To Float, Or Not To Float, Strats The Question - Ask Zac 177

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8 ай бұрын

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Today I look at my 2 favorite options for Strat tremolo setup, fully floating, or deck it and removing the bar. Also, we look at some handy tips for helping you stay in tune when floating the bridge, adjusting the string break angle at the headstock, using low-tension Raw Vintage springs, recommended string gauges, and lubing the nut slots and string tree.
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Gear used:
2023 Headstrong Lil' King with 12" Eminence GA-SC64 speaker
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1955 Stratocaster built by my old college buddy, B. Paisley, using a mix of old and new parts. Ron Ellis 50/60 middle and neck, Duncan Twang banger in the bridge.
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Strings:
D'Addario NYXL 10-46
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Pick:
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@magnushedqvist2245
@magnushedqvist2245 8 ай бұрын
I used to have it floated. Always stayed in tune. Now however I have all my strats set flush to the body and 5 springs. I think it sounds better and you don't have to worry about going out of tune if you break a string midsong. Love your show 👍😀
@cadams1607
@cadams1607 8 ай бұрын
After 25 years of being decked I decided to give floating a go. After a quarter century of playing and mucking around with guitars you learn where the tuning instabilities really come from. I will never go back as i love the shimmer of the floating bridge. Bend double stops are not as negatively affected as i was lead to believe
@AskZac
@AskZac 8 ай бұрын
Rock on!
@StephenSpelman
@StephenSpelman 8 ай бұрын
After decades of playing my '68 hardtail, when I got my Custom Shop '59 Strat, I wound up taking out the springs altogether and blocking the bridge with a plastic bag full of quarters. Works and sounds great
@Les537
@Les537 8 ай бұрын
You can swap out tuners for those staggered fender tuners that have lower poles on the thin strings and it will allow you to bypass the string tree for one less friction point.
@ACOUSTITRON-mp6tc
@ACOUSTITRON-mp6tc Ай бұрын
Eric Johnson Strat…
@fivewattworld
@fivewattworld 8 ай бұрын
The Tele guy on Strats! I love it. Beautiful guitar btw.
@AskZac
@AskZac 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, Keith
@ryangunwitch-black
@ryangunwitch-black 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been saving this one for a few days and I love Strats so get ready for a big long comment! Also! The Cloud City reference is indicative of why I’m subscribed!
@johnw4659
@johnw4659 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, Zac. Lots of good information for us Stratocaster players that I hadn't heard before. Well done.
@allenmitchell09
@allenmitchell09 8 ай бұрын
I thought I wanted a strat until I finally played one a couple of weeks ago at GC. I had all these ideas for using the trem bar. I have some physical limitations and wasn’t able to use it like I was thinking. Back to my tele!
@KeithMcConchie
@KeithMcConchie 8 ай бұрын
Used to deck 'em, now I float 'em. I don't use the tremolo often, but they almost never slip out of tune, even if I do.
@brazilgrass
@brazilgrass 8 ай бұрын
I've been USING my tremolo decked for decades. with no issues. Well installed strings, well shaped and lubed nut and that's it.
@angryshoebox
@angryshoebox 8 ай бұрын
i always deck mine, no block of wood, I just tighten the spring claw until the bridge lays flat against the body when the strings are at pitch.
@timnewman1172
@timnewman1172 8 ай бұрын
My first real Strat was a Korean Squier II with a brass bridge but missing the trem arm... I took it in to get set up and we "decked" the bridge which I prefer to this day... the combination of the heavy bridge and tension on the springs makes it sustain in a way I like. It taught me to love Fenders and is still one of the best playing guitars I own!
@jaymichaels5187
@jaymichaels5187 8 ай бұрын
I block the trem with a piece of wood. The trem adds a certain good resonant sound that you do not get with a hardtail.
@handle433
@handle433 8 ай бұрын
This is why Clapton never went hardtail on his main Stratocaster, despite always blocking the trem!
@wt42ds
@wt42ds 7 ай бұрын
I decked my strat a few years ago and never looked back but after watching this I’m considering floating it. Like many others I experienced tuning issues which is why I decked it. I purchased the book you recommended! Can’t wait to implement the tips into my routine. As always, I greatly appreciate your videos!
@bobhewitt5047
@bobhewitt5047 8 ай бұрын
Such a great common sense video Zac … I adopted the same approach 40 years ago - never had a problem with a ‘low float’ … just right for a Strat. Raw Vintage springs too👍🏻 They make a difference.
@diegomendivil7101
@diegomendivil7101 8 ай бұрын
I float , tuning is incredibly stable and even after a big bend a small pull or tug on the arms brings it right back. For a hardtail sound I have a Tele,.
@murrayguitarpickups9545
@murrayguitarpickups9545 8 ай бұрын
I do the same, Strats are for floatin' Teles have the hardtail option covered
@chrislestermusic
@chrislestermusic 8 ай бұрын
Vegatrems are pretty amazing and non invasive.
@ryanenlow2687
@ryanenlow2687 8 ай бұрын
Zac is a fantastic influencer and ambassador for our wonderful pastime... all solid and usable advice.
@AskZac
@AskZac 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@ryanenlow2687
@ryanenlow2687 7 ай бұрын
KEEP ON DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING MAN!!!@@AskZac
@Guitar5986
@Guitar5986 7 ай бұрын
I'm not really a strat guy but I have to say...that is one beautiful guitar! The back especially is just lovely
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 8 ай бұрын
I always deck the bridge. I would have preferred a hardtail.
@macauley70
@macauley70 8 ай бұрын
with hardtail loses the subtle and carateristic natural reverb of springs cavity
@george6520
@george6520 8 ай бұрын
I have 2 Strats…one standard tuning…one in E flat…both stung with 10’s. Both are floating and are setup like Jeff Beck…pulling up on the trem gives you a full tone on the high E. With a nut cut properly and some graphite in the slots they stay in tune really well. I’m certainly no Jeff Beck but this system works well for me. Also replaced the Fender string tree with an aftermarket roller type that I put a tiny amount of Vaseline on. After a big pull up or dive just smack the whammy bar again and it comes right back.
@TommySG1
@TommySG1 8 ай бұрын
Hi ya Zac, I totally agree with your thinking on the Strat set ups. I have three of them here and they all float, I set the bridge height to like 1/8th on an inch although I never actually measure… after a while you just know by eye 🤙
@FlyJohnny100
@FlyJohnny100 8 ай бұрын
This is great...Strat is my main guitar; I bend hard and constantly, had trouble with floating whammy, but never been happy with blocked whammy. Been doing more twangy stuff lately and planning on unblocking to use the bar, and getting a Tele for non-whammy material...a ton of relevant stuff I've wondered about here, like string gauge (I typically use 10 E). Thanks, Zac!!
@cuellar23
@cuellar23 8 ай бұрын
That is one gorgeous Strat, sir.
@dahag2996
@dahag2996 8 ай бұрын
I'm more a Tele guy and have always had trouble on my Strat with unison bends going out of tune. Mostly just like the Strat neck PUP. So I de-Stratted my Strat by blocking the trem, pulling the middle PUP. Popping a strat-sized Broadcaster PUP (metal baseplate and all) in the bridge position and wired it with 4-way Tele wiring. It doesn't sound exactly like a Tele or Strat. But its a fun guitar with some interesting tones not found in a standard Tele or Strat. But my Tele is still my No. 1.
@daveydacusguitars9033
@daveydacusguitars9033 2 ай бұрын
I have always "decked" the bridge on my strats. Except the term I was taught was "locked it down" Being a massive SRV fan I was seeking a setup that would help me accomplish that sound and those licks, and it's essential for playing that style in my opinion. The blues strat type thing. When floating, you have to bend a string much farther to achieve the pitch you are looking for. As you bend you are pulling the bridge and lowering the pitch... requiring even more bend which lowers the pitch again as the springs give... it just doesn't work well. And if it's set up to float it really should not be played in that manner. For a blues set up, and a style of playing one bend after another with lots of vibrato on the left hand I'd say you pretty much have to plant the bridge on the body. That way you can quickly and efficiently get to pitch without extra movement on the left hand, release that note and move on and get the next bend to pitch. It's important to note, a bigger string has to be deflected less to reach pitch also. I can, however, appreciate the sounds that can be found with a floating bridge. After watching this I think I may convert one of my more disused strat type guitars to a floating set up just to see what can happen. It can be fun to go outside of your comfort zone and play a different way. I'll also add that I've always thought the springs in the back add to a strats sound. I've always kept 5 in just to have the extra vibration. If it's a real thing or in my head I don't know but I like to have them there haha Glad to find your channel I'm enjoying the content!
@marklott2927
@marklott2927 8 ай бұрын
Floating is the whole point of it.
@evertthebassist
@evertthebassist 8 ай бұрын
Agreed
@paulwalter7294
@paulwalter7294 8 ай бұрын
Yeah and No. Both is cool
@evertthebassist
@evertthebassist 8 ай бұрын
@@paulwalter7294 I prefer floating mine, but anyone's free to do whatever they want with their own haha. I really dig hardtails more than a blocked off trem, but that's probably just me
@lexbro
@lexbro 8 ай бұрын
Why own a regular strat if you’re going to deck it? Just get a hard tail
@Arthur_My_Dear
@Arthur_My_Dear 8 ай бұрын
@@lexbronot many around and *much* less choice
@user-wv5nv7dz3q
@user-wv5nv7dz3q 8 ай бұрын
Hello, thanks for the tutorial. Be aware that a Stratocaster scale length shortens a fraction when the tremolo goes forward, and your string action raises higher also, so keep in mind you should be lowering your action after floating...I'm okay with this since in standard tuning (440) the 25.50 scale length can make the tension pretty tight to the fingers if you bend notes. Either Decked or floating has its advantages, having 2 different stratocaster guitars each set up differently be ideal. All of us should also know when using 3 springs they should be straight NOT in a pyramid or pointed configuration...if they are parallel the tension is even making tuning much more stable.
@realadamnixon
@realadamnixon 8 ай бұрын
Another informative show Zac. Oh, and thanks for mentioning El Tapatio #2 previously. My girlfriend and I just got back from Nashville and the tacos were awesome there!
@BlackMarketYoga
@BlackMarketYoga 8 ай бұрын
I deck and use the bar but, only lightly or at the end of a song when I know I have a moment to hit a tuner. Also use 10s and pencil led. Thank you cool episode! As always...
@user-qr7ee2cp4y
@user-qr7ee2cp4y 3 ай бұрын
Floating trem introduces so many issues. I prefer a dive only, but I will keep one floating floyd
@muddymike10
@muddymike10 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Zac; I always finish your post's more informed. Another Paul Johnson recording/CD worth searching for is "The Duo-tones: Surf Music unplugged". Mr. Johnson & Gil Orr (The Chantays) perform classic Surf & Pop tunes on two acoustic guitars; no Drums or Bass accompaniment. Wonderful & intimate music results...
@sergemoreillon1236
@sergemoreillon1236 6 ай бұрын
Great learning smiling! Top ! Thank you Zac !
@THEItchybruddah
@THEItchybruddah 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip on the Xotic springs. Currently a floater with 3 springs… seems to behave very well. Mind you, I’m only going for the shimmer/wobble thing on the Fenders. As ALWAYS, thanks for the time you share and the insights. Much obliged Maestro.
@AskZac
@AskZac 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@COLDMKULTRA
@COLDMKULTRA 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful guitar and great advice Man ... Thank You 👍👍
@AskZac
@AskZac 8 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@user-wv5nv7dz3q
@user-wv5nv7dz3q 8 ай бұрын
EVH had a fender trem on the black and white striped strat with 3 springs.
@gregmize01
@gregmize01 8 ай бұрын
Never did I expect a Cloud City reference in a Ask Zac vid! 🎸
@user-qd9mm5mt4i
@user-qd9mm5mt4i 8 ай бұрын
I had my Strats floating for decades until about a month again, trying something different by not using the trem-arm. Not floating them seems to help with tuning.
@denAlexVA
@denAlexVA 8 ай бұрын
50 years ago when I purchased a 54' Strat, I blocked the tremolo. 48 years ago when I bot a 58" I didn't. Fortunate enough to still have these guitars in my collection. Hardtails used to bring more bucks in the market (early 70's) Now they don't. I think that Jeff Beck had alot to do with this. He knew how to use the vibrato, whereas Clapton did not. I do not use a bar for vibrato , prefer my palm. Thanks for the video.
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Clapton could figure out how to use the trem. LOL!
@user-hk3zz6qw1c
@user-hk3zz6qw1c 8 ай бұрын
Definitely to float; I actually have a Fender Stratocaster style Starcaster guitar that initially belonged to 1 of my nephews until December 25th, 2013 when he handed it to me as a Christmas present: it’s a HSS with a floating tremolo bar, just as Mr Leo Fender himself intended it to be played & used 💝 🎁 🤶 🎅 🎄 🎸 💯 👍
@ebeep
@ebeep 8 ай бұрын
Carl Verheyen. There are 2 clips on KZbin, the more recent contains the more detailed info. He has this all sorted. Floating bridge. Angled claw so that tension is balanced. 0.009s! 3 SPRINGS. I swear my Strats stay in tune better than any guitar I've ever had because of Carl's setup instructions. I can play an entire set without tuning, put it in the case, and it's still PERFECTLY in tune when I get home. I use the trem relentlessly a la The Shadows or James Wilsey and tuning stability is gloriously unwavering. I am an absolute stickler for tuning and went so far as to do my own extensive pedal tuner shootout as I am quite particular about tuner precision and the tuner's ability to not only arrive at correct pitch per string, but the UI also affects the the guitar's ability to be in tune with itself, as in string harmony, a whole other topic, lol. I use to have to obsessively tune between each song, or at least every given opportunity. No more. Trem springs are available in different tensions. I use the light tension so that the trem arm is super responsive with a light touch. I am so completely happy with my Strat setups. I don't use nut lubricant because I find it sucks tone. Ymmv.
@ginoames
@ginoames 8 ай бұрын
I use four of the black Fender springs with 9-46 D'Addario strings. The black ones have a softer tension. They match up well with the 9-46 strings. I do have it float as I like to shake chords and single notes.
@GoldtopDude
@GoldtopDude 8 ай бұрын
Great video, I have always floated my stats, much like you, just a little pullback However, I have in some cases added Vintage style, locking gears to reduce backlash Which, of course just a little quick tug can take care of that many times as well Thanks again,
@aminahmed2220
@aminahmed2220 8 ай бұрын
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day zac 😊❤ also another hobby I enjoy is watching your videos also drawing
@AskZac
@AskZac 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
@kylecravens6501
@kylecravens6501 7 ай бұрын
I had been a decked player for a long time but bought a Strat that was owned by Mike Landau. Floating. Now I get it! I feel like I missed the whole vibe of Strats for years. So yes to floating
@StevenPD
@StevenPD 8 ай бұрын
Great post. The fact a strat can do both speaks to its versatility. Great if you’re on a budget. If I could afford to I’d go with a Malmsteen strat and a mason tele. That’s just me.
@stevehorvath5855
@stevehorvath5855 8 ай бұрын
I had my Strat blocked for a long time until I had a refret on it. I had just seen Marc Cohn at a small venue with Shane Fontayne on Strat and a Taylor acoustic backing Marc. His Strat sounded great and he used the trem bar subtly and I loved it. I asked the tech who did the work on my refret( a local tech named Steve Soest) to set up the trem for a mild float, and when I got it back I've never looked back! It stayed in tune and added a whole new dimension to my playing. On another note, re your book nook segment, have you ever read the book, "Between the Strings; the Secret Lives of Guitars' by John Schroeter? He approached about 95 guitarists and 5 builders to write a short story on their relationship with their instrument. When I read it, I bought ten of them and handed them out to my guitar playing friends. It is out of print but can still be found online - check it out!
@bryancollins6796
@bryancollins6796 8 ай бұрын
I've got one set up to float and a second not to. 3 Springs on the active trem. Works well with 9 - 46 strings. Never more than 2 winds on the E and A posts. Use a bit of lub on the nut and you're good.
@kevinkey7241
@kevinkey7241 8 ай бұрын
I’ve always set up my Strats almost decked w 3 springs, it stays in tune when you do bends and allows for a bit of tremolo. A perfectly cut nut is key though. I also have a strat with a Tremsetter in place of the center spring. As always, I suggest trying different setups and find what works for you
@hoagyguitarmichael
@hoagyguitarmichael 8 ай бұрын
Great episode. For viewers who don't want to buy low tension springs, I recommend the three spring triangle method. One down the middle and the other two at each far end of the bridge narrowing to the three center clips on the law. I float for a whole step up on the G and a half step on the B and E. This allows some cool suspension steel tricks on the G and B or the G and E.
@AskZac
@AskZac 8 ай бұрын
Great tip!
@nazmoking3171
@nazmoking3171 8 ай бұрын
I have you do not want to run the springs diagonal like that on the 2 outer springs. Basically you render your center spring useless when you do that. Instead run all your springs parallel for even tension. The softer springs run about $20/set. Spend the money and be happy with your tremolo (try them and you'll see).
@hoagyguitarmichael
@hoagyguitarmichael 8 ай бұрын
I have been running them like that for 30 years and it works great for me.@@nazmoking3171
@handle433
@handle433 8 ай бұрын
Used to always float, but I went through a phase of constantly breaking strings on my Clapton Stratocasters so I decked them. No wooden block like they came, just cranked down the bridge. Whenever I break a string it’ll stay in tune until the end of the song and I can change to the second one!
@theryanthiggins
@theryanthiggins 8 ай бұрын
Hey Zac, you didn't really emphasize it but the soldered ball ends on the D'Addario NYXL's also help with the tuning stability. I've actually had the ball end come unwound on the high E on unsoldered ball ends. That's a fun one in the middle of a gig when the high just keeps going flat until it eventually lets loose!
@chrislestermusic
@chrislestermusic 8 ай бұрын
I bought a replacement set of high E strings and every ball end become unwound. It’s been happening with more and more strings.
@kellygotell1179
@kellygotell1179 2 ай бұрын
Another nice video thanks Zac
@AskZac
@AskZac 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jeffmcleod2855
@jeffmcleod2855 8 ай бұрын
On my main Strat - it is essentially decked allowing just down bends with the bar but it still useful and I don’t go crazy with it so tuning is not an issue. I have one Strat tuned to D standard and it is floating too. I have to play it differently but it is nice too, but not my main thing. I also have 2 hardtail Strats.
@gerardange
@gerardange 3 ай бұрын
I have been floating my Strat for 13 years… Scott Henderson taught me some good tricks! oval out your 6 screw holes…so there is no binding with rough tight edges!!! Very important!!!! I also only use 3 springs… and also added some foam to deaden to verb effect in the springs! I additionally I upgraded the Saddles first to “ Roller Saddles”… but those failed after a year 😕and after that I went to a composite Graph Tech saddle for the last 9 years. 👍👍👍!!! With the float setup correctly 90 % of the time it stays in tune but if it goes a bit out just pluck the vibrato bar a few times and it magically comes all back in tune!!!! The only issue is that intonation on a Full-float… is The#6 Low E saddle and the #3 G saddle I had to remove 1/8 “ from the rear of both saddles with a file and also cut the spring 50% in both Saddles to get my intonation on those strings. I am using 10-46 Maxima Gold strings with the string tree removed and a bone nut. I did buy a Roller-Nut but never installed it… because that is a lot of serous cutting to the neck that could ruin the neck permanently… so it seems to all work perfectly with the bone nut no issues!!!! Cheers Gerard
@memorylossreversal
@memorylossreversal 7 ай бұрын
Great vid. Thanks
@AskZac
@AskZac 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@michaelbuchanan3212
@michaelbuchanan3212 8 ай бұрын
Well, I want to thank you for what you do. So informative and on point. I'm no great shake on guitar, but I've got dreams of improving and being a better guitarist at my age... 59.in fact I was so intrigued by your comments on, "String Theories" by Adam Levy and Ethan Sherman, I bought a copy for myself... Thank you Zac.
@paulwalter7294
@paulwalter7294 8 ай бұрын
I deck/block it and use it with a trem. Works just fine. It is so much personal preference
@Tonetwisters
@Tonetwisters 3 ай бұрын
In general, I'm a floater. Most of my Catastrasters float. Half the fun of playing a Stratocaster is that "tremolo" with a well-cut, well-lubed nut. Good grief, that's fun.
@TheTurkey79
@TheTurkey79 8 ай бұрын
I think i need to pick up a copy of that book, i keep finding myself playing the same things over and over... B) Thanks for the info Zac!
@DonaldSchmider-pq3xr
@DonaldSchmider-pq3xr 7 ай бұрын
I have 3 strats ,all set up to float and I string all my fenders with 9s and they all work great .They all have the 2; point trem ,but I don't know if that makes a difference.
@ILIAD9
@ILIAD9 8 ай бұрын
Wow. Just what I needed. I just put on a new Babicz Trem on my Strat and am having a terrible time with the set up. not the product which is incredible but the tech(me) who needs some schooling.
@SionAfterEarth
@SionAfterEarth 3 ай бұрын
Haven't tried it on a Strat yet, but I'm very impressed with tuning stability on a PRS SE (it's a PRS design floating trem though) with D'Addario Balanced Tension EXL110BT. Seemed logical to try them with a floating trem.
@curtevans838
@curtevans838 8 ай бұрын
Nice Strat!
@stratjed
@stratjed 8 ай бұрын
Have a 57 that I tighten the claw down and don't put the bar on. Have a 1997 Strat Plus set up like Jeff Beck. Its stable as a Floyd. Have others decked but leave the bar on and use minimally. Really, try to seldom use it and try to play like me and avoid all the cliches that go with a Stratocaster. Thank you for a Stratocaster video today . Was a rough day at work and you made my evening .
@pedasijeff
@pedasijeff 4 ай бұрын
I float all my Strats but I always install Graph Tech TusqXL string trees and nut also locking tuners on most. My Floyd Rose also floats.
@nazmoking3171
@nazmoking3171 8 ай бұрын
Float it or don't buy a strat! I learned several years ago how to float them effectively on KZbin and now I don't much care for guitars without a trem - makes a huge difference!
@chadromney
@chadromney 8 ай бұрын
Interesting, yesterday I heard about Paul Johnson for the first time. Someone recommended an album called High Energy. Can't wait to check it all out.
@rockandrollmd541
@rockandrollmd541 8 ай бұрын
Mine is decked with a piece of foam wedged in between the trem block and body to kill the reverb. I play a lot of double stop bends. The string tension feels a bit slinkier when it is floating. I prefer the percussive sound of a decked bridge.
@timnatrajan
@timnatrajan 8 ай бұрын
I float my strats. I use 9.5 - 44 strings too, but only use 3 springs. No problem with returning to pitch with the trem set up correctly and the nut lubricated.
@mattrogers1946
@mattrogers1946 8 ай бұрын
I know exactly what you're talking about. My 80s Japanese Strat had a System One tremolo, too. 😅😅
@jasonkeaton5140
@jasonkeaton5140 8 ай бұрын
The string theories book is amazing ! I love it
@user-tx1ec9wb1z
@user-tx1ec9wb1z 5 ай бұрын
I just rest my palm on the bridge while doing double stop bends to prevent the bridge from raising. And use my ears to stay in tune of course.
@azcharlie2009
@azcharlie2009 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips on the tremolo set up. I have an old 90's MIJ Strat with a Schaller two post trem on it. Never have been able to get it to stay in tune. I've tried blocking it, and another device designed to hold the bridge in place. Nothing works very well. You can't really deck the thing because there isn't enough room to get the intonation correct. I did use 10 gauge strings, but didn't like the feel. Wouldn't stay in tune anyway. I haven't tried removing the nut locking mechanism. I really hate using those tiny tuning nobs on the bridge. Every once in a while, I'll grab a tuner and screw the whole thing up! I was screwing around with the guitar yesterday, and I have to say it's about as good as it every has been right now. Just don't do any dive bombs.
@flintdavis2
@flintdavis2 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Zac
@Big-A-Russel
@Big-A-Russel 4 ай бұрын
I have two strats one I have decked and the other one floating both are fun.
@EricJohnson-iv7ne
@EricJohnson-iv7ne 4 ай бұрын
Locking tuners and a really good bridge help too. For me, a Wilkinson bridge made a huge difference.
@TRWilley
@TRWilley 8 ай бұрын
Mechanical pencils are good for adding graphite to the nut slots. Another option is Carmex lip balm and a toothpick to apply.
@sammccue500
@sammccue500 8 ай бұрын
A tube of locksmith's powdered graphite and all five springs, locking tuners and no string winds.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@TRWilley
@TRWilley 8 ай бұрын
@@sammccue500 I've also combined the powered graphite with Vaseline to make it easier to apply - it ain't pretty, but it seemed to work. Nice thing about mechanical pencils is the lead is skinny enough to fit even in the high E nut slot.
@stevenpipes1555
@stevenpipes1555 8 ай бұрын
I float my strat bridge. Graphtech nut and retainer, 10 guage strings, 2 springs, with the spring claw set deeper on the bass side. More tension on the bass side spring helps ballance the string tension more equally. It feels buttery smoothe and stays in tune quite well. As far as other strings dropping pich during bends, ive learned to hold the trem still with the arm when i do these kinds of bends.
@BOBBRADLEYCHANNEL
@BOBBRADLEYCHANNEL 8 ай бұрын
If you float and do a lot of muting with the palm, any ham handed maneuvers can result in some chaos 🫠 so diving zone only over here..
@picksalot1
@picksalot1 8 ай бұрын
Yes, but I use a 4th Method. I deck the Bridge from the top, using a wedge between the back of the bridge and the top of the guitar. The best material I've found regarding tone is plastic from an old 3-ply pickguard. I can insert the wedge or remove it in under 5 seconds. I use a couple of pieces of plastic to hold it in place when doing dives. The wedge prevents the pulling up on the Whammy bar. Having the wedge in place makes my Strat sound like a PRS. The wedge removes a lot of the jangle and rattle that comes from a standard floating bridge, and there are more mids. When I first came up with the idea, I tested a metal wedge, and wood. I used a popsicle stick taped in place with painters tape for a quick test, just to see if the idea was worth pursuing. A popsicle stick is just over 2mm thick, and just about perfect to try as a wedge. I think a screw mechanism would work a bit better, but I haven't gotten around to doing that. As a side benefit, using a wedge makes string set changes about twice as fast because the strings stay mostly in tune when tightening up the other strings. EVH had a Quarter screwed to the top of the Frankenstrat towards the back of the bridge, and I suspect he used it for the same purposes.
@Keaneo
@Keaneo 8 ай бұрын
Zac's back! ✌️
@randyrich2039
@randyrich2039 8 ай бұрын
NICE strat! Since he didn't say, I'm going to guess it's a 1955. It could be a late '54, but I'm going with '55. But, I'm not an expert. Nice video Zac.
@jw_au
@jw_au 8 ай бұрын
I’m with you, just a slight float… I picked up a new Strat today in fact and have changed the float as they come from the factory with quite a large float in my opinion
@glennfeit8294
@glennfeit8294 8 ай бұрын
Okay, I’m gonna share a controversial hack that came out of playing outdoor gigs in Florida during the summer with ridiculous humidity. On a gig, the guitar (Mighty Mite maple fretboard w/compound radius) became unbearable so I asked a server for a little bit of olive oil. That solved this stickiness of the fretboard but I also noticed the tuning seemed better even after using the vibrato arm. Not loving the idea of using olive oil on a regular basis, I tried WD-40. Wow, what a difference. Not only did the guitar play better but the WD-40 seemed to last longer as it impregnated the fretboard. I have since used it on all my guitars including several vintage 60s guitars. I’ve also noticed I don’t have to polish my frets as often and they seem to be lasting longer (I’m lucky to have been playing a lot the past few years). Soaking a Q-Tip with WD-40 and treating the nut and string tree has been a game changer and, so far as I can tell, has not affected the finish of any of my guitars or dried out the wood. Of course, I always wipe off any excess. I now keep a small spray can in my work gig bags. Hopefully the humidity in Florida will let up soon😂.
@jeremyversusjazz
@jeremyversusjazz 8 ай бұрын
Interesting…
@fleadoggreen9062
@fleadoggreen9062 6 ай бұрын
Ever use wd40 on a rosewood or the newer boards ? Thanks for the tip ?
@jeremyversusjazz
@jeremyversusjazz 6 ай бұрын
heres another pro tip for wd40: cleans stainless steel perfectly-a million times better than any “stainless steel cleaner” fingerprints on your fridge door u thought were there forever? gone. stuffs amazing.
@worthmoremusic
@worthmoremusic 8 ай бұрын
Unless I missed it, interestingly enough you never mentioned locking tuners regarding tuning stability along with a proper cut nut.....also interesting to see you have 5 springs whereas so many who use a floating bridge removed a few to use only 2 or 3. Once again, it's all so subjective ! Thanks for your perspective Zac !
@craigthomson3621
@craigthomson3621 8 ай бұрын
On Strats and String Gauges. I have found that vintage spec Strats (including Fender AVRI, Original and Vintage models) need at least 10 - 46 strings. However, modern spec 22 fret Fender Strats (such as the Ultra, Professional and Mexican Player), while being perfectly happy with 10 - 46 gauge, also perform well with 9 - 42 gauge.
@dandean2345
@dandean2345 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Zac always listen to the opinions of real world players, it's from hard earned experience. String guage indeed, Hank Marvin's pre CBS strat shipped with what he believed to be 13's with wound g. He used the trem to help bend so accidentally creating an iconic style. I can't do under 10 on a strat. I'm a tech so I've strung them with every guage 12' s tuned to e flat is magical. . My drill in 6 point trem..strings and springs off raise middle 4 screws 1/8 then adjust outer screws till trem rises them back off, wick 3in 1 into screw contact points. I set b to rise semitone. Will be checking that album,
@Abbynorml1979
@Abbynorml1979 8 ай бұрын
A lot of guitar tweaking comes down to, "F around and find out, and you won't find out until you F around." (Just thought of that lol, as far as I know).
@nazmoking3171
@nazmoking3171 8 ай бұрын
I put Raw Vintage springs - only 3 of them per guitar - with 9 gauge strings floating and no tuning issues!
@georg.camerone56
@georg.camerone56 4 ай бұрын
I tune to open E and use 9.5 Diarrio. 2mm right across the 17th and around 8thou relief.
@SrServ
@SrServ 8 ай бұрын
I keep the bridge on the wood..but adjust the springs so that I just reach behind and use my hand on top for tremolo effects. I don"t like the whammy bar. I try and keep those strings loose
@ewm335
@ewm335 8 ай бұрын
Re your Squier, sounds like you’re describing a System 1 trem: I hated mine too ha ha. And I tend to agree. I float my six-screw Strat trem and with a little lubrication and maintenance it stays in tune fine for my needs. When I need to dive bomb etc., which is almost never, I have an Ibanez RG with the Original Edge, maybe the best stock Floyd-type trem available.
@AskZac
@AskZac 8 ай бұрын
It was a system 1. It was crap. Weighed nothing
@les047
@les047 5 ай бұрын
You should try a Crazyparts/Mark Foley Steel Block with this Strat. They use a softer alloy much closer to vintage Fender specs and combined with the Raw Vintage springs - I guarantee this will give you a clearer and smoother sounding Strat. I have a '84 Tokai with all of this installed and it is very, very close to my friends real '63. It's unbelievable what the block and springs can do. Expensive but 100% worth it. They only really started making these blocks around 2018-2019 so the word isn't out yet.
@markchristopher2373
@markchristopher2373 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this Zak. Why the 5 springs? I float mine with three (American Standard 1986) and it will settle down and stay in tune - sometimes after a few months in the case! Aah, we just got to the softer spring section - I agree about the reverb thing. Nice insight!
@AskZac
@AskZac 8 ай бұрын
It has to do with the low tension Raw Vintage springs
@billpholde4816
@billpholde4816 5 ай бұрын
Zak, great video, as usual. I feel your pain about not being able to listen to modern music when you were growing up. I wasn't allowed to watch the 3 Stooges. I lose!
@kennvillegas2014
@kennvillegas2014 8 ай бұрын
¡GOOD On Ya! I've been following for a long time mostly b/c I love the info - but I have no Tele desires - not even Tele-curious ( I live in central Pennsylvania so ya either hunt or play guitar) So I have always wondered what type of Strat you had.. Love the Tone on it.
@micktheman6
@micktheman6 8 ай бұрын
I use five springs I want a thicker sound and the strat is to thin for me if not especially because mine is early 60s spec.
@michaelaguilar7771
@michaelaguilar7771 24 күн бұрын
Y'know, if I didn't know better I'd say that was a legit mid 50s strat. Brad could get a job with Fender's relicing dept if the whole music superstar thing gets old.😂
@thesjkexperience
@thesjkexperience 8 ай бұрын
Springs can change the tone more than different brands of strings.
@tidepoolbay
@tidepoolbay 8 ай бұрын
I use Graphite & Super Lube on my Nuts on guitars with a Tremolo.
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