Imagine thinking civilians or former Service Members/LEOs don’t want IR aiming lasers. It’s been a long slog but I’m happy we’re getting the market to move! Edit: I want to thank you for supporting AR15’s vids. Also, RailScales LEAF for a mounted fixed front sight option on the DBAL is good kit, imo.
@SkeezyFPV2 жыл бұрын
@Emmanuel Goldstein it's not a garbage government that we have but the people we've moronically placed in those positions. I had the rare opportunity tonight to drive a new coworker of my wife's home. He's been here about a month from zimbabwe. We had a great conversation about REAL shit governments. That dude from zimbabwe loves the United States and wants to join the airforce and I told him about my time as a Marine. For the record and to settle any and all disputes: we may bicker back and forth about who's more badass, Marines or Army but if you ask anyone from any other nation, particularly shitholes in africa and the ME they know hahahahahaha.... semper fi, gents! Homeboy felt blessed to be riding through the hood in a bigass truck with a jarhead and his belgian mal 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😎🤣
@COMMANDERHAWK222 жыл бұрын
NVGs are expensive A/F. most people wont ever need or use them.
@Rusky2313 жыл бұрын
I just run a PERST, just so I can flex on the FDA.
@SkeezyFPV3 жыл бұрын
TNVC doesn't like civvies having full power gear. We might hurt ourselves. Or the children lol 🏴
@Kypreparedness2 жыл бұрын
@@SkeezyFPV well, considering when you order a full power laser it comes direct from mfg and not from tnvc. So regardless of what tnvc approves of, the mfg won’t ship to a non-governmental entity
@leo27422 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the perst?
@breadm8101 Жыл бұрын
Nah dude it's a medical device.
@raidaz75572 ай бұрын
@@leo2742guarantee it's tacswap
@russream37322 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the education.
@TheFlea19873 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to have seen a comparison under nods. I'm split between a DBAL-D2 and a MAWL.
@practicepractice57193 жыл бұрын
I’d get the MAWL if $$$ isn’t the issue. The D2 is quite big and obtrusive. The MAWL is really nice and out of the way. FWIW
@jordant81873 жыл бұрын
Buy once cry once
@jimmyvalhalla19393 жыл бұрын
Gun thots did a comparison between the mawl, the d2 and perst 3. Inn a nut shell, they didn’t think the mawl was worth the money over the d2. The d2 is thiccc, and you can see a glow from the IR illumination led, but only if is directly pointing at you. The perst is full power, and getting it repaired may be very iffy. You cannot export it back to Russia legally so it’s a touchy situation. I’ve been thinking atpialc and running a scout vampire to give me a little more illumination since I’m gonna need a white light anyway
@tacticalenough63342 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyvalhalla1939 I run a vampire tied into a perst 4 for 1 button activation and it works great up to 150 yards. Now I want a perst 3.
@Andrewy272 жыл бұрын
Save up for MAWL. WORTH. IT.
@allenpickett5307 Жыл бұрын
So what's stopping someone from replacing the laser diode from a class 1 laser to a class 3b
@joejoeseesingtons8 ай бұрын
Good info
@Induced-Chaos3 жыл бұрын
You guys need an overhead camera so that we can see the products you're talking about a little better. That lead time on my 14's is killing me! I need it so I can go play with my ATPIAL laser lol. And some ammo.... I also need some ammo
@NapalmAtSunrise3 жыл бұрын
You didnt present the Holosun which works great besides the IR illum being worst in class and it being a wee chonky. Cant be beaten for the price value though.
@jonaspittman60593 жыл бұрын
Us poor's need to be better represented
@zalgryder64603 жыл бұрын
Asian John Lovell!
@rparker753 жыл бұрын
AH SHIT...... IT’S AUGGIE!!!
@alexscarpa7573 Жыл бұрын
Perst gang🤘🏽
@EssentialE133 жыл бұрын
Best foreign device that isn’t regulated? Other than Perst...
@timwilliamanderson2 жыл бұрын
Raid x shadow legends
@paulwitmer71382 жыл бұрын
You just provided a lot of useless information as only class ones are available to the majority of your audience I'm sure the military has informed its people about the Three B's. You need to close ups prices and unless absolutely useless. You were hard to listen to for that length of time .
@markgreen17823 жыл бұрын
Good video. Informative. Only complaint is I wish you would have showed a close up of the device's when you started talking about them individually. Keep up the good work.
@LoopyChef953 жыл бұрын
CHEEKI BREEKI I V DAMKI 🤙🤞₽₽₽ PERST GANG GANG ₽₽₽ 🍾🍾🍾🥔 btw I wasn't the one that disliked the vid lol. Good breakdown, but it would make it better if you showed a clip of the lasers through nods while talking about them.
@OFFICIALUND3 жыл бұрын
Add one to the gang, here.
@hammanvideo3 жыл бұрын
Perst gang member as well
@jamesn87503 жыл бұрын
No perst love cept those tat are loyal
@ghostedyoutuber2633 жыл бұрын
Holy sh!t, with a name like Sam Houston... He would have a cult following in Texas!!!!!!!!!!!
@Mrgunsngear3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@Greek_Man3 жыл бұрын
Νο thank you!!
@flagpatchtacticalchannel7993 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome mr gng
@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc132 жыл бұрын
I saw some Air Force special operations airmen in training using a laser that literally looked like something out of science fiction. It was insanely bright and looked unreal.
@ZucIsCuk2 жыл бұрын
thank you for your cervix
@JR_ST Жыл бұрын
Was it an NGAL?
@KoljaMineralka Жыл бұрын
Yep...Petco Blue from Dollarama
@pounc3r7828 ай бұрын
IZLID?
@VIPK93 жыл бұрын
The FDA allows class 4 lasers as long as they have safety features to prevent going to full power by accident wicked and sanwu lasers sell 7 watt lasers the world's strongest handheld pointer for $200 -400, The firearms Industry has been lacking when it comes to lasers
@byrdentertainment77653 жыл бұрын
Because they’re visible lasers, but they don’t allow Class 3 IR lasers due to them being labeled as a regulated medical device. But yes you’re right you are able to go buy a class 4 visible laser.
@Heywoodthepeckerwood3 жыл бұрын
Not IR lasers. Only visible.
@VIPK93 жыл бұрын
Guys look into this 1W IR handheld laser called "IRX7" it comes with a FDA certification because it requires a key to activate full power, we need something like this for guns.
@VIPK92 жыл бұрын
@Emmanuel Goldstein I need that hard to find plug for the wilcox raptor to hack it. my buddy had his flashed and unlocked to full power, but the company who was doing those services got sued. He also had a mawl X1 that was flashed to class 1 low power only by BE meyers so it's possible with mawls.
@nyballer313 жыл бұрын
Surprised BE Meyers is the only one to get in the civilian game with next gen lasers, also surprised Steiner hasn't worked on a smaller varient of the D2.I know other priorities exist like Military contracts but one thing is for sure there is a very high demand for these type of devices no matter the cost.
@paolosulit44413 жыл бұрын
L3, wilcox, and others know that there is a market for these lasers, they just probably don't care.
@corruptionoutdoors3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure they can make money doing a civi based laser but do they want to do the support side when a 1000 people have nit pick issues.
@utvwerxoffroadfabdesign41723 жыл бұрын
@@paolosulit4441 Wilcox has class 1 powered RAIDs available. You are correct with L3Harris however in that they truly just don’t care about the civilian market and love to war profiteer with Uncle Sam with this never ending conflict in the Middle East. We just about had to go on strike to get them to release PVS-31’s and PANO-18’s to the commercial market. I’m not sure why they were so hesitant but I truly believe that night vision isn’t such a special niche market anymore.
@sethhughes21632 жыл бұрын
+/- .... pretty close.
@dezcuts53192 жыл бұрын
@@utvwerxoffroadfabdesign4172 it’s not that they don’t simply care. It’s one of those things our corrupt govt does to undermine 2A and keep the population at a disadvantage.
@jimmyvalhalla19393 жыл бұрын
Steiner needs to update the D2 with a much smaller illuminator with a 950nm led. The D2 is great for a civ device, but it’s just too big and heavy
@marky39043 жыл бұрын
Perst gang
@RomanCatholic0013 жыл бұрын
Influencers won't promote the perst products until zentico pays them to.
@lnaesll3 жыл бұрын
@@RomanCatholic001 no they just don’t give a shit about supporting Russia.
@quatre033 жыл бұрын
on the Day the Gen 3 drops too.
@F1shifty503 жыл бұрын
Support Russia and send your money over seas Gang.
@RomanCatholic0013 жыл бұрын
@@lnaesll with all the support you give to China, a few thousand dollars to Russia won't matter.
@joemccarthy61813 жыл бұрын
Need more light. So we can see them too dark background
@OFFICIALUND3 жыл бұрын
Put on your NODS and you can see them just fine. It's like having a secret decoder ring. LOL
@LoopyChef953 жыл бұрын
@@OFFICIALUND You might even get a blem ring on your nods doing that ROFL
@Ballista7622 жыл бұрын
I don't want class 1. I want 3B.
@rshinn87762 жыл бұрын
For led IR illuminaters does more mW = more better?
@joeguerra83773 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do a video on TNVC TORCH PRO MK.III INFRARED ILLUMINATOR please
@Prepper_Raider8 ай бұрын
Funny how the U.S controls power levels like this such as the FDA and yet I can go online right now and purchase a laser that has a much more powerful output.
@robertalford13213 жыл бұрын
Man on the right looks like he wants to kick something's ass. I understand. Lol. Great video, thx for the info, gentlemen.
@harrybalzonya11733 жыл бұрын
Lol
@sethhughes21632 жыл бұрын
Good bits of solid info, thank both of you gentlemen for stepping up... and out! KUDO'S, Seth
@Clockwork0nions3 жыл бұрын
>not including the PERST my sides.
@kingboom7772 жыл бұрын
Give me Class 3 or give me death no step on snek.
@zackyd666 Жыл бұрын
So what paperwork is needed to buy a Class IIIB laser without being part of the government? (There is no law that says they are GOV/LEO only devices)
@zokhrozzWoomzy11 ай бұрын
buy it from a secondhand marketplace
@bluffcityquietpills Жыл бұрын
Great info in the video. Long story short is buy a MAWL C1+ lol
@jetburrito5205 Жыл бұрын
Or buy an NGAL
@bluffcityquietpills Жыл бұрын
@@jetburrito5205 damn you FDA!
@jetburrito5205 Жыл бұрын
@@bluffcityquietpills just go to tacswap decent amount of full powered lasers there. they just happen to be real expensive
@septor-og6hi3 жыл бұрын
I almost need night vision to watch this video lol can hardly see you.
@nomad54543 жыл бұрын
mawl is not worth it for the price you can spend 1/3 or half that on different laser n illumination options
@ihatejorgesosa19533 жыл бұрын
one day i'll have my atpailc from yall
@SkeezyFPV2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video, gents. Thanks for the knowledge. I still dont understand the alien voodoo magic thats going on in my tubes but i sure can see good with them lol. Merry Christmas to the tnvc team 🎅🏴
@J.J.1613 жыл бұрын
Tape a construction laser to your rifle lol
@jasonbolin70252 жыл бұрын
Excellent video guys. I learned more watching this than I've ever cobbled together on my own.
@bradleychilders21353 жыл бұрын
Flannel guy awesome...could have done without sign language guy all together.
@tomharper8351 Жыл бұрын
LA5 & fp peq 15
@paperstreetsoapmilieubluez61023 жыл бұрын
Can someone using NV see your lazer?
@matthewrezuke81303 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@craigcrissman46512 жыл бұрын
Yes 100%
@Archangel08042 жыл бұрын
Everyone can
@Tiger800xr2 жыл бұрын
NO PRICES?? ONE CAN not choose or compare property. Without prices of the units. Christopher nyc
@randallchuck63763 жыл бұрын
Good information. Thank you.
@FirearmEnthusiast3 жыл бұрын
SureFire XVL2 IRC
@NoQuarters3 жыл бұрын
Bonus vShott footage 😉 awesome job guys appreciate the content!
@maxkuker18782 жыл бұрын
Just buy a legally acquired FP laser and flex on the FDA
@cshrade773 жыл бұрын
Love the vid, very informative, thanks
@FlextheJuvat3 жыл бұрын
Your rich uncle just showed up. He can legally buy anything he wants. He offers to buy you one. Which one do you pick? In other words, if money was no object and you had no restrictions, which one do you get????
@craigcrissman46512 жыл бұрын
NAGL
@Epiphalactic2 жыл бұрын
So many regulations. Garbage 🗑️
@ngamshim Жыл бұрын
👍
@juansimon58022 жыл бұрын
u guys got them to make civi quad nods too.
@Allegro_Giusto3 жыл бұрын
Does the NGAL have an option for green laser at purchase?
@bones1x2853 жыл бұрын
Sam, you look good with a beard. Grow it out some.
@asianboyyy1173 жыл бұрын
Didn't even know I was subscribed
@trundelingporpoise24043 жыл бұрын
I was at a training event where the D2 illuminator got a teammate kilt in da streetz. FOF event, "bad guy" (with no nods) is hiding in thick brush, guy with D2 activates his unit to search for the target, doesnt get a positive fix on location, but "bad guy" saw the red glow from the illuminator and was able to quickly eliminate the "good guy"
@Lifechanging999992 жыл бұрын
Your friend lacked light discipline.
@ComedyAintPretty2 жыл бұрын
That's an argument to use a handheld illuminator instead of the one on your carbine unless you have actually identified a target. Then you turn the illuminator on, scan, turn off, move. Turn illuminator on, scan, turn off, move.
@LoneStarHomestead3 Жыл бұрын
Why do people buy these over priced gadgets ????? The warranty is also non existent. Keep throwing your $$$$ away guys
@santanagamingcinema3 жыл бұрын
Is there an ir laser that can handle the recoil of the Scar 17?
@nikanor81523 жыл бұрын
Yes. Most full power "mil/le" lasers should be fine but I wouldn't use a Perst, Holosun or other lower end laser. There's also a Navsea marked LA5 specifically meant for the Mk17
@santanagamingcinema3 жыл бұрын
@@nikanor8152 i actually have broken a Atpial C/peq15 on the Scar and I cant get my hands on the LA5 NAVSEA Peq as I dont have access as I'm not LE or military. I have been trying for a while.
@NattyGuy3 жыл бұрын
Only LA5D NAVSEA units are SCAR rated. Not even MAWL, NGAL, RAID can handle it. NAVSEA units have a unique laser engraved logo on the underside, a chunkier battery cap and reverse battery orientation.
@santanagamingcinema3 жыл бұрын
@@NattyGuy pretty much what I feared. I wasn't sure about the NGAL. I knew that they broke MAWLS though. Alright, thanks for the information bro.
@NattyGuy3 жыл бұрын
@@santanagamingcinema no worries man but its simple; sell the SCAR and get an SR25.
@jpk9171jpk3 жыл бұрын
So from what I’ve learned here and other places is that basically you have the D2 as an entry level laser and the mawl is the best you can buy. everything else isn’t even worth buying.
@project86xero3 жыл бұрын
Maybe but I see a lot of guys, me included, running the Steiner Otal C and the surefire m600 vampire. I personally use the dual switch cap on the surefire and a pressure pad that activates the light and the laser at the same time. Then if I need to use the light or laser individualy I use the controls on the units themselves. Personally i like having the ability to switch the light from visible to ir. The only downside is the lack of a visible laser for zeroing.
@BobBob-il2ku3 жыл бұрын
And it’s very slow to transition to white light
@jpk9171jpk3 жыл бұрын
@@project86xero this is great info. I’m trying to get into night vision but without any friends that have it to try out it’s so confusing. Just in Pvs-14’s there is like 20 levels quality and features to pick from. Haha for being such a niche market there are a ton of options but basically zero places you can go to try this stuff out before you buy it.
@project86xero3 жыл бұрын
@@BobBob-il2ku I prefer that. Don't want my white light going off while I'm doing night time spooky pews.
@project86xero3 жыл бұрын
@@jpk9171jpk Yeah. My advice buy a mid level white phosphor pvs14. Then get a good helmet rig and try hiking with it at night. Shooting under night vision is easy. It's walking around and manipulating your gun that's tough. If you don't have a good since of direction and distance your going to run into stuff. An if you can't diagnose and clear malfunctions without looking at your gun your gonna have a bad time.
@7sq2 жыл бұрын
Use video ,not hand waving .
@7sq2 жыл бұрын
SHOW ME THE DIFFERENCE !!!
@tf2013 жыл бұрын
How does non LEO acquire a NGAL?
@SkeezyFPV3 жыл бұрын
By ambushing someone that has an ngal duh.... 😎🏴
@craigcrissman46512 жыл бұрын
The secret ingredient is crime
@SkeezyFPV2 жыл бұрын
@Emmanuel Goldstein where I live in NY the police and sheriff's dept. don't have access to nods let alone anything near as cool as an ngal. We let border patrol use the range at our gun club to train for a week back in october. CPB and ICE have ALL the toys. I'm a few miles from the border in Niagara Falls. They have an easy job here. They just treat americans like dicks on the way back from canada lmao. They seriously act like they might not let you back every fucking time hahaha
@SkeezyFPV2 жыл бұрын
OP, take a look at the russian perst 3 and save you money for ammo. You'll get 90% of the performance for a significantly lower percentage of price and not have to worry about having a hot unit.
@perlenbacher67883 жыл бұрын
No Ngal?
@atacorion3 жыл бұрын
Its on the table
@Cogzed3 жыл бұрын
When did Channing Tatum start to go grey?! Just for Men Tatum... Just for men.
@jakehorwitz59453 жыл бұрын
Among these IR which brand has no red glow when look directly? I.E. completely invisible to the naked eye?
@mikef56942 жыл бұрын
None. They will all have some glow.
@scottt51813 жыл бұрын
One day I’ll have a mawl... But not this day
@lukeflaugher53343 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and appreciate the free content!!
@Archangel08042 жыл бұрын
So in summary, you have to spend $3500 for a MAWL C1 in order to get a decent IR illuminator with laser combo. Thanks a lot Brandon.
@nycdrummer233 жыл бұрын
Worrying about eye safety when it’s going on a weapon that’s lethal. 🤔thanks for the video.
@thegeth42933 жыл бұрын
you'll still be using it for training
@LoopyChef953 жыл бұрын
The full power IR lasers can seriously damage your eyes instantly. You also have to worry about reflecting off a surface and hitting you or your buddies in the eyes.
@nycdrummer233 жыл бұрын
I get the fact that it can cause blindness but just like we can manage a rifle and a handgun That can kill you or your buddy instantly indicates we can manage a laser. I don’t know 🤷🏻♂️ about you but death 💀 is a little more severe than blindness. That’s all I’m saying and treating them more harshly than firearms is in my opinion ridiculous but it is what it is.
@Heywoodthepeckerwood3 жыл бұрын
@@nycdrummer23 the problem is most people wouldn’t even know it was on and this very dangerous to the eyeball.
@SkeezyFPV3 жыл бұрын
@@nycdrummer23 no shit lol.
@jacobkasper46633 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t TNVC promote the “TNVC triad” IR laser/ illuminator very much? I have one and it’s a great laser. As good if not better than that peq 15 and beats a few of the dbals easily. Adjustable illuminator and the laser is powerful enough to shoot out a few hundred meters in my experience. And for the price it’s hard to beat.
@Rykeron2 жыл бұрын
I want laser illumination for minimal visible signature and great illumination. MAWL C1+ is looking like the only buy once cry once option
@Lifechanging999993 жыл бұрын
Just curious, why wasn’t the peq16 mentioned?
@garrettnalle69493 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda rare and frankly irrelevant especially in the civilian market ig
@AnAmazingTruthseeker3 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from you guys. And I wanted to know if you will make a video about the pros and cons of pvs7 vs pvs14 or etc? Thanks
@LukewarmHotdogWater3 жыл бұрын
the 14 is better than the 7 in every way
@atacorion3 жыл бұрын
I made one already as Jon Dufresne and I made another one together on his youtube channel
@xefitnop2 жыл бұрын
I see no practical use for a PVs-7 other than maybe hobby related stuff….stargazing, maybe stationary viewing…I had to drive with them in the military and the depth perception sucked. 14’s are where it’s at imo for entry level. I still can’t afford one tho…