adapter, then finally the 660 on that?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey shmikey100! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! That is a good question, I've never used a speedlight adaptor before but if you unscreen and it reveals a 1/4-20 port or a 5/8th, then yes it should work if you just buy the baby pin light stand adaptor. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@user-bx5zi1mv5t]

Great video! Would it make sense to use the provided diffusion panel and the umbrella? Or another way to put it, would that make things even softer or just make the light dimmer?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey D! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! It will technically make it softer, however I feel its not that big of a difference when using the umbrella method so I choose not to use the diffuser panel to maintain more output power. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@user-bx5zi1mv5t]

@@TLDR_filmmaker Makes perfect sense. Thanks for the response! & Likewise!

[@jbm8275]

Would you share a cheat guide on how you set up your lighting, especially on this video?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Eduwardo! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I have a full beginners tutorial where I talk about what basic lighting I do: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZDHpIJ7gt-ljKM You can skip to the lighting part. Essentially it is just basic 3-point lighting that you can find on youtube. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@BurningtunaDC]

Real nice presentation. At what point did price become "price point"?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey BurningtunaDC! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad you enjoyed the video! Hmm I'm not sure, I don't always say "price point" unless I am referring to price after I've mentioned "budget". Otherwise I will just say "Price" if I am talking about it in general. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@TheFandangovideoguy]

hi there. Sorry if my question is a bit off topic. Did you ever own some Aputure Amaran AL-528W LED panels? I wonder how much "better" would these Neewer 660 be...stronger light? better light? Just wondering. Thanks for the video...

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Erick! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I didn't have specifically the 528, I was given an HR672c for review. I did a massive comparison here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4HbeHSLfd2KmLM Based on the LUX reading of the 528W model, the Neewer 660 looks to be brighter, mainly because of the spot beam, but even so the fall off is still decently bright. For reference, based on the numbers and some math. the Neewer reads 805lux from 2ft away, the 528W would be approx 320lux from the same distance. Hope this helps.

[@TheFandangovideoguy]

@@TLDR_filmmaker hi there...how do you find the time to respond so many questions?! Thanks...I actually decided to get a Neewer NL 660 and I tested it against my old AL-528W.. since the 528 is daylight only it was brighter than the 660 of course at 100 power in DAYLIGHT colour temperature. I used my Canon 90D and a Sigma 18-35mm lens to test the lights and with the 528 on only it made my living room brighter than with the 660 in Daylight setting. The spot beam of the 660 might help a bit in some instances. The 528 throws light all over! which for weddings etc may be ok. But since I use the 528 indoors mostly, I always use a 1/2 CTO filter to convert the AL-528W from daylight to almost tungsten (don't like going all the way to 3200K), This makes the light about 4200K which is a good compromise I think and it doesnt cut the light too much. Then with the filter on I compared the output of the 528 against the 660 in tungsten and the 528 was a bit stronger hhh, but next time I will try setting the Neewer 660 to about 4500K which will have all LEDs on and roughly in the middle which perhaps will give me more output out of the 660?! I can't say if the quality CRI of the 660 is better than the AL528W. I hope so. Those aputures are older models. Dunno...honestly, the Neewer 660 is an ok light. Any videographer with 2 or 3 of those NL-660 lights could make a small set look good-but of course bargain lights are not meant for serious abuse but I like it-the remote will come in handy- and I think it will be useful. Only cost me $120 Cdn deliverd to my door so it's a bargain- I think that if I really need a stronger light I will look at the Godox ML60Bi- I like how portable it can be. That one could definitely light a podium for speeches etc- But for now I will "survive" with the Neewer 660 and 2 aputure AL528W...I'm not a pro yet. Thanks for your videos. Really hard work!

[@mikeus77]

All the softbox options for LED panels are too small it seems to me. Given the results, all of these panels should come with an umbrella bracket in the box or should be designed in a way to have it built in. It's really that essential. Great job btw!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey rifraf! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I agree, if all lights cam with an umbrella port that would be most ideal! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@WhitneyStylez]

Do you have a video showing how to set up the umbrella adapter and umbrella? I don't like how bulky the umbrella is but if that's what I need to get soft lighting for those medium shots then so be it :)

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

I do not, its pretty easy as it just attached onto the light stand and there is a opening for the umbrella rod to go through.

[@jaimetan]

Perfect! Been looking into diffusion options for my GVM 800D. Does the umbrella bracket just attach to the existing light stand? Or do you need to buy yet another light stand just for the umbrella?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Jaime! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The umbrella bracket attaches to your existing light stand, no new light stand required. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@jaimetan]

@@TLDR_filmmaker niiiice! Thanks so much for your fast response! That’s great to know 👍

[@ByronArens]

@@TLDR_filmmaker It seems like I have the older version of the Neewer 660, the one with no screen at all at the back, but the light stands does not have any umbrella bracket. I guess I need to buy a different light stand or something. Sad jaja

[@Zoomzoomvenus]

Awesome video! Exactly what i needed ❤

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

So glad the video was helpful!

[@lamadreinspirada]

Thanks! very useful!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey La Madre Inspirada! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! You're most welcome! So glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@mrshaheedmalik]

Too Long Didn't Watch.. Jk. I just started watching it. Upvoted.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again Shaheed! Haha I actually was contemplating that title back in the day, but didn't think people would understand TLDW as the acronym. I sincerely appreciate it! Catch you in the next one!

[@AaronRusch]

Thank you for this video, it's extremely helpful!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Aaron! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! You're most welcome! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@Miguelito440]

Buen video bro! Que luces recomiendas para hacer videos musicales como principiante ? Estoy pensando comprar las GVM 800D y usar la sombrilla para la difusión.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Alex La Melodia! ¡Muchas gracias por ver este video y comentar! Un panel LED de GVM y Neewer son definitivamente excelentes kits de inicio para videos o videos musicales. Para videos musicales, dependerá de cuáles sean sus necesidades, si está filmando en un área brillante o en un área oscura. En un área oscura, será bueno usar estos paneles, en un área brillante, querrá usar más iluminación natural a su alrededor. Pero si esta es tu primera luz LED para empezar a experimentar. El GVM o más reciente es un excelente punto de partida. ¡Espero que esto ayude! ¡Gracias de nuevo por pasar por aquí! ¡Mantente a salvo, saludable, y te veré en el próximo!

[@TheTrailDancer]

Any recommendations for shooting product reviews? Thoughts? I don't have very much lighting options now, bc I usually shoot outside. However, I want to film more inside now.. will be ok? should I go with Umbrella or Soft Box? Please help.. thanks!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey TheTrailDancer! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Yes, these LED's are strong enough to do product shots indoors. The Umbrella would technically be the most versatile setup. You can have the umbrella further or closer to the panel to get various levels of diffusion on the product. Of course this is all assuming the product can fit onto a standard coffee table and nothing something super huge. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@TheTrailDancer]

@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks; most of my products are outdoor / hiking products.. backpacks, stoves, shoes, clothes, etc…

[@ProductiveCo]

This was an awesome tutorial. Thank you.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Productive Co.! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@DogmannUK]

Brilliant review. I’m looking at some lighting for an online course I’m putting together. At the end you mentioned that these lights are great for a medium shot. What would you recommend for a light that can do the medium shot and some indoor full body shots at home?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey DogmannUK! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! For full body shots indoor you'll want to at minimum have a 60w COB LED. Assuming you will diffuse the 60w to lessen the harsh shadows, you may do a slight dance with your camera exposure and aperture setting to ensure you get the right exposure. If you were to get two 60w COB LED's so that you have one on each side of the camera, then that should be more than enough for an indoor full body shot. Here are the current 60w available that you can take a look at and see which is best for your needs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apCVeXd8qqeniNE Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@DogmannUK]

@@TLDR_filmmaker Hi, thanks for getting back to me. I was looking at getting the Godox either the sl60 or was considering sl150wii?? Would either of these be good? Would I then be able to use these for the fill and backlight?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

The SL150wii will be more than enough power. From there you can technically just get a 60w for the fill and another 60w for the backlight if you want a nice versatile three piece kit.

[@goodelleric]

Great video! Thoughts on whether the SMD version would do better in the softbox? We have umbrellas over some LED bulbs now and they tend to get pretty beat up in our house from the constant take down and put up. If they're still the best we'll make do, just wondering if you think the SMD will make a meaningful difference to the softbox quality.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey goodelleric! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! If we're talking about SMD vs Lensed LED panels in these smaller softboxes made for these panels. While the SMD is technically the better type of LED to use for these softboxes. Because the softboxes are small, it really doesn't make that big or a difference in your final image. If you went with the circular one you might see a little more difference, but again, it won't be night and day. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@esimon7567]

Excellent job!!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey E Simon! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad you enjoyed this video! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@monberg2000]

Perfect level of information. Thx!

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

So glad you found the follow up video from the first!

[@hackerockmedia]

Great idea and very considerate to use those settings 3:00, which give an overview for any system !! They should learn it and do the rest of the community !!! I am a user of a Panasonic G85, m4 / 3, 16Mpx .... I am tired of seeing tests with wonderful Full Frame cameras, full frame lenses f1.2, even with the Sony A7SIII and that in the tests they put the ISO at 125000. ... of course it gives good results !!! but ... can I lend you my camera? See if you get the same results?!?! XD Thanks again for your consideration.

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again Hackerockmedia! I know right? This is why all my color and luma tests on lights are still done on my Panasonic GH5, because if you know the GH5 can handle it, then any full frame can handle it. That being said, on your G85, you will want to use ISO 400 to be your baseline ISO in general. With a MFT 2.8 lens and in a controlled lighting situation, you should be fine for a close up youtube shot. Hope this further helps!

[@johnnytrayes4734]

Great detail and explanation thank you 😊

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Johnny! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@lorageproductions]

Just got the umbrellas but pondering the lights. RGB.. who is it to white balance with a bicolor light? How much power does it give out. Which gives out the most brightness?

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey again L'ORAGE! General rule, bi-color panels will usually be more powerful because you have more LED diodes per color. When you split those with extra RGB diodes, you're losing brightness. 2nd general rule, if the LEDs have "lenses" in front of it, it will artificially have more power by focusing the light. But of course this means that lighting up a diffus material will be a smaller area than a larger area (for softer light). For future reference, every light I have every tests I have all the results on TLDRfilmmaker.com so people can compare output between panels.

[@patrickhernandez7091]

Excellent video just what I needed

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Patrick! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad you got value from this video! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!

[@HangingpixelsPhotoArt]

Great content, thank you fro the review.

[@BeauHannamGuitars]

Good video- thanks

[@TLDR_filmmaker]

Hey hey Beau! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad you enjoyed the video! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!