To DrDerrickColon & randee4550: Time to hold another L on that, "roots of Rocking" debate!

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[@hiphophistorian5476]

To DrDerrickColon & randee4550: Time to hold another L on that, "roots of Rocking" debate! streamable.com/xdxwe9

[@kait4414]

keepin your foot on they necks! I love it

[@fastpaced4861]

these guys don't give up, no matter how many facts you present

[@renelarock5331]

Would you happen to have any info on the early graph writer Hugo Martinez who organized the United Graph Writers (UGA) in 1972 that openly discriminated and excluded Black graph writers from joining the organization? Seems as though they have been overtly racist a long time. “Martinez was widely accused of racism because he didn't allow blacks into UGA. "Three or four members did not want to accept blacks," Martinez said later. I tried to manipulate votes and put pressure on certain inviduals to bring them into the group." Within a few months the Bronx writers were admitted, but some felt they were being accorded second-class status. "I think he favored the Puerto Ricans, said Lee 163d.” Source: Hagar (1984)

[@hiphophistorian5476]

let me see.....

[@renelarock5331]

@@hiphophistorian5476FYI: Starz just gave Fat Joe a hip hop series called “Fat Joe talks” They’re definitely on a erasure campaign

[@hiphophistorian5476]

@@renelarock5331 probably just more Fat Joe "hood tales" lol

[@renelarock5331]

@@hiphophistorian5476 lol, I also wanted to ask you if Phase2 is credited officially with “uprock” He claims that he invented this Bboy technique “Uprock -- which I call battle rocking -- was some shit that my dance crew invented, and it spread. Now you got cats from Brooklyn claiming they invented it, but the truth is that it was just a few of us, and we kept it to ourselves for a long time. The way we did it, it was synchronized between the two dancers.” (Adam Mansbach)

[@hiphophistorian5476]

@@renelarock5331 Nah, I don't think he's been credited as the originator of "Uprock" or "Burning" but I did read/see that claim by him!

[@dryinkdryink675]

Anybody seen his doc ?

[@ColdNegro]

Yes and it proved nothing

[@wompwomp3478]

I tried to watch it... honestly I could only get about a quarter through it before cutting it off..poorly made,no sources,seemed at times that the background music was almost as loud as the person speaking lol I honestly expected better 😂

[@hiphophistorian5476]

I looked at it. Just a lot of reaching, half truths and no real new revelations. Pretty much stuff that's easily debunked and has already, largely been debunked.

[@hiphophistorian5476]

@@wompwomp3478 You're 100% correct in how you described it!

[@wompwomp3478]

@@hiphophistorian5476 I think I cut it off around the time where Adrina was explaining something about how " bomba and hip hop are so similar because they both come out of the mixing of African and Tiano Indian cultures "🧫🤣🤣🤦